View Full Version : Sony 1/2" =2/3" sony math
P2metoo
04-12-2007, 07:49 AM
Sony said increasing the picture quality and making the cameras and related equipment 1080i/720p switchable is paramount to the future of the format. For the foreseeable future, the cameras will use ½-inch CCDs, but a 2/3-inch XDCAM HD camera is planned for some time in 2008. [Sony said their current ½-inch imagers use the entire surface area, making them comparable in acquisition quality to others’ 2/3-inch CCDs.]
Here we go Sony told everyone 2/3" coming soon I guess they can not make it. I guess it is too difficult to make 2/3" camera for them. Panasonic delivering the 2/3 in HDX500 and HDX2000 but sonys 1/3" is better then 2/3"
Amazing math.
William_Robinette
04-12-2007, 08:08 AM
I'm confused by your response. In that quote, they are not saying their 1/3" chip cameras are the same quality as their 2/3" cameras.
And Sony definitely knows how to make a 2/3" cam, and the idea that it is too hard for them to do so is simply outrageous.
I guess I don't understand the point of your post. If you are looking to take a jab at Sony for some reason, remember that cameras are just tools.
David Saraceno
04-12-2007, 10:16 AM
Please turn off the RED.
It hurts to read the text.
Take_1
04-12-2007, 10:35 AM
Ouch!!!
RED
OUCH!!!
Barry_Green
04-12-2007, 11:29 AM
Obviously he didn't mean 1/3" is better than 2/3", his whole post was about 1/2". I would guess that the 1/3" was a typo and he meant 2/3".
Interesting that Sony appears to be trending towards smaller chips. Their V1U is 1/4" when the competition is all 1/3"; their XDCAM is 1/2" when the competition is 2/3". Wonder if these are isolated incidents, or if this is a new design philosophy for them?
Policar
04-12-2007, 12:00 PM
Obviously he didn't mean 1/3" is better than 2/3", his whole post was about 1/2". I would guess that the 1/3" was a typo and he meant 2/3".
Interesting that Sony appears to be trending towards smaller chips. Their V1U is 1/4" when the competition is all 1/3"; their XDCAM is 1/2" when the competition is 2/3". Wonder if these are isolated incidents, or if this is a new design philosophy for them?
A few years back Bill Kennedy of Panasonic said, off the record, that, sensor-wise, everything is getting smaller...he then hinted that the more distant future will be one chip designs.
Things are certainly going in that direction.
P2metoo
04-12-2007, 08:56 PM
THe Point I was trying to make is SONY 2/3" camera which they promised many customer in replacement for 1/2" XDHDCAM if they purchase the 1/2" XDHDCAM. They suppose to deliver this year but it looks like they are posponding it to next year. THe cover up is the 1/2" is as good as 2/3" this is from there NAB announcement news story. Again people who brought 1/2" XDCAM such as CBS now has to wait for another year for the 2/3" camera. I think this a bad for Sony.
greenheron
04-12-2007, 09:15 PM
Sony will be showing a preview of their 2/3" XDCAM HD running at 50mbps at NAB 2007.
http://www.studiodaily.com/main/news/7934.html
By the way when did Sony, or Panasonic for that matter, promise you anything.
THoff
04-13-2007, 07:10 PM
Even if the sensors are getting better, larger sensors are still crucial if you want shallow DOF. Try as you might, a 1/6" CCD will never be a substitute for a 2/3" CCD.
ripupthehwy
04-13-2007, 08:18 PM
Interesting that Sony appears to be trending towards smaller chips.
Maybe sony is making smaller chips to decrease the chances of developing bad pixels, as their professional cameras often do after 2 yrs. I'll never buy sony again! I've seen too many wear out early, and was even told by a sony engineer that 2yrs is the average life of a sony pro chip. Hopefully no longer the case.
Disco Robo
04-14-2007, 12:49 AM
Sure, 2 years if you never turn it off, or about 15 years@20hrs a week, sounds right to me.
ripupthehwy
04-14-2007, 02:12 PM
Ok believe what you want. Sony people defend them til the end. I'm telling you what I encountered. One facility had 3 dxc 30's less than 2yrs old and two of them had bad pixels (one had 2 bad) I owned a DSR 300 that developed a bad pixel exactly 2 yrs into its used. None of these cam's were on constantly. Mine probably got used 8-10 yrs a week max.
never mind, it's your money
ripupthehwy