How do we get Panasonic to make a drive for P2 for Windows VISTA

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

I have gone out and bought a laptop in Australia, currently you cant buy any WIN XP puters anymore as all computer sales here have gone Windows Vista....

I also only days ago came back from the united states and all of you guys are going if not have gone to windows vista also.....

Our HVX cameras P2 drivers only work on XP on a PC..... How do we get a driver or get Panasonic to make one so we can now use our cameras to transfer P2 MXF files with newer technology?????

It would also be great if Raylight would also convert to Vista and also P2 Genie


Michael Freudenberg

[THoff]

I have no personal experience with Vista and the P2 drivers, but there are others in this forum who have successfully installed the drivers on Vista.

Have you actually tried this and failed, or are you just posting based on the advice you were given elsewhere in the forum to stay away from Vista?

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

I have tried and failed loading the driver for the P2 card on vista hwever Vista does reconise the P2 from the USB as a drive allowing you to open the driver and collect the Video MXF file. Problem is this method doesnt have sound attched.

P2 viewer works on Vista so Ill see if I can get the MXF files from the camera that way.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

Ok I have discovered that P2 Genie version 1.1 works on vista, but what doesnt is when I put my P2 card into the internal card reader on my laptop. I think this is a driver problem, works off the camera in USB but not P2 card into laptop///

Anyone got that working?

[dregenthal]

Michael- Perhaps a bit off topic but I have to ask . . . what NLE works with Vista?

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

Hi dregenthal,

I use Premiere pro 2 but havent loaded it onto the laptop.
I'll try that shortly and let you know.

Cheers

Mike

[taormina]

vegas works with vista.

[William_Robinette]

ehh, Vegas depends.

I was getting 3fps out of Vegas on Vista (with DV mind you). So your mileage may vary.

[THoff]

People have been able to get Edius 4 Broadcast to work under Vista, but it isn't a supported platform.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

Good question,

I use Adobe products and I use Adobes Premiere pro 2 so ill give that a go on vista.

mike

[mvb]

Raylight and Vegas 7.0d work on Vista with good results, several users have reported that to me.

[kyle.presley]

I think Mac is Panasonic's biggest problem right now.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

Ok premiere pro 2 works fine on Vista,

Still I am having problems with Vista reconising my P2 card threw the PCMCIA port. I can't as of yet get vista to reconise that my P2 card has data on it. it reconises that the P2 card has been inserted, it then asks for P2 drivers to be loaded ( they are already ) When I get the computer to find drivers for P2 PCMCIA slot off disc or net I get a can't find drivers message.....

Im not sure if this is because we need a driver for P2 cards for PCMCIA slots on vista or thats its operator error.....

I can download using the USB cable from the camera onto the laptop but id rather hot swap.... after all thats why the HVX has two P2 ports....

Anyone else got there PCMCIA slot working on a Vista computer laptop/notebook ????

Maybe Barry Green knows a little more about drivers for vista.... I just stumbled across this phrase from a laptop question posted on the forum....


And yes, the Sony SZ has both PCMCIA and ExpressCard slots, so it can read the cards directly. However, you'd want to get one with WinXP as the P2 Windows Vista drivers aren't released yet(!)

They better get a move on...... :)

cheers

[tmnt]

FF, search "P2 viewer problems" and you should find some helpful stuff. I think THoff helped me out once with a similar problem - try disabling your "8-in-1 card reader" or whatever it is you have. My p2 card worked fine after I did that.

Ian

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

I checked the forum all over and THoff was on a forum with Barry Green about glitches when transfering from P2 card to an apple computer.

The drivers for the P2 card inserted into the PCMCIA slot wont work, it wont reconise where the drivers are even though its loaded on. I tried to load up the driver updates for the P2 but they dont work on Vista..... Anyone usings a PCMCIA slot on a vista machine to upload there work???

[Barry_Green]

From what I understand, there just aren't updated drivers for Vista yet. Obviously they know about the issue and will correct it, but haven't released 'em yet.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

I suppose vista is only new but if I was the CEO of a software/ hardware company I would make sure my customers would have all relevent updates within the week of a new major relase of an OS ( as long as there is no problems that is )




I think Mac is Panasonic's biggest problem right now.

I guess its the age old question of choise but tell me..... Mac v Pc... when the edits done ready for dvd or film or what ever product your finnal video render is for is there a diffrence in quality that a mac or pc has over the other?????

[THoff]

It's not an issue of computing platforms (heck, they use identical processors these days), it is about the software that runs on them.

Compressor and Bitvise are very good encoders on the Mac, and Procoder and Cinemacraft are very good encoders on the PC. I don't think there is a single encoder that will always triumph over all others, there are specific situations where each has advantages in either speed or quality (or both), but that will probably never be "out of the box" and involve tweaking of the settings for specific conditions.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

So really at the end of the day Pc v Mac is simply choise of look at software...

I wonder why so many in the movie industry use Mac.... Is it because Apple have a contract with most of these companys to supply computers?

[Jan_Crittenden]

I also only days ago came back from the united states and all of you guys are going if not have gone to windows vista also.....


Hi,

This is more than a bit of an exaggeration. Vista is less than 1% of installed base from the hot lines we have here. Have had 2 requests in 45 days. Can't number the MAC requests, too many, and XP is seems mainstream for right now. I will send along the request.

Best,

Jan

[THoff]

The Mac is popular for many reasons, FCP being one of them.

I think people like the idea of having a single source for their hardware and software, especially when they don't have to make any compromises by doing that.

[TwistedLincoln]

Thought I'd be fair and wait until the thead reached 3 pages before I responded:

Just don't use Vista. Wipe the notebook and install Windows 2000, where you can work with your HVX without the hassles of DRM and Product Activation.

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On a more directly helpful note: if you have a license for Windows 2000 or XP and actually want to use Vista (can't imagine why), you could always try installing the older OS within a virtual machine such as VMWare. Not too speedy for editing, but perfectly fine for offloading. Not sure if VMWare or other such virtual machines will properly work with the Cardbus slots or not. Guess I'll have to try it now...

[tmnt]

I was going to suggest using XP, no way I'd use Vista yet.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

Yeah i could load WINXP Pro but i cant just load an older version onto the computer. id have to while the HDD I beleave then load XP on..... Its just strange as the laptop knows the P2 card has been inserted but it wants P2 drivers installed even though they are already.... I could go back XP but this laptop came with vista and vista is a good OPS so far... i'll just wait for Panasonic to make the driver for the 8 in 1..... i just wish they would hurryyyyyyy UPPPPPPPPP!

[Jan_Crittenden]

I think you might consider going to XP if you want to use the HVX soon.

Best,

Jan

[kyle.presley]

I suppose vista is only new but if I was the CEO of a software/ hardware company I would make sure my customers would have all relevent updates within the week of a new major relase of an OS ( as long as there is no problems that is )





I guess its the age old question of choise but tell me..... Mac v Pc... when the edits done ready for dvd or film or what ever product your finnal video render is for is there a diffrence in quality that a mac or pc has over the other?????
It's not a Mac VS. PC issue; it's the number of HVX users on the Mac that are virtually unsupported by Panasonic. I remember Barry saying 95% of HVX users in his workshops are on The Mac. That means the remaining 5% use Windows and even fewer are on Vista. That's why I said Mac support is Panasonic's biggest problem right now, which is really an understatement to say the least.

[JasonE]

That's why I said Mac support is Panasonic's biggest problem right now, which is really an understatement to say the least.What problem? The FCP has a slick P2 import and there are several other Mac apps for viewing/offloading, etc. Heck, there's even a FREE Mac offloader (HD Log demo).

[tmnt]

FF, try this link, it's about running XP within Vista. Let us know if it works.

http://lifehacker.com/software/windows/geek-to-live--run-windows-xp-inside-vista-with-virtual-pc-238071.php

[THoff]

JasonE, those are all non-Panasonic products. People have been clamoring for a simple P2 Viewer-like application for the Mac for a long time, as well as native Mac tools for formatting/diagnosing/updating P2 cards -- right now that needs to be done on a PC laptop with a PCMCIA/PCCard slot.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

It's not a Mac VS. PC issue; it's the number of HVX users on the Mac that are virtually unsupported by Panasonic. I remember Barry saying 95% of HVX users in his workshops are on The Mac. That means the remaining 5% use Windows and even fewer are on Vista. That's why I said Mac support is Panasonic's biggest problem right now, which is really an understatement to say the least.

I agree since the users who own a HVX is 95% that is a big issue.


FF, try this link, it's about running XP within Vista. Let us know if it works.

Ive had a look at there site and looked around the web and done a few google searches into this but virtual PC is that.... it works on software however it wont use hardware like USB 8 and 1 and so on..... It was a good idea but doesnt look like its worth trying something others have failed at.

[P2metoo]

Just because Bill gates decided to updates his system every software company has to change there priority and provides driver to there new OS. I think this is like colleting extortion money. Lets create some work ? How? Lets change OS and that will pay every programer to create new driver.

This is a problem with all OS. I feel bad for manufaturer because they get blame for not fast enough.

I would not install Vista for another year before all the bugs and software support become available.

[JasonE]

JasonE, those are all non-Panasonic products. People have been clamoring for a simple P2 Viewer-like application for the Mac for a long time, as well as native Mac tools for formatting/diagnosing/updating P2 cards -- right now that needs to be done on a PC laptop with a PCMCIA/PCCard slot.I really don't care who makes the software, in fact, personally I'd rather it be a software company. Hardware manufacturers like Panasonic and Sony et al are notorious for making great equipment and lousy software. FCP isn't free, why should other tools be free?

And for that matter, free is certainly a relative term. Instead of raising the cost of the camera to cover software included for "free", I'd rather have the choice of whom to buy it from and select by features, performance and need. Not include something I may not want or use that I'm inadvertantly paying for.

[Cynic821]

Just because Bill gates decided to updates his system every software company has to change there priority and provides driver to there new OS. I think this is like colleting extortion money. Lets create some work ? How? Lets change OS and that will pay every programer to create new driver.

This is a problem with all OS. I feel bad for manufaturer because they get blame for not fast enough.

I would not install Vista for another year before all the bugs and software support become available.

I wear the hat of software development supervisor along with many others , and let me tell you its a big concern of ours. But you havent dealt with MS, they are worse than customers when trying to get a logo on your box. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! Its crazy is all i can say. Going through two 3rd party companies , which is the official way to get certified from a phone conference with MS.

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

Just because Bill gates decided to updates his system every software company has to change there priority and provides driver to there new OS. I think this is like colleting extortion money. Lets create some work ? How? Lets change OS and that will pay every programer to create new driver.


Here Here.

ADOBE is another one who does this every years almost. They add like 2 new plugins, change the screen color then ask for more pennies.... I bought adobe after effects 7 pro and found that half my old plugins from version 6.5 9 the one before 7 ) dont work!.... guess what now some of the plugin companys want more money for the version update.... some dont...

[taormina]

I seriously need vista compatibility now as well. I've purchased two computers for the HVX - one to edit with, and a notebook to dump data into. Both have vista. Get on it, Panasonic. It can't be that hard.

Nest time I see Hiro Matsushita I'll mention it to him. He lives about 10 minutes away from him and I run into him from time to time. Maybe that way we'll see some results.

[dvxnerd]

I also badly need Vista support. Please release a Vista driver as quickly as possible.

Adam

[FREUDENBERG_FILMS]

Ok still no Vista driver update for the P2 8 in 1......

Will there ever be one :0(

[taormina]

It's been up for a couple days...check it out

[tlorenzo]

Haven't tried it, but here it is: https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/cs/csregistp2m/soft/pcdriver_winvista.zip

[kenth32]

I just bought a Toshiba G45 and I cannot get the PCMCIA P2 Drivers to work on it. I've disabled the built in card reader, I've used the driver linked in this thread and the most recent driver that says it is compatible with 32Bit Vista.

Everytime I put the P2 card in the PCMCIA slot it causes the computer to crash!

I did get the usb driver installed with not problem but that does not help when I am filming and need to offload cards on the fly.

I need help, does anyone have any other suggestions?

Kent

[ulisses]

I use my HP notebook with vista and duel adapter without problems... the only software I couldn't install is P2CMS