View Full Version : Suggestions for shooting Film Noir?
HoboAlpha
05-20-2007, 10:13 PM
Hi, Long time reader, first time threader...
Anyways, I'm working with the stock lens and hvx200. Was wondering what some of your suggestions would be for the best settings for shooting B&W. 720p or 1080i? Leaning towards 720p. Any difference there retaining to picture quality. I'm going for low noise and deep blacks with some grit but not as much as say Miami Vice/Collateral. Cine D vs Cine V?
Great thanks a lot.
Nigel
MikeDPLD
05-21-2007, 09:07 AM
Get Barry's book, which includes a custom scene file settings CD.
Load those settings onto an SD card.
Load that card into your HVX.
Barry's got various visual options--including a "Lo Noiz" file.
TimurCivan
05-22-2007, 12:23 PM
shoot 1080p. its 20% sharper than 720p.
shoot Bpress, and push the master pedestal down a bit. to like-9. push the chroma level way down to -7, this will give you a cleaner image. then completely desatureate in post.
arrestthisman
05-22-2007, 05:23 PM
shoot 1080p. its 20% sharper than 720p.
shoot Bpress, and push the master pedestal down a bit. to like-9. push the chroma level way down to -7, this will give you a cleaner image. then completely desatureate in post.
And sometimes more... 1080p, depending on the shot can look like night and day compared to 720P. Personally, in the shots I've done test with, I think 30% improvement is about right most of the time, but it all depends on lighting complexity of the image and so on. Wide shots can benefit the most.
With newer editors mixing formats so well lately, you may want to do some tests and shoot both if it agrees with your footage. A lot of it depends on if you need variable frame rates.
Timur is right to desaturate in post, it looks far better than trying it in-cam.
Niels Neeskens
05-23-2007, 03:25 AM
Not to steal the topic, but would it be the same for shooting in disco envirement to get the clearest picture?
HoboAlpha
05-23-2007, 07:10 PM
Hey guys, thanks a lot!
Nigel
TimurCivan
05-23-2007, 07:15 PM
Most of the HVX's "noise", is chroma noise. Though most of the HVX's Percieced noise is actually poor monitoring. If you look at the footage on a good monitor, it looks increadible.
But reducing chroma to -2 or lower will clean up your footage alot.