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punkkid
05-18-2007, 03:13 PM
Has there been any talk of what the next Fest will be? I would love to see a comedyfest, horrorfest (maybe a more specific category like monsterfest) or kidfest (kids tv style shows. doesn't have to be directed at kids. It could be something like Greg the Bunny or Puppets Who Kill)

bosindy
05-18-2007, 03:17 PM
I am truly hoping for comedy. This one has been fun, but comedy is more of what I am used to writing.

TimurCivan
05-18-2007, 03:46 PM
Well thats a record. 2 weeks to deadline and people are thinking forward already!

We shall see.

punkkid
05-18-2007, 03:59 PM
I didn't get a chance to take part this time and I am getting anxious. I really don't want to do another last minute entry like last time around.

Larry Rutledge
05-18-2007, 04:53 PM
Feel free to discuss it amongst yourselves...but don't expect a definitive answer until we are done judging this one.

TimurCivan
05-18-2007, 04:53 PM
Thats it im calling it now.....

Clownmagicianfest.



(god i hope not)

Beat Takeshi
05-18-2007, 04:59 PM
I say a silent fest so we don't have to listen to voice overs.

TimurCivan
05-18-2007, 05:01 PM
B&W silent fest...... nice. takin it film school.

Beat Takeshi
05-18-2007, 05:12 PM
I like the idea because you can't use audio as a crutch and it makes you tell a story with just images.

TimurCivan
05-18-2007, 05:14 PM
Well ofcourse the DP's are happy wiht that........

stinkpot
05-18-2007, 05:40 PM
B&W silent fest...... nice. takin it film school.

I'm in. :beer:

CineMark
05-18-2007, 05:54 PM
I'd be in too.

punkkid
05-18-2007, 06:23 PM
I LOVE the idea.

Weston
05-18-2007, 07:26 PM
yeah thats a very good idea

Justin Kuhn
05-18-2007, 07:31 PM
Man, the prizes aren't even announced and already somebody's askin'.

Neil Rowe
05-18-2007, 07:55 PM
I like the idea because you can't use audio as a crutch and it makes you tell a story with just images.

:huh: ..cmon now. its an audio-visual medium. i couldnt say that i was crutching for my right leg by taking every other step with the left. ...but, to be honest i do completely understand what your saying. people can crutch on either end of the spectrum for weaknesses in the other. a silent round certainly would be an interesting way to elicit growth on the visual end.

punkkid
05-18-2007, 08:25 PM
I think it was mentioned that it would be BW and silent earlier on, but I think color should be an option. it leaves the door open for more creativity. Since generally silent films are BW. I would love to see what people come up with with that avenue open.

Beat Takeshi
05-18-2007, 08:31 PM
:huh: ..cmon now. its an audio-visual medium. i couldnt say that i was crutching for my right leg by taking every other step with the left. ...but, to be honest i do completely understand what your saying. people can crutch on either end of the spectrum for weaknesses in the other. a silent round certainly would be an interesting way to elicit growth on the visual end.


I didn't mean it like that. :P
I mean when someone uses voice over to cram in a ton of back story.

Jason Ramsey
05-18-2007, 09:06 PM
How 'bout audio-fest? That way the dp's don't use visuals as a crutch :) Kidding.

I actually like the idea of silent fest.... Maybe if we could give it some other kind of twist as well.... don't have any ideas though.....

Jason

cinealma
05-18-2007, 09:13 PM
How about a Lumiere fest? 55 secs, non-sync sound (but still sound), and no hard cuts.

Cryogenic Filmworks
05-18-2007, 09:15 PM
Thats it im calling it now.....

Clownmagicianfest.



(god i hope not)
Yes. Clownfest. (Is that not Kholi's favorite character?)

dvpixl
05-18-2007, 09:20 PM
holy mackerel. i wasn't thinking silent but I did think of doing a B+W piece.... but I guess just being B+W could be applied to any genre if it had sound and pretty much everything else.

Larry Rutledge
05-18-2007, 09:50 PM
Zombie Clown Musical :thumbsup:

Jason Ramsey
05-18-2007, 09:52 PM
Silent Musical

Justin Kuhn
05-18-2007, 09:58 PM
How about a Lumiere fest? 55 secs, non-sync sound (but still sound), and no hard cuts.


I was with you right up until "no hard cuts".

bosindy
05-18-2007, 10:34 PM
B&W, Silent? don't those films exist because that was what the technology offered back then? No interest if that is where you guys want to go. Although I guess I have an idea for a train robbery with dialogue cards. 12 frames per second should work nicely.

Beat Takeshi
05-18-2007, 10:45 PM
one single long 6 minute shot.

CineMark
05-20-2007, 01:41 PM
I really wouldn't be interested in a COMPLETELY silent fest. MAYBE one with no voiceover or dialog — only SFX and score. Although for any fest there could be a no voiceover rule — force everyone to get better at writing and shooting dialog. If you use VO you get disqualified.

Some other ideas for fests:

MonsterFest — Not aliens, monsters. I think to do this one properly we would need a little more time to make our monsters believable.

NightFest — Everything shot at night. Seriously. That would be cool.

DeathFest — Storylines dealing with death. Anyway you want. Could be murder, could be drama, etc.

SuspenseFest — Or thriller fest.

ShyamalanFest — Twist ending.

FairyTaleFest —*This could actually be fun. Like fantasy, but not SciFi. There are a lot of rules that go along with a fairy tale. Having to do something 3 times — 3 tests, 3 doors, etc. It could get really detailed but open within that.

Anyway, just trying to throw some ideas out there. We (me and Anthem78) really want to do something this time around. We haven't entered since Anonymous in HeroFest. We were going to do DramaFest, but didn't make the deadline. So now we're anxious.

punkkid
05-20-2007, 05:54 PM
I really like the MonsterFest and FairyTaleFest. I don't think DeathFest would be a good idea because that is basically what DramaFest turned into.

TimurCivan
05-20-2007, 05:59 PM
I already told you .... CLOWNFEST.

snodart
05-20-2007, 06:11 PM
How about one-location fest? Everything must take place at a single location (ie: a room, under a tree, in the water, etc). Oh, and with clowns :)

TimurCivan
05-20-2007, 06:14 PM
Underwater clowns.

Mark Harris
05-20-2007, 06:23 PM
come on people, let's try a little harder:

LEBOWSKI-FEST

TimurCivan
05-20-2007, 06:26 PM
Thats like.... your opinion man.......

Mark Harris
05-20-2007, 06:29 PM
Thats like.... your opinion man.......

8 year olds, Timur.

TimurCivan
05-20-2007, 06:31 PM
actually i think youre an 8 year old in your Avatar..... i looked again and they are kids. you were right.

deedive
05-21-2007, 11:07 AM
underwater fest

tmnt
05-21-2007, 11:39 AM
Buddyfest.

TimurCivan
05-21-2007, 11:51 AM
underwater fest

ok thing from the black lagoon.....

Zak Forsman
05-21-2007, 11:51 AM
Here's my pitch... shorts must be centered around a theme of sleep or sleeping, or dreams, or insomnia.... and we'll call it SNOOZEFEST!!!!

dvpixl
05-21-2007, 03:48 PM
Action/Adventure!

Nik Manning
05-21-2007, 03:58 PM
how about we make it a documentary about local music bands in our area and we call it OZZFest!
I was just playing, but that turned into a pretty good idea! Then we would be helping local musicians while making a movie.

TimurCivan
05-21-2007, 04:00 PM
How about break up in an apartment fest?

John LaBonney
05-22-2007, 05:15 PM
I liked SpyFest because you weren't tied down to a "genre" really, you could do a spying documentary, a comedy, a drama, etc. Hopefully the next fest will have a similar theme in which we can explore different avenues.

FutureDVXUser
05-22-2007, 05:44 PM
Since it's the year of the dog, maybe there should be a DogFest haha

DarkMatter
05-22-2007, 06:01 PM
I think a GRINDHOUSE FEST would rock!!!!! Anybody else with me?

mikkowilson
05-22-2007, 08:28 PM
I think the key reqirement of the next fest should be that it be shot and presented in 9:16.


Yes, like 16:9, but roatated 90*. 9:16

It's all presented digitally on computers, so what does the shape of the frame really matter anyway?


- Mikko

TimurCivan
05-22-2007, 08:29 PM
MIkko........ I LIKE THAT.............................

I was planning on shooting some stuff liek that as an experiment...... Thats an awseome idea.

RebeccaD
05-22-2007, 08:30 PM
Hmm, interesting ideas. I can't say I'm thrilled with the silent fest idea. I agree that spyfest allowed people to put their own spin on it. Not a fan of monster fest, but I did think the fairytale fest was an interesting one. Comedy would be fun too. Its definitely fun to explore the various options/ideas. Keep 'em coming. Oh, I'm always up for a musical......

Dahopafilms
05-22-2007, 08:46 PM
Suggestion:

Animation. In black & white. Silent. With subtitles in any language but English.

Main character must be called "Jarred" (or the non-English equivalent).

TimurCivan
05-22-2007, 08:48 PM
Suggestion:

Animation. In black & white. Silent. With subtitles in any language but English.


clearly you follow my work.

blckhawk542
05-22-2007, 08:52 PM
How about a fest with multiple genres? 3 or 4 maybe? I like having choices...

but...each film in each genre all share a common rule that must be included in the film or one of the guidelines such as a name, object, etc.

Alex DePew
05-22-2007, 10:53 PM
Mockfest. All shorts must mock either the conventions of Hollywood (The bomb is going to go off in downtown LA in 5 minutes! Not if my split screen with a booming clock has anything to say about it!) or of Indie cinema (being 25 and unemployed and living at home, while working at the local pizzeria and having a crush on the girl who comes in everyday at 4pm while trying to finish my script for a movie about the same thing going on in this one is really hard. It's like an existential quandry).

snodart
05-22-2007, 11:10 PM
Mockfest would be a blast.

Drew Ott
05-27-2007, 10:23 PM
I like the 9:16 idea. I've always wanted to make something with a weird aspect ratio.

chris f
05-27-2007, 10:33 PM
how about an "I failed to finish my DVXuser Fest Entry" fest where everyone does a 6 minute film showing why a filmmaker didn't or couldn't finish their project

Shawn Philip Nelson
05-27-2007, 10:57 PM
I really want a HistFest, everything has to be a period film. Any genre, it just must be set in any era from 1970 backwards. So you'd get medieval films, western films, ancient romans, gangster era, civil war, etc. People could make use of the various historical locations they have local to them. We'd really get a sense of the various places that DVXUsers hail from!

Alex DePew
05-27-2007, 11:02 PM
I really want a HistFest, everything has to be a period film. Any genre, it just must be set in any era from 1970 backwards. So you'd get medieval films, western films, ancient romans, gangster era, civil war, etc. People could make use of the various historical locations they have local to them. We'd really get a sense of the various places that DVXUsers hail from!

This is madness!

Drew Ott
05-27-2007, 11:04 PM
"...this is Sparta"

Were you waiting for that?

Alex DePew
05-27-2007, 11:07 PM
"...this is Sparta"

Were you waiting for that?

Unfortunately. Now I can go to bed.

-zach-
05-28-2007, 08:14 AM
how about an "I failed to finish my DVXuser Fest Entry" fest where everyone does a 6 minute film showing why a filmmaker didn't or couldn't finish their project

...lol.

mine would win.

cinealma
05-28-2007, 08:27 AM
How about "Epic Fest". Must choose a widescreen format of 2.35:1 or wider and it gets to be, I mean has to be, EIGHT MINUTES instead of six.


(Yes, I'm middle of "chop the mutha" hell too.)

Drew Ott
05-28-2007, 08:45 AM
Unfortunately. Now I can go to bed.

:thumbup:

FutureDVXUser
05-28-2007, 09:16 AM
how about an "I failed to finish my DVXuser Fest Entry" fest where everyone does a 6 minute film showing why a filmmaker didn't or couldn't finish their project

I was thinkin of doin something like that for the heck of it since I already have the footage... And compare the good stuff to the bad stuff that was shot... But the bad stuff is so bad it's not submit material haha...

Ki-Ki
05-29-2007, 05:26 AM
How about "Epic Fest". Must choose a widescreen format of 2.35:1 or wider and it gets to be, I mean has to be, EIGHT MINUTES instead of six.


(Yes, I'm middle of "chop the mutha" hell too.)

Second that,

I think an epic fest could bring a lot of oppurtunities. Also people are so drummed into films being 6 minutes dead on, i doubt it would change, but it would be nice to see how people would respond to different parameters.

Ben Sliker
05-29-2007, 05:41 AM
Literary Adaptation Fest ... or Ghost Pirate Hooker Fest, I'd be fine with either of those.

CineMark
05-29-2007, 06:40 AM
So when are we going to find out, seriously? I'm ready to start.

Matt Sconce
05-29-2007, 08:13 AM
So when are we going to find out, seriously? I'm ready to start.

It will not be until this festival is over.

JOE BLO
05-29-2007, 02:42 PM
I vote for Hitchhiker fest. I've been thinking of a short with a hitchhiker and it would be great if it fit in the next fest.

Drew Ott
05-29-2007, 11:27 PM
Interestingly there is a short hitchhiking sequence in the script that I am writing.

Alex DePew
05-29-2007, 11:43 PM
Hitchhikingfest it is. So says I. You have to have a main character named Hortence or Osvaldo. There project must be in 9X16, in a foreign language or silent with subtitles that aren't in English. All projects must be shot on a Krasnogorsk-3, edited on a Steenbeck and mastered on a 35mm anamorphic print (sideways to make it 9X16, of course) The project must be completed by June 2, 2007, so you better get hustling brostein.

DISCLAIMER - The above is not a sanctioned DVXuser fest. If you indeed shoot this you will receive nothing. Just mad props and a puzzeled look from all the people who will hear your tale of this insane project.

TimurCivan
05-30-2007, 12:35 AM
There will be no such fest De pew.............. Ther will be somethign more awesome.

BryantStanton
05-30-2007, 01:54 AM
Roadtrip fest could be interesting given the summer time.

But then I feel roadtrip movie are getting so played out.

SO then I feel it'd be interesting to see how people could get creative with such a saturated genre.

Rambling finished.

Tom Marshall
05-30-2007, 09:04 AM
Beerfest! :beer:

Sad Max
05-30-2007, 11:06 AM
Documentaryfest?

I was going to suggest SnuffFest, but for some reason none of the actors I know want to get involved.

Matt Sconce
05-30-2007, 11:09 AM
Boot to the Head Fest! Everyone would know the ending but never know when it would happen.

punkkid
05-30-2007, 11:37 AM
How about 2minuteOrLessfest. Any genre it just has to be short. It's easier to tell a story if you have lots of time. So I say constrain the time you have to tell it.

BryantStanton
05-30-2007, 04:57 PM
Documentaryfest?


I was thinking the same thing, but I wonder if 6 minutes would be enough, and if there would be enough variety in choice of topic. Depending on topic choices, it could also cause quite a bit of turmoil (in terms of stance on issues, namely serious issues) amongst the site members.

Could make things interesting though...

Barry_Green
05-30-2007, 09:56 PM
How about 2minuteOrLessfest. Any genre it just has to be short. It's easier to tell a story if you have lots of time. So I say constrain the time you have to tell it.

P L E A S E. I've been asking for this since the first festival... :)

Ben Sliker
05-30-2007, 10:18 PM
what!?!?! only 2880 frames to work with? IM IN, Make it so, Barry.

hmm ... barely over 5 pages = 9 min for refill ...

Anything over a few sentences and I'm going to blow right past that 2 min mark.

Might also be easier for people to have multiple entries and much less strenuous to watch alot of 2 min films. But on the flip side, sometimes it's hard to get a coherent story in 6 min.

Barry_Green
05-30-2007, 10:53 PM
I don't set the schedule for the fests. I've just been asking for a shorter one forever. People complain about the six-minute time limit, but if we changed it to, say, 20 minutes -- it'd take like four days to watch all the entries! :)

Whereas with a shorter time limit, it changes the whole type of story one would even attempt. You'd think about it differently. We've had people try to cram a 20-minute story into the six-minute runtime, and it just doesn't work at all. But with 2 minutes, nobody'd even try that (I hope). They'd recognize 2 minutes as its own art form.

The "On The Lot" comedies may have been mediocre, but those guys had a sixty-second time limit. Two minutes is twice as much time! :evil:

Anyway, I'd just like to see it shaken up a bit, get people thinking outside the box, and I think changing the shape of the box (i.e., drastically cutting the alloted runtime) would be enough of a change that it would really change the fest. We'd probably get a whole wave of new people entering, we'd get different types of films entered, etc.

Shawn Philip Nelson
05-30-2007, 11:03 PM
Aye, I'd enter my first fest for such an idea!

Ken K
05-30-2007, 11:17 PM
As would I! :)

*Edit: Actually, I just thought of what I'm going to do for it. Now I'm all giddy! :grin:

Ralph Oshiro
05-31-2007, 01:29 AM
Barry:

Shorter is better for me since I never have any ideas that seem to last longer than two pages anyway. My working form has always leaned toward nonlinear, non-narrative themes as well. I guess my work often falls under the category of "under-developed story" or simply as (shudder) "art film." I've been trying to make "stream of consciousness" kinds of films, yet haven't quite gotten it down yet. Since I'm always weak on story, the shorter format would only benefit me.

On another note, I think the "open to all cameras" rule should stay INDEFINITELY. As you all can see, this did not necessarily open the contest up to hundreds more entrants, all shooting with FX1s, or all shooting with F900s. It shook out quite nicely, I thought. And as you'll see from my SpyFest entry, just having a great camera did NOT make up for a weak story, or unfinished plot. I think the "content is king" standard of measure for filmmaking here is still the greatest leveler of playing fields--not the camera by which we chose to shoot. Hopefully, ALL future DVXUSER contests will continue to consider cameras of all makes.

Weston
06-05-2007, 08:14 PM
I think warfest would be a good genre to tackle next. Between this fest and the last we havent had much action or excitement. War movies would really be a good way to break free of what has been going on lately and summer is the perfect time to do it.

Tom Marshall
06-05-2007, 08:54 PM
Or maybe just a more general "Actionfest"?

Weston
06-05-2007, 08:57 PM
yeah...either way...

something more exciting.

Shawn Philip Nelson
06-05-2007, 09:02 PM
60 second fest!

Mark Johnson
06-05-2007, 09:02 PM
Having participated in the San Francisco 3-minute film festival a number of times I think that 3 minutes is a good length we should move to as opposed to 2 minutes.

Mark Johnson
06-05-2007, 09:11 PM
Please let there be robots too.

Weston
06-05-2007, 09:14 PM
If the fest has a shorter time limit i think there should be a shorter amount of time allotted to make it. 3 months of buildup would be an awful lot for something thats only 1 or 2 minutes long.

I dont really dig the idea of a short short film festival though. Six minutes seems short enough.

Brandon Rice
06-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Regardless... I AM entering...

insanityfw
06-05-2007, 09:27 PM
the natives are restless. :)

Tom Marshall
06-05-2007, 09:31 PM
Please let there be robots too.

Robotfest? :beer:

Kholi
06-05-2007, 09:33 PM
Back to Sci-Fest?

Geoff_R
06-05-2007, 09:34 PM
Cliff Hanginator....he will rise

Ralph Oshiro
06-05-2007, 09:40 PM
Back to Sci-Fest?
YES, YES, YES!!! SCI-FEST II!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barry_S
06-05-2007, 09:47 PM
Next fest will definitely be a new topic--no repeats yet. But this thread is so entertaining, I wouldn't want to announce anything too soon and end it.:beer:

bosindy
06-05-2007, 09:59 PM
We had drama, wouldn't comedy make sense? There are people on this site that are riots. I for one hope it won't go less 6 minutes regrardless.

Brandon Rice
06-05-2007, 10:00 PM
Next fest will definitely be a new topic--no repeats yet. But this thread is so entertaining, I wouldn't want to announce anything too soon and end it.:beer:

Argh... not even a hint man ;) if you do have any ideas... would be nice to know an idea.. :)

Brandon Rice
06-05-2007, 10:00 PM
We had drama, wouldn't comedy make sense? There are people on this site that are riots. I for one hope it won't go less 6 minutes regrardless.

Wouldn't want comedy-fest... I work with a comedy director every day... I am a drama, serious kinda guy... need that man!

bosindy
06-05-2007, 10:07 PM
I think taking some out of there comfort zone (comedy when you are used to drama) is a good way to grow. Unless you are Sly Stallone.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/6439/1181106444.jpg

Weston
06-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Comedy might be kind of shaky. Spies Girls is one of the only really funny movies i've ever seen on here and that was funny mostly for the dvxuser in jokes.

Brandon Rice
06-05-2007, 10:09 PM
Fair enough... see I wouldn't say it's out of my comfort zone, as I've done a TON of comedy editing, and work as I said, with a comedy director every day... it's just old hat... :)

Tom Marshall
06-05-2007, 10:31 PM
I wouldn't vote for comedy.

JOE BLO
06-05-2007, 11:53 PM
I vote for Comedy!

Matt Sconce
06-06-2007, 01:36 AM
I vote action with a 3 minute time limit.

Matt Sconce
06-06-2007, 01:38 AM
Wait a minute! I changed my mind! Barf fest! Perfect! All characters must at one point projectile vomit! Okay...I have now slipped past sanity....going to bed now...

Logan_Frost
06-06-2007, 02:13 AM
As someone lurking on the outside and wanting to get involved in this -

Unless there's going to be a RadioFest later, I think the SilentFest would be kind of arbitrary. The whole point of these fests is to get people making films having to deal with all aspects of filmmaking. Whether you like it or not, audio is a critical point. Good audio goes unnoticed. Bad audio kills, so it's imperative that we as filmmakers never stop working on our ears.

So I don't end on a naysaying note, I would be for something like NoirFest.

No, it's not SpyFest 2.

NoirFest has some very specific elements involving the muddling of "good" and "bad," practically eschews action, and visually would be a challenge in terms of shadows (giving a good challenge for lighting).

Another could be (however you want to title it; PlayFest?) where all the films have to be an adaptation of a theatre play no younger than Shakespeare (meaning, from him all the way to the Greek tragedies).

Then, oh, how about QuoteFest? A famous writer, poet, President, whatever, is selected, and everyone has to make a short with a quote from that selected person being the crux of it in some way, whether literally or figuratively.

Just a few thoughts from someone working on getting involved.

Mike@AF
06-06-2007, 02:47 AM
I like the NoirFest idea. I could also go with ActionFest, CrimeFest, NonSyncFest, ThrillerFest, and FantasyFest.

ActionFest could be everything from Rambo to Hard Boiled to The Replacement Killers to Gone In 60 Seconds.

CrimeFest could be anything from Heat to The Godfather.

NonSyncFest could be anything you want except there can't be any sync dialogue. You can have sync sound and music, but no dialogue. Could get interesting and force everyone to work more visually. When I started film school the first project didn't allow any sync sound at all... we were lucky they allowed us to throw in music.

ThrillerFest could be any suspense/thriller like Silence of the Lambs, Psycho, or Se7en.

FantasyFest would be similar to SciFest, but not science fiction. You could do Lord of the Rings, but not Dune for example.

Another one... SportsFest. It would have to be about a sport, obviously.

punkkid
06-06-2007, 03:21 AM
I still think it should be short. I tend to only watch the first two minutes of a short unless it really takes me in within that time.

I don't think the time given time to make it should be much shorter either. To make a great short film it takes time even if it's two or three minutes. (shorter could create more difficulties)

But I would also love to see it an open genre or comedy fest as well.

aFox
06-06-2007, 04:23 AM
Fantasyfest would be cool !

ade4all
06-06-2007, 05:03 AM
Dogme style fest or an adapted version of its guidelines

Based on fact fest

(or combine the 2), guess I'm up for some gritty realism without specific subject matter

Chris Messineo
06-06-2007, 05:34 AM
I don't care about genre, but I do think shorter is better.

I would love to see a 1 minute time limit.

Gary French
06-06-2007, 05:38 AM
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tmnt
06-06-2007, 05:56 AM
Ahhh, I don't think doing 1 or 2 minute films are the way to go. At the end of the day we're all here to become better filmmakers, right? The more time spent collaborating, editing, shooting, etc. the more we grow - a 1 min short just won't allow for much of that.

I'd definately be open to doing a 1 or 2 min short but maybe as a miniFest in between the big ones.

Larry Rutledge
06-06-2007, 06:04 AM
On the contrary, part of being a better filmmaker is being a better story teller. And there is no better way, that I know of, for improving the ability to tell a story as concisely as possible, then the short form.

I have written a number of shorts of the past couple years and I can tell you my writing has greatly improved because I've been forced to really think about what it is that truly is important to whatever story I'm currently working on.

When I get frustrated with the short form, I just return to commercials. There you see (when they do it right) a complete story (beginning, middle, end) that is compelling, draws you in, gives you information, implies important back story, etc, etc in :30 or 1:00 ... If it can be done in :30 it can be done in 3:00.

But that said, I'm open to a lot of options...unfortunately, because we have a jury-less festival and because we get so many entries, I can't see them being opened up to a longer length. The 6 minutes is already the max that is feasible, IMHO, for the quanitity of entries received.

My choices, in order, would be:

* Action/Adventure (e.g. Raiders of the Lost Ark)
* Thriller (Suspense, not horror)
* Comedy

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 06:06 AM
I vote Thriller! 5 minutes or less...

And I'm not talking Michael Jackson either.

Chris Messineo
06-06-2007, 06:07 AM
Ahhh, I don't think doing 1 or 2 minute films are the way to go. At the end of the day we're all here to become better filmmakers, right? The more time spent collaborating, editing, shooting, etc. the more we grow - a 1 min short just won't allow for much of that.

Why doesn't a shorter film allow for that interaction?

To me, you still need a quality team, you just need a tighter story and you need to make every shot and moment count.

In many ways a 1 minute short would be harder and I think would force many of the filmmakers here to become better storytellers and filmmakers.

Edit: Larry beat me to the punch - I totally agree with him.

tmnt
06-06-2007, 06:14 AM
Sure, the shorter film allows for that interaction, just much less of it. That's the only point I'm trying to make.

Dustin R. Rogan
06-06-2007, 06:51 AM
Some of my ideas for NextFest:
*not in any order*

1) LaughFest (Comedy)
2) SportsFest
3) SilentFest *how we could test our story telling abilities without saying a word)
4) MusicFest (Musical) *sorry i just watch On The Lot and they had a guy do a 3 min musical, and it turned out pretty good
5) MockorDockFest

anyways i'll be back to check the forums i need to do work

Dustin

SilverWolf
06-06-2007, 07:50 AM
I'm all about ActionFest myself

Weston
06-06-2007, 08:01 AM
Any short film that works as a story in under 1 or 2 minutes usually feels like a commercial. It will have that smug twist or funny point that is present in all clever commercials...and that cleverness pisses me off. It seems like the shorter it gets the more contrived it feels and there is no space for naturalness.

Zak Forsman
06-06-2007, 08:59 AM
just wanted to second my earlier suggestion... a fest of films about sleep or sleeping, dreams, insomnia, etc... we'll call it SNOOZEFEST. it can't lose.

Steve_Arm
06-06-2007, 09:02 AM
This is where Horse jumps in and says... BOOZEFEST.

Beat Takeshi
06-06-2007, 11:46 AM
did he say Boobsfest?

HorseFilms
06-06-2007, 11:52 AM
This is where Horse jumps in and says... BOOZEFEST.

That's what HorrorFest was, but all of the booze was off camera. That shoot is a little hazy.:beer:

Barry_S
06-06-2007, 12:01 PM
Ok, we've got the next DVXFest dialed in and I think you guys are going to like it. Something new and a little different from what we normally do, but with a lot of room for creative flexibility. TalkingDogFest! Ok, that's not it, but you can easily work in a talking dog on the next fest and that's all that really matters. Right? We should have the announcement up shortly after the close of SpyFest.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 12:28 PM
did he say Boobsfest?

I'd vote for that :beer:

Mark Harris
06-06-2007, 12:28 PM
Something tells me Barry's not taking my suggestion of LebowskiFest...

Kholi
06-06-2007, 12:30 PM
There might've been a time when Action and Comedy would've drawn a "err.. please, no..." response. But, after DramaFest and the slew of worthwhile shorts I'd be up for watching some of you tackle Comedy, for sure.

DramaFest, to me, had the best entries of all the fests. Something like a Comedy genre could be good.

Steve_Arm
06-06-2007, 12:36 PM
Let's be honest... it's summer. Sea, sun... let it be Love Fest.

Beat Takeshi
06-06-2007, 12:36 PM
Ok, we've got the next DVXFest dialed in and I think you guys are going to like it. Something new and a little different from what we normally do, but with a lot of room for creative flexibility. TalkingDogFest! Ok, that's not it, but you can easily work in a talking dog on the next fest and that's all that really matters. Right? We should have the announcement up shortly after the close of SpyFest.

I'm doing mine on The son of Sam then!

Kholi
06-06-2007, 12:39 PM
Wait, was the Talking Dog stipulation for-serious? LOL. That could get hilariious.

Brandon Rice
06-06-2007, 12:42 PM
Let's be honest... it's summer. Sea, sun... let it be Love Fest.
Romance fest could be cool :)

Hootzie
06-06-2007, 01:04 PM
RomanceFest would be awesome

First Time Fest: Movies about a characters first time doing something
Pet Fest: Movies featuring characters with a pet
Cell Fest: Movies featuring cell phone usage
Weather Fest: Movies featuring weather phenomona
Solo Fest: Movies with only one character

tmnt
06-06-2007, 01:25 PM
PsychoFEST. Serial killer, some mental illnesses etc.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 01:28 PM
PsychoFEST. Serial killer, some mental illnesses etc.

Ooohhhh... I like that one! :thumbup:

Larry Rutledge
06-06-2007, 01:55 PM
BasketballPlayingDogFest :thumbsup:



:grin: :grin: :grin:

-zach-
06-06-2007, 01:56 PM
SpeculationFest

3-minute narratives on what YOU think the next fest will be.

Sad Max
06-06-2007, 01:58 PM
French-New-Wave Fest.

Shaky handheld camera work, egregious jump cuts and lots and lots and lots of smoking.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 01:58 PM
Wow... after reading some of these threads, maybe the next fest should be Bashfest... you know, make the best film you can and have other people tear it apart and insult your filmmaking abilities... :huh:

Larry Rutledge
06-06-2007, 01:58 PM
In all seriousness, though its been mentioned several times already, I think a "SmallFest" (or whatever you want to call it) where the genre/theme is wide open. The only stipulation...the film MUST be under 2:00.

Matt Sconce
06-06-2007, 02:01 PM
Wow... after reading some of these threads, maybe the next fest should be Bashfest... you know, make the best film you can and have other people tear it apart and insult your filmmaking abilities... :huh:


Yep...:crybaby:

Steve_Arm
06-06-2007, 02:02 PM
Wow... after reading some of these threads, maybe the next fest should be Bashfest... you know, make the best film you can and have other people tear it apart and insult your filmmaking abilities... :huh:

:thumbup: HumiliationFest!

Larry Rutledge
06-06-2007, 02:03 PM
How about "OnTheLotFest" ... where you make films you would be embarrased to show your own mother, then pass them off as the next best Hollywood blockbuster :evil:

Matt Sconce
06-06-2007, 02:04 PM
In all seriousness, though its been mentioned several times already, I think a "SmallFest" (or whatever you want to call it) where the genre/theme is wide open. The only stipulation...the film MUST be under 2:00. That's perty cool:thumbup: :beer: , to me

Chris Messineo
06-06-2007, 02:06 PM
In all seriousness, though its been mentioned several times already, I think a "SmallFest" (or whatever you want to call it) where the genre/theme is wide open. The only stipulation...the film MUST be under 2:00.
Very cool.

Weston
06-06-2007, 02:11 PM
How about "OnTheLotFest" ... where you make films you would be embarrased to show your own mother, then pass them off as the next best Hollywood blockbuster :evil:

Then halfway through the fest the mods will change the rules and format. It'll make for killer tv!

Brandon Rice
06-06-2007, 02:12 PM
Lol!

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 02:16 PM
How about "OnTheLotFest" ... where you make films you would be embarrased to show your own mother, then pass them off as the next best Hollywood blockbuster :evil:

You might be on to something there, Larry... we could have Michael Bay be one of the guest judges. His one suggestion will be "Work on the photography."

And for a special rule, just make people think that it was done within the filming dates... it doesn't really have to be, but how would people really know? :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-06-2007, 02:20 PM
Dogma 95 Fest.
- Available Light. (or faked available light)
- No guns.
- No implausible plot twists.
- No VFX.

You are allowed to break some of the rules, just like the real dogma filmmakers. Though maybe we should stick to "no guns". Don't get me wrong -- I love em. No problem with lots of guns in spyfest ... none. Just think we can all grow if we force ourselves to work without or usual crutches.

Naturalistic Story, Acting and Camera only.

Can you make a thoroughly engaging and taught movie with just those elements?

Just throwin' it out there.

...
After that I would suggest James Bond Fan Film Fest :evil:

-zach-
06-06-2007, 02:24 PM
BeatingADeadHorseFest

provided that... the horse is already dead before the film starts.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 02:25 PM
YouDon'tKnowJackFest... there's one requirement... all films must star Jack Daniel Stanley... :beer:

Or TomFest... all films must star yours truly... :)

Michael_Petro
06-06-2007, 02:28 PM
Man I dunno he seems pron to spankin it.... and i just do the girl girl thing... Those possibilities are making me wanna shove a sewing needle through my temple... :beer:


YouDon'tKnowJackFest... there's one requirement... all films must star Jack Daniel Stanley... :beer:

Or TomFest... all films must star yours truly... :)

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 02:30 PM
Man I dunno he seems pron to spankin it.... and i just do the girl girl thing... Those possibilities are making me wanna shove a sewing needle through my temple... :beer:

hahaha!! :beer:

Barry_Green
06-06-2007, 02:33 PM
Dogma 95 Fest.

Y'know, people ragged on the Dogme "manifesto" but the way I look at it, it strips away all "crutches" and puts you in such a circumstance that hey, if you can make a GOOD film under those restrictions, then that's something to be proud of.

Hard to believe it's 12 years old now.

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-06-2007, 02:35 PM
Yeah there is a stigma to it for sure.

But I respect what they were going for.

I think I would like to try something like that.

dougspice
06-06-2007, 02:36 PM
I like Jack's idea. Or at least the "no guns" rule, no matter what genre. You walk funny when your crutch is bigger than your body.

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-06-2007, 02:39 PM
I would hate to ban guns from almost-anything-else fest though.

If it's a dogma kind of thing where the whole idea is EXTREME LIMITATION, then yeah.

But I would hate to tell people they couldn't use guns in almost anything else especially since they are so germane to so many of the genre's we seem to love around here.

And some of us are never happier than when compositing muzzle flares over stolen shots.

Michael_Petro
06-06-2007, 02:40 PM
Wow just wikipedia'ed Dogme 95 didn't know what it was.... but i like that idea..

Mark Harris
06-06-2007, 02:41 PM
Y'know, people ragged on the Dogme "manifesto" but the way I look at it, it strips away all "crutches" and puts you in such a circumstance that hey, if you can make a GOOD film under those restrictions, then that's something to be proud of.

Hard to believe it's 12 years old now.

Lights are not a crutch in photography. And people have been making good movies since the dawn of the medium without resorting to these shenanigans.

I think it's a GREAT film school exercise, but not really a great approach to making a movie.

And pound for pound, I don't think it's produced any greater percentage of good movies than doing it with "crutches" does.

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-06-2007, 02:46 PM
I agree with you Mark.

But I think it can be a useful exercise and method at the same time ... at least for a film or two.

As for the light ... of course you are right and I don't think Barry would assert that lighting is a crutch of photography.

But

anything can be a crutch ... dialogue if you can't light ... lighting if you can't block ... etc.

and

1) If that's ALL you do or it masks content ... what happens if you don't have it. I know there are some films you feel have gotten by on that with little content

2) the dogma rules were made to be broken ... they use lights or SFX or sneak a gun in when they need to.

I don't think anyone here is so advanced that doing a short that was supposed to at least look natural, even if you cheat, would be counterproductive.

but anyway just throwin it out there

wouldn't want to do it while we were doing 2 minute fest though, that would be too many challenges at once I think

Herman Witkam
06-06-2007, 02:51 PM
I'd love a Dogma fest - except for one thing: DO allow use of non-diegetic music :grin:

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-06-2007, 02:53 PM
Yeah I was thinking of you when I suggested that actually ... in the back of my head thinking that would be the part that sucked the most ... no herman :(

Dustin R. Rogan
06-06-2007, 03:03 PM
I like the Psycho/Serial Killer idea but leave the 6min time limit. Woot Woot!! :-Laugh(DBG):

Barry_Green
06-06-2007, 03:16 PM
Lights are not a crutch in photography. And people have been making good movies since the dawn of the medium without resorting to these shenanigans.
Looks like I left it wide open for misinterpretation -- sorry Mark, please understand I'm not trying to impugn anything else, nor am I saying that the Dogme rules led to any improvement in filmmaking at all.

All I was trying to say was: the rules are so ridiculous, so confining, and so constraining that if someone can actually abide by those rules and still produce a good film, then they have mastered the art form.

Of course, in reality the whole thing backfired and talentless filmmakers seized upon it as a claim for legitimacy (as in, "I didn't use lights because Dogme said not to," rather than admitting that they wouldn't know how to light anway, etc.) So we had a flood of lousy handheld camcorder movies that did *nothing* to advance the genre or the art form.

I view the Dogme manifesto as an exercise to stretch the imagination, nothing more. And I think that in that context it might be a good thing, because it forces filmmakers to use creative muscles they might never otherwise have needed to tax. It was an interesting idea; and it might prove an interesting idea for a DVXFest someday.

Larry Rutledge
06-06-2007, 03:24 PM
This dogme rule might make a little difficult:

The final picture must be transferred to the Academy 35mm film, with an aspect ratio of 4:3, that is, not widescreen.

Mark Harris
06-06-2007, 03:36 PM
Looks like I left it wide open for misinterpretation -- sorry Mark, please understand I'm not trying to impugn anything else, nor am I saying that the Dogme rules led to any improvement in filmmaking at all.

All I was trying to say was: the rules are so ridiculous, so confining, and so constraining that if someone can actually abide by those rules and still produce a good film, then they have mastered the art form.

I view the Dogme manifesto as an exercise to stretch the imagination, nothing more. And I think that in that context it might be a good thing, because it forces filmmakers to use creative muscles they might never otherwise have needed to tax. It was an interesting idea; and it might prove an interesting idea for a DVXFest someday.

Yeah I understand. Didn't mean to sound like I was jumping on you. And I agree that as an exercise and even a good DVXFest.

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but I also like the idea of:

"One Location Fest." for some of the same reasons you guys like Dogme. I think seeing Norm's film and S H I T K I C K E R both show some more intensity of thought due to that limitation. I think both filmmakers were forced to focus on the story and the people. And it might make it easier to also focus on higher technical quality.

Oh Barry, I do remember this one AWESOME dogme film. It's actually on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Check it out, you remember this one?

Isaac_Brody
06-06-2007, 03:36 PM
The enemy of art is the absence of limitations. Dogme is a lot of limitations.

I thought The Celebration was a really strong Dogme film, probably the strongest I've seen.

Zak Forsman
06-06-2007, 03:40 PM
you do DogmeFest, and you can count me in. i concur with isaac (and mr. welles). stripping away the usual devices could lead to even more ingenuity than we saw in DramaFest.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 03:41 PM
For some reason I don't think Dogma would work too well around here...

Mark Harris
06-06-2007, 03:45 PM
The enemy of art is the absence of limitations. Dogme is a lot of limitations.

I thought The Celebration was a really strong Dogme film, probably the strongest I've seen.

Sure, that's why they were able to make great films throughout the reign of the Hayes code. they were forced to find creative solutions.

I think the celebration is the ONLY one I thought was good. And even then I didn't see why it wouldn't have been AS good with lights :)

Mark Harris
06-06-2007, 03:50 PM
you do DogmeFest, and you can count me in. i concur with isaac (and mr. welles). stripping away the usual devices could lead to even more ingenuity than we saw in DramaFest.

Yeah, because Welles was so great at working without devices...and under strict limitations...:)

Sad Max
06-06-2007, 05:29 PM
I think the first device to go, should be the camera.

Now that will force some creativity...

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 05:36 PM
The enemy of art is the absence of limitations.

Who said that? The enemy of art IS limitations.

Weston
06-06-2007, 05:41 PM
i dont know who said that....but its definately true in some cases.

studio and budget limitations for George Lucas = star wars original trilogy
no limitations whatsoever for George = prequel trilogy

dougspice
06-06-2007, 05:42 PM
Who said that? The enemy of art IS limitations.

I think you're assuming that limitations = censorship, and even so I'd be more inclined to agree with the original quote than with yours.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm actually referring to limitations as far as artistic limitations. A painter is limited by his canvas, brushes, and paints. A musician is limited by time and notes. A filmmaker is limited by light and technical limitations related to the media, be it film or video. There is only so much dynamic range a camera can capture. That's what I'm referring to. Those are the same types of limits that Dogma places on a film...

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-06-2007, 05:54 PM
I think the first device to go, should be the camera.

Now that will force some creativity...
ROFL


Who said that? The enemy of art IS limitations.

The thinking goes like this. If you have every tool in the world you don't have to invent anything.

Look at the guy that made that movie with still images about a girl that lost her camera ... he's on the forum here. But he found a way to make a movie without a movie camera even.

And the result was an interesting film told in a completely inventive and refreshing way and with more resoluition than we have ever come close to with the HVX.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 05:58 PM
See, that's the thing. He used a non-traditional tool and made something unique. That to me is not being bound by limitations. I suppose it's 2 different ways of looking at the same thing, really...

Kholi
06-06-2007, 06:00 PM
I wanna see dogs talk.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 06:02 PM
I wanna see dogs talk.

I want to see something made BY you were dogs talk... :grin:

Seriously... do a fest... it's fun...

Kholi
06-06-2007, 06:06 PM
I would have this time, too bad I got caught up in shooting other things. xD

Editing John Woo entry right now.

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 06:07 PM
You should do the next one...

Kholi
06-06-2007, 06:10 PM
If I have time I will. Lately, I've actually gotten the pleasure of getting caught up in doing other projects. My wish to find people to work with ended up coming true.

But, if it's a cool genre I'll try to squeeze a fest entry in?

Barry_Green
06-06-2007, 06:15 PM
Thanks, Mark. Nice rickroll, ha ha.

I'm not defending the "Dogme movement" as it were; I've seen a few and not been impressed, although Rick Schmidt's Dogme-certified film "Chetzemoka's Curse" is probably the best of his that I've seen.
http://www.lightvideo.com/films.aspx#chetzemoka

For those who don't understand what I mean by the "crutches", let's just point back to Mark's video that he pointed to. There you've got lights, actors, sets, a fake scenario, all that. And the result is a cheesy overplayed music video. On the other side we could look to something like this clip from the Dogme film I did with Rick. There's no fake sets, no lights, anything like that, but I think you'll all agree it offers a little more substance than getting Rickrolled! :thumbsup:

http://fiftv.com/chetzemoka.html

-zach-
06-06-2007, 06:24 PM
http://fiftv.com/chetzemoka.html

oh, you're evil.

ade4all
06-06-2007, 06:53 PM
Dogme style fest or an adapted version of its guidelines

Based on fact fest

(or combine the 2), guess I'm up for some gritty realism without specific subject matter


good to see a healthy discussion on the possibility, though jack definitely put it in a more enticing way :beer:

Tom Marshall
06-06-2007, 07:00 PM
Here's a great example of Dogma... very basic, no special lighting. I believe it's strict Dogma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03y17Y5ttT8

Barry_Green
06-06-2007, 07:46 PM
Not quite. Remember that one of the Dogme rules is that the camera has to always be handheld. I appreciate the filmmaker's attempts to comply to the spirit of the Dogme95 Manifesto, but the use of the tripod disqualifies him from "strict adherence." Excellent clip though.

Mark Harris
06-06-2007, 09:50 PM
http://fiftv.com/chetzemoka.html

You just won every contest there ever was, or ever will be...

Brandon Rice
06-06-2007, 09:54 PM
hey... I just want action-fest
:)

Barry_Green
06-06-2007, 10:00 PM
You just won every contest there ever was, or ever will be...
Sweet! :thumbsup:

abalex
06-06-2007, 10:13 PM
A good choice for a fest could be one where you shoot a 5min short without any cuts during those 5 min, if you know what I mean.

5min, no cuts, an actor's nightmare, :)

GV.

Mike@AF
06-06-2007, 11:30 PM
A good choice for a fest could be one where you shoot a 5min short without any cuts during those 5 min, if you know what I mean.

5min, no cuts, an actor's nightmare, :)

GV.

ala Rope or the opening sequence from Snake Eyes?

Grug
06-07-2007, 12:10 AM
I think it's pretty obvious what to do next....Rick-Fest! All original Rick Astley music video clips.

JOE BLO
06-07-2007, 12:11 AM
Here's my pitch... shorts must be centered around a theme of sleep or sleeping, or dreams, or insomnia.... and we'll call it SNOOZEFEST!!!!
LOL!!! Very funny Zak.

abalex
06-07-2007, 01:01 AM
SNOOZEFEST! yeah!

Chris Messineo
06-07-2007, 05:12 AM
Dogme Fest would be cool. Sometimes restrictions produce the most creativity.

Jaime V
06-07-2007, 05:44 AM
One of the things I've enjoyed with these fests is that with the relatively few fest rules for each one, if you really want to do something you can figure out a way to do it.

For instanace, if the next fest is Comedy-Fest, and you want to do action...then heck do an Action Comedy. Or vice versa...that's the beautiful thing about genres and sub-genres.

I'm pretty much down for whatever comes next, except musical I think...I don't know anyone that can sing :)

-Jaime

Darkline
06-07-2007, 05:50 AM
The idea of placing technical limitations on a group of people who couldnt afford a decent microphone is somewhat ironic. We dont all have the best tools at our disposal and some films result in a dogma look but not through choice.... :-)

...but I see what you're getting at. What you want to try and do is remove something that leads to cliche work. Get film-makers to think in a non-hollywood way. But thats often the script and not the tools used to execute it.

i.e a standard thinking is - You want drama - point at gun at someone - its easy and people may fall back on it. But to then remove guns from the rules and that same director will substitue it for a lead pipe or knife; fundamentally the idea would be the same.

The problem with a one minute film is that Ive never seen a one minute film that was anything but a gimmick. The end is normally a generic plot turn or a comical moment. 1 minute films can be heavy on slapstick too. 'Profound 1 minute fest' that would be a challenge for even the most accomplished film makers. The more MTV style we have to make out shorts, the less we can express emotion. Of course you can break this rule, but I think a 1 min fest would lead to even more style over substance entries than we have right now.

The answer is that film-makers should challege themselves. I dont know if there is a sure-fire way to make people do it by twisting the rules. But you can try.

Did anyone see the five obstructions? I thought that was a lot of fun. Lars Von Trier gave his mate a 'set' of rules that he cannot break when making a short film. Some of the most impossible rules led to the most creative thinking. The most fun was 'no edit longer than 12 frames'. Each time he gave him a different set of rules for his short.

I think the standard is getting better all the time on here as all of us improve our technique and try new things. There is a process of emulation before creation and I think that's natural for a lot of new film-makers. Most people want to learn the rules before they break them.

So with all that I say the next fest is paedophile fest.

Ki-Ki
06-07-2007, 07:19 AM
Action-Fest

Matt Sconce
06-07-2007, 07:25 AM
I am all about talking dog fest. That sounds funny and very very strange.

Chris Messineo
06-07-2007, 07:33 AM
Did anyone see the five obstructions? I thought that was a lot of fun. Lars Von Trier gave his mate a 'set' of rules that he cannot break when making a short film. Some of the most impossible rules led to the most creative thinking. The most fun was 'no edit longer than 12 frames'. Each time he gave him a different set of rules for his short.
I loved this film. It was very inspirational.

Zak Forsman
06-07-2007, 09:31 AM
or how about Remake/Sequel Fest -- remake or serialize an entry in a previous DVXFest!!! I suppose there could copyright issues. :( nevermind.

Weston
06-07-2007, 09:43 AM
I got dibs on "The Awakening 2: Revenge of the Tupperware".

Hopefully moviemaster doesnt mind.

Ben Sliker
06-07-2007, 10:33 AM
Oh yeah Weston, I call "similos", take that.

Brandon Rice
06-07-2007, 10:36 AM
I'll go with Pandora! (Norm's sci-fest entry)

Matt Sconce
06-07-2007, 10:40 AM
Bone Hand, Baby Yeah!!

HorseFilms
06-07-2007, 10:41 AM
I'll remake one of my own, but this time...


80% Less Sucking!!!!!!!

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-07-2007, 11:00 AM
ROFL

I can see the poster now.


"Now with 80% less suck!"

"Guaranteed to SUCK LESS!"

"New and Improved with REDUCED SUCKAGE!"

"This movie SUCKS LESS. Trust me. Jeremy Hyler."


haha
:grin:

(not that your movies suck, far from it, but your comment is too funny and makes a funny marketing campaign)

Brandon Rice
06-07-2007, 11:14 AM
HAHAHA! LOL... "It's a lot better than it was the last time" LOL

Mark Harris
06-07-2007, 11:15 AM
reminds me when a friend and I started our software consultancy several years ago, the first motto we came up with was:

"We probably won't screw you." :)

insanityfw
06-07-2007, 11:31 AM
ROFL

I can see the poster now.


"Now with 80% less suck!"

"Guaranteed to SUCK LESS!"

"New and Improved with REDUCED SUCKAGE!"

"This movie SUCKS LESS. Trust me. Jeremy Hyler."


haha
:grin:


(not that your movies suck, far from it, but your comment is too funny and makes a funny marketing campaign)

I'm all for SuckFest

Here's my horrofest entry that never made it. It sucks on many levels. :)

http://www.undergroundfilm.org/films/detail.tcl?wid=1030367

Weston
06-07-2007, 11:34 AM
if i remade my horrorfest entry with 100% less suck....it would probably still suck.

insanityfw
06-07-2007, 11:41 AM
if i remade my horrorfest entry with 100% less suck....it would probably still suck.
LOL. I'm with you on that one.

I'm all about a GET IT DONE ON TIME FEST. I don't care what the subject matter is...I just need to get one done on time and without too much drama.

Mark Harris
06-07-2007, 11:51 AM
I'm all for SuckFest

Here's my horrofest entry that never made it. It sucks on many levels. :)

http://www.undergroundfilm.org/films/detail.tcl?wid=1030367

Holy cow that movie is awesome. great job.

Ben Sliker
06-07-2007, 11:52 AM
lol.

"can we turn the suck track down on these entries this time around?"

insanityfw
06-07-2007, 11:54 AM
Holy cow that movie is awesome. great job.

Thanks Mark. That means a lot coming from you.

Zak Forsman
06-07-2007, 11:56 AM
this is another *ambitious* idea that would raise issues of ownership, but how about FeatureFest -- where entries conform to a centralized concept (like "an alien invasion" or "falling in/out of love") while being structured with discernable "act breaks", and the winner gets to take all the films and cut them in parallel into a feature length film. i'm thinking something like "short cuts" (minus the sharing of characters) where various short stories interweave and are linked thematically. could be an interesting experiment. six minutes each probably won't provide enough material for the feature cut though. anyway, just throwing out more random ideas...

Ramon Boutviseth
06-07-2007, 12:20 PM
we should do zombie fest again :) wait i take that back.. horrorfest!

Jack Daniel Stanley
06-07-2007, 12:30 PM
I would love to revisit that genre!

cinealma
06-07-2007, 12:33 PM
Ditto on the zombie/horror.

How about...

Splatter Fest!!! All films required to be UNDER 6 minutes, but must use OVER 6 gallons of blood.

Mark Harris
06-07-2007, 12:36 PM
I think it would be fun to have a horror fest every Halloween.

HorseFilms
06-07-2007, 02:10 PM
I think it would be fun to have a horror fest every Halloween.
Agreed.:beer:

insanityfw
06-07-2007, 02:10 PM
I think it would be fun to have a horror fest every Halloween.

That's a really good idea. Maybe this time I could get my entry finished in time. :)

arielman
06-07-2007, 02:20 PM
we should do zombie fest again :) wait i take that back.. horrorfest!

Great idea!



I think it would be fun to have a horror fest every Halloween.


I also agree
Ian

gabrielflorit
06-07-2007, 02:31 PM
How about a MimeFest? Anything goes, except:

1) 3 minutes or less.
2) At least one scene featuring a mime (think Blow-Up).

Mark Johnson
06-07-2007, 02:34 PM
HorrorFest was awesome. I, too, vote to revisit the genre!

Kholi
06-07-2007, 02:38 PM
I agree on fitting a horror/thriller/something for Halloween fest in so that the DVD can be out for Halloween.

I love Halloween!!!

Mark Harris
06-07-2007, 02:49 PM
so that the DVD can be out for Halloween...

crickets....crickets...

Kholi
06-07-2007, 02:58 PM
Go away, Mark Harris.

Brandon Rice
06-07-2007, 03:00 PM
Go away... Kholi... LOL

J/K BTW :)

Max R. Wilson
06-07-2007, 03:37 PM
I think horrorFest would be fun to again.
HorrorFest was awesome. I, too, vote to revisit the genre!

RebeccaD
06-07-2007, 03:44 PM
Horrorfest was cool, but I like experimenting with other genres too. Hmm, tough call.

Matt Sconce
06-07-2007, 04:06 PM
comedy fest...must be three minutes and utilize a talking dog. Yeah baby!

Aaron Marshall
06-07-2007, 04:21 PM
I would love to revisit that genre!

Yeah I bet you would Mr. I-won-an-HVX-with-my-mad-skillz

Hey, I'm up for it. Horror Fest 2?

Brandon Rice
06-07-2007, 04:31 PM
Sci-Fest 2 first ;) :)

punkkid
06-07-2007, 04:37 PM
I love the idea of horror fest ever holloween

HorseFilms
06-07-2007, 04:58 PM
HorrorFest for Halloween would rule, even if it's informal. No prizes, no voting... just making a flick and showing it. That would be a blast.

Brandon Rice
06-07-2007, 05:02 PM
Not a horror guy myself...

Matt Sconce
06-07-2007, 05:03 PM
I likey the horror fest....

Tom Marshall
06-07-2007, 05:44 PM
I think horrorFest would be fun to again.

Maybe this time we could even finish it... haha

Inexistence
06-07-2007, 07:06 PM
I missed zombie fest the first time around. Horror is always fun.

Aaron Marshall
06-07-2007, 07:11 PM
Sci-Fest 2 first ;) :)

That's not a bad idea either.

How about Fantasy Fest? You could go in a lot of different directions including Sci Fi.

Barry_Green
06-07-2007, 07:23 PM
What would you guys think about the idea of using fixed props and lines, but opening it up to any genre? Like, make whatever film you want but it's gotta feature a telephone book and the line "Do I look stupid to you?" That way the comedy guys could do comedy, the sci-fi guys could do sci-fi, etc...

... any appeal to an idea like that?

Mark T. Aro
06-07-2007, 07:26 PM
What would you guys think about the idea of using fixed props and lines, but opening it up to any genre? Like, make whatever film you want but it's gotta feature a telephone book and the line "Do I look stupid to you?" That way the comedy guys could do comedy, the sci-fi guys could do sci-fi, etc...

... any appeal to an idea like that?

I think that is a cool idea. I don't know about the phone book, but I like the idea of specifying a few elements but that they can be portrayed in any genre. You might have less arguments about whether or not the film in question really fits the style... :thumbup:

chris f
06-07-2007, 07:29 PM
if we did that could we write "Do I look stupid to you?" on a telephone book, take a picture of it and add it to the credits of our film? jk jk, I was actually thinking about bringing the prop and the line requirement up because I'm doing my first 48 hour film fest later this month and that's what they do, you have to include a certain prop, line of dialogue, and a certain character in your film.

Kholi
06-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Barry,

Didn't DVXuser try that before and it went a little wrong? The idea sounds REALLY good, though.