Ex Picture Profile Thread

[BrenMyster]

HVX PP would be real nice, there are far more HVX's out there so when ever I'm looking for a 2nd camera more people who have HVX apply for the job.

[astute]

What I would love to see is a very "flat" preset.
Something that resembles EOS or the Canon XH-A1 series.
All very light even colors.

A picture profile which is very easy to pull through color correction at a later stage.


Recently I used my EX1 alongside my Canon and the EX1 was so much more saturated (and better) but it rendered my much less sharp and very blant Canon almost useless. Very obvious difference.

[basspig]

Have you tried turning off the picture profiles? That's the "flat" setting that closely matches my old VX2000.

[Greg Voevodsky]

Which setting is better for low light, HIGH CONTRAST, sunset with details in the shadows - minimum noise. NO CINE SETTINGS

Is it better to wash out the image like BLACK +20, BLACK CINE -20 and then add the details back in the blacks... OR...

is it better to shoot BLACK -5, BLACK CINE +30 which gives nice blacks and still brightens the dark greys?

Am I getting more latitude with the 2nd (BLACK -5, BLACK CINE +30) setting than the 1st when it is corrected back down?

(I guess RED's washed out RAW look and then post production has me thinking more about shooting a bit flatter to get more detail in the blacks - am I wrong here? I know this is not RAW... the above settings are a decent test - I will test them soon in Color.)

[basspig]

I look at this issue this way: you can always crush the blacks in post, but you can't un-crush the blacks once you've done so in the camera.

PCs have gotten so powerful now that realtime color grading is a reality. So go fix it in post--treat it like "raw" format and shoot to capture maximum information, then, at post production, have the freedom to decide what to keep and what to throw away, in terms of tonal range.

[DeeZiD]

This is my attempt on a new grading-friendly profile:

Profile Name: HDR

Matrix:
Setting: Off

Color Correction: Off

White: Off

Detail: Off

Skin Tone Detail: Off

Gamma:
Level: -8
Select: Cine4

Black: -5

Black Gamma: +15

Low Key SAT: +3

Color Matrix is set off because it boosts CAs heavily.
Detail is off because it boosts artifacts and looks videoish. (works better in post)
Black Gamma is set to +15 because it brightens up shadows (works much better than in post)
Low Key Sat is set to +3 because it adds color to the brightened shadows (better than in post)


Don't use this profile with gain >0!


regards Dennis

[Michael B. McGee]

i tried accessing your EX-1 PP thread today at 10am PST and had no luck. is your server down?

thanks,
mike

[renbash]

Hi, its a great discussion... Just wondering if anyone can let me know if Sony EX1's final result in 35mm after cine transfer,,, will it be good?

What i am trying to ask is, will it be good in cinema's in 35mm prints?

Thank u.

[basspig]

I would expect that it will look as good as any other full raster HD camera, and maybe a tad better than some. I watched some of my footage on an 80" Stuart screen that was encoded on to a Blu-ray disc and it looked better than what I see in the cinema with 35mm film--it had more detail and was free of that "fuzziness" that always seems to plague movie theater showings. So I think it will transfer to 35mm quite nicely, if the process is done correctly.

[renbash]

Thank u very much... Any muvies that was done in EX1? That i can refer?