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Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-13-2007, 12:16 PM
http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/claw.jpg


Robin the Spy


Something fowl is afoot!


A comedy coming soon to a SpyFest near you...



Written by: John LaBonney


Music by: Leandro Gardini



a More Cowbell Pictures Production

















...

Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-13-2007, 12:17 PM
Cast Photos

Robin: Played by Kim Vincent

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/Robin.jpg



Eagle: Played by Ian Quick

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/Eagle.jpg



FLAMINGO: Played by Linda Wong

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/linda.jpg

Ted Arabian
03-13-2007, 12:18 PM
haha! This looks like fun!

Good luck to you.

-Ted

Edgen
03-13-2007, 02:22 PM
ha!! Comedy of dead robins. AWesome! Looking forward to your film Kyser.

/j

Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-13-2007, 06:02 PM
The weapons of Robin, master Spy!



http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/tools_of_the_trade1.jpg



Enemies beware! In normal hands these weapons are deadly, in Robin's hands... they are downright dangerous! Beware friend and foe!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-13-2007, 06:04 PM
Thanks Ted, thanks Justin!

It should be fun to make...

Cheers,

Mike

mobiledeli
03-14-2007, 08:41 PM
i love spy comedies! good luck with this!

ripupthehwy
03-14-2007, 11:34 PM
Very nice kyser. I'm glad someone is taking this not so seriously and doing a comedy! Although the first draft of my script is complete, im still debating on just how much of a comedic element it will have. At least I won't be the only one.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-15-2007, 06:29 AM
Very nice kyser. I'm glad someone is taking this not so seriously and doing a comedy!
What does that mean? I plan on winning with this baby! :happy:


Just kidding... I've seen some of the movies from Dramafest. :Drogar-Shock(DBG):

The script is pretty good, I just hope we can pull it off. Comedies can be tough...

We're going to have fun though!

Thanks for the comments,

Mike

Brandon Rice
03-15-2007, 06:36 AM
Looking forward to this one... looks unique.

Jay Rodriguez
03-15-2007, 06:39 AM
I really wanted ths script! Good luck dude, I'll be rootin' for ya.

John LaBonney
03-15-2007, 03:05 PM
Jay:

Thanks for your kind words about the script; I had a lot of fun writing it. I'm looking forward to your film as well!

We're hoping for great things from Robin the Spy!



John

RebeccaD
03-15-2007, 03:13 PM
This looks interesting. I am excited to see the outcome on this one. I do love a good comedy.

Special Agent Robin
03-15-2007, 07:24 PM
Date: March 15, 2007

We lost Bluebird and Woodpecker earlier this week. Talk about killing two birds with one stone! Some kind of set up or something... double bluff, or blind, or two to the head... I can't remember.

Word through the agency is spreading fast, I may get the call anytime now. I was just getting into my new Nancy Drew novel... sigh. Oh well.

Still, it's about time! We haven't had an on site accident around here in 2 weeks. Sure, I've been off active duty and glued to this desk for the last month... but... that letter opener was sharper than usual and it just totally slipped out of my hand!

I don't know what Eagle was so mad about anyway, it was just a flesh wound. Whatever, it wasn't my fault...

I'll just be happy to get my gear back. I mean, how can you be a Spy without your secret decoder ring? Seriously, do you know how long it took me to get that!? I haven't been able to read any of my emails without it!

Oops... someones coming...

Robin out!

RebeccaD
03-15-2007, 07:41 PM
Nicely done..... can't wait guys.

jeremytuttle
03-15-2007, 08:09 PM
I really wanted ths script! Good luck dude, I'll be rootin' for ya.

I'll second that. The first couple of pages had me cracking up.

Good luck with the project. It will be great to see this one come together.

Great journal entry by the way.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-15-2007, 09:47 PM
Thanks guys, and gal. :)

The script is pretty funny, I only hope that we can do it justice.
If only I can keep Robin in his cage...

Cheers,

Mike

Special Agent Robin
03-16-2007, 09:33 PM
Huge news!! I've come across some extremely classified documents! Agents have died to get a look at this thing... literally.

Luckily, I've been on trash duty this past year and I came across this copy, just a mock up of some blueprints... but I'll take any scraps I can get. I figured it couldn't hurt to post this on my favourite forum since we all took the Nancy Drew secret pact of silence when we signed up.

If any of you sleuths can help me figure out what this is then I'll be much obliged. It looks really cool! I wish they would let me in on this one...

If they knew how much I've been learning from these books I'm sure they would change their mind.

Well, I better fly...

Robin out!

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/TOP_SECRET.jpg

Ted Arabian
03-17-2007, 07:07 AM
haha!!! This is awesome!!! Great, great, great idea! I love it!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-19-2007, 12:10 PM
Thanks, Ted.

Our casting call went out today and we are getting a great response. I'll be posting pictures once the cast is finalized.

Cheers,

Mike

bosindy
03-26-2007, 12:50 PM
this looks like a riot, can't wait.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
03-27-2007, 07:14 AM
Thanks!
I'm hoping to have the auditions straightened away by the end of next week. I'll post cast photos when I get them.

Cheers,

Mike

Keystoned
03-27-2007, 07:58 AM
Is it the Fisher Price 35mm adapter?


Huge news!! I've come across some extremely classified documents! Agents have died to get a look at this thing... literally.

Luckily, I've been on trash duty this past year and I came across this copy, just a mock up of some blueprints... but I'll take any scraps I can get. I figured it couldn't hurt to post this on my favourite forum since we all took the Nancy Drew secret pact of silence when we signed up.

If any of you sleuths can help me figure out what this is then I'll be much obliged. It looks really cool! I wish they would let me in on this one...

If they knew how much I've been learning from these books I'm sure they would change their mind.

Well, I better fly...

Robin out!

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/TOP_SECRET.jpg

Special Agent Robin
03-28-2007, 10:01 AM
Is it the Fisher Price 35mm adapter?Do you really think that they could be targeting this thing towards children!??

My God man!

The horror!!

I'll run this idea by Eagle and see what he has to say.

Thanks, Nancy Drew Super Sleuth!

Robin out!

leogardini
04-04-2007, 07:08 AM
Any news???Im looking forward to score this movie :)!!!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
04-05-2007, 12:37 PM
Any news???Im looking forward to score this movie :)!!!Awesome! Well, we are still working at the audition stage....

Should be through that soon.

PS - Any suggestions from anyone on where to hold auditions? I was thinking of renting a couple of rooms at a community centre.

Mike

Larry Rutledge
04-05-2007, 03:16 PM
I used a meeting room at a local library, didn't cost me a dime.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
04-09-2007, 09:42 PM
That's a great idea! I'll look into that right away...


Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
04-20-2007, 12:04 PM
The library idea worked out, thanks.
We're holding the auditions this week. I'll post some pictures when we have the cast set.

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
04-27-2007, 01:23 PM
I have updated post #2 with some cast PHOTOS (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=891204&postcount=2).

More to come soon...

Mike

kurtmo
04-30-2007, 09:05 PM
Hope things are coming along on this piece. I'm looking forwad to see how it turns out.

RebeccaD
05-01-2007, 02:36 PM
Congrats on your auditions going well. I am looking forward to seeing how everything turns out.

Ted Arabian
05-01-2007, 03:27 PM
Hi Mike, glad to hear your casting went well. Looking forward to more news from the nest!

Charli
05-01-2007, 03:50 PM
Nice on the casting.

Michael_Petro
05-01-2007, 08:50 PM
good job on getting the cast together its tough I know

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-09-2007, 09:22 AM
Updated Cast Photos (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=891204&postcount=2)

We start filming this weekend, wish me luck! :)

Mike

John LaBonney
05-09-2007, 12:07 PM
Mike:

Good luck! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-13-2007, 01:29 PM
Film grabs from yesterday's shoot.

No CC added, pure raw footage grabs.

John, we changed the first location area to an old church. The script/dialogue remains unchanged otherwise.

We had a lot of fun yesterday!

Cheers,

Mike


Here's our first look at Eagle...

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/eagle.jpg



Flamingo....

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/flamingo.jpg



And more of Eagle... waiting patiently. :)

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/waiting.jpg

John LaBonney
05-13-2007, 04:10 PM
Church looks like a cool backdrop. I know you had some difficulty with locations. I'm looking forward to seeing the final product very much!

Ted Arabian
05-13-2007, 06:50 PM
Nice location! I love the framing of the first grab!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-15-2007, 01:23 PM
Here is the original untouched footage...

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/eagle.jpg




Here is what I have done with it...


http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/eagleccsmall.jpg

I prefer the second one. What do you guys think?
Opinions needed!

Thanks,

Mike

Matt Sconce
05-15-2007, 01:43 PM
I like the second one! I like the desaturation :-)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-16-2007, 12:21 PM
Thanks!

Any other opinions?

Larry Rutledge
05-16-2007, 12:45 PM
I have always been a fan of the desaturated and bleach bypass looks. Looks good to me, though I wonder how it would look with more contrast (more crushing of the blacks, I think is how they say it :) ) .... either way, it looks cool to me :thumbsup:

Ted Arabian
05-16-2007, 05:38 PM
I, too, like number two. Definitely, #2 (for me).

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-17-2007, 07:31 AM
Thanks!

I may try crushing the blacks a tad, just to see how it looks.

Cheers,

Mike

StMad
05-17-2007, 04:03 PM
Nice composition, nice grab.

I agree that a bleach bypass look is a winner. Hope you don't mind - I took a liberty...

http://conceptsmith.com.au/Image.jpg

Larry Rutledge
05-17-2007, 04:06 PM
Here, let's put that image in the thread so it's easier to compare


I agree that a bleach bypass look is a winner. Hope you don't mind - I took a liberty...
http://conceptsmith.com.au/Image.jpg

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-17-2007, 05:22 PM
Nice composition, nice grab.

I agree that a bleach bypass look is a winner. Hope you don't mind - I took a liberty...

http://conceptsmith.com.au/Image.jpg

Nice look! So how did you do it? What settings did you change?

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-17-2007, 09:12 PM
How does this look? Is there enough contrast (sharp focus vs soft focus) between the two subjects?
No CC or wash done as of yet.

Let me know what you think.

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/eagle_and_flamingo.jpg

Thanks,

Mike

StMad
05-17-2007, 09:51 PM
I lifted the top end end of the colour curve, desaturated to 70% and moved contrast to .19 in Vegas. (1st example)

There's at least a couple of ways to achieve these results - instead of using constrast you can also use levels to crush the lowest end of the blacks, and further lift the highlights with the curve. Or you can pull the bottom end of the curve down to make it something like an "S", (while pulling the high end up further) (2nd example).

I always use a mix of the tools in the doc, and usually only sharpen if using a 35mm adapter.


www.conceptsmith.com.au/Doc1.doc


The more I look at that frame the more I likey. Depth lines on the right hand 1/3 and your subject pretty well framed on the left. :beer:

Do you have any more frames to share?

StMad
05-17-2007, 09:51 PM
Haha, your clairvoyant!

StMad
05-17-2007, 10:16 PM
2nd grab...

My 2c are worth just that - but the separation by focus seems to do the job. On the flipside, I wonder about your vertical lines in the frame (wall join, frame) - could be the result of not being level and/or tilting upwards.

I also wonder about having the subject occupy the lower part of the frame - it makes him seem weak, but that may be your intention.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-18-2007, 09:19 AM
The frame was level, it just looks odd from the angle that I took the shot from.

As for the "weak" subject, I actually thought that having her out of focus would make his presence stronger on screen. That and the fact that he does all the talking. ;)

Thanks for all the advice! I really do appreciate.
I'll take all this in for my next shoot!

Thanks,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-18-2007, 10:44 AM
How does this look? Is there enough contrast (sharp focus vs soft focus) between the two subjects?
No CC or wash done as of yet.

Let me know what you think.

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/eagle_and_flamingo.jpg

Thanks,

Mike



Here's the new CC'd pic...


http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/cc.jpg

I took your advice and played with Color Curves.
Now that I look at them both side by side... I could probably "bleach" it a tad more.

What do you guys think?

Mike

StMad
05-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Looks good to me. I went a little more extreme, but of course it all comes down to personal preference. The downside of my effort is that it suffers from losing detail in the blacks.

edit - looked back at my settings and remembered that I sharpened this pretty heavily.

http://www.conceptsmith.com.au/Imagea.jpg

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-31-2007, 04:36 PM
Funny enough, that scene above didn't make the cut. Just ran out of room.

I'm compressing now... at 25% and going. I hope the final file is <50MB.

Looking good though....

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
05-31-2007, 06:48 PM
http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/Robin.jpg

Robin the Spy debuts! ;)

Just finished uploading it to Spyfest.

Hope some of you enjoy it. I had to overcome a lot of hardships in order to get this finished. I'm sure most of us with entries have...

I also want to thank everyone involved, especially John LaBonney (writer) and Leandro Gardini (composer).

As well as the entire cast and crew, as small as it was.

Cheers,

Mike

Kyle Stebbins
06-01-2007, 11:18 AM
im late on this one, however, my suggestion for your grabs would be to make them pop off the screen a little more. your first cc job that you posted looked very very flat. -- up the contrast a little, crush the blacks, you will have nice sharp looking images. i'll assume you already did this since you've uploaded already.

congrats!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-01-2007, 03:39 PM
I altered things a little further since my first CC'd grab.

Maybe not as much as StMad suggested.... but more than my last grab shows.

Thanks for the advice!

Mike

StMad
06-01-2007, 04:36 PM
Good luck...I'm looking forward to seeing this one :beer:

Norm Sanders
06-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Glad you made it, and looking forward to seeing your film ... I'm especially looking forward to hearing Leo's score! Wonder how many others he scored this time too?

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-03-2007, 06:47 PM
Thanks, Norm. Leo did a great job. He didn't have a lot of time but he definitely made the most of it.

I have a lot to learn and this project was a great learning experience.
My first film with real actors. :)

All my previous films were filmed with just a few friends and a couple of hours to kill. I don't expect to run with the top dogs, but I'm happy to see improvements from film to film.

Mike

Norm Sanders
06-03-2007, 06:50 PM
Thanks, Norm. Leo did a great job. He didn't have a lot of time but he definitely made the most of it.

That guy's got serious chops! Another composer I want to work with eventually.


I don't expect to run with the top dogs, but I'm happy to see improvements from film to film.

Mike

And that, my friend, is what it's all about. Improving your craft.

Keystoned
06-03-2007, 11:35 PM
Nice to see all the comedies in SpyFest.
Looking forward to yours :beer:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-04-2007, 08:40 AM
Thanks, it's a charming little comedy.

We had a lot of fun making it. I'll have to do up a gag reel at some point...

Mike

leogardini
06-04-2007, 08:44 AM
That guy's got serious chops! Another composer I want to work with eventually. Hey Norm, thanks for remember my works...besides Robin the Spy I scored No Midle Ground by George, but this second one I had even less time...only one day and some hours:huh:...Ive made my best in both having a very limited time and there will be updates later after fest as i have the time!!!
Robin the Spy was a challenge because I needed to learn how to compose Jazz in a few days...I had never composed Jazz before, so, I looked for material, listened to some music and called a friend to come to my studio to give me some tips...the funny thing is that when he first heard whant I had already composed he asked me, "why did you call me???You are going great", I couldn believe he was serious and I thank him for the valuable jazz tips:)!!!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-04-2007, 08:48 AM
Leo, composed exactly the kind of music that I had in mind, he must be a mind reader!

Leo, when you finish the composition I would love to use it in the slightly longer edit. You did such a great job with the time that you had.

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-04-2007, 11:07 AM
You can now view Robin the Spy (http://www.dvxfest.com/spyfest/loader.php?id=19456)

Hope you enjoy it.

Mike

Michael_Petro
06-04-2007, 01:51 PM
kill a guy at 2- check
watch - check
deck of cards - Check
get SOME MILK bwahahahhaa.

briefcase huh???? hmmm.....

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-04-2007, 03:10 PM
The script was written by John LaBonney, he posted a few scripts for Spyfest and they were snatched up quickly.

The milk bit was an improve.

There was a problem with the download but I've read that it has been resolved.

Cheers,

Mike

leogardini
06-04-2007, 06:46 PM
Ive just saw the Spy-fest edition...this is a really nice movie and I enjoyed making it a lot...the music got a bit out of sinc with this new edition but that Ok...for all of you that are seing this version I must say, wait for the full version of it:)!!!

Mark Dog
06-04-2007, 08:07 PM
isee this film for spyfest was shot with HV20 im very intrested in this thinking of getting an HV20 what settings shutter ETC did you use on the HV20 keyser and did you use 24p or 60i ???????????? and if you did use 24p did yo uuse the cinemamode also ?????????? and if 24p how did yo udo the pull down ???????? and what program, also what program did you edit onand do you CC ??????? i know it alot question :)

peace n luv

Mark Dog

Huy Vu
06-04-2007, 09:10 PM
It's not a bad film overall although I think you should have done color correction to give it a more cinnematic look. The stock visual is rather flat. Try crushing the blacks and give it more of a color tint, I think it'll look much better.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-04-2007, 09:23 PM
It's not a bad film overall although I think you should have done color correction to give it a more cinnematic look. The stock visual is rather flat. Try crushing the blacks and give it more of a color tint, I think it'll look much better.I did do CC, it's not stock footage. I just didn't go as far as some may have liked I guess. :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-04-2007, 09:28 PM
Ive just saw the Spy-fest edition...this is a really nice movie and I enjoyed making it a lot...the music got a bit out of sinc with this new edition but that Ok...for all of you that are seing this version I must say, wait for the full version of it:)!!!Sorry about that Leo, the editing changed a bit since the office scene had to be cut out.

If you want to complete the track for the finished edit I will be more than happy to send you a copy when it is finished.

Thanks again.

Cheers,


BTW, Keep the comments coming! I'm here to learn.

Mike

chris f
06-04-2007, 09:55 PM
Standard Disclaimer: I've yet to see a bad film so far in this fest. Congratulations to every film maker, everyone did a great job. All my comments and criticisms are meant to be constructive and helpful and in no way am I trying to take anything away from what you accomplished.

Good: Opening scene was very funny, enjoyed your jab at the having to use Robin name rule. Enjoyed the ending. Soundtrack fit the film nicely

Not as Good: The lead actor was maybe a little too over the top. Didn't find him near as funny as the first two actors. The graph overlay was a little distracting to look at when the lady is giving the instructions.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-05-2007, 06:20 AM
Thanks for that! I really appreciate it.

I tried to go for a certain look with the female gadget agent and didn't really pull it off. I'm going to fix that in my next edit.

Thanks again!

Mike

Mark Dog
06-05-2007, 07:39 AM
you never answred my questions keyeser , isee this film for spyfest was shot with HV20 im very intrested in this thinking of getting an HV20 what settings shutter ETC did you use on the HV20 keyser and did you use 24p or 60i ???????????? and if you did use 24p did yo uuse the cinemamode also ?????????? and if 24p how did yo udo the pull down ???????? and what program, also what program did you edit onand do you CC ??????? i know it alot question :)

peace n luv

Mark Dog

Dustin R. Rogan
06-05-2007, 08:39 AM
thought that it was gonna be goofy, which it was...but thought it was the Look i'm trying to be goofy...(make sense?) but it didn't turned out to be great goofy! almost Mr. Bean-ish (aka Johnny English)


ps this is my dumb american comment for the year...but the street signs look funny...

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-05-2007, 09:46 AM
you never answred my questions keyeser , isee this film for spyfest was shot with HV20 im very intrested in this thinking of getting an HV20 what settings shutter ETC did you use on the HV20 keyser and did you use 24p or 60i ???????????? and if you did use 24p did yo uuse the cinemamode also ?????????? and if 24p how did yo udo the pull down ???????? and what program, also what program did you edit onand do you CC ??????? i know it alot question :)

peace n luv

Mark Dog

Sorry, I was going to PM you as I didn't want the thread to get off topic, but here goes.

Shot in 24P Cinema mode, made some exposure adjustments while filming. Edited the 60i (wrap) and didn't remove the pulldown for 24P. Ran out of time and didn't really feel the need this time around.

Edited in Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5
CC's in PPro 1.5
Used color curves mostly. I plan on going back and altering the look a little further.

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-05-2007, 09:48 AM
thought that it was gonna be goofy, which it was...but thought it was the Look i'm trying to be goofy...(make sense?) but it didn't turned out to be great goofy! almost Mr. Bean-ish (aka Johnny English)


ps this is my dumb american comment for the year...but the street signs look funny...

Wow! That's quite the compliment. That's actually what I was kind of going for.

As for the street signs, I shot in Canada, eh! ;)

Thanks for the comments!

Keep them coming.

Mike

Ted Arabian
06-05-2007, 10:55 AM
Great entry! Very entertaining.

For the most part, I thought this was fine filmmaking. I felt that the sequence in front of the monitor (with the woman giving instruction) could have had tighter editing and would love to see more reaction shots throughout.

The film is very nicely shot! I think that your eye and camera skills are dead-on! I absolutely love the shot of the Ace of Spades in the grass. Best shot in the film but there are many others in that catagory. Great framing throughout the film.

Comedy was nice and light and came in at perfect timing. I love the opening title sequence! Very clever.

I thought that all of your performers delivered! Nice job.

Overall, a very well-made film! I think you did great and should be very proud of your work!

Great job!

-Ted

Dustin R. Rogan
06-05-2007, 11:02 AM
Wow! That's quite the compliment. That's actually what I was kind of going for.

As for the street signs, I shot in Canada, eh! ;)

Thanks for the comments!

Keep them coming.

Mike

I'm not sure what it is, but I've always loved Canada...never been...many rock bands came from there...Pamela Anderson :-Love(DBG):....and and the phrase about 'boots' (*whats it aboot?*)....

Charli
06-05-2007, 11:38 AM
When I heard the list of agent's names, I just died, that was so funny. Then
when I saw the two agents sitting so close together, omg, that was so funny.
This was a quirky, fun short film. Good job.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-05-2007, 01:34 PM
Charli, thanks for that. We had a lot of fun making this and I didn't want to do something that came off as over the top.

I'm glad that some people are getting the subtleties in the humour. Much appreciated!

Keep the comments coming.

Cheers,

Mike

arielman
06-05-2007, 02:02 PM
Hi Mike

Well for a guy worried about entering , well don't worry no more my friend .

This was great !!! All the actors did a great job . Had a smile on my face the whole time .
The music was also a nice touch.
Worth watching again!!!

What a bummer now I must leave for work ..UUGGGHHH!!!!

Congrats Mike on a great short.
Well done there EH !!!!!!!

Ian

arielman
06-05-2007, 02:05 PM
I'm not sure what it is, but I've always loved Canada...never been...many rock bands came from there...Pamela Anderson :-Love(DBG):....and and the phrase about 'boots' (*whats it aboot?*)....

And not to forget GREAT COLD CANADIAN BEER !!! and the BEAVER ..lmao

Come on up Dustin the invite is on.

Ian

Dustin R. Rogan
06-05-2007, 03:08 PM
And not to forget GREAT COLD CANADIAN BEER !!! and the BEAVER ..lmao

Come on up Dustin the invite is on.

Ian


:beer:WOOT!!! To bad i'm a slave to my job :badputer: or I'd be there on the next flight...for now, Texas is hot...if you like hot and humid anyone is welcome here, shoot a movie and drink a cold one! :violent5:

*i'm having too much fun with the smilies....lol

:Drogar-Evil(DBG):

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Hi Mike

Well for a guy worried about entering , well don't worry no more my friend .

This was great !!! All the actors did a great job . Had a smile on my face the whole time .
The music was also a nice touch.
Worth watching again!!!


Thanks for that! Leo did a great job with the music considering how little time he actually had. I'm hoping he'll finish the score for the revised version.

Thanks again,

Mike

Mark Dog
06-05-2007, 06:42 PM
thanx for the answers keyser , what settings did you use on the HV20 TV mode etc what was your shutter speed ??????????? and how did the HV20 perform for you indoor what was your indoor lighting set up ????????? iknow more questions lol :)

peace n luv

Mark Dog

24Peter
06-05-2007, 10:36 PM
Nice work guys. I like the way you shot it. I may have missed this, but did you use one of the 35mm with your HV20? Or is that the stock lens.

Also - what did you use for follow focus work?

bosindy
06-06-2007, 12:05 AM
I really felt the score added to it. It was absolutely perfect for the material. I really loved the look of the film, especially on the outside shots. I like the opening scene, in the church, goofy funny.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 05:43 AM
thanx for the answers keyser , what settings did you use on the HV20 TV mode etc what was your shutter speed ??????????? and how did the HV20 perform for you indoor what was your indoor lighting set up ????????? iknow more questions lol :)

peace n luv

Mark Dog

I only used the TV mode for one shot. 1/500
It preformed great indoors and out. We used 3 lights (at times) indoors. 1x 500w 2x 250w

Please PM me for anything further.:thumbup:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 05:44 AM
Nice work guys. I like the way you shot it. I may have missed this, but did you use one of the 35mm with your HV20? Or is that the stock lens.

Also - what did you use for follow focus work?

Everything you see is stock footage, no filters either.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 05:48 AM
I really felt the score added to it. It was absolutely perfect for the material. I really loved the look of the film, especially on the outside shots. I like the opening scene, in the church, goofy funny.

Leo, did a great job! I'll have to make sure to give him some more time and a finished project to work with in the future. I'm amazed at what he was able to pull off.

As for the shots, thanks for that! The dolly shot in the church was shot using my homemade dolly. The outside shots are my favourite!

Thanks for stopping by with your thoughts!
I really enjoyed your film and posted my comments in your thread early on.

Cheers,

Mike

Alex Jeffery
06-06-2007, 08:43 AM
I really liked this one. It was clever and you had some great shots. One that stands out in my mind is the ace of spades in the grass. Also Robin looks like Clark Kent. I really liked the bit with the gadget agent projected on the screen. How did you do that? The reflections on the table were awesome!

Awesome work.

insanityfw
06-06-2007, 10:44 AM
Kyser, I think your film sucked. (Just kidding. see your last post on Norms thread). I do agree with what you're saying about people being overly kind. I think that some people go overboard with how they give their criticism, so because of the community feel, others seem to pull back a bit.

Actually, I really look forward to seeing what you've done, but it keeps binding up for me on playback and the audio keeps cutting out. I don't know what's going on, but I'm going to keep trying.

I wonder if it has anything to do with how HDV is compressed?

Anyway, I'll keep trying because the bits that I've seen look really good (and I mean that) and I want to see how the HV20 came out.

Best,

Jason

PS-The opening plays for me, so how in the world without an adapter did you pull of that selective/rack focus in the church scene? Such a tiny little focus wheel. :)

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 10:46 AM
I'll report the problem in the Sticky!
It should play fine.

Thanks,

Mike

insanityfw
06-06-2007, 11:52 AM
Ok, I re-downloaded and now it's playing back fine.

I really liked to concept and most of the style used to shoot with, but since you're a fan of real criticism...I'll give you my opinions.

1. Acting was pretty off. It effected the pacing a bit too much. I kept wanting a few frames shaved off some of the shots, but the pacing of dialogue wouldn't allow it.
2. Locations were nice and added production value.
3. The sound was really uneven and again messed with the pacing for me.
4. I didn't get the ending, but I think it was a sound level issue and a visual disconnect. I think that he accidentally completed his mission by shooting the person off-screen????
5. Most of the shots were really well done. One, I didn't like...The low-angle shot on Robyn in the briefing room gave the feeling of him having some kind of strength, when it should have shown him as inept (now, I'm nitpicking)
6. Main actor was goofy in the right way. The first actor on the piece was the strongest, but most felt like they were delivering lines rather than becoming their characters.

All in all, I guess that's it. I still think it was fun and well done, but with some pacing changes and a few more insert shots you could have really kicked this one up a couple of notches.

Best,

Jason

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 12:12 PM
Ok, I re-downloaded and now it's playing back fine.

I really liked to concept and most of the style used to shoot with, but since you're a fan of real criticism...I'll give you my opinions.

1. Acting was pretty off. It effected the pacing a bit too much. I kept wanting a few frames shaved off some of the shots, but the pacing of dialogue wouldn't allow it.
2. Locations were nice and added production value.
3. The sound was really uneven and again messed with the pacing for me.
4. I didn't get the ending, but I think it was a sound level issue and a visual disconnect. I think that he accidentally completed his mission by shooting the person off-screen????
5. Most of the shots were really well done. One, I didn't like...The low-angle shot on Robyn in the briefing room gave the feeling of him having some kind of strength, when it should have shown him as inept (now, I'm nitpicking)
6. Main actor was goofy in the right way. The first actor on the piece was the strongest, but most felt like they were delivering lines rather than becoming their characters.

All in all, I guess that's it. I still think it was fun and well done, but with some pacing changes and a few more insert shots you could have really kicked this one up a couple of notches.

Best,

Jason

Awesome! I actually really appreciate this, I'll address each point.

1. I thought the majority of the acting was decent but I agree that the pacing is off in spots.

2. Thanks!

3. Help me with this one, are you referring to the music? Or sound overall. I agree that I do need to work on my sound/effects.

4. He shot a car off screen and it crashed.... quite by accident. Hence the .."Oh dear!" :)

5. Interesting... I agree that some of that scene is the weakest of the three. Mostly my fault.

6. Thanks! It was my first time directing actors, not friends. I think I did a bit more watching instead of directing. I still think they did a pretty good job though. Eagle (Ian Quick) was quite good on his own and it shows.



All in all, I guess that's it. I still think it was fun and well done, but with some pacing changes and a few more insert shots you could have really kicked this one up a couple of notches.

Best,

Jason
Thanks for that! There will be some scene changes, a few location inserts, and a full score in the final edit.


Thanks again! I really do appreciate this.


Mike

insanityfw
06-06-2007, 01:20 PM
Hey Mike if that was your first time working with actors, then you're well on your way in the right direction. Hollywood may not care about first time, tenth time, etc., but we're not Hollywood, so my hats off to you.

Also, comedy is really hard. To pull it off as well as you did is a really good sign.

My comment about the sound is really that a lot of the sound wasn't very dynamic or even throughout scene transitions. The sound effects needed to be cleaner and more realistic to help tell what was going on. They felt fairly canned and flat and the volume levels weren't real consistent.

For my Horrorfest short that never made the fest i asked Conrad Johnson, from this site, to do a sound mix and it helped out a whole lot. It took the film and made it more 3 dimensional.

Again, this all might be minor, but holistically it all can make projects better.

Thanks for taking the feedback well.

Best,

Jason

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 01:37 PM
Awesome feedback! Really helpful.

I would love to run into someone who could work on the sound. Maybe next time If I can get the edit finished ahead of time I can ask around here to see if someone can help me out.

Great advice!

Cheers,

Mike

Cheers,

Mike

insanityfw
06-06-2007, 01:44 PM
Awesome feedback! Really helpful.

I would love to run into someone who could work on the sound. Maybe next time If I can get the edit finished ahead of time I can ask around here to see if someone can help me out.

Great advice!

Cheers,

Mike

Cheers,

Mike

You will definitely find MANY gifted people that can help out. That's the amazing thing about this forum over so many others out on the big-bad web.

Best of luck,

J.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 05:01 PM
I really liked this one. It was clever and you had some great shots. One that stands out in my mind is the ace of spades in the grass. Also Robin looks like Clark Kent. I really liked the bit with the gadget agent projected on the screen. How did you do that? The reflections on the table were awesome!

Awesome work.

Thanks! The shot of the ace of spades is one of my favourites. I also tried my best with the reflection in the glass as well, glad you liked it. I was hoping someone would.

I shot the scene with the female agent separately and then played it back in my Home Theatre. Robin acted along with it while it played back.

Glad you liked the effect.

I really need to re-work that scene though.

Mike

John LaBonney
06-06-2007, 05:13 PM
Mike,

What can I say? Great job! It's exciting to watch a script you've written come to life. Thanks for working so hard to make it happen.

And don't forget to pick up some milk.

John

aravance
06-06-2007, 06:10 PM
Hey man, good short.
It was very entertaining and light-hearted.

And I think you were one of the few to use a different camera so big thumbs up for that!

I thought some of the acting could've been a little better.
In the opening scene, it just seemed like you were working with non-actors and felt pretty noticeable. I didn't have a problem with the guy who played Robin though.

And of course, there were some audio issues, but for handling it yourself it was really good. Especially in the church scene where you cut between them talking on the headsets. I was really impressed with the audio in that scene.

For me, the audio where that woman shows all those gadgets to Robin had too much reverb where you couldn't really hear her very well.

But kudos on the film!

Hope to see more from you in future fests!

P.S. - Make friends with audio people. Lots of friends. I am very fortunate to have audio engineers as friends who are really into sound design and sound is such a crucial component. Without them, I'd be nothing.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-06-2007, 09:12 PM
Mike,

What can I say? Great job! It's exciting to watch a script you've written come to life. Thanks for working so hard to make it happen.

And don't forget to pick up some milk.

John

Thanks, John!

Hopefully the final draft will improve on things even more.

Cheers,

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-07-2007, 08:28 AM
Hey man, good short.
It was very entertaining and light-hearted.

And I think you were one of the few to use a different camera so big thumbs up for that!

I thought some of the acting could've been a little better.
In the opening scene, it just seemed like you were working with non-actors and felt pretty noticeable. I didn't have a problem with the guy who played Robin though.

And of course, there were some audio issues, but for handling it yourself it was really good. Especially in the church scene where you cut between them talking on the headsets. I was really impressed with the audio in that scene.

For me, the audio where that woman shows all those gadgets to Robin had too much reverb where you couldn't really hear her very well.

But kudos on the film!

Hope to see more from you in future fests!

P.S. - Make friends with audio people. Lots of friends. I am very fortunate to have audio engineers as friends who are really into sound design and sound is such a crucial component. Without them, I'd be nothing.

Imprint is one of my favourites in this Fest.

I really appreciate the fact that you took the time to review my film.
I agree that the audio has issues and I hope to correct them in the final edit.

I'm hoping that as time goes by I will start to make some connections and improve an all fronts. I think I tried to do too much entirely by myself.

Thanks for the great advice.

Cheers,

Mike

arielman
06-07-2007, 11:54 AM
I tried to do too much entirely by myself.

I think most of us are guilty of that Mike especially me .
It would be nice to have a sound guy , lighting and costume peoplebut alas it is us in the end .lol
Glad to see many if not all are enjoying your first entry .
Ian

cinealma
06-07-2007, 12:00 PM
Good job. I don't know if "charming" is a guy's word, but that's what it was. I really like the photography and the composition of the shots. I like the acting for the most part and I thought it was paced well. I hate to be nitpicking, but that's the only thing I can be with a film I feel is pretty solid, so here goes:

1. The woman agent in the church came off more like an office assitant than an agent, but I attribute that to the acting and not the script.

2. If you've got nothing better to do, cut out the whole scene with the gadget instructions. Hey, it's spy gear. I think we're all intelligent enough to know that those cards or that watch does SOMETHING. Cut directly from "oh no, not Agent Robin" dialogue to a shot of him in his nerdy glasses at the "job". You could add some voiceover or something to quickly explain what it is he is supposed to do. I think it would play great, even if it's only 3 or 4 minutes in length when done.


That's all I've got. Great job. One of my favorites of the fest.

Thanks for screening.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-07-2007, 12:39 PM
Good job. I don't know if "charming" is a guy's word, but that's what it was. I really like the photography and the composition of the shots. I like the acting for the most part and I thought it was paced well. I hate to be nitpicking, but that's the only thing I can be with a film I feel is pretty solid, so here goes:

1. The woman agent in the church came off more like an office assitant than an agent, but I attribute that to the acting and not the script.

2. If you've got nothing better to do, cut out the whole scene with the gadget instructions. Hey, it's spy gear. I think we're all intelligent enough to know that those cards or that watch does SOMETHING. Cut directly from "oh no, not Agent Robin" dialogue to a shot of him in his nerdy glasses at the "job". You could add some voiceover or something to quickly explain what it is he is supposed to do. I think it would play great, even if it's only 3 or 4 minutes in length when done.


That's all I've got. Great job. One of my favorites of the fest.

Thanks for screening.

Thanks for your thoughts!

1. I blame myself, I really didn't direct her as much as I should have. I should have had her do that scene differently.

2. You know what! I may just try that. That scene is the weak point of the entire thing and it just doesn't work as is. I also have an office scene that is actually pretty good. Robin returns the briefcase to Eagle and hilarity ensues.

I really thought that taking out the scene where he gets the cards & watch might confuse people. Maybe having a slight voice over might clear that up.


One of my favorites of the fest.
Wow! I don't know what to say...
:dankk2:

Mike

cinealma
06-07-2007, 12:57 PM
2. You know what! I may just try that. That scene is the weak point of the entire thing and it just doesn't work as is.


It's just too static. Nothing much going on. And it's really "video-like", if you know what I mean (not that video is bad). I just think it doesn't fit with the rest of the photography.



I also have an office scene that is actually pretty good. Robin returns the briefcase to Eagle and hilarity ensues.


NOW THAT WOULD WORK!

If you decide to recut, let me know. I'd love to see it!

Keystoned
06-07-2007, 03:13 PM
Heheh. This was a lot of fun.

Music was perfect!

DOF was used pretty well.

Still think you could get a more filmic look with the CC.

Funny stuff. Thanks for Sharing it.


:beer:

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-07-2007, 05:43 PM
Heheh. This was a lot of fun.

Music was perfect!

DOF was used pretty well.

Still think you could get a more filmic look with the CC.

Funny stuff. Thanks for Sharing it.


:beer:

Thanks! Any tips on CC'ing in Premiere Pro 1.5?
I'm doing the new edit and could really use the help.
What's the best way to get it more filmic?

Thanks,

Mike

Keystoned
06-07-2007, 06:20 PM
Wish I could answer you on Premiere. I use colorista, G film, and Magic Bullet on FCP.

I can tell you vaguely that you wan an S. Shaped gamma curve.

Also try getting richer blacks without darkening the overall image.
(part of the S gamma curve)

What I will strongly recommend is that you pick up this book:
The DV Rebel's Guide (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0321413644?tag=prolost-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0321413644&adid=0GKSX0H11QH8QWSWK3X5&)

They also have a forum here
http://rebelsguide.com/forum/index.php

If you have Premiere you might look into getting After Effects for top notch CC. You can get version 6.5 for cheap online. But the color grading scripts that come on the DVD with the book only work for AE 7.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-07-2007, 09:46 PM
Thanks for that! I actually already own AE 6.5

I did reduce the saturation quite a lot more in PPro and I can tell you that I'm really starting to like what I'm seeing.

I'll be posting some pics later for opinions.

Thanks again for the latest post! I'll look into everything you mentioned.

PS- The new edit is really looking much better.

Cheers,

Mike

AmyO
06-07-2007, 10:24 PM
I have to say, I'm glad there are some people who decided to go the comedy route with this fest. Your film was humorous and entertaining, and overall, well put together. I felt that the gear review scene was a bit long, but I don't know that it needs to be cut altogether. Robin was so earnest in his spy endeavors that I cheered inside when the briefcase ended up being left behind for him to just walk over and pick up. Nice.

Good work. :)

kurtmo
06-08-2007, 12:45 AM
I enjoyed this film. It was fun. The reveal was nicely handled (though I could have used another few seconds of Robin looking around wondering how things could have worked out so well.

I do agree with the comment on the second agent in the church. I felt like she needed a bit more life. As for the gadget scene, I thought it was appropriate, but I felt like Robin's responses were just a hair over the top. I tend to do "cheesy" comedy myself (though I've tried to tone it down in my own piece for this fest) and it seemed like Robin could have been the bumbling spy without going all the way over the edge.

Again, I enjoyed this one. The story was clear. Shots were nicely composed. Good work!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-08-2007, 09:31 AM
Thanks! I've really cleaned up the gadget explanation scene in the new edit. It is now just a few shots and voice overs during other scenes.

Like flashbacks in a way...

I really like the flow of the new edit much more than the original.

Hopefully everyone will agree once I post it.

Thanks for the great comments!

Mike

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-08-2007, 08:24 PM
Here are some new CC frame grabs. I have dropped the saturation considerably from the original footage. Still working on it though...

Any other suggestions are welcome.

The final edit is really looking much stronger now. The gadget scene is all but a few flashbacks now...

http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/eagle_seagullcc.jpg


http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/new_eagle_cc.jpg


http://www.morecowbellpictures.com/downloads/robincc.jpg

gabrielflorit
06-09-2007, 06:32 PM
This was a delight! Great script. I loved how in the beginning it looks like a serious spy movie, but then they start going through all the bird-named spies - and she's sitting right next to him. Classic, even cliche perhaps, but effective nonetheless.

Everything was perfect with this one. Great lighting, best score of the entire fest... Yep, a delight.

deedive
06-10-2007, 08:34 AM
this film was real fun to watch. thanx for making it, kyser

Edgen
06-10-2007, 12:14 PM
My Thoughts:

I liked the look of the film and I dug the 'robin''s performance the most. I think you could have nixed that entire scene with the girl behind the grid. I'm looking forward to your new cut with just the flashbacks. I think that'll work much better.

I think someone mentioned it, but I think you needed to establish who he shot off screen which would have opened up that scene to the urgency of bailing out. I loved the fact they were sitting one isle back from each other at the beginning.

Looking forward to seeing more and way to go out on a limb and use another camera.

cheers!
/j

Norm Sanders
06-10-2007, 01:11 PM
The highlight in acting for me was the original agent in the church ... the guy outshined all the others, IMO. Also loved the gag with him sitting in the front pew, only to have the other agent less than 6 feet from him, in the next pew, upon the reveal. Funny work!

I honestly believe this film is among the best, if not THE Best for sound design!! I loved the music (great job, Leo!!), but didn't see who did your sound design ... was that also Leo? It was perfect!

The lensflare in the church could have used better compositing, or just lose it all togther, IMO ... it screamed of post FX.

Otherwise, great location, and although I think the gadget scene was way too drawn out & could be dramatically cut, the gadget agent was absolutely beautiful on screen. Upon the reveal of "Robin" our agent, I believe editing/pacing could be improved ... which it sounds like you may already be addressing.

Michael Anthony Horrigan
06-10-2007, 08:37 PM
This was a delight! Great script. I loved how in the beginning it looks like a serious spy movie, but then they start going through all the bird-named spies - and she's sitting right next to him. Classic, even cliche perhaps, but effective nonetheless.

Everything was perfect with this one. Great lighting, best score of the entire fest... Yep, a delight.Thanks for that! I appreciate it.


this film was real fun to watch. thanx for making it, kyser Cheers!



My Thoughts:

I liked the look of the film and I dug the 'robin''s performance the most. I think you could have nixed that entire scene with the girl behind the grid. I'm looking forward to your new cut with just the flashbacks. I think that'll work much better.

/j Thanks, Justin! The new edit is just that, a few gadget flashbacks with an entirely new look. I have to say, it works MUCH better. The added office scene also fits in quite nicely.

Thanks.




I honestly believe this film is among the best, if not THE Best for sound design!! I loved the music (great job, Leo!!), but didn't see who did your sound design ... was that also Leo? It was perfect!



Leo did the music, I did all of the editing, sound effects, etc... not sure if that's what you mean by sound design. Glad you liked it though.

PS- I have also gotten rid of some of the stained glass shots and removed some of the lens flare as well.

I really want to thank everyone for their advice. I really try to take it to heart and learn as much as I can.

Cheers,

Mike