NAB - hoodman releasing RAW H2 - p2 competitor

[tak1108]

I was watching the freshDV podcast and there is an interview with someone at hoodman who says they are releasing 16gb and 32gb RAW H2 cards which will compete with P2 cards. They claim cheaper than Panasonic.

http://bayareafilmmakers.com/articles/images/H2.jpg

[David Saraceno]

It's been reported here.

Some people claim that it is not a RAIDed card ala the p2.

[Kholi]

That's neat. Who's going to be the first person to trust it with their footage?

[THoff]

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't using RAID. Advances in flash memory technology allow for much higher transfer rates than when P2 was first conceived, and I'm certain that both the H2 cards and >8GB Panasonic P2 cards use SDHC instead of SD anyway, which permits higher storage densities without resorting to RAID0.

[TwistedLincoln]

This is exciting news. Regardless of if the price is better or not, the fact that competition is occuring suggests that P2 is going to be around for a while in one form or another.

My hope is that this company will support a driver for GNU/Linux...

By the way, did anyone else notice that the card pictured is 16bit PCMCIA, rather than 32bit Cardbus? That seems a bit odd to me. I wonder what transfer times will be?

[Ryan Patrick O'Hara]

By the way, did anyone else notice that the card pictured is 16bit PCMCIA, rather than 32bit Cardbus? That seems a bit odd to me. I wonder what transfer times will be?

How can you tell?

[SimonCudby]

That's neat. Who's going to be the first person to trust it with their footage?

I am a pro still shooter. I was talked into buying two Hoodman 8gb CF cards at Samys Camera. I am happy to say that I have had zero problems after shooting 20k+ images.

[Look 1st]

lets hope it pans out! I cant see why it wouldnt, besides the market would NEVER support a product that wasnt up to par with the original... heres to hoping for the best:bath:

[arrestthisman]

Any word yet on their price. It'd have to be much lower than Panny to sell.

I could totally see buying a couple of the hoodmans for when my other cards fill up and SOMETHING is better than nothing. I.E. A shot I want to get, but can't cause I'm offloading, and these are just in my pocket because I don't reat them with the same care because they're cheaper!

Sounds good to me. Tier quality media! yay!

[jake stutheit]

has anyone heard a projected release date? i thought i read something about june in another post.

[Justyn]

SWEET... Maybe Sandisk would jump into this kind of thing too. It's good for all people.. panny included as it shows the industry buy in. Could you imagine if the 16 gig cards were like 500... Man, that would be sweet and I'd have to get 4 of them....

[Lenilenapi]

How much are Hoodman 8Gig cards? I didn't know they existed.

[David Saraceno]

They're not yet shipping and no price is set.

Only info is that they will be less expensive the Panasonic's

[esperman]

has anyone heard a projected release date? i thought i read something about june in another post.
they are scheduled to be released June 16th.

[TimurCivan]

with the advent of the solid state sony can, things are going to get interesting in the flash media video market. this is proof things are gonna be awesome soon enough.....

[TwistedLincoln]

By the way, did anyone else notice that the card pictured is 16bit PCMCIA, rather than 32bit Cardbus? That seems a bit odd to me. I wonder what transfer times will be?


How can you tell?
32bit Cardbus cards have those gold "buttons" on the top of the card. They keep it from being fully inserted into a regular 16bit only PCMCIA card slot. The 16bit style cards have a smooth front connector, with no gold bumps.

[mainstreetprod]

Anyone think this news has something to do with Panny's sudden P2 price drop? A little competition to stir the pot?

[jake stutheit]

Anyone think this news has something to do with Panny's sudden P2 price drop? A little competition to stir the pot?
I would think so. Panny would be stupid not to throw us a bone after all these exciting announcements. ie. the new solid state sony cam / h2 cards / cineporter coming out soon...Man, that cineporter may soon be a really unnecessary product if p2 prices keep dropping, new P2 products come out and its release gets delayed much longer.

[THoff]

My guess the lower P2 card prices have more to do with a move towards 16GB and higher capacity cards and the switch to SDHC memory modules than the release of H2.

If the H2 cards turn out to be as reliable as P2 cards, Hoodman will sell a ton of them, but it will still be just a fraction of the cards that Panasonic sells. Remember that they are supplying millions of dollars worth of hardware -- including lots of cards -- to various networks / stations / producers.

[Barry_Green]

with the advent of the solid state sony can, things are going to get interesting in the flash media video market. this is proof things are gonna be awesome soon enough.....
Actually I was taking stock -- basically every major camera manufacturer (2/3" broadcast cams) is now offering solid-state recording. Thomson/Grass Valley Infinity, Ikegami, Red, Panasonic, and now Sony. Solid state is inevitable...

[TimurCivan]

i just hope thoes RAW p2 cards are reliable.

And barry,

MAN i wish i could be at NAB..... i swear to god, its like a big giant candy store......

[RE1000]

Hopefully they will be reliable and at least $200 cheaper than the Panasonic P2 cards. I wonder if anyone like cnet or such, will review them before they are released?

[LighthouseMedia]

All you guys wishing to be at NAB check out our video coverage at Freshdv.com (http://www.freshdv.com/nab/). You can "See" all the new toys for yourself. including demos of Apple's new color and Motion3 apps and MUCH MUCH MORE!! We'll be upload more videos all weekend and into next wek

[arrestthisman]

studiodaily is covering it too... just sayn'

[austin.forsyth]

32bit Cardbus cards have those gold "buttons" on the top of the card. They keep it from being fully inserted into a regular 16bit only PCMCIA card slot. The 16bit style cards have a smooth front connector, with no gold bumps.
That is not true. Some older CardBus cards have a gold connector, with bumps, the ancient Xircom Realport ethernet card for example, came in 16-bit and 32-bit flavors, and the 16-bit had a smooth silver strip, the 32-bit, a studded gold strip.

The strip doesn't affect the cards insertion. The cards are keyed on either side, and a 32-bit card has an extra notch on the right side, looking at the card from the connector end.