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    Wait, do you know something we don't Alex? A little inside information about next script fest? Is it message fest?


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    Oh fingers crossed, i mean message fest would really hopefully stretch writers to express something meaningful (or to satirise it!)

    Personally I'd love a chance to write something political / social - everyone else will have their own messages!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lawriejaffa View Post
    Oh fingers crossed, i mean message fest would really hopefully stretch writers to express something meaningful (or to satirise it!)

    Personally I'd love a chance to write something political / social - everyone else will have their own messages!
    i'm not convinced Message Fest is a great idea... i mean, you can incorporate a message into any script, nothing wrong with that. but if it's the theme of the fest, it's sooo subjective that all the threads will end up being discussions on "the message" of the story instead of the merits of the story itself, not to mention structure and style. then it becomes "who's script had the best message?" which, again, is really subjective, and kinda defeats the purpose of Script Fest.

    these are Script Fests, not homework assignments for Sociology Class. i think we need a narrow, unifying theme (or genre). then we can feel free to load up on underlying themes and subtext.


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    I agree with Preston. Message Fest is a nice idea in principle, but I think it's far too subjective to but into practise. Perhaps make a message some kind of element to be incorporated into the script, but give it some kind of unifying theme so that we have some kind of brief to write to. Otherwise, you can just upload any script and tack some kind of moral onto the end of it.
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    I have the next fest idea, just trying to hammer down a requirement that stretches the genre's limitations a bit. Will have it figured out by end of this week.
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    ooh that sounds awesome - thanks Isaac


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    Good news. These scriptfests are serving as my practice range so to speak and look forward to getting stuck into it.
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    Isaac wanted me to tell you guys, he went with HomoInterracialEroticFest which i think will be quite exciting for all of us - certainly I can give you all great tips.

    Im ready for your PM queries - let the competition begin!
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    Yeah Mightyshrub i think your criticism of my genius suggestion of messagefest is a bit irrelevant really! Now its not just because its obviously amazing and beyond criticism anyway but...

    MessageFest is based on the idea of 'message films' ie those films that put their message at the forefront.

    If that seems far too subjective to put into practice, then talk to (oh wait he's dead) Berthold Brechte (thats if i did spell his name right.)

    The idea that you can upload any script and put a moral on the end of it?! Well yeah, but how many - HOW MANY did that say in pulp fest?

    The idea is for scriptwriters to talk about something relevant (or to satirise the idea of doing so id imagine) as the point of their script.

    I mean i could never imagine this being vaguer than any other festival suggestion. *shakes head* tsk tsk

    And Preston... sweet Preston,

    sooo subjective that all the threads will end up being discussions on "the message" of the story instead of the merits of the story itself
    Yes just imagine if we were discussing the message inherit within scripts written for Scriptfest. You may be surprised to learn that stories since the dawn of time have had meanings - metaphors as you will, that have touched upon what some might call 'deeper meaning' in life. Sometimes this goes so far as to include oh... politics, race, religion etc. While these provide devices for any narrative - it is 'tis' rare for that narrative whose sole purpose is to illustrate the authors preferred message.

    To criticise the discussion of a stories message - is about as intellectual as criticising the idea of discussing the meaning of a story. In actual fact these things form the base of any narrative relevance. The merits of the story.... well now your being subjective ;)

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    I'm fully aware of the work of Brecht, having been a drama student for goodness knows how many years, and an english student for even more than that, and I think to be honest he is a perfect example of why I don't think messagefest would work. He's put so much effort into putting his point across that the actual writing in his plays suffers. That's not to say that his plays suck, far from it, but as a writing style it is only really conductive if shown exactly as he intended - in a very melodramatic style, on stage. I've seen both a stage and film version of Threepenny Opera, and the film version sucked, because that kind of thing just doesn't work on camera.

    So where do you go with it? Well, you have to water it down slightly so that the writing can take over and make the story flow properly, so that it reads well and doesn't tire the reader. But if you water the message down, then it's just another facet of the story, not the main objective. Add to this that you only have ten pages, and you're either going to end up with a really big moral and very little story, or a nice flowing story with a moral that the average reader/viewer would have to search for.

    All of the above may be irrelevant, it may not. I was merely pointing out that I don't think Brecht necessarily proves your point.

    To be honest, I think this is getting a bit silly and petty. It's also irrelevant, seen as Isaac has already chosen the next fest =P
    I'd be perfectly happy with MessageFest, I'm just pointing out it's limitations
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