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Barry_S
01-31-2007, 08:57 PM
Welcome to our new and simplified voting system, starting with Drama-Fest. Starting with this DVXFest, we'll no longer have the complicated spreadsheet ballots we've been experimenting with in past fests. All you have to do is vote for your favorite film--period. One user, one vote--that's it. Users still need a minimum of 100 posts to vote (and please don't pad your post count with a lot of junk or we'll just throw away your vote). Detailed critiques of cinematography, sound mixes, etc, should be posted on the individual film threads. A couple of thoughtful sentences are much more useful than wondering what a 6.23 means. :)

Future fests will have an automated voting system, but for DramaFest, users should just private message me with their votes. Please include your current post count in the PM along with the SINGLE title of your favorite film. Not your top three, top two, top ten, or top anything-other-than-one film. And please, no changing votes. Thanks and congratulations to all the participating filmmakers!

AmbassadorTex
01-31-2007, 09:09 PM
I had heard that submitting a film also qualified you to vote - not true?

Nicolas
01-31-2007, 09:10 PM
What's my case? Can I vote? I submitted a film, though for certain reasons I had to pull out after sending. Thx.

Barry_S
01-31-2007, 09:28 PM
I had heard that submitting a film also qualified you to vote - not true?

This hasn't been the case in the past, but the main reason for the rule is to prevent filmmakers from recruiting people to just drop in and vote for their films. We want the voters to be bona fide site members. However, I think it's reasonable to allow filmmakers submitting a film to vote. So the Director OR Producer of a film may vote even if he/she has less than 100 votes. But only one person per film can take advantage of this limited-time offer--ie, your whole crew can't vote if they each have less than 100 posts. I think that's reasonable.

Robert Eldon
01-31-2007, 10:16 PM
Barry,

When the voting is complete, will you tell the filmmakers how many votes they got and will we be able to see how many votes for each entry relative to the other entries?

Thanks.

Brandon Rice
01-31-2007, 10:18 PM
Thanks for the info Barry! Dig the new system... talk about less headache, eh? ;)

TimurCivan
01-31-2007, 11:22 PM
WE had to go alll through the ballot system to get to this simple, elegent solution? lol Thank you Barry.

Brandon Rice
01-31-2007, 11:23 PM
WE had to go alll through the ballot system to get to this simple, elegent solution? lol Thank you Barry.

Yeah haha... you remember THOSE days...:cheesy:

Michael_Petro
01-31-2007, 11:47 PM
Wow horrorfest voting hurt my head..now all i have to do is watch then go THAT ONE... very nice :)

TimurCivan
01-31-2007, 11:53 PM
kind of like... voting the way it was ment to be.....

Barry_S
02-01-2007, 06:30 AM
Barry,

When the voting is complete, will you tell the filmmakers how many votes they got and will we be able to see how many votes for each entry relative to the other entries?

Thanks.

We'll be announcing 1st place, 2nd place, and 3rd place--period. No numbers whatsoever. Honestly, the best feedback you can get will be on your individual film threads.

ignatius
02-01-2007, 07:57 AM
Will URLs to the films be posted today? How long is the voting period?

deepentertainments
02-01-2007, 07:59 AM
This hasn't been the case in the past, but the main reason for the rule is to prevent filmmakers from recruiting people to just drop in and vote for their films. We want the voters to be bona fide site members. However, I think it's reasonable to allow filmmakers submitting a film to vote. So the Director OR Producer of a film may vote even if he/she has less than 100 votes. But only one person per film can take advantage of this limited-time offer--ie, your whole crew can't vote if they each have less than 100 posts. I think that's reasonable.


Thanks Barry.... I guess now I can vote....
great

Raw and Vital
02-01-2007, 08:13 AM
Yes, when will we be able to watch the films and start voting? Later on today?

Barry_S
02-01-2007, 08:27 AM
The system should be up by Friday night. I need to prescreen the films to make sure there aren't any technical or other problems, and Larry & company are still getting the server system up and running smoothly.

Raw and Vital
02-01-2007, 08:44 AM
Ah, thank you for the response. I shall look forward to watching them sometime friday night.

AmbassadorTex
02-01-2007, 09:05 AM
Excellent news re: voting. Thanks.

I will use our single vote wisely, fairly, and with the full authority vested in me by the friendly voices in my head.

Kyle Stebbins
02-01-2007, 09:23 AM
i absolutely love your avatar, ambassadortex. wes anderson is an idol of mine. -- the life aquatic is a fantastic, beautiful film.

TeamSeaShanty
02-01-2007, 09:26 AM
To AmbassadorTex,

Hey now! Who elected you leader of this here outfit?

khmuse
02-01-2007, 11:38 AM
This is an elegant solution, simple and absolute.

preston
02-01-2007, 12:05 PM
This is an elegant solution, simple and absolute.
yeah, I agree 100%. absolute, fast, concrete results.

I know I'm really asking for trouble here, but wouldn't it be just as easy to post a top 10 or 20 as it is to post a top 3? or am I just missing the point? I know the value of the feedback is what I'm really interested in, especially in my case with this being my first film ever, but I'm sure the 4th place team would like to know that they just missed the top 3 instead of thinking they placed 23rd or something . . .

ok, maybe I'm just too tired like everyone else, but this is the first thought I had about the new system, so I figured I'd share it.

good luck to all!

Norm Sanders
02-01-2007, 12:07 PM
It IS simple, though for me also somewhat saddening, as it was great to see how you compared against your peers in overall camera, script, score, acting, etc. In the older way (although it caused stresses of different sorts), it gave the other folks who helped make the film a sense of their own achievement, even if the film didn't win, simply because they could see how their specific craft measured up against others.

I'm also curious, Barry, if folks are allowed to vote for their own films ... reason being is that there are quite a few films that have several, if not a good sized team, of DVXusers on a project. If they all vote for their film there could be an automatic 3-6 or more votes for their film compared to another film that perhaps only had one DVXuser on it. Hope that makes sense, but I feel it's an important issue to address.

Barry_S
02-01-2007, 12:21 PM
Unfortunately no system is perfect, but there will be more than enough total votes to offset a crew of 5 or 6 voting for their own film. Most users, including those that submit a film, are pretty honest about voting for the best films. There's usually pretty good agreement on the top few films--below that you can't really tease out good information on why another film got a few more or less votes. I won't be releasing the totals because this sytem will produce an almost binary effect with a very small number of films getting most of the votes--usually there's a couple that stand out. We want to deemphasize the competitive aspects of this fest and highlight the great cooperative spirit we see. I encourage everyone to directly comment on the strengthes and weaknesses of each film within the film threads. Hopefully everyone will be respectful and thick-skinned enough to give and accept honest critiques.

Nicolas
02-01-2007, 12:39 PM
Barry, pm you ;)

Norm Sanders
02-01-2007, 01:06 PM
Unfortunately no system is perfect, but there will be more than enough total votes to offset a crew of 5 or 6 voting for their own film.

True, if there's a BIG difference between the 1st & 2nd place film, or second to 3rd, etc., then no big deal. But if it comes down to the difference of one vote, and it's noticed by the Mods that the film that one by one vote had 5-6 of their own crew voting for it, vs. the one that lost out only having one crew voting ...

Well, you know what I mean. As you said, hopefully folks can get passed the natural bias they may have with their own product & vote as they would if their own film wasn't in the fest (unless their film truly rocks the house & there's just no comparison, etc.).

RomanJaquez
02-01-2007, 01:58 PM
Here is a (3) simple question for a simple answer:
How do I know the number of post I have to submit to you? {1} Do I submit the number of post in the film thread or {2} the number of post I have as a DVXuser member? If {2}, how do I get that number?

Jason Ramsey
02-01-2007, 02:01 PM
The number of posts you have as a dvxuser member.

You find that by viewing your profile.

Jason

Barry_S
02-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Your total number of posts--you can also look it up in the Members List above.

RomanJaquez
02-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Roger that Jason!
Thank you sir

jeremytuttle
02-01-2007, 02:58 PM
In the older way (although it caused stresses of different sorts), it gave the other folks who helped make the film a sense of their own achievement, even if the film didn't win, simply because they could see how their specific craft measured up against others.

I'm kinda bummed that the sub categories are out on this one, hopefully they'll get added back in the next fest when everything get's automated.

Also I'll put in my feeble request in having a list of the top 10 (wishful thinking) maybe 20 (probably dreaming). I know this will make it harder but for some reason even knowing I got 39th place out of 40 would be a nice bonus.

jontuttle
02-01-2007, 03:56 PM
This is a well respected sight with a lot of people that belong to it and if your film were to place 10th out of 40 films that would be huge as a resume builder. It could be really helpful to a up and coming to get a career going by beating out 40 other film makers and being able to prove it. Having a huge community of film makers pick you is a big deal. I'm sure the motive for everyone here is the love of film and getting to know others with the same passion for film, but knowing where you placed could go along way to help one grow. On multiply levels.

But then again if just one person told me they liked our film and it impacted them in a positive way, I would be very happy.

AmbassadorTex
02-01-2007, 07:43 PM
To AmbassadorTex,

Hey now! Who elected you leader of this here outfit?
Well Pete, I figured it should be the one with the capacity for abstract thought. But if that ain't the consensus view, then hell, let's put it to a vote.


And Kyle, you said: "i absolutely love your avatar, ambassadortex. wes anderson is an idol of mine. -- the life aquatic is a fantastic, beautiful film."

100% agreement from me. What a weird, heartfelt, addictive film...obviously we're quite taken with it...

TeamSeaShanty
02-02-2007, 05:05 AM
Well Pete, I figured it should be the one with the capacity for abstract thought. But if that ain't the consensus view, then hell, let's put it to a vote.


In that case, I'm votin' fer your's truley!

Ted Arabian
02-02-2007, 08:30 AM
Wow! That is a simplified voting process! Dang... with only one film to name, you really have to have an undoubtable feeling about what you think is the absolute best film that you watched. That is going to be tough.

I understand and share some of the concerns that have been mentioned here and would like to comment.

1) Though the last system was a bit laborious, it was great to see how a film ranked in the individual catagories. I actually liked the last system and was hoping to see some tweaking done to it to improve upon it. Not scrap it altogether. Maybe this is in the works for future fests.... I did see that Barry S. elude to the fact that this was "temporary" system for dramafest.

2) A film that utilized a lot of dvxusers in the making and allowing them to vote for their own film "could" swing the voting results, (as Norm pointed out). But, as Barry stated and I agree, there is no reason to doubt the integrity of a dvxer's vote. I believe that most, if not all, will honor that single vote that they have and give it to the BEST FILM that they watched. I would also like to point out that, particularly in our film, several of the dvxusers involved have their own film in the fest or worked on several other films. (Norm, I don't mean to insinuate that were referring to TTN particularly... though we do certainly fit the bill!)

It will be an interesting voting period. I know that I am not looking forward to having the responsibility of saying, "X" was the best film and that is that! That is a lot of pressure! (unless of course, there is a film that just blows my mind and there is no question about it! :) But I am sure that we are going to see a lot of films that are worthy!)

-Ted

ignatius
02-02-2007, 10:11 AM
It would be nice to see at least the top ten.

Norm Sanders
02-02-2007, 10:41 AM
LOL, Ted, I even thought about clearly stating that I was not referring to team TTN when writing that, as yours is possibly the biggest team in the fest (with regards to DVXuser's), but I didn't want to single out or exclude any particular film. Even our film technically has quite a few DVXusers on it, but as you said some of them may have their own films (Ryan Walters, for example), or could be a part of SEVERAL films (Justin Durban - composer), etc.

It was just a question I had to voice is all, and think it was soundly answered.

FatBird19
02-02-2007, 10:51 AM
I believe that most, if not all, will honor that single vote that they have and give it to the BEST FILM that they watched. I would also like to point out that, particularly in our film, several of the dvxusers involved have their own film in the fest or worked on several other films.

haha. I think this is why 2nd and 3rd place is going to be a real wildcard vote.

I said it once and i'm saying it again(not to be a douche, I just want to put it out there) I think we should have a top three best film vote

Ted Arabian
02-02-2007, 11:50 AM
I agree FatBird. I don't even want to think about how I am going to pick ONE clear favorite.

>>>>>>>>>>

Norm, I hope that you know I wasn't lashing out on your comment and I hate to belabor the point. I know that your question was answered.

I thought that it was a valid point that you made and I wanted to re-emphasize to everyone that their one, single vote has to be used wisely.

Sorry if you thought that I was hammering on you. I certainly didn't mean it that way! :)

J.R. Hudson
02-02-2007, 12:02 PM
I like the idea of BEST PICTURE

I think the older way, although nice to see how other elements of your film stack up, can skew the BEST PICTURE results with spread out categories. A film that is well done in technical fields does not neccasarily make it THE BEST PICTURE

This way; it'll be about story and the core ingredients that support it (The basics)

preston
02-02-2007, 12:04 PM
I agree FatBird. I don't even want to think about how I am going to pick ONE clear favorite.

Ted, I can make this easy for you - save youself the headache and just vote for my film. :-Laugh(DBG)-1

Ted Arabian
02-02-2007, 12:06 PM
You got it Preston! Whew. My worries are over!!! :grin:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I agree John. After horrorfest, I had suggested that there be a catagory for Best Picture with the award going there. BUT, I thought that it would be great to have the sub catagories with Best Editing, Best Cinematography, etc.

That is one reason why I do like THIS voting system but would like to at least offer my top 3 films.

Anyway, it is about making a film... right!?

Raw and Vital
02-02-2007, 12:07 PM
Ted, don't listen to him :Drogar-Love(DBG): . I guess i'm gonna have to call my muscle. scare some votes out of people... haha

Norm Sanders
02-02-2007, 01:52 PM
Ted, PM'd you. You're cool, my friend.

FatBird19
02-02-2007, 02:48 PM
That is one reason why I do like THIS voting system but would like to at least offer my top 3 films.

If I got three votes I would definitely put the best film at the top and the other two that were really good but not quite as good in their respective places. If we, collectively as dvxers, can only claim one film in the voting system then I have a feeling that the votes are going to be greatly slanted towards one or two films and all of the other great films will be neglected for the 2nd and 3rd place positions simply for the reason that the one vote system doesn't give them the option of getting attention. I think three votes would make for more balanced and accurate voting results.

Ok, I've said my bit. I'm officially done talking about this. :beer:

Blaine
02-02-2007, 02:56 PM
No matter how many you can pick, you eventually have to settle on which one you liked best, so I don't really see a problem with one vote. I am going to watch EVERY entry before making my decision as it is only fair to everyone that devoted their time to producing those entries. After a complete viewing, I'll probably narrow it down to the best two or three films, watch those, and make my decision. Hopefully, I'll be able to offer feedback to each filmmaker. The feedback my be on a curve, though, based on the experience of the filmmaker. Voting will not be on a curve.

Jason Ramsey
02-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Well said, Blaine.

FatBird19
02-02-2007, 03:09 PM
No matter how many you can pick, you eventually have to settle on which one you liked best, so I don't really see a problem with one vote. I am going to watch EVERY entry before making my decision as it is only fair to everyone that devoted their time to producing those entries. After a complete viewing, I'll probably narrow it down to two the best two or three films, watch those, and make my decision. Hopefully, I'll be able to offer feedback to each filmmaker. The feedback my be on a curve, though, based on the experience of the filmmaker. Voting will not be on a curve.

I think what it does though is limit us as dvx voters to express the kinds of films we like the best and are the most interested in. Multiple votes I believe allows for more varied and dynamic tastes and opinions on what we consider the best film whereas one vote polarizes the opinion market and leaves other good films to be less recognized.
Realistically, adding multiple votes probably won't change who wins, but it will defenitely change 2nd place, 3rd place, and so on when people are more allowed to express what they like.

Barry_Green
02-02-2007, 03:23 PM
Keep in mind, this is all subject to evolution/escalation. We're gonna try it this way and see how it goes. The voting has changed in most every festival, and we won't know how well it works until we actually do it.

TimurCivan
02-02-2007, 03:29 PM
i thin kthis one will be good. In the event of a tie, i think you should pic the one you mods lke best, keep it a secret and jsut declare a winner.

Blaine
02-02-2007, 03:53 PM
I think what it does though is limit us as dvx voters to express the kinds of films we like the best and are the most interested in. Multiple votes I believe allows for more varied and dynamic tastes and opinions on what we consider the best film whereas one vote polarizes the opinion market and leaves other good films to be less recognized.
I'm certainly not trying to argue with you Justin, but if you really want to see a wide variety of opinion, firmly expressed, just take a trip to the the FILM DISCUSSION forum. You quickly learn about the variety of "individual taste" there. Anyway, here's to watching some good shorts...:beer: :beer: :beer:

Mark Harris
02-02-2007, 03:54 PM
i thin kthis one will be good. In the event of a tie, i think you should pic the one you mods lke best, keep it a secret and jsut declare a winner.

Dude, that's what they did last time and see how that turned out??????? :) :) :)

Ted Arabian
02-02-2007, 07:27 PM
Ted, PM'd you. You're cool, my friend.
Cool! I got you PM! Thanks!

Ted Arabian
02-02-2007, 07:30 PM
Dude, that's what they did last time and see how that turned out??????? :) :) :)
HAHAHA!!! Ouch.... Are we still sore? :)

leofernandez
02-02-2007, 09:16 PM
when are we allowed to vote and when do we get to view the films?

Blaine
02-02-2007, 09:18 PM
when are we allowed to vote and when do we get to view the films?Soon enough, Grasshopper.

Tom Marshall
02-02-2007, 09:31 PM
As long as I don't have to watch a short of some guy skinning an animal while I listen to sounds of a baby crying, I think I'll be good.

Blaine
02-02-2007, 09:35 PM
Not into Art Films, huh? :huh:

Tom Marshall
02-02-2007, 09:38 PM
hahaha... man, that film was wrong on so many levels...

FatBird19
02-02-2007, 09:58 PM
hahaha... man, that film was wrong on so many levels...

was that film in horrorfest or something? :zombie_smiley:

Jason Ramsey
02-02-2007, 10:03 PM
yes, it was.

Jason

Larry Rutledge
02-02-2007, 10:09 PM
Barry_S is testing the content delivery system I built, once he's satisfied it works correctly he'll be opening the doors. I'm guessing it will be extremely late tonight or, more possibly, tomorrow.

For anyone that cares (tech geeks like me like this stuff :huh: )... I built a system that presents the films as a series of links. When you click the link (left - click, not right-click) it selects one of the mirrors (based on a closely guarded, secret algorithm). It then forces the browser to download the file, from that mirror.

The cool thing is, when you click the link, after a few seconds the browsers "save as" dialog appears for that film. What's even cooler is each time you click any link on the "portal" you are getting served the selected film from a different mirror.

What this means is the bandwidth is more evenly shared among mirror owners. In the past, we published a list of mirror links. From there people would select one of the mirrors, then download all the films from that mirror. And, most people select the first one or two (usually the first) link in the list. THis means the first mirror gets slammed until it dies, then it is retired and the next gets attacked.

This new system helps share the load across all the mirrors, making better use of bandwidth. It should also perform better as the requests are spread out across the mirrors also (rather than 100 people downloading the same file from the same server at the same time, when the downloading begins).

In addition, when the announcement is made that you can begin viewing, I will follow it up with instructions on how to correctly link to your film from within your thread. Using a special URL you can serve up your film and have those clicks also go through the load balancing/auto downloading system.

And, since this is a new system, if anyone has any trouble getting it to work correctly we'll give that person a hard link to a mirror so they can download the old fashioned way.

My hope is that everyone has had a better experience in getting your film delivered to the contest, and that soon you will have had a better experience in getting the films for viewing/voting.

Peace,
Larry

Jason Ramsey
02-02-2007, 10:14 PM
That's great, Larry. Thanks for all of your hard work. Easy for users to download the flicks, but lots of stuff going on behind the curtain, keeping things running smoothly, and bandwidth evenly allocated. Perfecto. Here's to the new system working splendidly :beer: Go have a few. You deserve it.

Later,
jason

Blaine
02-02-2007, 10:15 PM
My hope is that everyone has had a better experience in getting your film delivered to the contest, and that soon you will have had a better experience in getting the films for viewing/voting.I could not believe how easy the upload was, Larry. You've done a fine job. You should be singing...(yes, I watched your video).

Barry_S
02-02-2007, 10:27 PM
We have a few bugs to squash tonight, so check back tomorrow morning boys and girls. We don't want the Titanic to sail with a loose hatch--ok bad analogy there.

Mark Harris
02-02-2007, 10:35 PM
When you click the link (left - click, not right-click) it selects one of the mirrors (based on a closely guarded, secret algorithm).

That wouldn't be the "eenie-meenie-minie-moe" algorithm, would it? I implement that one quite a bit in my software development. That and the "Bigger Hammer" pattern represent about 70% of all of my design, actually...

Edgen
02-03-2007, 12:12 AM
... And, most people select the first one or two (usually the first) link in the list. THis means the first mirror gets slammed until it dies, then it is retired and the next gets attacked.

damn.. I wish we had this in the last festival. www.edgenmusic.com is still dead because it got SlizzzAaaammmmedd!

anxious to start watching these films and waste another 2-3 days of my life... I mean.. Enlightenment... :huh:


Larry, sounds like you've done a tremendous job on this system and anxious to see how it works with this round.

/j

Norm Sanders
02-03-2007, 12:15 AM
Sorry, Justin, I probably contributed to your dead server ... it was BLAZING fast, so I made sure I pulled all the films from yours. :)

Edgen
02-03-2007, 12:21 AM
Norm.. Yup. I think everyone thought the same thing. .. "OOOOooh, hit Justin's server. He's first on the list and better yet, let's stream from it directly!"

..

.. Oh SNAP!
.Spike!
Shut it down!

..

If anyone out there has a hosting company and is willing to re-direct my DNS numbers I'd be eternally grateful :)

/j

Norm Sanders
02-03-2007, 12:35 AM
I don't know what that stuff means, but I've got my hosting through Bluehost.com, and don't use but a fraction of what I have available. Once this fest is done, I'd be happy to let you use some space, if needed, Justin.

mikkowilson
02-03-2007, 12:52 AM
I just need to step in here to publicly acknowledge how much work Larry has been putting into this distribution system.

I've been working with him on the sidelines helping to prep mirrors and do a bit of the design work. He's been working on the distribution system, that you will all witness soon, non-stop for the past 4 days. And the results are great!

Gone are the days of wading through threads to find a mirror that is still up at a crawl being hit by tens of other users trying to download the same files before the bandwidth quota is reached. This new system Larry has put together is super slick; it's already hugely eased the work of the mirror providers (as the files are now distributed directly from server-to server, with no intermediate downloads!), what took each mirror provider hours of time and gigs of bandwidth now happens in minutes with one click from Larry. And the download system will be just as quick and easy for everyone to quickly get the films for viewing.

When the system goes live tomorrow you will all see how much Larry has done. He deserves a tip of every-one's hat.

In addition to Larry...
I'd like to personally thank all the mirror providers for donating their precious server space and bandwidth on which to run the fest distribution system.

This is going to be the best fest ever!

- Mikko

Edgen
02-03-2007, 01:08 AM
*tips my hat*

Larry... Are you up for hire? Or a resume' anywhere? Lets make you a mega rock star! :)

/j

Brandon Rice
02-03-2007, 01:21 AM
I don't know what that stuff means, but I've got my hosting through Bluehost.com, and don't use but a fraction of what I have available. Once this fest is done, I'd be happy to let you use some space, if needed, Justin.

Bluehost ROCKS!

And yes, I tip my hat to Larry as well, bravo man! :dankk2: :beer:

Zak Forsman
02-03-2007, 01:33 AM
In addition to Larry...
I'd like to personally thank all the mirror providers for donating their precious server space and bandwidth on which to run the fest distribution system.

This is going to be the best fest ever!

- Mikkoit's the least i could do. i'm proud to be a part of this community and particularly excited to see a slate of DVXFest films stripped of genre conventions (sci-fi, horror, etc). maybe one day i'll have the time to enter a short of my own. (early plug for "DocFest"!!)

:beer: :beer: :beer: here's to larry!!!

Jason Ramsey
02-03-2007, 07:09 AM
I just want to echo Mikko's statements about Larry.

Larry has embodied the spirit of what DVXUser and this fest is supposed to be about. Lending a helping hand where it is needed, going above anyone's expectations, when he didn't need to do anything but sit back and enjoy the fest. And, expecting nothing in return for his services. Just being glad to give back. That is what is great about this community and these fests, when things go like they should. Such a wonderful community, with a lot more give, than take.

Thanks, Larry!

Here's to a great fest, everyone:beer:

Enjoy the films.

Jason

snodart
02-03-2007, 08:50 AM
That wouldn't be the "eenie-meenie-minie-moe" algorithm, would it? ...
LOL.

Thanks for all the work guys. Can't wait to give the new set up a spin!

:beer::dankk2:

androoow
02-03-2007, 11:08 AM
wow one vote = one film... best film.

if only the Oscars were like that !! then we would have one presentation and 3 hours of singing and dancing!! hmmm.

Zak Forsman
02-03-2007, 01:59 PM
Don't make me CHOOSE!!!!
i've watched about 15 to 20 films and i already have three that i would award top prize to. this single vote is not easy to place.

iSTy
02-03-2007, 07:56 PM
or maybe one presentation and the rest of the time for something interesting

leofernandez
02-03-2007, 08:12 PM
can we start voting?

Blaine
02-03-2007, 08:16 PM
can we start voting?
Wow, I've only had the chance to really watch 13 so far. I may watch another 2 tonight, but I don't want to burn out. I've got a couple that are in the running so far. I think that based on what I've seen so far this fest has the best overall quality of any of the fests. That bodes well for the future.

Barry_S
02-03-2007, 10:45 PM
can we start voting?

Yes.

TimurCivan
02-03-2007, 10:53 PM
OMG man i finihsed watching them at 6 PM last night and Voted by 7.... lol

spidey
02-04-2007, 11:41 AM
who we send too?

TimurCivan
02-04-2007, 11:46 AM
barryS

spidey
02-04-2007, 11:50 AM
k making sure

Neil Rowe
02-04-2007, 03:33 PM
when does voting end?

Yardsale
02-04-2007, 04:12 PM
been enjoying everyone's work, great stuff guys!

TommyK
02-04-2007, 04:37 PM
Wow, this is exciting wish i could enter. no knowledge, no camera, no money. i will watch, listen and learn.

Barry_S
02-04-2007, 09:08 PM
The voting will end on next Saturday--that gives everyone a full week to view and vote. I'll accept votes until 6:00 p.m. EST next Saturday.


when does voting end?

TimurCivan
02-04-2007, 10:00 PM
Wow, this is exciting wish i could enter. no knowledge, no camera, no money. i will watch, listen and learn.


Not an excuse. Beg Borrow Steal. ( just not form me cause i'll hunt you down)

Brandon Rice
02-05-2007, 08:15 AM
My vote is in.

dvpixl
02-05-2007, 09:00 AM
submitted my vote.

jeremytuttle
02-05-2007, 09:12 AM
Wow, you guys are quick. I'm dying here trying to pick one. I have four, four dang it, that I'm not sure about.

ullanta
02-06-2007, 09:10 AM
My Vote's in. I mentioned in a PM, but would like to present here, that I'd suggest in the future modifying the simple voting system: let everyone vote for three films, without any order. That both makes the decision easier for voters, and allows a film liked by everyone to have a better chance against a film that was liked more by fewer people... if you follow me.

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-06-2007, 10:31 PM
haha what am I missing, I cannot find what to do / where to go to vote.
I read the whole thread and saw that it will be a single pick vote.
that Larry R made the system
that Barry S wast testing it
then someone said can we vote and the answer was yes?

I'm sure I missed something since others are figuring it out, but can someone give me a clue and can we put the link, or a very simple single sentence instruction in the 1st post of the thread. "Just PM Barry S with your vote" or "click here to vote" or "email here to vote"

thanks :)

Brandon Rice
02-06-2007, 10:32 PM
"Just PM Barry S with your vote"

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-06-2007, 10:37 PM
Ok thanks.
I think the beginning of the thread should actually say that if possible. In case anyone else is a dumb as me, reads the whole thread forwards, then backwards, then goes to the viewing page and clicks the "dont forget to vote" link only to find my self back at the beginning of this thread, lol :grin:

snodart
02-07-2007, 12:58 AM
It's okay, I did it too. I was like that kid that doesn't raise his hand... I waited for somebody else to ask the dumb question. :dankk2:

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-07-2007, 04:39 AM
heheh, I guess I've done so many stupid things around here I had nothing to lose :Drogar-Dum(DBG):
:laugh:

Mark Harris
02-07-2007, 04:51 AM
Remember Jack, it's spelled: "18 Seconds."

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-07-2007, 07:55 PM
Remember Jack, it's spelled: "18 Seconds."

That's so funny I forgot to laugh
http://blogs.salon.com/0003174/images/SNL.jpg

Mark Harris
02-07-2007, 08:03 PM
ahahahaha "Vote for Todd, he's like a god!"

Texture
02-09-2007, 06:23 AM
Deadline for votes?

kylelewis1
02-09-2007, 06:27 AM
When do we have to vote by?

kylelewis1
02-09-2007, 06:29 AM
The voting will end on next Saturday--that gives everyone a full week to view and vote. I'll accept votes until 6:00 p.m. EST next Saturday.
Found it!

Texture
02-09-2007, 08:59 AM
Saturday 6P? Thanks mang!

kylelewis1
02-09-2007, 09:19 AM
I pretty sure that is THIS saturday at 6pm (like tomorrow). Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Chris Messineo
02-10-2007, 06:03 AM
I wish there was a little more time to vote. I have only watched about half the films and I doubt I will be able to get through the other half in time. I hate to vote for one without watching them all. :(

Any chance of giving people the whole week-end to finish watching the films and then vote?

Chris

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Voting is clizozed.

Norm Sanders
02-10-2007, 05:19 PM
Any idea when the fest results will be announced? I imagine if it's just the simple act of tallying all the votes up, and see which three had the most votes, it shouldn't take too long?

preston
02-10-2007, 05:22 PM
Any idea when the fest results will be announced? I imagine if it's just the simple act of tallying all the votes up, and see which three had the most votes, it shouldn't take too long?
pleas allow 4 - 6 weeks to process your request. thank you.

just kidding . . . :)

jeremytuttle
02-10-2007, 06:32 PM
Any idea when the fest results will be announced? I imagine if it's just the simple act of tallying all the votes up, and see which three had the most votes, it shouldn't take too long?

I don't know, it could take awhile:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/eccentrism/DVXUser_Voting-Tally.jpg

Thanks again Barry S, Jarred, Larry and everyone else for putting this together.:beer:

Norm Sanders
02-10-2007, 08:45 PM
Slick graphic, Jeremy! :grin:

Seriously though, any ideas on if we should settle in for the night & simply look tomorrow, or if we will have results tonight? Always tough when we don't have a specific timeframe to look forward to ... anxiety, anxiety! :)

jeremytuttle
02-10-2007, 09:11 PM
Slick graphic, Jeremy! :grin:

Seriously though, any ideas on if we should settle in for the night & simply look tomorrow, or if we will have results tonight? Always tough when we don't have a specific timeframe to look forward to ... anxiety, anxiety! :)

I would assume it would probably be tomorrow some time. I think Barry is on the east coast, it's like 12 there so he's probably doing exactly what my graphic shows he's doing.
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Norm Sanders
02-10-2007, 09:15 PM
Ah, good point. No use waiting up then, or hitting refresh every 2 1/2 minutes. :)

Noel Evans
02-10-2007, 09:29 PM
Holey crap!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been busy last few days on either this or that, and just found voting ended without having voted. Damn.

Norm Sanders
02-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Well, to at least make yourself feel better (or heard), you can place what you felt were the top ten, etc. here: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=86823


Sorry you missed the vote! I did that once by not turning in my completed ballot sheet a couple of fests ago ... frusterating, but it happens.

Michael_Petro
02-10-2007, 10:31 PM
I am sorry you missed the voting. It's probably that one vote I needed to push me over the top :-)

Norm Sanders
02-11-2007, 10:32 AM
:2vrolijk_08: Any updates yet on final results? Sorry for asking again!:embarasse

Michael_Petro
02-11-2007, 10:45 AM
I think they like to keep us in suspense.

dvpixl
02-11-2007, 02:34 PM
hm, thought it be up by now. nothing huh?

my whole schedule is going around this thing.

Lost Water Studios
02-11-2007, 04:11 PM
- Ki-Ki lights his touch in preperation for a rampage...thing - ^_^

Can't wait for the results......literally!

Norm Sanders
02-11-2007, 06:14 PM
For anyone that's missed it, voting has been extended (or re-opened) for the next hour: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=86170

Barry_Green
02-11-2007, 10:38 PM
Results will be announced Monday night.

Derrick_SA
02-12-2007, 06:07 AM
Well, I voted for the first time during a fest (mainly because we have a 3Gb cap per month, and it has just become affordable to purchase more than 3Gb per month so I can download all the entries).

And I must say now that I own a HVX200e I can't wait till theyannounce the next fest, cause I'm gonna enter for sure, and it might not be a winning movie, but I'm sure I will learn A LOT about movie making! I CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT FEST !!!!

BTW when is the next fest going to be announced?

Cheers,
Derrick

tmpafilmer25
02-12-2007, 06:38 AM
Next fest announced already. Spyfest will be the next fest. It was announced in the "Next Fest Possibilities..." poll thread that was recently closed.:thumbsup:

Barry_Green
02-12-2007, 10:29 AM
Rules haven't been formally announced, but the gist of it is SpyFest, with a deadline of May 1.

Charli
02-12-2007, 10:49 AM
Barry, when will the rules be announced? If there is any special instructions like the dramafest (lead named either Eric or Erica) as a screenwriter, I sort of need to know as quickly as possible.

Kholi
02-12-2007, 10:50 AM
Barry, when will the rules be announced? If there is any special instructions like the dramafest (lead named either Eric or Erica) as a screenwriter, I sort of need to know as quickly as possible.

Second that. I think Barry_S is the man to ask, though. Or, was the Charli asking that Barry?

Barry_Green
02-12-2007, 11:02 AM
Correct, Barry_S is the fest mod and the one who all fest questions get answered by and is the final answer on all things Fest-related.

Larry Rutledge
02-12-2007, 11:51 AM
I have to say I was disappointed when I saw the next fest "genre" announced. Not because I didn't like the choice (quite the contrary actually).

But I knew that the drama fest would then be overrun with demands for details about a contest that has not officially been named yet. Sure, it would be nice to get an early jump on it, but remember these fests are run by Barry_S (and Jarred when he can). And these fests are not how Barry or Jarred make their living.

I don't want to stifle creativity and initiative, but let's give the guys a chance to get one fest wrapped up before we start hounding them about the next.

Just my $0.01 9/10 (I spent the other $0.00 1/10 getting the system up for this last fest :grin: )

Peace,
Larry

Derrick_SA
02-12-2007, 12:41 PM
Yeah, I hear you Larry, and you are probably right.

But on the other hand, now that I at last own a HVX, I have an opportunity to enter a fest, its VERY hard to contain my exitement and start working on a movie I can hopefully submit!

But YES, a little patience wouldn't hurt, it's JUST SO HARD !!!!

- Derrick

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-12-2007, 12:58 PM
You GO Derrick.
That's the kind of excitement that's contagious and it's the fuel that makes these fests run.
I'll be watching yours first in Spyfest - no turning back, no excuses from you mister, you are entering. I will be on the 1st row opening night.
From your location seems like you will have access to some pretty cool locations too. :beer:

Brandon Rice
02-12-2007, 01:00 PM
South Africa! Heck ya!

Michael Anthony Horrigan
02-12-2007, 01:02 PM
What kind of camera do you need to enter one of these contests?

I'm not ready yet, just curious.

Mike

david jerome
02-12-2007, 01:05 PM
But YES, a little patience wouldn't hurt, it's JUST SO HARD !!!!

- Derrick

That's what she said.

Larry Rutledge
02-12-2007, 01:10 PM
I hope you guys don't mis-understand, I am all for the excitement and fervor that grows around these festivals. But, having been on the "working" side of a fest, this time around, I can tell you that it takes a lot out of you.

Sorry if I stifled, or ruffled, anyone...didn't mean to. Just wanted to temper the excitement a little...only so Barry can get the votes tallied before being overrun with SpyFest questions :)

Storyboard away...let's see those entries (anyone doing a Spy vs. Spy rip-off?) :grin:

Peace,
Larry

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-12-2007, 01:31 PM
I'm just trying to hype a dude into making his first movie with his HVX.
uhm ... sorry?

Brandon Rice
02-12-2007, 01:35 PM
hehe Larry... I know the headache and work these fests take, was REALLY behind the scenes for horrorfest, wow was that a fiasco!

Larry Rutledge
02-12-2007, 01:53 PM
No, no, Mr. JDS. You mis-understand. I was apolgozing for not hyping this dude into making his first movie

. . .

please, Hype to your hearts content!

Brandon Rice
02-12-2007, 01:57 PM
Hype hype hype!

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-12-2007, 02:15 PM
No, no, Mr. JDS. You mis-understand. I was apolgozing for not hyping this dude into making his first movie

. . .

please, Hype to your hearts content!
No that's it. You've ruined the whole thing for me now. And I mean the whole thing.
I'm selling all my camera equipment and moving some place where there are no internet connections.

Norm Sanders
02-12-2007, 02:20 PM
Jack, I'll buy everything you own for $1. There, I said it first, so I get first dibs, right?! :grin:

No, seriously.

Brandon Rice
02-12-2007, 02:22 PM
I'll raise to $2.50!!!

Larry Rutledge
02-12-2007, 02:28 PM
HA HA! My plan was a success! JDS is no longer a threat to my future attempts at DVX Fests. No longer will my masterpieces be overlooked by meager attempts like BoneHand (what kind of a name is that anyway? Bone Hand? Don't we all have bones in our hands? Wouldn't that, then, make us all Bone Hand's? Geesh).

Ok, I'll up the ante...I'll give you $5.00 for the whole package!!

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-12-2007, 02:35 PM
Good. I see my JDS translation instructions in my sig are working.
Actually, I am getting ready to sell many things. Will be up in the market soon.
JDS's NEW, DEMO, and USED DV Superstore will include
a "lucky DVX", glidecam 4k + smoothshooter vest support, flowpod, latest Vegas, century .7 wideangle, DVX varizoom remote, a "for parts" anamorphic adaptor ... etc. :grin:
here'sa teaser:
http://www.frenchquarterfeatures.com/store/allstuff.jpg
man I will hate to see this sweetheart go, tons of sentimental value.
I might (fingers crossed) come into some money here soon. If I do I MIGHT donate it for the next fest ... if I come into some other cash (fingers crossed).

Brandon Rice
02-12-2007, 02:39 PM
Slick slick JDS! I hear ya about sentimental value though!

Larry Rutledge
02-12-2007, 02:46 PM
Woah, that would be sweet to own THE camera that shot such award winning films as SHED, ODD Squad, and even BONE HAND :)

That would be sweet if you made these a "prize" for an upcoming fest...but then, perhaps that post was one of the 3 sarcastic ones....Hmmm. :grin:

Jared Meyer
02-12-2007, 02:48 PM
... latest Vegas,
Yo Jack, OOC, are/were you ever a Vegas guy? If not, what do you use, if ya don't mind my asking?

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-12-2007, 02:53 PM
No I am on a Mac and I use FCP.
that is why I am selling the Vegas, It is "new in box".

Jared Meyer
02-12-2007, 02:55 PM
Gotcha. Thought maybe you tried Vegas and didn't like it. I myself have never checked it out, using FCP here as well.

Larry Rutledge
02-12-2007, 02:56 PM
I'm still using Vegas 4 :crybaby: You could have pity on me, your best friend in the whole world, the one who proclaims the greatness of BONE HAND from the rooftops and mountaintops, and donate your "latest Vegas" to me, your #1 fan :thumbsup:


Ok, back to seriousness - how's the Project Barry Greenlight deal coming?

Derrick_SA
02-12-2007, 03:47 PM
Thanks Jack Daniel Stanley, I'm gonna have a lot of fun making a movie (and probably a lot harder working time than I could imagine), and hopefully get a watchable movie submitted, but time will tell, won't it.

hie hie hie hie. I think it's pretty clear out of all this that DRAMAFEST was extremely succesful, cause everyone is "hyped-up" and ready to make more movies!!!

Larry_R, I totally get where you coming from, let's finish off dramafest and let the winners enjoy their moment for a couple of days, and after that LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT FEST!! YEAH! !!! It's just fair.

patiently waiting,
- Derrick

jeremytuttle
02-12-2007, 04:45 PM
Woah, that would be sweet to own THE camera that shot such award winning films as SHED, ODD Squad, and even BONE HAND :)

That would be pretty cool, indeed. Signed of course.:)

Jack Daniel Stanley
02-12-2007, 09:56 PM
winners are up!
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=87489