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    Hmmm, I thought this was LOVE fest...
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    Cheat, Whore, Kill, and Offend were all well represented. Love, however, was left out in the cold in most of what I watched. So My question is, if the Fest is about Love, then how can a film be considered eligible if the theme isn't met?
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    Lol, Barry was clear, that with this movie being due at Valentines that romantic love was desired, but they would accept other forms. It's clear that people seemed to have wanted to do anything but romantic love.
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    My Gal Pal was the exemplary of romantic. If that is accurate, so far I can count, on my hand, qualifying entries.

    But, most did involve tangible depictions of a certain type of love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Harris View Post
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    for the cheap seats, that's "LOVE'S A BITCH!!!!"
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    Yup. Love can be painful. It can tear you apart. Jason's story shows us the pain of losing someone while they die from a wretched illness. My Gal Pal took us back to the 80's when love was still innocent and Brat Pack silliness abounded. Wait a minute, they still make those kind of movies don't they. Dustin showed the sacrifice a man was willing to make to save someone he loved. And others, in their own way, touched on the bittersweet, difficult, awkward ways love touches us all.
    My question was about the films with infidelity and (in at least two of them) murder. Why, with so much talent and obvious ability on hand, did people chose these themes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Imagination Films View Post
    My question was about the films with infidelity and (in at least two of them) murder. Why, with so much talent and obvious ability on hand, did people chose these themes?
    mmmmm.... is it because they're morally bankrupt?
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    It's not pretty or pleasant but it is just as legitimate to explore the negative or contrary forms of love as it is the positive.

    Yeah, I just used an obnoxious Robert McKee reference. Booya.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak Forsman View Post
    mmmmm.... is it because they're morally bankrupt?
    Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.

    No, I think it's because, (stick with me here) when this contest was announced, you could hear the collective groan. Then the inevitable Porn v Love questions. How much is too much etc. Then it was all cleared up. The theme is Love and you have to have a camera and viewing starts on Valentines day.
    So what happened next was the tendency for people to see how far they can push things before they get caught, yelled at, DQ'd.
    So we played hide and go seek with the cameras. But unsatisfied and not really wanting to make a "love story" about romantic love, it became affairs and cheating and eventually murder.
    We do tend to behave like little kids. "Can't I stay up just five more minutes?" "Can't I make my love story about a man and a woman who hate each other so much they would rather kill one another than just walk away?"
    I guess we were all too cool to make one of those sappy love stories. (Obviously not meant for those of us who made sappy love stories)
    If the next fest is action movie fest, I think I'll make mine about inaction. It's kinda like action, but without all the movement. Like love stories without all the love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jared Meyer View Post
    It's not pretty or pleasant but it is just as legitimate to explore the negative or contrary forms of love as it is the positive.

    Yeah, I just used an obnoxious Robert McKee reference. Booya.
    See, this is what I'm talking about. Why do we have themes, or required elements, if we can then rationalize "exploring the negative or contrary?"
    I ask, because I was recently in a film contest in which the winning entry had nothing to do with the genre of film they had been assigned.
    If the rule stipulated love, how does hate constitute adherence to the theme. If the rules stipulated a camera must be in one scene, how does a pan past it during the credits count? I'm asking these questions in all sincerity as I must have missed the "theme/ props are optional" memo.
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