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    Oh, and Canon, since you're reading this thread...

    Oh, and Canon, since you're reading this thread anyway:

    I would take that sensor+Digic 7 combo in a RF mount 1Dc mkII body, with maintained ability to shoot both raw internally, and the FF readout...
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    I agree with the consensus that the $12-20K...

    I agree with the consensus that the $12-20K bracket seems like a much more difficult sell in 2019/2020 than just a few years ago. But I guess it becomes a question of how complete that camera is.
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    Honestly, I don't think you can find a single...

    Honestly, I don't think you can find a single camera with the same feature set at a lower price.

    And to extend that thought: I don't think you can find a similar camera at ANY price... but feel...
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    I'm pleasantly surprised. For this category of...

    I'm pleasantly surprised.

    For this category of camera, it's pretty aggressive.

    The C500 mkII actually seems pretty "complete": sensor size, color science/log curves, mount options, codec...
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    No, I'm not seeing that. While the P6K isn't a...

    No, I'm not seeing that. While the P6K isn't a perfect camera, I certainly don't have an issue with the actual images.
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    Sure, my thinking is more along the lines of the...

    Sure, my thinking is more along the lines of the two formats being different enough through framing alone (and not necessarily being shown side by side), that it could be two different takes.

    Are...
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    I don't think vertical video needs to be frowned...

    I don't think vertical video needs to be frowned upon in a commercial setting. Posters are a thing, and they are often vertical in nature. I see nothing strange at all in stores who are moving to...
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    As others have mentioned, I'm not sure you can...

    As others have mentioned, I'm not sure you can call them a de facto industry standard after ARRI, but I think we can agree on that they are a popular choice.

    Some reasons that stand out to me are:...
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    Well, at least they priced it accordingly. I...

    Well, at least they priced it accordingly.

    I think it was a mistake to take the DSLR component out of the Cinema EOS range. I really loved my 1Dc. That camera could have still been in the line...
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    Let's see what Canon does with their new RF mount...

    Let's see what Canon does with their new RF mount camera in the 1D class. Not really hoping for much, but...

    I like what they are doing with their new lenses and the Trinity is stabilised starting...
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    I think Canon is on the record for saying "sub...

    I think Canon is on the record for saying "sub 20k". Launching at $19995 then seems a bit... well...

    I would guess $17995 or $18995, but this camera really needs to drop a wee bit more. $15995...
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    If you break it down, there aren't THAT many...

    If you break it down, there aren't THAT many components to it:


    Pure sensor performance: size, resolution and dynamic range.
    The sensor will capture linear light and has no rolloff. Sensor size...
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    BRAW is a fantastic codec to shoot to. It's...

    BRAW is a fantastic codec to shoot to. It's completely irrelevant if it's "true raw" or not. It's about giving the shooter options to control data rate while maintaining performance and image...
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    Thanks. My journey has been from photo,...

    Thanks.

    My journey has been from photo, adding video and coloring, adding some motion graphics to more of a generalist, now also with 3D, to follow my own interests. During that arc I've...
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    I realise I've only been here 7 years. Feels...

    I realise I've only been here 7 years. Feels longer. Used to be good times with initiated discussions in the golden era of camera development.

    This thread is the beginning of the end for me here—I...
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    OK. But you were putting Jim in a bunker, which...

    OK. But you were putting Jim in a bunker, which he doesn’t actually have, and then you’re attaching a well known quote from Hitler.

    So how would you like it to be interpreted?

    I’m probably...
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    So, have we arrived at the point in the thread...

    So, have we arrived at the point in the thread now, where Jim Jannard and Tim Cook are basically Hitler?

    The ability to create products with sound profit margins, while keeping a satisfied client...
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    OK, so now I know how the "research" and due...

    OK, so now I know how the "research" and due diligence you often refer to, works.

    My participation in this thread has been based on two things:


    To act as a counter weight to the meaningless...
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    Would you mind clarifying what isn't true? ...

    Would you mind clarifying what isn't true?

    What you write in your post doesn't seem to relate to what I'm talking about.

    EDIT: are you referring to me saying hardware and software being...
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    What is the irony? Are you saying my modded...

    What is the irony?

    Are you saying my modded Mac Pro is a Hackintosh? Are you saying me shortening 'hackintosh' to hack, and then saying a 'Hack' doesn't belong in the discussion is funny because...
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    Normally, Mac users gravitate to Mac apps. It's...

    Normally, Mac users gravitate to Mac apps. It's probably one of the reasons they buy a Mac.

    But you can buy a Mac strictly for the OS and then not run Mac only apps, that's why I didn't want to...
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    Again, this takes place in the superset of...

    Again, this takes place in the superset of 'computers'. Where both Win and Mac compete.

    The Mac Pro exsists i the subset 'Macs'. Windows based machines no longer apply. I wish I could make this...
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    I'm not really touching Hackintosh here, because...

    I'm not really touching Hackintosh here, because like you say, they're illegal (but it's not like they're harming anyone), but more importantly... while you can make them run they are completely...
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    How about you, jcs—did you read past the first...

    How about you, jcs—did you read past the first paragraph? =)

    The cost of Apple hardware (and I agree the entry level for the new Mac Pro is high) can only be compared to other Apple computers....
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    And what is the debate exactly? Comparing an...

    And what is the debate exactly? Comparing an Apple to a Pear?

    It doesn't matter what people can put together by themselves—accepting that we frame the discussion around the Mac Pro, because if...
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