My DVX trailer

[ozan]

Ight, I'll be brief...

Below is a trailer to a movie that i did for FUN! This "project" took me forever to make and I made it all by my self! Shoot, direct, plan, edit, lighting, sound, crafty, casting, locations etc... It became a love hate relationship making this short. I ran into alot of problems and ive learned alot of things not to do again! For the amount of hell and pain i had to go threw to make this... its good enough for what it is! So go easy on me!

Filmed with one basic DVX100A and no 35mm adapter used!

TURN IT UP!!! HAS LOTS OF BASS HITS!!!

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UPDATE : FEB 10 / 2009

k, its been awhile.... filmed back in the summer of 2006 before the 35mm adapter craze. Thought it was time to do abit of updating and blowing the dust off this thing. I properly up-converted the footage from SD to HD 720p. Compression isnt that great, softness and seems to be frame rate issues. Ill be uploading a better version next week. Till then... enjoy.

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UPDATE : MARCH 20 / 2011

Sheeesh, almost coming up on 5 years since this has caused a stir on here. Damn time flys! METH has been optioned out a few times over the years! A full length feature film is in the works. Finally making it into production! Will keep u guys posted.


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[LifeisAwesome]

that looks awesome.

like.. really really really awesome.

very good work.

[davidpula]

jesus christ!!! when i read "fun" and "project" i was sure i was subjecting myself to another cringe-fest shot by a teenage mongoloid in his aunt's house. this looks truly incredible. would love to know the budget, how long it took to shoot, and the cam settings/adjustments in post. the contrast is gorgeous, DOF stunning in some shots. keep us posted.

[Roadkill475]

Insane dude...Truly insane....Well done well done....Very suspense filled....Looked high budget....Love all of the fast pace shots...Especially the ones of the Mercedes and the SWAT team going into the drug house....Acting looked pretty solid as well...Give us the low down on all of your camera settings and everything David mentioned!! Great job dude....Kudos....:nads:

[slinks]

holy shiiiiiiiiip! that looks like something i can see in theatres! good job! What 35 mm adapter were u using? I saw some DOF shots.

I also like the story and acting jeez i dont see anything wrong with this. I can't believe you did all this by yourself. I'm kind of in the same boat but the quality of your work blows mine away. *jealousy* lol

Since I can see it can be done...I will aim for this and above for my next. ha!

[Shibuya Oboya]

Looked absolutely great! Did you use your M3? Would love to see production photos if you have any. What are your plans for showing the film?

And please share what went into your production- Such as lights used, lenses if you used an adapter, scene file settings, etc.

Again, really great job!

[NC17z]

I'm sold on the trailer, now how do I go about seeing the movie in its entirety?
This is fantastic! Truly inspirational as well.

[slinks]

yea i'm down to see the whole thing as well.

do you think you can put up a higher res version?

[buelusa]

Wow!!!

[adde]

Audio and video = GORGEOUS. Can´t believe you did this alone. Are you a magician?

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n13-Media Germany
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[Ieditshoot]

looked amazing....

[FiLmGeeK77]

wow, this was stunning!

[ugafan]

looked totally awful. but i guess i'll give you 1 star because you tried.

[rhandomskate]

Oh my God that was amazing. The best cinematography I've seen on this forum. Hook us up with your do's and don'ts... I would love to know so someday if I shoot a high budget film I will have some knowledge. That looked like 35mm to me lol, the quality, contrast, and colors were amazing!

[Kin869]

Dammmmmmmn, this is what you do for "fun?" I can't imagine what you can do if you were serious! Beautiful trailer, interesting story, very professional overall. My only gripe is that the bass was insane!!! It distorted a little bit on some parts, but maybe that's just my speakers. The loud music also made it hard to hear some parts of the dialogue, especially when the main character [the undercover guy] is talking.

Can't wait to see the final product!

[RyanT]

Why is this so amazing? I am truly blown away.

:starts slow clap:

[deckardScott1980]

Very nice video, shot well, great sound. What settings did you use? Was the look acheived in post or in camera? And was there a DOF adapter used?

[MojoTrancer]

Very nice work. You completely kicked my expectations in the a** and then threw them down the stairs. Outstanding. Looks like you have a great film here.

[ozan]

Tank you for your comments. Ya dis was a bitch to do. I DIDNT use any 35mm adaptor. Cant afford one. Soon maybe. Filmed it in 24p as u can tell. EVyrthing was all the set to zero in da presets. Did the rest in post.

I should mention in post I did the temp layout for the sound. It started to became to much work for me so the post sound mixing / music composed was handed off to a very talented undiscovered Gregor PHillips. Soo add another name to the credits and dont forget my actors!

here are some grabs....

http://www.ozan.ca/timeline3.jpg

http://www.ozan.ca/timeline4.jpg

http://www.ozan.ca/full_meth_uncompressed (00874).jpg

http://www.ozan.ca/full_meth_uncompressed (02214)_1.jpg

http://www.ozan.ca/full_meth_uncompressed (02605).jpg

http://www.ozan.ca/full_meth_uncompressed (03305).jpg

http://www.ozan.ca/full_meth_uncompressed (04563).jpg

http://www.ozan.ca/full_meth_uncompressed (04844)_1.jpg

[ugafan]

Tank you for your comments. Ya dis was a bitch to do. I DIDNT use any 35mm adaptor. Cant afford one. Soon maybe. Filmed it in 24p as u can tell. EVyrthing was all the set to zero in da presets. Did the rest in post.

so what did you use? just the camera without a lens? what were your camera settings, editing software, etc.? did you use magic bullet? if so, which settings?

please give us the details because it looks great.

[logicfilms]

Wow!!!

[Aaron Little]

Wow is right!

[ryan brown]

Something seems fishy here.

What was the budget on this? that's the real question. As far as actors (and lots of them), NUMEROUS expensive locations, props (guns, police gear, swat gear,etc.), vehicles (Mercedes, suburban, etc), sound, lighting, a HELICOPTER shot?

I'm finding it a little hard to believe this was a "project for fun" all orchestrated by one 23 year old.

If it's true, then I say congrats... but there's no way this was done without a large scale budget.

-brown

[ugafan]

Something seems fishy here.

What was the budget on this? that's the real question. As far as actors (and lots of them), NUMEROUS expensive locations, props (guns, police gear, swat gear,etc.), vehicles (Mercedes, suburban, etc), sound, lighting, a HELICOPTER shot?

I'm finding it a little hard to believe this was a "project for fun" all orchestrated by one 23 year old.

If it's true, then I say congrats... but there's no way this was done without a large scale budget.

-brown

so you don't believe a guy who doesn't have a few hundred dollars to by an adapter would have access to things like helicopters, expensive cars, and hollywood props?

shame on you!

[ryan brown]

so you don't believe a guy who doesn't have a few hundred dollars to by an adapter would have access to things like helicopters, expensive cars, and hollywood props?

shame on you!

:grin: :thumbsup:

[ozan]

My DVX settings all set to ZERO gamma set to NORM and matrix set to NORM. USed a UV filter. Filmed in 24p normal. I mostly zoomed in for half the stuff to get the DOF. Edited on prem1.0, colour timed and effects done in AE6.5. Alot of the stuff I lit well so i dint have to go to crazy on the colourtiming. Jst used the curves, levels, colour balance, contrast... to bring out the skin tones. During filming it took longer to setup, camera, sound, light rehearse etc.... then to shoot. eh! I would either forget to turn somthing on or run into a problem with an actor, someone complaining, cops or locations. My budget was pennies. My actors can back me up on this.

[Matthew Bennett]

My DVX settings all set to ZERO gamma set to NORM and matrix set to NORM. USed a UV filter. Filmed in 24p normal. I mostly zoomed in for half the stuff to get the DOF. Edited on prem1.0, colour timed and effects done in AE6.5. Alot of the stuff I lit well so i dint have to go to crazy on the colourtiming. Jst used the curves, levels, colour balance, contrast... to bring out the skin tones. During filming it took longer to setup, camera, sound, light rehearse etc.... then to shoot. eh! I would either forget to turn somthing on or run into a problem with an actor, someone complaining, cops or locations. My budget was pennies. My actors can back me up on this.
I like your web page... "ozan" in white letters, thats it, thats great.
This trailer was great, very very very pro stuff. But its impossible to get that kind of bokeh, DOF and blurs from the stock lens, dude, c'mon.. what adapter was used? How did you do your sound mix 'cause it sounded amazing even through my shite laptop speakers. Only a seasoned pro could produce a sound mix+ recording like this.. who did it for you? How many pennies did it cost for all the props and gear? Hold on.. what the heck is goin' on here??
I'm going to watch the piece again..

Ha.. I just watched the whole thing.. very funny. This is obviously fairly budgeted and pro... why are you marketing it this way? To test its believability as a DIY?? Why? Interesting angle, but I think you have to examine your percieved thresholds again...

[Shibuya Oboya]

I have to say, looking through Ozan's previous posts, they mostly seem to be about this project. Problems and stuff he had along the way. So it does appear to be the production he is saying. And it seems he's been working on this since 2004 or so.

Maybe a stupid question- but was it the PAL or NTSC DVX?

I'm definitely surprised that the images were done without an adapter. I asked about the M3 because of a previous you had with test footage using it.

[ozan]

Dont own a 35mm adopter. Would love to own one. Filmed with the NTSC DVX100a. That M3 stuff was from a long time ago... Comepletly differnt film not related to this.


I starting filming METH in early JUNE and finish Sept. Mostly all done during the summer time on weekends... I compeleted the edit in novmeber. So about 6-7 months for evrything. I worked on it when i could and had free time. It seemed to never end! BUt its done YAY!

Since i was solo on set. I used these old wire lav mics (Sony ECM-44B). Became a hassle cause i had to run long XLR cables. Most of the action stuff was on board mic. I did alot of extra sound recording of sound effects like car noise, doors, misc. sound fx later on.

I did the temp layout for the sound mix in premier. The trick is to do alot of LAYERING! 12+ audio tracks. The more in depth is it the better and it helps the footage look better. Near the end i had to hand it off to a friend of mine. He did all the fine tuning for me. The edit it self was a handfull.

[Roadkill475]

:shocked: It's crazy to think that you did this without a 35mm adaptor....So what projects do you have in the works are far as "serious" instead of "just for fun" projects?

So you're saying you just adjusted levels and contrast in AE with every scene setting on zero?? Wha??

[Matthew Bennett]

Amazing accomplishment if its legit...
What got you interested in this story in the first place? A sprawling look at the vancouver meth industry with a heavy dose of government conspiracy internal affairs business thrown in, featuring weathered, seasoned actors... Seems so heavy for just some 'fun' filmmaking. Usually fun around here is some stalk n'slash or a light comedy...
Please detail as much production info as you can, its should be fascinating...

Sorry, one more question.. how come the credits in the end title are backwards? Its hard to read... Or are these just 'dummy' titles to work the design out..?
Watched it again with headphones.. Some sweeet dialogue mic technique in there... adr or all production sound??

[EP2005]

I starting filming METH in early JUNE and finish Sept. Mostly all done during the summer time on weekends... I compeleted the edit in novmeber. So about 6-7 months for evrything. I worked on it when i could and had free time. It seemed to never end! BUt its done YAY!




I believed you until you said this. It can take professional, seasoned CREWS consisting of tens to hundreds of people 6-7 months to film an actual studio film with a budget in the millions. And that is their job, as in they wake up to go to work on that film, not "in their free time". I'm having a hard time this was "just you" with a budget of "pennies" doing something in your "free time". So unless this is the most professional-looking trailer for the shittiest movie ever made, we won't love you any less if you just so happen to come from a background that gave you a hefty allowance, err budget :)

I had a buddy who i knew in college who was making some really impressive SHORT FILMS complete with helicopters, explosions, some unique locations, the whole shabang, and he was only 22. BUT, his father was the "secret producer" (put 2 and 2 together), which gave him access to those locations and those fun tools we all would love to have.

SO, I'd hate to call someone a liar when they aren't, so I won't. You just need to stop posting on the dvxuser boards and show this trailer to hollywood so they can stop spending millions of dollars on sets and costumes AND lighting crews AND sound crews, because you obviously found the way to make a one man feature with just "pennies", unless that was a hell of a lotta pennies.


BTW, might wanna change the name of the film. There's already a film out called "METH" that came out in 2006. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783550/

[-zach-]

Wow... I can't believe that you went out to make something for fun and come up with this.

Looks really filmic and nice. Is the noise intentional? I took away from it that the noise was intentional because of the feel of the trailer.

Nice work!

[c.g._eads]

This looks exactly like Traffic but without the big actors. And I mean that in a good way. Unfortunately, I'm calling b.s. on this as well. At least I think I am. I guess there are only four impressive locations in the trailer. Assuming you shot this outside LA where they don't care as much about permits and wrote the movie knowing you had these locations in advance, I guess, theoretically, it could be done. The handheld would make setting up quick and easy. So that supports your case.

But chasing around that car in the trainyard seems like it would be tricky for one person. Could you explain how you did that? And not in an "aww shucks. I just pointed the camera and sorta got lucky" way. But, like, specifically.

Since you were the D.P. and the gaffer, tell us a little about the lightng setups you used. What kind of lights did you have access to? And how did you get them to the set? You must have had some help.

Where'd you get the guns and the SWAT costumes? I'm assuming you pulled in some favors on this. How did you get away with shooting them out in the open (or pretending to)? How did you feed the actors on set? Or did you feed them? Was this SAG? Or Canadian equivalent? They seem like professional actors but if you didnt' have a budget I assume they did it for free. How did you find them? How did you orchestrate the one shot in the train yard when something was being loaded inside one of the trailers in the background of your actors?

These questions are not meant to trip you up. I honestly want answers. Shoot, maybe if I can use some of your techniques, I can seriously cut out a big chunk of the budget on my film.

I guess, in really thinking about it, it wouldn't serve your interest to lie about your crew. Since any crewmember would be proud to put this on their resume. So if you denied them that, I'd think they'd be pretty pissed off. Then again, this could all be part of your marketing plan. And once you get enough buzz and you've released your movie and you made ten millon dollars on opening weekend in only 500 theatres, you'll reveal the truth, which is that you had a 100 man crew. But that's getting into some pretty elaborate conspiracy theory there.

Pardon me for being a little bit skeptical, but if you're telling the truth, consider this the ultimate compliment. Because this really does look great, regardless of what it was shot on our how big the crew was. Good job. You've got a lot of talent.

Best, Chris

[ozan]

Ye, i'd like to add more to the crew but there isnt. I have a lowel lighting kit. With a few 650w and 200w lights and all its goodies. Its not very big. Can be placed in a car and carried like my camera case. Alot of the car shots where done with a car rig mount i have. A few times i needed my actor drive the car to make sure nothign falls off. Radios were one of the most important things i used.... best investment ive bought from futureshop. Alot of my actors ive casted before. Did a normal casting sesseion like any other film. I explained evrythign to them so they new and understand wat its about and that im doing evrything and its going to be slow. I told them not dont freak out on me and be patient on set. I've had an actor who bailed out on me. His lost!

I didnt really have food on set besides water and a few snacks. A few times we did go for sushi after filming. My treat. ALot of complex shots i had to choreograph before we start filming... swat scene, car shots etc... Not that hard! Jst gotta communicate well so evryones on the same page.

[ugafan]

SO, I'd hate to call someone a liar when they aren't, so I won't.
lol. so i'm the only one willing to come out and call this guy a fraud?



:kali: ............................ :crybaby:
me..................................... the legitimacy of this trailer

[Evan S]

I'm going to say. FRAUD. Unless he give us some real numbers on his budget. I DO HOWEVER believe that he could of done all of it by himself. He just needs to give more information. I don't honestly believe someone would like about something to gain praise... what would be the point?

[Lawsuit_Boy]

Personally, I didn't see too many shots that CAN'T be done with the standard Leica lens on the dvx. I stand strong behind the fact that this camera can almost mimic the results you get with an adapter (as long as the cam is set up right and in the right position:) ) This was a hell of a trailer, and if you really did do all of this with "pennies," then congratulations. You really know how to milk each penny and pool your resources!

I'd love to see the final cut of the film. :thumbsup:

[FutureDVXUser]

I can't see the trailer, but i want to...

[MojoTrancer]

Guys there's really not much going on in this trailer that can't be accomplished with time and planning. There's only one interior scene that isn't using daylight as its main source. He could have bought that swat gear on ebay. There's tons of that crap on there. Maybe not for pennies but pretty cheap. The guns are probably airsoft. And they're all types that you can get for next to nothing online. Heck I have an airsoft M16 that I bought for 40 bucks. It might not convince super close up but it would work at the same distance he has going on in those shots. If he already had the stuff or had friends that did then it would have cost him nothing. And the swat scene and the boardroom are the only scenes where there are a lot of people together in one place. The rest is two people having conversations or one guy walking about "investigating". the news footage looks "borrowed" or maybe stock. Or maybe he just did some really good after effects magic on it to make it look that way. And perhaps he hitched a quick ride in a helicopter. Not like he filmed a dogfight it in. Just a quick shot of the console. Maybe they weren't even in the air.

So this film doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility for one kid to shoot. He already said he used Lav mics so he wouldn't need a sound guy. And if shooting with mostly sunlight, he wouldn't need anyone for that either.

So "fraud" might be a little harsh.

[c.g._eads]

Only fed your actors SNACKS!?? I guess that throws threads like this one I started out the door: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=83026

You no longer have to feed people! Then again, you didn't have any crew, and they're the ones who are so uptight about being fed. Actors, the vain creatures that they are, probably figure that the less they eat, the better they'll look anyway.

From Evan: "I'm going to say. FRAUD. Unless he give us some real numbers on his budget. I DO HOWEVER believe that he could of done all of it by himself. He just needs to give more information. I don't honestly believe someone would like about something to gain praise... what would be the point?"

Are you kidding me?? Saying that you made a movie for zero dollars! If it's in any way decent, do you know the kind of publicity you could get?? Do I need to mention the name Robert Rodriquez? We probably wouldn't know anything about him if his movie would've cost a million dollars instead of 7000 (which, when all was said and done, it probably did).

However, with the amount of effort Ozan obviously put into this, this was not a project, "for fun". For fun is fooling around on a Sunday after your TEAM (the BEARS! WOOHOO!) wins and goes to the Super Bowl!

[Shibuya Oboya]

Just realized where I got the 2004, wasn't paying attention to where it was located, the join date. Anyway.

Just wondering, what's the length of the finished movie? Or atleast approximately if your still editing the film.

Or are we all assuming that there is a "whole movie", and the trailer is all there is?

[c.g._eads]

how did you get the train yard locaton? Who did you have to talk to? How did you get permission to use one of their loaders? Was that all done on favors or did you have to pay?

Oh, and where did you get the Mercedes?

Just wondering because "pennies" is a relative term. Pennies for some is thousands and thousands of dollars. For others (like me) it's literally pennies. One thing I know for sure though. There aren't too many neighborhoods where a Mercedes would be associated with the word, pennies.

How did you orchestrate the moving SUV shot (where the camera is in front shooting the front of the car as it's moving)? How many people did you need to do that shot?

Oh, and you said you'd do a bunch of stuff differently if you could do it over again. What would you do?

[greeches]

great publicity you have created. GOOD JOB! Great short. Is it a full production or just a teaser?

[ozan]

orchestrate the moving SUV shot? IN the desert you mean? Camera was on a tripod for that... SUV drove towards the camera. I'd spent alot of time looking for locations that would fill my needs. Shooting at the container field was very difficult do to since after 9/11 security is very tight and anal!

IF i had to do this all over again. I would spread the work load. I also wont go so crazy on "must have" locations and shots.... "K.I.S.S.!" I wanted to go full out on my METH project and i did!

[markcheng]

guys, here's a trailer (http://www.movie-list.net/classics/king_trl_h640_ml.mov) I made for pennies. it took me 4 weeks to edit. Yay! we ate sushi once after the shoot my the mountain... mc

[pmgmedia]

Great job on the trailer. Looks really nice. One note: I do think the actor in the role of the chief Fed (the guy who tells the agent that he is going undercover) doesn't really pull it off. (Looks kind of like a student pretending to be a grown-up.)

I really like your lighting, camerawork and editing. I can't figure why folks are crying 'fraud' though. Guess they are just used to mediocrity. Keep up the good work.

[c.g._eads]

mark, cool looking film. Did you use any color correction? Also, for that creature thing, how did you get your actor so skinny? Must have been that 'no food on the set' rule. Good score too. Keep us updated.

[davidpula]

there is actually a film called 'meth' which is about the drug in the gay community i believe. anyway, i do feel quite silly for naively taking this for what it is claimed to be in my first post. this is the kind of fun project that is made by seriously experienced DP's and sizable crews, assistants, money, and lots and lots of time. and you simply cannot get this sort of DOF with the stock lens. all of us who have a dvx unfortunately know this. rewatching it i actually feel as if it may have been shot on an hvx or a 2/3" chip camera... by seasoned professionals. who spent a lot of money. and time. regrettably, it is too difficult to discern the letters in the credits (which are---alas---very professional and extensive) toward the end...because maybe we could solve this riddle.

[ozan]

Definitely shot on the DVX. Jst gotta zoom in and your body side to side... will give u your nice DOF shots!

[Disco Robo]

The credits at the end are from "A Scanner Darkly"

[davidpula]

lol awesome!!

[ozan]

UPDATE:

The METH trailer webpage coming soon... please stay tuned

[Atsuma]

Ok so I have been reading this entire thread and there have been some that have flamed and some that have applauded, I'm on the fence though, here's why:

If you analyse the trailer - Frame by Frame, technically, there isnt anything there that couldnt be done with a dvx100a.

The big budget "look" is due to skillful editing and music composition to give the illusion of big budget - which in this case HAS WORKED.

Look at any frame that has actually movie characters in it, 1 person, 2 people, 1 person on the phone - no very "Big Budget"

The DOF - this is maybe a little off, however, there are only a few shots that have questionable DOF for the stock dvx, everything else is pretty much on track - SO UNLESS YOU WHIP OUT YOUR OWN DVX100A AND REPLICATE HIS SHOT TO PROVE HIM A LIAR - I think we should give him some slack.

The actors seem very believable - thats what your NOT used too in seeing trailers on this sight - this trailer looks FAKE because it was done correctly and convincing in COPARRISION to what your used to seeing on this site.

Seriously - analyze each frame, there really isnt anything BIG BUDGET about any of those shots, just good editing, good music, excellent cutting between shots.

On the other hand, this guy could be full of SH*T and peddling someone else work - but I think we should at least give him the benefit of the doubt

:undecided

[Evan S]

Agreed. Not many actors, accept for in the swat scene. Which honestly doesn't look that hard to pull off. The only questionable thing to me is. The Mercedes and the train yard. although this could be a case of. great trailer... shitty movie.

[Atsuma]

AND MAN HAVE I SEEN THOSE - THE COVENANT (COUGH, COUGH) :Drogar-KnockedOut(D

[markcheng]

mark, cool looking film. Did you use any color correction? Also, for that creature thing, how did you get your actor so skinny? Must have been that 'no food on the set' rule. Good score too. Keep us updated.

ROFL:nads:

[Disco Robo]

I buy it. You can pull this off pretty easily with some decent connections. My first and only feature we had some aerials because a friend happened to be an amateur pilot so we just went up him one time, 0 dollars, or stock footage 25-100. My friend has a nice Mercedes (she won't let me roost it through the ship yards though). If you put foreground elements right in front of the lens you'll have plenty of DOF. Nice composition by the way. The swat stuff could be expensive to buy but if you live in Vancouver and have some connections with prop people. Pennies...I think this is being used metaphorically. Nice work. It's funny but the people who cry foul the loudest are actually paying you the biggest compliment. Good Luck.

[MojoTrancer]

Thanks guys, I was starting to feel like a voice in the wilderness. Nothing in this trailer that couldn't be done with careful planning, a few favors, and a little skill.

[markcheng]

It's funny but the people who cry foul the loudest are actually paying you the biggest compliment. Good Luck.

totally true. that's why this post is so compelling. part of me just doesn't want to believe it was achieved "for fun" and "for pennies" since I've been wrestling with my own project for 2 years with blood and "for quarters"...i've made fun of him, but will swallow my pride if he's really done it. it's def possible...just haven't made up my mind on if it's probable too...:shocked:

[Theguyincorner]

did you write the script yourself too?

I really enjoyed this and it definantly inspired me. I don't really care what budget you had this was awesome!

[c.g._eads]

well with enough time, any movie can be made with very few people. The reason I'm kind of skeptical, is that Ozan doesn't seem to be very combative or informative when it comes to these accusations. His response to some of the harsher challenges has been the equivalent of: "Yeah, it is possible. I just zoomed in". He hasn't answered the bigger questions. Like how he got the mercedes. That costs money. How he got the shipyard. That costs money. How he convinced someone to let him use a loader for "no money". Do you think a shipyard would let you drive one of their loaders around in a potentially dangerous scene without insurance? That costs money.

And anybody who thinks a pretend SWAT team busting into a house is an "easy" thing to do, are you fu*king nuts!???" It's one thing if you have a 70 person crew around with huge diffusion screens and big cranes so that people know a film is going on. But if you have a tiny little DVX and are the equivalent of hidden and you're in the middle of a neighborhood where nobody knows what's going on and the neighbors all of a sudden look over and see ten swat team members with guns, you can get in some real deep sh*t for that. Which means you'd have to tell the police ahead of time. And the police would have to come and stand by. And policeman cost money. And do you think the police would allow SWAT team members with guns (pretend or not) running around without a certified gun specialist on set? No. And that costs money.

Another thing I'm skeptical of is that the writing in Ozan's post is not consistent with the dialogue in Ozan's movie. I don't think the poster could write that dialogue. Go ahead and compare the two.

I know that if I were challenged like this, I would come in and specifically lay down each and every instance of debate and explain in detail how it was done.

Then again if this is all true, he probably doesn't have time for that. I shouldn't have time for these posts either as I should making movies.

Damn.

Now I've depressed myself.

Anyway, the point is that it's very smart to promote your film with an angle. It's always more fun to talk about something (like we're doing here) if you think it couldn't be done. That sparks debate. Buzz. Excitement. So it's not unlikely that someone would do this. Ozan, how much did your film cost really?

[Atsuma]

I'll make one more comment and then I'm done with this whoel thing.

The swat team scene - Am I the only person to notice there are only two guys in a "swat Type" uniform at any one time?

I have those outfits myself that I am goign to use in my film, in fact I have 5 SETS OF THEM, I paid liek $200 for the whole getup, vests, black pants, face masks. So now that I think about it, you use the same 2 outfits for one scene then the same for another? What exatly is so incredible about that?

The car chase scene - Did anyone actually see more then ONE car on the road!? Duh, film when no ones around and the clip is like 1.5 seconds.

Seriously, trailer wise, now that I have a fresh presepective, I could duplicate this entire trailer scene for scene - coming up with it and cutting it myself like he did - I could not "Yet"

Don't Be hating the player - hate the game - Course if you are lying, your going to filmmakers hell, or what I like to call - Tulsa Oklahoma. :kali:

[johney5]

Here I go, I know I shouldn't get into this debate. Nice trailer, but I won't go down the complementing path till I see the whole film. The trailer does peak my curiosity. What I would find difficult achieving as a one man team is, dealing with all the props, outfits. Coordinating the action without a couple of assistants. There are a couple of close-ups that seem to have been wet down, and there even seems to be smoke or steam in a cu. Now if you are just plain smarter, more physically able and more driven than me, and the rest of us here, big Kudos. Your a genius and you shouldn't bother answering all of our stupid questions anyway. But I'm not a genius and I was also curious about the credits...can't read them on my little quicktime, but are all the credits you? We're curious...that's why we waste time on this bloody site anyway.

[phazelee]

Just be honest with us, did you use a 35mm adapter or not.

[Shibuya Oboya]

Someone pointed out that the credits are just the credits from A Scanner Darkly, flipped.

[pmgmedia]

well with enough time, any movie can be made with very few people. The reason I'm kind of skeptical, is that Ozan doesn't seem to be very combative or informative when it comes to these accusations. His response to some of the harsher challenges has been the equivalent of: "Yeah, it is possible. I just zoomed in". He hasn't answered the bigger questions. Like how he got the mercedes. That costs money. How he got the shipyard. That costs money. How he convinced someone to let him use a loader for "no money". Do you think a shipyard would let you drive one of their loaders around in a potentially dangerous scene without insurance? That costs money.

And anybody who thinks a pretend SWAT team busting into a house is an "easy" thing to do, are you fu*king nuts!???" It's one thing if you have a 70 person crew around with huge diffusion screens and big cranes so that people know a film is going on. But if you have a tiny little DVX and are the equivalent of hidden and you're in the middle of a neighborhood where nobody knows what's going on and the neighbors all of a sudden look over and see ten swat team members with guns, you can get in some real deep sh*t for that. Which means you'd have to tell the police ahead of time. And the police would have to come and stand by. And policeman cost money. And do you think the police would allow SWAT team members with guns (pretend or not) running around without a certified gun specialist on set? No. And that costs money.

Another thing I'm skeptical of is that the writing in Ozan's post is not consistent with the dialogue in Ozan's movie. I don't think the poster could write that dialogue. Go ahead and compare the two.

I know that if I were challenged like this, I would come in and specifically lay down each and every instance of debate and explain in detail how it was done.

Then again if this is all true, he probably doesn't have time for that. I shouldn't have time for these posts either as I should making movies.

Damn.

Now I've depressed myself.

Anyway, the point is that it's very smart to promote your film with an angle. It's always more fun to talk about something (like we're doing here) if you think it couldn't be done. That sparks debate. Buzz. Excitement. So it's not unlikely that someone would do this. Ozan, how much did your film cost really?
Dude, you sound pretty defeatist. I once worked on an indie feature with 5 full tactical team uniforms that were loaned to us by local police. We had over twenty locations, all loaned to us for free - including City Hall. The police even closed off ten streets on a Sunday so we could have a car chase and we wrecked a bunch of cars that were donated by a local car dealership's junkyard for free. (They even towed the cars to the location and then towed them away.) We even blew up a car and the local fire department used it as a training exercise for their new recruits. We got all of our locations for free..how? We asked the right people. Producing a cheap film takes balls to ask for things for free, to shoot what some people wouldn't even think of trying without a million dollars. Watch the trailer again, I think you are 'projecting' a bit into what is really on the screen. (The SWAT team looks like a few guys in uniforms with airsoft guns to me, the car chase is one car only, etc.) I think the impact of exceptional editing and sound design is messing with your mind. And questioning who wrote the dialogue based on the language in his post? You are thinking about this way too much...

The stock dvx or adapter discussion reminds me of this thread, where ncje posts a clip that she shot with a 'homemade 35mm adapter' and sits back while everyone fawns over the amazingly shallow DOF, then she reveals she was joking - it was the stock dvx lens:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=67329&highlight=adapter

[c.g._eads]

Believe me. I want to be wrong.

[agcohn]

Is there an actual feature movie, or is it just a trailer?

[codar22]

Wow that was really really good stuff.

[chris f]

wow, looks amazing. reminds me of syriana. to me it seems like everything in the trailer *could* be pulled off on no budget, but with huge favors (especially the train yard scene).

[jgastelb]

guys, here's a trailer (http://www.movie-list.net/classics/king_trl_h640_ml.mov) I made for pennies. it took me 4 weeks to edit. Yay! we ate sushi once after the shoot my the mountain... mc

Well... If you think about it all of that stuff except -- the aerial shots, epic war, costume design, state of the art special effects, thousands of extras, amazing sound design, cliff hanging shots, filmic look and a few more hundred factors -- this could probably be done in pennies as well. I mean, c'mon.
LMAO
Jgastelb

[jgastelb]

Go to this link and combine the actor's first name with the director's last name. Freaky!!!

http://uk.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Ozan+Biron+

:Drogar-Shock(DBG):

[HVX2006]

He may have learned something here-


http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:ziTLOEDhlzcJ:www.boardsmag.com/screeningroom/commercials/2840/+Tatchell+%26+Ozan+Biron&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=safari

Good job in any case

[HVX2006]

Also the difference between a good trailer and a full length film is HUUUUUUUUUUUGE! Shortcomings in acting, staging, directing may be masked by quick cuts but wont hold up at regular pacing. Maybe the helicopter shot is B roll that he shot when working on the film above. Maybe he vent on one of those tourist helicopter rides for a 100$ than combined it with an arial shot lifted of youtube to be replaced once he got funding. Doing a police sequence with model guns on your property is not exactly illegal, plus, maybe its quite grannies street where every one knows little Biron is making a movie, dont see why you might not be able with a handful of actors to shoot even for a few days. Maybe he borrowed the guns from the props master he met on a previous shoot. This is Canada, small industry where everyone knows each other. I think there is nothing in this TRAILER that could not have bin done by essentially one guy, maybe with the occasional help a actor or relative. Not to rip on it, I seriously doubt that he made 90 minutes in the same quality as the trailer.

[BlueReed]

I monitor this site and when I came across this thread I had to post a comment. I have produced several small productions and several large with a two man crew and many more and have accomplished some pretty exciting things. I must say that after viewing this gentleman's trailer I would have to agree with the minority here that "yes" it is possible even very likely he did this as a one-man-band.

If you view the trailer in slo-mo with Quicktime you may notice small irregularities: When the man is walking past the "BDC" building just after he passes the white sign in the BG if you look very, very closely you can make out "One" person holding something dark (Probably the DVX) in the reflection in the window. Another scene is about mid-way through when we see the SWAT team and Police enter the home from their right-- there is a tripod in the front yard, a camera bag to the west and to the north-east and what looks like a large dark blue vest hanging on the fence.

The only point I am trying to make is it's more than possible he did this himself. A large crew with a "Budget" would catch such things while standing around.

Be happy for the guy, no need to dissect his brain for every dirty detail and make accusations because we can't fathom that this could ever have been done as described. If you feel it can't be done on a shoestring budget with one guy then go out and show the rest of the world it really can't be done-- if that's your thing!

Until then just keep creating and support one another. That's what this site was originally started for-- not to accuse and debunk, but to support and encourage.

Be scary ALL!
R.

[Aaron Little]

I choose to be inspired and motivated by the trailer.

I have a student at the gym whose father drives a Mercedes. I am sure he would get a kick out of driving his car for a movie. I also have a student who manages a loading dock. I have no doubt he would let me shoot there. He would probably even put on a mask and drive a fork truck around for me. I have taught firearms classes for Police Depts all over the country. I am pretty sure that one of them would be happy to help me with a scene or two. I know quite a few people with their private pilots license. That footage would not be a problem at all.

Could he be pulling one over on us all. Sure. But why would we rather believe that than be inspired by what he was able to accomplish.

If it is bogus then he has succeeded in inspiring us to look at all the ways we could recreate his work.

[AdvanTech]

Wow, very well done. I noticed a little bit of Jablonsky in the trailer. If you are a one-man crew, it gives me hope haha

[Adam Crabbe]

Can I be your friend? :)
That looks awesome.
If you did all that on your own you've certainly got a good demo reel!

[Roadkill475]

Yeah okay, it's possible for him to make this movie on what he says was made with just "pennies." I don't question his ability to put this together....But I think the thing that is the most frustrating is the fact that everyone has these theories on how he could put this together with a small budget but we're not hearing from the man himself the details and answers to all of these questions asked....It may be legit and for that well done...We are just so intrigued to find out how he did some of the stuff he did but we end up getting little to no info given up about the movie details...NOT EVEN THE PRODUCTION COST!

If I put together a movie like this I would love to explain each and every detail and the process I went through to get each shot....I think anyone would be proud of a project like this which he probably is, but share some of the goods homie!

:shocked:

[phazelee]

probably a busy man

[Shibuya Oboya]

Blue Reed is right. And while watching the traielr over and over, I still don't see anything that doesn't fly with Ozan's posts.

Actors? - http://www.shamelesshussy.com/

He obviously has connections with people. And if you do everything based on favors with people who are willing to help your project, he could have done it all for FREE. screw pennies.

He said he passed off his sound design to someone with talent who is as of yet, unnoticed.

The birds eye shot could have been shot from a hot air balloon, or anything else to get him in the sky.

It's obvious that he works in, and has ties in production/film. The link I posted and the Adidas Adicolor link that he was B cam on, provided by HVX2006 show that. So he has to have picked up skills along the way.

He very easily could have borrowed props, wardrobe and lighting.

And as far as him not coming on again to prove his innocence? maybe all the accusations pissed him off.

Everybody should be excited that his trailer shows what can be done with the DVX in the right hands, and that it should be taken seriously as a valid filmmaking tool.

[ugafan]

so i guess he didn't need to use his century 1.6x for this shoot.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=55099&page=2

[ozan]

Sorry for not replying so soon. Ive been wokring as I need to pay for bills and beable to live. Once again i'll repeat myself again... i DIDNT use any 35mm adaptor!

Yes, i do own a 1.6x but rarely used it in this "FUN" project. Infact alot of those scenes never made it into this trailer and was left on the cuttgin room floor. I didnt have time to setup and use the teley lens. Its also way to nose heavy for my hands and with my crappy tripod i have... it keeps tipping forward! PLus i did alot of running around and was worry that it will fall off!

ON my next shoot i'll plan to use and play around with it to see wat kinda results i can get with it.

here are some other frame grabs from METH


http://www.ozan.ca/meth_uncompressed(00724).jpg
http://www.ozan.ca/meth_uncompressed(01040).jpg
http://www.ozan.ca/meth_uncompressed(03169).jpg
http://www.ozan.ca/meth_uncompressed(03363).jpg
http://www.ozan.ca/meth_uncompressed(03508).jpg
http://www.ozan.ca/meth_uncompressed(03531).jpg
http://www.ozan.ca/meth_uncompressed(03732).jpg

[ozan]

[url]

[jgastelb]

Mr. Biron,
Awesome work!

Can you briefly discuss the end credits of your trailer? It seems like you took them from "A Scanner Darkly." Why is that? Thanks!

Jgastelb

[ozan]

I added those in to make it the trailer complete. I needed some kinda of text to add at the end. If i added my own credits it will look lame with jst my name at the bottom sitting by its self. Im going to leave it in there for now.

[Matthew Bennett]

I'm actually leaning back towards 'possible' after intially being an unbeliever. But the babytalk language used in the first post continues to throw me back to the 'fakeside' v
every time I lread it..
After analyzing all the shots again the only non-dvx bokeh I can see is in the newcast footage, maybe that's just a trick of the eye or something.
Anyway, good job, Ozan, but indeed, what inspired you to tell this particular story? Please tell.

[zureyfa]

Did you use Magic Bullet or any kind of film look software? Or you just arrange gamma and color by yourself.

[ennfurno]

good job.looks very proffesional.its not hard to believe this was done on your own,i didn't see any difficult shots like crane shots or alot of dolly monements.but i do belive you could have gotten a little help with some of the shots from the talent.i did my first film on my own but did utilize the talent when realy needed.

[Evan S]

dude. Tomyboy... Why are you spamming your movie all over? I've seen you most multiple topics about it.

[kyle.presley]

I'd like to hear your thoughts on my short:
http://films.thelot.com/films/1101
Tom

PM the man.

[Evan S]

Well, I guess he was fake.

[twocik23]

What mic./mics were used? Awesome job btw!!!

[inspire84]

hmmm im not sure what to think, people are saying different things. Unless i missed something you still didn't say what the budget was. Just getting in a helicopter costs several hundred dollars. Locations cost a pretty penny unless you conveniently had the places you wanted. I dunno maybe it was the way you worded your original post...Almost bragging that you made sure we knew you did it by yourself...what does that say?

[c.g._eads]

This guy is a sham. He writes like a nine year old and doesn't answer any tough questions. As fifteen thousand people have already said, he still hasn't given us the budget. The helicopter shot. Mercedes. Expensive locations. Swat team stuff (I know everybody has said how they THINK he got them cheap. But HE hasn't told us how he got them cheap). Anyway, I give up.

[Northainan]

Nice work. My take on if he did it by himself or not is that he could have done it by himself. The helicopter shot could be licensed stock footage.The Mercedes shot though,he would have to have someone drive the car while he shoot. Now all of the other shots could have been setup and taken by one person.Some The DOF shots can be taken with the DVX,but the camera has to be real close (I tried it before) in which they are in this trailer. There are no real DOF shots in this trailer where a subject is more than 5 feet away. And he said used LAVS for the dialogue. With the exception of the Mercedes shot, I can see where a person can shoot this trailer by himself.

James Cameron shot one scene in The Terminator by himself with no crew. It was just him, Arnold and the PANAVISION. (lol)

[speakeasy]

that was great!

[agcohn]

Nice work. My take on if he did it by himself or not is that he could have done it by himself. The helicopter shot could be licensed stock footage.The Mercedes shot though,he would have to have someone drive the car while he shoot. Now all of the other shots could have been setup and taken by one person.Some The DOF shots can be taken with the DVX,but the camera has to be real close (I tried it before) in which they are in this trailer. There are no real DOF shots in this trailer where a subject is more than 5 feet away. And he said used LAVS for the dialogue. With the exception of the Mercedes shot, I can see where a person can shoot this trailer by himself.

James Cameron shot one scene in The Terminator by himself with no crew. It was just him, Arnold and the PANAVISION. (lol)
Doesn't the camera have to be further away to achieve DOF with the DVX100, because it has to be zoomed in all the way? To me the first shot of the trailer looks like it is using DOF (not just that the background has been blurred out because of the motion), and I don't know if it's physically possible to be that close to the subject (cameraman would have to be inside the car), and still achieve the DOF I'm seeing in the shot.

[MalcolmOng]

Well, i think its possible. A few of my friends and i pulled LOTS of friends together and we shot countdown, which is linked in my sig. And this was the first large scale production that any of us had worked on - it was virtually a first film for us...and for 16-17 year old students, i think we did ok. Its all about who you know - friend's father manages that warehouse and let us in for free, got parent's cars for free, props from previous movies, etc.

[mik]

Yes, i also think that, sure with some luck, it is possible on a low/zero budget. Maybe the helicopter shot and the swat comstumes are the most expensive thing.
For the swat, you can ask people who play soft-air or paintball; and for the helicopter; here in italy a 30 min fly can cost less than 100 Euro.

[murcott]

Im also from Vancouver and I think I recognize one of his locations. The sandy desert scene looks likes the Fraser River sandpit. Its a city district own property where they remove excessive amounts of sand from the shipping channels of the river. A few years ago I've PA'd at this location on Stargate SG1. A location manager mentioned it costs around $1,000 - $10,000 per-day to use this particular "desert" look alike location. However, it is possible to sneak in and film a few scenes without anyone knowing.

As for creating this film by himself, I personally think its a small dosage of BS to his story. Its either this guy has 8 arms or multiple clones of himself. Gotta love them clones!

my 2 cents, nice trailer though.

[Vampiresoup]

Looks nice. Poorly written. "I can't shake em!"
I totally think he could have done this on the cheap.

[kidco]

Would you mind posting up raw footage stills. With no CC.

[medianinja47]

Shame on the people on this post who don't belive everything Ozan said. Honestly, he did everything by himself with help of good professional actors he knows through work. I know him and have seen him struggling to finish the meth film in his free time. Free time, by definition, in weekends and times when he was not working. And if I tell you who has him been working with and what stuff on TV you have seen was done by him, you will know that he's as authentic as it gets. He still has my digital camera for location scout! Come on guys, leave your egos on the side and be honest about video/film making in this forum. It was shot on just a damn good old DVX100 without ANY 35 adapters BUT with years of professional film making experience. that's the key to anything, isn't it? Just close your eyes and think how much junk people or Hollywood can put out using 35mill film or HD cam or just any countless better cams than DVX with huge production budget and crew. If you are still not a believer, hey come up with a budget and hire Ozan to shoot your film ! That is, if you can afford him and if he likes your script.

VERY well done, bro. You've kept getting better and better and I am so proud of you.
neehow

[ugafan]

Shame on the people on this post who don't belive everything Ozan said. Honestly, he did everything by himself with help of good professional actors he knows through work. I know him and have seen him struggling to finish the meth film in his free time. Free time, by definition, in weekends and times when he was not working. And if I tell you who has him been working with and what stuff on TV you have seen was done by him, you will know that he's as authentic as it gets. He still has my digital camera for location scout! Come on guys, leave your egos on the side and be honest about video/film making in this forum. It was shot on just a damn good old DVX100 without ANY 35 adapters BUT with years of professional film making experience. that's the key to anything, isn't it? Just close your eyes and think how much junk people or Hollywood can put out using 35mill film or HD cam or just any countless better cams than DVX with huge production budget and crew. If you are still not a believer, hey come up with a budget and hire Ozan to shoot your film ! That is, if you can afford him and if he likes your script.

VERY well done, bro. You've kept getting better and better and I am so proud of you.
neehow

is that you, ozan?

[Northainan]

is that you, ozan?


LOL. Yeah I looked at that avatar too "JOIN DATE January 2007" LOL

[Bionicpix]

Cool trailer. In the mov I downloaded, there seems to be interlacing artifacts during movement in scenes. If you step through it, you can see those scan lines. Wondering why?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Bionicdog/meth_new2a.jpg

Would love to hear some more info on production. Maybe some behind the scenes pix.

[Teegee]

GOOD JOB!!!

I buy it, and I'd buy it!!!!

[ShamrockFilms]

Post in Quicktime 6!!!! You posted it in Quicktime 7. Or post on youtube or something bro!

I downgraded my Mac OSX after a system issue and I can't download Quicktime 7 unless I upgrade mY OS. Monopoly.

[borgkingkong]

jesus christ!!! when i read "fun" and "project" i was sure i was subjecting myself to another cringe-fest shot by a teenage mongoloid in his aunt's house. this looks truly incredible. would love to know the budget, how long it took to shoot, and the cam settings/adjustments in post. the contrast is gorgeous, DOF stunning in some shots. keep us posted.
Sorry but don't you think that's a pretty politically incorrect (and probably derogatory) thing to say and use as a reference? Nevermind the fact that the film was beautifully shot...

[MojoTrancer]

Wow this thread is getting weird. Now we have the mysterious Medianinja coming to his defense and oddly sounding just like Ozan. And still no details on anything. I still maintain that what he showed us was possible for him to do on his own, at least as a trailer. But at this point I'm done defending him. If this is all to drum up attention for something that was already very well done, then that's way too manipulative for me to even want to deal with.

I think I need to stop reading this thread before I scream.

Come to think of it, we should all just walk away from this one.

[Roadkill475]

I'll drink to that Mojo!

[c.g._eads]

I really like video! whn i put video up i no its good. I put video thru very spe-cial camra called dvx. all shts wre dun with no money and pennys on the doller. whn ppl disagree with me and myself, i dont understand. its jst me doing my bst with just me and know-one else.

somebody loan me mercedes 4 free.

[Bluewave07]

This thread is consuming my life

[borgkingkong]

seems alot of people are not convinced ozan shot it all by himself. While I am TRULY impressed by the work, I have to say I also have my doubts that he proposed he did it on his own on pennies. Kinda dangerous if you think about it since what you're doing can be misconstrued as basically misrepresenting yourself (if that is the case, if you're not then I have to apologise) can and claiming something which is not true (or not completely true).

in any case, whether or not you did it on your own or with a team, or it just dropped out of the sky as a DV file right onto your lap, it is still mighty impressive and congratulations on a job VERY WELL done on the trailer.

[Draccan]

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[Kholi]

Looks nice. Poorly written. "I can't shake em!"
I totally think he could have done this on the cheap. OMG. THE only voice of reason in this ENTIRE thread. FINALLY someone came out and said it.
What is the big deal? Go buy a Letus, play dress up with some friends and bring a good story.

PFFT. And for those of you who aren't thinking clearly--

The aerial shot didn't even HAVE to be real footage. It could've been a hi-res still from an aerial shot moved in post with a few effects over it.

Come on people... Don't get pimped by the simple.

[Indestry_Veteran]

Heyy! I am so mad at you guys! I have been working for industry in many dozens of years + shame on your selves for talking 2 ozan like that. ozan is a great great filmmaiker, like Peter Jackson and I have every belief in him that he made the movie in question? I would give all of yr selves a slap on the rist b/cause ozan made this movie all for free and with pennies. he use camera with shutter and if u don't belief him then you have bad written on your forehead. Ozan duzn't need 2 anser your questions b/cause i have every believe that he is not have to listen to the dvxuser bandwagon of meanness. Stop attacking him or I will get to angry land.

[Kholi]

Heyy! I am so mad at you guys! I have been working for industry in many dozens of years + shame on your selves for talking 2 ozan like that. ozan is a great great filmmaiker, like Peter Jackson and I have every belief in him that he made the movie in question? I would give all of yr selves a slap on the rist b/cause ozan made this movie all for free and with pennies. he use camera with shutter and if u don't belief him then you have bad written on your forehead. Ozan duzn't need 2 anser your questions b/cause i have every believe that he is not have to listen to the dvxuser bandwagon of meanness. Stop attacking him or I will get to angry land.

Now you're just being silly. I hope a mode comes about and strikes you down if you're Ozan in disguise.

Please, repeat the last three words to the Transformers theme. Thank you.

[NC17z]

Heyy! I am so mad at you guys! I have been working for industry in many dozens of years + shame on your selves for talking 2 ozan like that. ozan is a great great filmmaiker, like Peter Jackson and I have every belief in him that he made the movie in question? I would give all of yr selves a slap on the rist b/cause ozan made this movie all for free and with pennies. he use camera with shutter and if u don't belief him then you have bad written on your forehead. Ozan duzn't need 2 anser your questions b/cause i have every believe that he is not have to listen to the dvxuser bandwagon of meanness. Stop attacking him or I will get to angry land.

When I joined DVXUSER I was a bit apprehensive about asking questions in this forum at first. I think I spent 99% of my time just reading. It took me a little bit of time to build up the courage to even ask a question. I didn't even own a dvx. Since then, I have a DVX100b, have shot some video, messed around in my NLE system and have leaned on this forum for every question I have ever needed in regards to the my DVX, Audio and Editing. I am forever grateful to everyone here at this forum that has responded to my questions.
That being said, I am now a member, not a Junior Member but a Member. Its like being accepted as part of the family. I'm proud of it as well.
With all this being said, I can't be the only one that feels this way about some of these defense posts by new members that have joined this month.

WOW...!!! I feel like I a character on C.S.I. or maybe my 11 year old son. It seems so obvious.

These defense posts reads to me like Ozan himself.

Is this month (Jan 2007) the record month for Junior Members?

Would the real Ozan... Please stand up!

I do think the trailer is top notch as does allot of the members of this forum however, I feel a bit cheated, robbed... if you will...

Sometimes I wish I never read this post or saw this trailer, because I can't come close to this type of polished cinematography with spare time and pennies for a budget.

[twocik23]

Hi Ozan,

The trailer is awesome, from the sound to the shots, very very nice job. Now I've seen a few mistakes in your trailer,

- Interlacing.

- Guy passing a window mid way, walking from right to left. ( you can see yourself in the window, not much, but I caught it)

-------------------------

Now there's been alot of controversy on your trailer about a using a 35mm adapter.

What I've seen is,

Vignetting in a few (sky, a couple of shots in rooms, road, etc.).

Now what's got me questioning is if you did or if you used something like a macro, wide lens, etc. is the smearing on a couple of shots (pill boxes), and chromatic aberration.


Besides all of the controversy and criticism, I thought it was very well put together, with or without an adapter. NICE JOB and good luck with your film!!!



My question still stands, curious to what mics were used?

[ProjX v2.0]

Wow. I don't know what's more spectacular, the trailer or some people's reactions?

Ozan has posted some killer work here in the past and he's definitely got skills.

Footage looks like it was shot with a DVX. Sound mix was finalized by someone else. This could entirely be done for pennies by one person if you have talent and know all the right people.

So what's the problem here?

[Alecks Purifoy]

Thats awesome.

[NeverColdCall]

I buy his story. I've been experimenting with DOF and what you saw in the trailer is a piece of cake if you zoom all the way in on shots (and use a good tripod to avoid movement0. Same with actors, a couple of friends of mine, who I know through my girlfriend's job, are professional actors who are in the new Jamie Foxx movie coming out - and they had real roles, not just extras. In fact I'm going to use them for mock scenes in a new sales training video I'm doing - they'll be playing sales reps trying to sell me.

This is definitely 100% possible without a huge budget, just a few friends in the right places as I have.

[westcoast]

I know Ozan, he does freelance camera for me sometimes.
I was one of the friends that he would send test edits to, so I'm familiar with the Meth project.

First off, Ozan is a talented director, I think we all can agree on that.
He's already getting bites from some production houses because of Meth.

He does about four specs a year, so he's pretty solid behind the DVX.
The thing that really impressed me, aside from his natural ability to shoot and edit, was how little resources he has to work with.
I've frequently seen jobs 100x the budget that dont turn out as well.

Here's the facts....
-His budget was around $900 CDN.
-SWAT uniforms were from a North Van company called Phoenix, and they're left-overs from an xmen3 shoot... so they were loaned to him.
-Ozan films for a Vancouver car drifting club, so he has lots of friends with fast cars who want to be filmed drifting for free ie:the black Merc.
-He didn't use a 35mm adapter.
-Helijet airways flies all over the lower-mainland like public transit, you just buy a ticket and film out the window.
-Vancouver is a major film hub, and has a very large percentage of hungry actors willing to work for free to build their reels.
Filmmakers can post an ad, and literally get hundreds of responses.
-He shot, edited, and did all the post by himself.... sound design was credited to someone else.
-The sand dunes are in Richmond BC, and are open to the public.... although they require permits to shoot big jobs.
-Most impressive thing to me was how he got into a small container yard for free... very tough post 9-11.
He was denied by about ten yards until he found a smaller yard that would let him shoot during some off-hours.
-Interiors are all properly balanced/exposed available light. Most are Ozan's friend's offices... the chief's office is mine.

Nice job Ozan, bright future ahead of you.

[Kholi]

Wtf is up with all of the 2007 join dates in this thread? No credibility, I'm sorry.

Nice LOOKING trailer, glad you could do it for next-to-nothing. most everyone here could do the same iif they actually put as much effort into it. That said, let's stop with the new join dates. Makes this entire thing seem super fishy, and superficial.

[c.g._eads]

Oh my God. Ozan's dad has now joined DVXUser.

What I want to know, is how Ozan's dad knows more about the movie than Ozan does.

[novelt]

Okay wow made it through 13 pages of disbelief and shock...

my opinion...the DVX footage would look great in the hands of a capable cinematographer...nuff said.

as for props and locations...i can easily get my hands on a rolls-royce bentley for free. it belongs to a friend. guns and swat stuff i have a few friends that work law enforcement. one is a DEA agent. so i could get real guns with blanks and authentic uniforms - the only thing i couldn't use would be the badges. those need to be fake or if they are real then an actual officer needs tobe in the uniform - that's just local law (if not state).

as for locations myself and people i know have gotten mansions, hospitals, the airport...all for free by either putting someone in their movie, providing some form of commercial advertisment, offering to shoot commerical ads, or just asking and the people saying "yeah sure"

heck the real problem with this "trailer" is that it's over 2 minutes and there's credits. out of all the nitpicking going on here...whether it was DVX or an ARRI the trailer is too long and there's credits...who rolls credits on a trailer??????

[Kholi]

Okay wow made it through 13 pages of disbelief and shock...

my opinion...the DVX footage would look great in the hands of a capable cinematographer...nuff said.

as for props and locations...i can easily get my hands on a rolls-royce bentley for free. it belongs to a friend. guns and swat stuff i have a few friends that work law enforcement. one is a DEA agent. so i could get real guns with blanks and authentic uniforms - the only thing i couldn't use would be the badges. those need to be fake or if they are real then an actual officer needs tobe in the uniform - that's just local law (if not state).

as for locations myself and people i know have gotten mansions, hospitals, the airport...all for free by either putting someone in their movie, providing some form of commercial advertisment, offering to shoot commerical ads, or just asking and the people saying "yeah sure"

heck the real problem with this "trailer" is that it's over 2 minutes and there's credits. out of all the nitpicking going on here...whether it was DVX or an ARRI the trailer is too long and there's credits...who rolls credits on a trailer??????

Seriously, though. Everyone's totally concerned with the WRONG thing. Anyone who takes their time to do it right can pull this off. Thing is, people want to rush things.

Sheesh.

[c.g._eads]

what is this thread about again?

I've completely forgotten.

[westcoast]

Seriously, though. Everyone's totally concerned with the WRONG thing. Anyone who takes their time to do it right can pull this off. Thing is, people want to rush things.

Sheesh.
Enough talk.
post your directors reel, and let us decide if you can pull it off.

[Kholi]

Enough talk.
post your directors reel, and let us decide if you can pull it off.'

Sorry, I don't leap head-first into a production bent on a poor, under-developed script. I currently spend my time in Final Draft, where your friend should be after hearing the dialogue in this [neat looking] trailer; that's what WRITERS do.

Edit: But, enough of that. I'm out of this thread. Good luck.

[c.g._eads]

I have it on good faith that Ozan and his father actually shot this movie in-camera and did not use any editing software.

[slinks]

dot.

[phazelee]

I have to agree, I believe Ozan did this with his amazing talent.

If you read Ozan's old post, he does a lot of research on the dvx100.
On one of his thread, he asked how to get the T.V distortion with after effects, he used that in that trailer he made.

Just read his old posts
Good job Ozan

[Derrick_SA]

Hi there,

I think this was possible to pull off over time with limited resources. Job well done.

The sound Quality is awesome, and I think the good sound also helps the visuals look very pro. Like they say sound is half your picture.

- Derrick

[Spinflight]

If you really study the video, you'll see that it's the post work that's really surprised us all. Editing, aspect ratio, sound design and color corection. Meaning, it's visual story telling done right.
Whether it's a DVX or HVX I'm not quite sure, but it's definitely the stock lens. Using an adapter has too many tell tale signs that don't seem to show up in any of the footage. Unless he happened to get a revolutionary new one that's super sharp and clear. His zooming back and forth is a stock lens zoom, not from an adapter.

To pull this off by himself, it seems he would have to keep the camera as inconspicuous as possible as to not attract too much attention. As indie film makers, we're all trying to make films for no money. It just looks like Ozan just raised the bar. I think I read a post where someone challenged his intellect. Sometimes the really smart ones are the ones telling others it can't be done, while the "dumb" ones just go out and do because they don't know it can't be done.

I think after watching this, we have a lot of homework to do. Ozan, thanks for the inspiration. No matter how you pulled it off.

[c.g._eads]

Sometimes the really smart ones are the ones telling others it can't be done, while the "dumb" ones just go out and do because they don't know it can't be done.

I think this is actually the truest thing ever said.

[Evan S]

Everyone in this thread must be Ozan. Even me.

[cruiserkernan]

Isn't it strange that he says that he used 24p in this trailer, but there's still interlacing problems...?

[William_Robinette]

Depending on import/export there could be interlacing. Remember that it still a 60i stream on tape, esp 24p (not pA).

Nice trailer!

[borgkingkong]

ALL of us want it to be true. We all want to believe it can be done the way Ozan did it. But some of us are a little skeptical because we do not want to be made a fool... and lied to and have our dreams shattered. That's why this thread is, and Ozan's work is so controversial.

[Spinflight]

Isn't it strange that he says that he used 24p in this trailer, but there's still interlacing problems...?

That's just from exporting the quicktime file. You can clearly see the trailer was shot progressive.

Whether this trailer cost 2 cents or 2 million dollars is irrelevant to me. Whether he shot it by himself or not, I don't care. The fact that he showed you don't need Hollywood's team of geniuses to make a movie is what excites me about watching this.

These are the facts: A. a small camera of some sort was used. B. Actors were used. C. Locations were used. Stir them all in a pot and trust me, it's going to come off everyones' stoves a little differently. Ozan seems to have won top chef on this one. We can ask camera settings all day. Won't matter.

I don't know this young man personally but I sure as heck took notes. Talent is talent no matter how you slice it. Whether he was at the helm and had a huge team of talented people working for him or otherwise, he got results we're all striving for. We just have to ask ourselves now that we know it's possible to make something amazing, are we going to settle for mediocrity or make our next project just as good if not better than what we just saw. We all have the tools. What we do with them is a whole other story.

[c.g._eads]

Who's Ozan?

[slinks]

Isn't it strange that he says that he used 24p in this trailer, but there's still interlacing problems...?

i sometimes get interlaced artifacting once in a while in my 24p and 24pa footage. sometimes ois or something else.

[Northainan]

....... Talent is talent no matter how you slice it. Whether he was at the helm and had a huge team of talented people working for him or otherwise, he got results we're all striving for......
Thumbs up!:smiley_up

You are so right because, talented people make hard things look easy;Where average people make easy tasks look difficult. I have seen it all my life where talented people just execute with ease through projects. Some people got it and some people don't. Just because some people can put a tape in the camera and press the record button and yell action does not mean they are gifted.
And judging from all the responses to Ozan's footage since he's been a member of this forum,people were blown away,awed and amazed at his footage that he posted in the past. Ozan,Broken2005(Alex Ferrari) and Ronco(sp) have demonstrated what the DVX100 series cameras' are capable of in talented hands.

On Ozan trailer's METH, you got to respect his vision and his EYE for framing and pacing.

[murcott]

Looks like there was some activity on the front page of this thread. I just finished looking threw the posted frame stills. WOW, can the DVX really produce these images? The quailty is amazing, look at image 5458 - is that even possible?

Seriously, if the DVX can truely produce these images then I definitely made the right choice purchasing my friends old DVX100! This gets me excited!!!!!!!!!!!

[novelt]

this may not help, but he has a gregor phillips listed for the sound...this might be the same guy...

Gregor Phillips - MySpace (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=32884775)

for those that dare send him a PM and see if he worked on Meth...i doubt ozan is filling up myspace with alternate IDs :)

[E_D_N]

That's just from exporting the quicktime file. You can clearly see the trailer was shot progressive.

Whether this trailer cost 2 cents or 2 million dollars is irrelevant to me. Whether he shot it by himself or not, I don't care. The fact that he showed you don't need Hollywood's team of geniuses to make a movie is what excites me about watching this.

These are the facts: A. a small camera of some sort was used. B. Actors were used. C. Locations were used. Stir them all in a pot and trust me, it's going to come off everyones' stoves a little differently. Ozan seems to have won top chef on this one. We can ask camera settings all day. Won't matter.

I don't know this young man personally but I sure as heck took notes. Talent is talent no matter how you slice it. Whether he was at the helm and had a huge team of talented people working for him or otherwise, he got results we're all striving for. We just have to ask ourselves now that we know it's possible to make something amazing, are we going to settle for mediocrity or make our next project just as good if not better than what we just saw. We all have the tools. What we do with them is a whole other story.



Very well said.


And I can't believe some of the posts on this topic.

Shame on some of you here (you know who you are) who just cannot accept that this guy came up with such beautiful footage.

Jealousy.

They realize they don't have an ounce of the guy's talent and attack him when they should heap praises on him for the work he's done.

If anything, this, just like the amazing HVX footage from ILLEGAL, should inspire all of us to do better on our next projects.

I know I have been inspired.

And I couldn't care less how much it was made for. I liked what I saw and that's all that matters.

[slinks]

do you concur? I sure do.

[twocik23]

Alright lets leave the guy alone, and shoot some footage!!!

[frmain]

Jee why is everybody bitching about the Mercedes? I know plenty of people with flashy cars and if they didn't care much about insurance they'd lend it to me. Heck my dad has a mercedes CLK, would you call me a liar if I did a no budget shoot and the car happened to be in it? I'm not saying the guy is innocent because let's face it, I have no way of finding any proof. However...

When you mention you're making a film project to people, they get excited. Especially guys. Young guys. If you notice in the film, mostly young men, having fun, working for nothing most likely. People want to help out. You borrow stuff that you usually couldn't get because friends and family get amped up about the final product. It's really not -that- inconceivable.

And we edited a 30 minute film in a month and a half working part time. So 6-7 months for shooting and editing...well that seems gosh darned reasonable to me. Besides, you guys are judging from the trailer, how do you even know whether the rest of the film holds up? If you shoot say, 3 hours of footage, you're going to find some nice footage to beef out a 1 minute trailer!

I just think it's unfair that people instantly assume a little creativity is all fake. I'd love to see some photos from on set but if he was the only crew member, that's not going to happen.

And lastly...some people here don't seem to have used the DVX....because they seem to assume if it doesn't have an adapter on it, it won't look as good as it does here..to which i say, what the hell???

edit: and i'm sure some of that is stock footage..if its not stock then that's where I get suspicious

[Brandon Rice]

Ok. I am not going to bring this down, but let me say, it's not the BEST DVX footage I've ever seen. It is good. The color grading is VERY good, your skill is shown there for sure. Looks like a cross between Traffic and Man on Fire. Give us some info on stuff... what'd you do for lighting? I am assuming just some reflector's outside, plus your mad color grading skills really makes this pop. But, it's decent DVX footage with amazing color grading. :)

[phazelee]

I am loving the new website

[ShamrockFilms]

I'm not going to tenderize your a$$hole because you already know you're good. I just wanted to say nice job. Good luck with the pilot.

[Nathyn]

Yep. America, this is how it's done. In my life I've shot two grade B features on very small budgets, but the fact is yes, you need actors, yes you need locations, yes you need talent and yes you will have to shell out some cash or have massive resources or both. Keep in mind this is just a trailer, we don't know how the movie looks, but the key here is trailers sale movies. I want to see this. He made me want to see this. For now his job is done.

I don't see how anyone could have anything negative to say about this. The fact you have a speeding car anywhere in your movie seem to make it look like you've spent some money on it. The locations were somewhat standard but for the plot it's what we're used to, the acting was good, the sound and action was superb. This was shot on the DVX. Put this on TV and see who knows the difference. If this cat wasn't in this forum showcasing this I wouldn't know and neither would many of us.

People thought I shot my first film on a few thousand dollars. Truth is we had under a $1000. My first film wasn't great, but the fact someone thought I had spent more then I did says something to me. My question is how much does it look like he spent on that trailer. A lot. Does it make you want to see it? Yes. I would buy or rent this.
Case closed.

This guy is a sham. He writes like a nine year old and doesn't answer any tough questions. As fifteen thousand people have already said, he still hasn't given us the budget. The helicopter shot. Mercedes. Expensive locations. Swat team stuff (I know everybody has said how they THINK he got them cheap. But HE hasn't told us how he got them cheap). Anyway, I give up.
Dude I had a bunch of guys in mask with guns, plus I had expensive locations (cost me $100 for the day but it was actually an expensive house not to mention I shot in a model's condo for free). Honestly he could've pulled this all off for $1000. Trust me, many of us are kings of low budget. You spend the money where you need it, helicopter shot cost big, cut corners elsewhere but don't make it seem as if you did. Also if you look at the trailer everything is fast cuts and tightshots. Not to mention I believe the SWAT team was shot from several different angles and used twice and they're using Airsoft guns. Not saying this was done on a low budget but it can be with planning.


-Nate

[ugafan]

A recap of the "facts"...

1. Movie was shot in his spare time for fun.
2. Budget was just mere pennies.
3. No adapter was used, just the stock lens.
4. Directing, shooting, editing, lighting, and sound were all done by one person. (later he added that someone else actually did the music.)
5. He doesn't have enough money to buy equipment like an adapter. (well another adapter anyway. the one he has he didn't use on this shoot).
6. Achieved his look by setting all the presets to zero. Then just did everything in post.
7. The sound for most of the action was the mic on the dvx.
8. Used some old lavs for dialogue.
9. Got his actors through a normal casting session. (even though he didnt have money to pay them).
10. Achieved DOF by just zooming in.
11. Added credits he borrowed from another movie.

[Brandon Rice]

A recap of the "facts"...

1. Movie was shot in his spare time for fun.
2. Budget was just mere pennies.
3. No adapter was used, just the stock lens.
4. Directing, shooting, editing, lighting, and sound were all done by one person. (later he added that someone else actually did the music.)
5. He doesn't have enough money to buy equipment like an adapter. (well another adapter anyway. the one he has he didn't use on this shoot).
6. Achieved his look by setting all the presets to zero. Then just did everything in post.
7. The sound for most of the action was the mic on the dvx.
8. Used some old lavs for dialogue.
9. Got his actors through a normal casting session. (even though he didnt have money to pay them).
10. Achieved DOF by just zooming in.
11. Added credits he borrowed from another movie.


Yeah, some of the music is from the movie "The Island"

Shot in spare time 'just for fun' seriously? hm.

Yeah, shooting flat settings with the DVX and workin' it in post is the WAY to go, IMHO! :)

[Nathyn]

A recap of the "facts"...

1. Movie was shot in his spare time for fun.
So was my first feature.

2. Budget was just mere pennies.
What do you consider pennies? $500 - $1000 is pennies in filmmaking.

3. No adapter was used, just the stock lens.
Never use an adapter and can rack focus and all that good stuff.

4. Directing, shooting, editing, lighting, and sound were all done by one person. (later he added that someone else actually did the music.)
He didn't have to say that. I hand stuff off to other too to do the mustic.

5. He doesn't have enough money to buy equipment like an adapter. (well another adapter anyway. the one he has he didn't use on this shoot).
You can shoot this with the money you spend on an adapter.

6. Achieved his look by setting all the presets to zero. Then just did everything in post.
No impossible. He did it all in post.

7. The sound for most of the action was the mic on the dvx.
You really doubt what the DVX is capable of. I've shot night scenes with no light but what's the street. It's a more than capable camera and the sound it very much professional quality. It can be done.

8. Used some old lavs for dialogue.
Old lavs don't work? What's so impossible?

9. Got his actors through a normal casting session. (even though he didnt have money to pay them).
People do it all the time. I shot my whole first film this way and most of my new one like this, but I did have to pay the main actors as they were professionals.

10. Achieved DOF by just zooming in.
Not hard to do.

11. Added credits he borrowed from another movie.
Again not hard amazing or impossible. Again he could be lying his butt off but it's not impossible.

-Nate

[frmain]

" 9. Got his actors through a normal casting session. (even though he didnt have money to pay them)."

That's not true - he said he already knew a lot of the actors and just called them into what was otherwise a normal casting session...he explained to them what he wanted to do and they thought it was a good idea so they signed on. Besides, there are actors EVERYWHERE. I see them walking through the streets like zombies at night. Poor lambs.

[Noel Evans]

I cant believe I wasted my time reading all the replies and just didnt jump to my response.

Well edited trailer thats for sure. Did the right thing getting someone to tighten up the sound, it sounds great. Nice pick up on the island music Brandon. I think Kholi mentioned the dialogue in some parts already.

This DOF is acheivable with the DVX, room to zoom and solid lighting (I didnt say expensive) just well positioned and thought out. Couple of shots werent perfect, like the girl near the start, image was flat and not well composed. But for the most part it was tight.
The helicopter shot? I noticed there was no externals on the shot, could have been on the ground, the fly over seemed like a still.

Anyway great job. Got lucky on some good locations, always a bonus! :)

[b boy]

i really love it. I'm looking for some movie sounds like that's. can you tell me how to hook up with someone who do sound effects like that

[agcohn]

Very well said.


And I can't believe some of the posts on this topic.

Shame on some of you here (you know who you are) who just cannot accept that this guy came up with such beautiful footage.

Jealousy.

They realize they don't have an ounce of the guy's talent and attack him when they should heap praises on him for the work he's done.

If anything, this, just like the amazing HVX footage from ILLEGAL, should inspire all of us to do better on our next projects.

I know I have been inspired.

And I couldn't care less how much it was made for. I liked what I saw and that's all that matters.
Nobody came into the thread looking to trash the guy for his work. Read the first few pages, and you'll see that everybody was gushing over the trailer at first. The naysaing came about when people started asking Ozan questions, and he responded by skipping around most of the questions. That's when people started doubted that it was actually his work.

I believe that he did film it. It looks professional, but not to the extent that I would say that it is impossible to shoot on the DVX. However, based on Ozan's unprofessional responses to peoples' questions I can easily understand why people started to turn against him.

You say "shame on them" for not believing in his work, when they all did believe it at first. It was only when Ozan started treating the people with questions like a bunch of assholes that they started to doubt that it was his work.

[Bionicpix]

Nobody came into the thread looking to trash the guy for his work. However, based on Ozan's unprofessional responses to peoples' questions I can easily understand why people started to turn against him. I agree. I come here for info AND to share info. 2 way street.:happy:

[Brandon Rice]

This is not very difficult to do with the DVX. Nope.

[Spinflight]

This thread itself has become a psycological thiller. What's coming next? Anyone filming all of this? Ozan seems to have gotten us all hooked. We're like little kids in a candy store. He's a genius. This is how you'd want everyone to talk about your movie.
He keeps you coming back for more, even with his silence. Now that's marketing.

[FutureDVXUser]

Ahh, I finally saw it on YouTube... It looks a little like a commercial for severeal different products... It looks interesting...

[murcott]

Ahh, I finally saw it on YouTube... It looks a little like a commercial for severeal different products... It looks interesting...
The only products I can see is Mercedes and Methamphetamines. Maybe he some how convinced Mercedes Canada to sponsor him. Product placement!

Its a very interesting topic he has chosen for his film. He might have been influanced from Vancouver's own growing problem of meth-labs. Its usually on the news everyother day here in Vancouver. Found some interesting facts on wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine

Does anyone know how i can save the file onto my computer?

[hammer smashface]

one word ---"Outstanding!"

[Craig T]

Totally amazing! I can relate to the love hate thing with your film. I've gone through it myself. I'm interested how you did the sound. Did your sound guy use royalty free loops or have something made special. I've done a couple of shorts without music.
Again my compliments! Inspirational! - Craig

[c.g._eads]

Craig, I'll answer your question because The Ozan won't. Do not ever expect The Ozan to answer questions. How naive of you.

However, in the spirit of The Ozan, I will answer the way he would... Are you ready?

"I give my sound guy Gregry Fillips many different video . He say to me "What this?" So I then put on him lav mic and film in White House building for free. The key is to have small camera and be friends with president. Which I am. lol. btw, I hate 35mm adapter but own one."

So, there you have it. Absolutely none of your questions answered and a response that confuses you more now than before you read it. Welcome to this thread, aka Bizarro Land.

[AshG]

Pretty clear what we have here, a bunch of people who are jealous. Just because YOU dont have the talent or connections to make something like this happen doesnt mean Ozan doesnt. Funny, when people see something from someone in a similar position as them that is WAY better than what they can do, they excuse it to money, adapters, etc. Bottom line, the kid is more talented and more resourceful than you. Get over it.

There is nothing in this trailer that you cant pull off with drive, passion and exploiting resources, NOTHING. Most of us just wouldnt take the time or have the patience to spend a week chasing down a single shot.

Also, this guy has posted over at DVinfo before and shown very impressive car stuff. I remember it, same drill, summer fun project, dynamic car stuff, very well shot AND THAT WAS OVER THREE YEARS AGO!

So, to all you jealous hacks...I say...go make your b-rate zombie flicks and fade into oblivion and irrelevance... this kind of work should give you hope, not hate.

Good job on the production Ozan, you just need to find a writer and get access to some better talent (most were pretty good) and you will be well on your way.




ash =o)

[ShamrockFilms]

Pretty clear what we have here, a bunch of people who are jealous. Just because YOU dont have the talent or connections to make something like this happen doesnt mean Ozan doesnt. Funny, when people see something from someone in a similar position as them that is WAY better than what they can do, they excuse it to money, adapters, etc. Bottom line, the kid is more talented and more resourceful than you. Get over it.

There is nothing in this trailer that you cant pull off with drive, passion and exploiting resources, NOTHING. Most of us just wouldnt take the time or have the patience to spend a week chasing down a single shot.

Also, this guy has posted over at DVinfo before and shown very impressive car stuff. I remember it, same drill, summer fun project, dynamic car stuff, very well shot AND THAT WAS OVER THREE YEARS AGO!

So, to all you jealous hacks...I say...go make your b-rate zombie flicks and fade into oblivion and irrelevance... this kind of work should give you hope, not hate.

Good job on the production Ozan, you just need to find a writer and get access to some better talent (most were pretty good) and you will be well on your way.




ash =o)
The kid has talent and he's not wasting it. That trailer gives me a big giant woody. Not just cause it was well shot and edited, but because the DVX100 is the bomb. I'd act in any of Ozan's movies, D-list actors or not. :cheesy:

[slinks]

the only thing I DO know is that I intend to eventually make even better work. Just watching this trailer motivated me whether he spent a lot of money or not. I really don't mind if he doesn't share all his info, just showing me the trailer and saying its a dvx is good enough for me. Of course i wouldn't mind stealing some tips but eh, what do u really expect? I take what I can get. Thats just what I personally feel anyways.

[AshG]

That is a good point, why should he have to defend or explain how he got every shot? Location? Prop? etc.?



ash =o)

[Noel Evans]

"I give my sound guy Gregry Fillips many different video . He say to me "What this?" So I then put on him lav mic and film in White House building for free. The key is to have small camera and be friends with president. Which I am. lol. btw, I hate 35mm adapter but own one."

So, there you have it. Absolutely none of your questions answered and a response that confuses you more now than before you read it. Welcome to this thread, aka Bizarro Land.

LOL nice quote, have to admit that confused the hell out of me. Hence why I said why did I bother... should have just commented.

[ugafan]

i'm not saying he didn't do the trailer. he very well may have, i don't know the guy.

what i am saying is that he didn't do it as he describes in his post. for all you people saying you can reproduce these results then go ahead and prove it.

post your footage that compares.

[E_D_N]

Pretty clear what we have here, a bunch of people who are jealous. Just because YOU dont have the talent or connections to make something like this happen doesnt mean Ozan doesnt. Funny, when people see something from someone in a similar position as them that is WAY better than what they can do, they excuse it to money, adapters, etc. Bottom line, the kid is more talented and more resourceful than you. Get over it.

There is nothing in this trailer that you cant pull off with drive, passion and exploiting resources, NOTHING. Most of us just wouldnt take the time or have the patience to spend a week chasing down a single shot.

Also, this guy has posted over at DVinfo before and shown very impressive car stuff. I remember it, same drill, summer fun project, dynamic car stuff, very well shot AND THAT WAS OVER THREE YEARS AGO!

So, to all you jealous hacks...I say...go make your b-rate zombie flicks and fade into oblivion and irrelevance... this kind of work should give you hope, not hate.

Good job on the production Ozan, you just need to find a writer and get access to some better talent (most were pretty good) and you will be well on your way.




ash =o)


BRAVO!!!!


and yes, seen WAY too many "b-rate zombie flick" trailers on this forum...

[Jay Rodriguez]

I see a bunch of haters in this thread. What a shame......

This is just about the best piece that I've seen on this site , besides mcgregors's stuff. I'd love to see any of you hating hacks pull a portion of this off.

[Brandon Rice]

I see a bunch of haters in this thread. What a shame......

This is just about the best piece that I've seen on this site , besides mcgregors's stuff. I'd love to see any of you hating hacks pull a portion of this off.

I ain't hatin' broha. Just think it's not TOO hard to replicate this... the footage matches the feel of the content... good color grading, nuff said :) :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

And for the record... Mac's stuff is way way above this... IMHO.

[Jared Meyer]

Just think it's not TOO hard to replicate this...
Please do.

Seriously, let's give the guy credit for being talented. Not many people here can pull off what he did. Folks shouldn't feel the need to diminish what he has created. And if you feel the need to do so anyway, you better be prepared to show that you can do better.

[spidey]

becuase some people dont see their faults... this a good example of some one who knows what they are doing congrats.

PS this is is a stupid thread.

[ShamrockFilms]

Where can I peak mcgregors's vidz?

[Jay Rodriguez]

I see you aren't reading me right. My point is that it's not hard to do what he did, you just have to be talented and creative enough to do it. I read alot of posts arguing that there's no way he did it by himself, that imo is just bs. It's VERY possible to do it.

And for what record Brandon? I love mac's stuff, you've never heard me state otherwise but I wouldn't say mac's stuff is "way way above" what this dude's trailer is. It looks just as good as the stuff that mac shot on the DVX.

[Kholi]

I said I'd leave the thread, but it's so controversial.

For the record, my posts were in his defense and the fact that TAKING YOUR FREAKING TIME is what garnered such a great looking trailer. I, personally, am not interested in the content... but there is no denying that the image is pretty freaking good.

Austere, it's not that creating such great imagery from the DVX is hard. By no means is it, it's that TAKING YOUR FREAKING TIME isn't easy. Everyone wants to rush out and "just do it", like the world's going to crumble tomorrow. Everyone wants to wing it on a crappy half-assed script and not take the time to write write and write. Or settle for their bedroom instead of getting out there and hunting for a better location.

Ozan shouldn't be accosted for his great looking work. Like AshG said, he just needs a writer on his material and he's golden.

I, personally, wasn't hating on the trailer even though it did nothing to interest me beyond technical achievements. Because, it really does excel above a HOST of work here on DVXuser.

Proof that time = money, cause doesn't this look like a few hundred grand? TAKE YOUR TIME PEOPLE SHEESH.

[Jay Rodriguez]

Well said Kholi. Well said. The trailer does look like a well indie budgeted film. The story has the potential to be a deep meaningful story too but the biggest wow factor for me was that the tthing was shot on a DVX with limited/no crew. I know this is easily achievable with time because I've done it. Granted, mine was a boring drama about some chicks and not an action film but the point is that it's possible and not impossible. lol

[Brandon Rice]

5 min. CC job on some old footage.

www.noaricedigital.com/roughexample.mov

Again... great work done here... not poopooing it... just saying it's not as AMAZING to get the results as people have said... I'd agree with Kholi's post!

[spidey]

lol what was that from LMAO

[Brandon Rice]

hehe :) a feature comedy I shot couple years ago... still not out yet.

[the_bully]

5 min. CC job on some old footage.

www.noaricedigital.com/roughexample.mov

Again... great work done here... not poopooing it... just saying it's not as AMAZING to get the results as people have said... I'd agree with Kholi's post!


You can't be serious that this footage looks as good as the Meth trailer?

I never post, but this thread even brought me out. If this work isn't as AMAIZING as I think it is then why don't we see footage better then it in this forum. This is the best dvx trailer I've seen here. Can anyone point me to something better?

For all the people that are posting negative comments, please post a link to something better that you've done.

[Jay Rodriguez]

You can't be serious that this footage looks as good as the Meth trailer?

I got love for you Brandon but I agree with that statement.

[Jay Rodriguez]

Where can I peak mcgregors's vidz?


http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=4618

[spidey]

lol i know i laughed when i saw the cc and then the substance lol

[c.g._eads]

*whisper*

I have heard that soon...

very soon...

The Ozan will speak.

shhhhhhhh

[Jay Rodriguez]

lol, that's funny.

[ShamrockFilms]

For all the people that are posting negative comments, please post a link to something better that you've done.

I second that! Someone should have post this on page 1.

[phazelee]

Here you go guys

It is not a trailer, but a music video.
By 'RICH LEE" from this dvxuser forum
http://www.rich-lee.com/BFJLY.mov

[capitalP]

I saw the trailer and I think it's bery doable on a $1000 budget and possibly with a one man crew, but the one man crew thing is the only thing I think maybe a bit exagerated. I guess it is possible if everyshot is done hand held with no boom.

But to answer the question about other great work on here, I've seen work from the Broken guys that look good and also The Ore(but I think that was HVX).

ANyway, not taking anything away from the guy, the trailer looks good, it's very doable if you take your time and know tons and tons of people to get hook ups. But a 1 MAN CREW!....

[Brandon Rice]

Ok... bottom line. HERE IS THE THING....
Would the look of "Meth" be good for a kid's film? NO. Would the look of a kid's show be good for "Meth"? NO. The key is knowing the look you want, and achieving it. This guy did a GREAT job getting the right look, and he also did a great job with the presentation and editing. Slick work. Again, better or worse looking footage must be judged on the purpose of the content :)

[ShamrockFilms]

The whole thing is THIS and only this.

Ozan posted he "did it for Fun" which EXTREMELY INSULTING to everyone here that busts their butts for 8-12 months full time on a project. "Fun" is something you do in one or two days.

AND most of all his over-statement that he "did it all by himself". That is a MAJOR insult to his actors, extras and everyone else that helped him along the way. Nobody does it by themselves. Did he act in the film too? NO. It's a big time arrogant thing to post and that is way he's getting so much $hit here (but of course he covered his butt in a post after that thanking the actors, but by then it was too late).

If he just wrote "hey guys, I worked really hard on this for 8 months and a lot of great people helped me along the way, but we finally go there" nobody would have busted his balls. If you ask me, he deserved it, no matter how good he is.

[spidey]

maybe he did or didnt. ps who cares.

[Kholi]

The whole thing is THIS and only this.

Ozan posted he "did it for Fun" which EXTREMELY INSULTING to everyone that busts their butts for 8-12 months full time on a project. "Fun" is something you do in one or two days.

AND most of all his over-statement that he "did it all by himself". That is a MAJOR insult to his actors, extras and everyone else that helped him along the way. Nobody does it by themselves. Did he act in the film too? NO. It's a big time arrogant thing to say and that is way he's getting so much $hit here.

If he just wrote "hey guys, I worked really hard on this for 8 months and a lot of great people helped me along the way, but we finally go there" nobody would have busted his balls. If you ask me, he deserved it, no matter how good he is.

Oooooh Ozan just got served.

And what do I bandy about this site all the time? "it's about HOW you say it."

[Brandon Rice]

Word... good post Shamrock.

[Luis Caffesse]

Well - all I know is... I just watched a really good trailer.
And you know what?
At the end of the day - no one sitting in the audience cares whether there were 2 people or 2,000 people behind the camera - and they don't care if you shot it in your spare time, or full time, or if it cost $10 or $10 million.

People just want to see something cool
And this trailer was cool.

When it's all said and done - that's all that should matter.
Just my 2 cents.

[Edgen]

Good grief.. There just goes 45 minutes of my life reading this entire thread. :)

The Meth Trailer... I thought it was great. I have no reason not to believe he did this on his own. (not on his own really...cast, post, help, favors, etc.). Pennies... Could easily be $500 bucks. Spanned over 2 years?... That's like 2 weeks of a parttime job paycheck. I'd rather spend money on making a trailer for 'fun' than blow it on some dumbass pay-per-view TV episode, or new shoes.. or a trip to Vegas... or a few crates of gumballs.. or ...

To some people.. Pennies could be $2000-4000. If you think about it, In the grand scheme of Million dollar budget of major movies these days, it's all subjective.

Music and sound design friggin' rocked!
Kudos and best of luck to your future.

/j

[slinks]

Here you go guys

It is not a trailer, but a music video.
By 'RICH LEE" from this dvxuser forum
http://www.rich-lee.com/BFJLY.mov

yes rich lee has work i still look up to till now. That is one of the 1st videos that got me pumped. I still strive to achieve footage like that.
macgregor also has some work that I have looked up to but most of his work is HVX though right?

As for OZAN's trailer, I'm not saying its the BEST LOOKING footage but the execution for the trailer itself is what I admire the most.

when I see good looking footage coming from the same type of camera I use, 1st I get jealous, then I get mad at myself for my lack of skill, then I vow to be able to produce equal if not better work than that. LOL

I think everyone needs to stop arguing over something that really isn't something worth getting heated up about. Most of the discussions here are also based on assumptions. I do believe Ozan could have conducted himself better but eh whatevers, it didn't really offend me. He really didn't insult anyone or do anything that disrespectful besides withholding information. The whole different credits thing in the 1st trailer was kinda wierd tho.

well, I'm gonna go work on pre-production on my next work. Time to grind!

[lostglove]

I never post but I am loving this thread too much not to.
Maybe he did it solo maybe not. What is undisputable is that Ozan (or "the O-Dog" as I like to call him) definitely did not pay his "actors". WOW. You can still see the lines on the script when the words come out of their mouths.

[J.R. Hudson]

What is the hub bub all about crying foul ?

Looks great ! Well done ! I really enjoyed this!

[novelt]

this won't matter...this is now the second most viewed thread and why it's mostly arguments. nothing constructive is going on here and seriously very little support. maybe the name of this forum should be DVXAbuser...i kid, i kid!!! :)

[AshG]

Here you go guys

It is not a trailer, but a music video.
By 'RICH LEE" from this dvxuser forum
http://www.rich-lee.com/BFJLY.mov



Rich is great but he is pretty "in" he has done pre-viz for 250 million dollar movies.



ash =o)

[Jay Rodriguez]

ShamrockFilms, good point...

[c.g._eads]

I'm starting to believe that The Ozan may be God. Since he does not ever show himself, we must believe in him... only on faith.

And for those who are getting all in a hissy about the "negative" things people are saying. Nobody here has said anything negative about the trailer. Only about the man behind the trailer, who is elusive, who has repeatedly asked for other's help in these forums, and now when we've wanted his help in return, he's nowhere to be found. Hmm, don't you think that's just a tad selfish?

That leaves me with two possible scenarios. Either he's lying about this being his (could be promoting it for someone else) which is why he can't answer any questions (he doesn't know the answers) Or he's an a-hole who takes takes takes and doesn't give back. Which one is worse? I'm not sure. But I definitely think people have the right to call him out. And the fact that he's repeatedy been called out and not responded, only heightens people's suspicions. One long well-thought out response where you can tell he's taken the time to really answer people's questions would alleviate a lot of the doubt. Does he owe it to us? No. But the last time I checked this forum was based off the sharing of information. If that's the case, The Ozan is giving everyone here the big middle finger.

[Kin869]

I'm starting to believe that The Ozan may be God. Since he does not ever show himself, we must believe in him... only on faith.
Or maybe we're just all really bored. That's why we keep checking back to this thread and make up silly speculations on whether he is this or that.

Since it seems like he doesn't want to talk, why don't we just let him be? I'm tired of seeing this thread at the top of the first page! :shocked:

KiN.

[ShamrockFilms]

bump. haha

[murcott]

I'm starting to believe that The Ozan may be God. Since he does not ever show himself, we must believe in him... only on faith.

And for those who are getting all in a hissy about the "negative" things people are saying. Nobody here has said anything negative about the trailer. Only about the man behind the trailer, who is elusive, who has repeatedly asked for other's help in these forums, and now when we've wanted his help in return, he's nowhere to be found. Hmm, don't you think that's just a tad selfish?

That leaves me with two possible scenarios. Either he's lying about this being his (could be promoting it for someone else) which is why he can't answer any questions (he doesn't know the answers) Or he's an a-hole who takes takes takes and doesn't give back. Which one is worse? I'm not sure. But I definitely think people have the right to call him out. And the fact that he's repeatedy been called out and not responded, only heightens people's suspicions. One long well-thought out response where you can tell he's taken the time to really answer people's questions would alleviate a lot of the doubt. Does he owe it to us? No. But the last time I checked this forum was based off the sharing of information. If that's the case, The Ozan is giving everyone here the big middle finger.

This young man is not being selfish. I had the courage to email the guy and i dont blame him for being "ELUSIVE". A few of you have skipped, saw it as a joke nor didn't want to believe the answers given by someone who knows the guy - back on page 13! Its one of many posts in this thread that was quickly chewed up and forgotten about. I guess thats what happens when people jump to conclusions without giving it a chance to think about it.

[nessworks]

The trailer is great. Compliments on your Talent and Work accomplished Ozan.
Enjoyed the website. http://www.ozan.ca/methtrailer/
Quick question on the Embedded Flash Video.
Are those custom FLV Playback Buttons and Playback Bar you made or a plug in for Flash you found? Please provide link if the latter. Overall, awesome job!

[c.g._eads]

murcott, I read it. That's exactly my point. It's gotten to the point where other people have to answer questions for this guy. And who knows if it's not just someone making things up to alleviate all the questions about this thing?

nessworks, you will never ever ever ever get an answer to that question.

[bosindy]

That was sick!!!!! If he did it by himself, it is quite an accomplishment. I hope he did bc it gives hope for all of us who are no budget filmmakers. I did a little research on Ozan and I dug up his college application essay:

"I am an dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row.

I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute Brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru.

Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets. I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.

I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I toured New Jersey with a traveling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat .400 My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles.

Children trust me.

I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed covert operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me.

I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four-course meals using only a Mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prize-winning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis. But I have not yet gone to college."

[J.R. Hudson]

Come on everyone

Can we please drop the accusations and conspiracy theory sorrounding this ? Can we stick to commenting on the technical merits and creative elements and stop tainting it with negativity ?

It looks very well planned and executed but nothing that anyone (capable) here couldn't do.

Thanks !

[J.R. Hudson]

Rich is great but he is pretty "in" he has done pre-viz for 250 million dollar movies.



ash =o)


He did that on his own using the DVX and his own resources and has nothing to do with his status 'inside'!

[bosindy]

I have no reason to doubt he did it, technically it is brilliant. If you can get enough actors together to stay commited and shoot in natural light I guess it can be done.

excuse my joke, it seemd appropriate given the herculean effort it must have been mixed with the doubters. Good for him.

[ugafan]

That was sick!!!!! If he did it by himself, it is quite an accomplishment. I hope he did bc it gives hope for all of us who are no budget filmmakers. I did a little research on Ozan and I dug up his college application essay:

"I am an dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row.

I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute Brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru.

Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets. I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.

I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I toured New Jersey with a traveling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat .400 My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles.

Children trust me.

I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed covert operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me.

I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four-course meals using only a Mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prize-winning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis. But I have not yet gone to college."

haha. ozan is george carlin

[hvpz]

behind the camera :
-> one guy

in front of the camera :

-> wonderful locations
-> all kind of gears
-> cast (3 actors are identified at least on imdb)

Question :

When you have all those things in front of your dvx, why are you alone behind your camera and how do you master all this mess only in your spare time ?



Maths now :

wonderful locations
+ all kind of gears
+ good actors
= (lots of) pennies

[c.g._eads]

That was sick!!!!! If he did it by himself, it is quite an accomplishment. I hope he did bc it gives hope for all of us who are no budget filmmakers. I did a little research on Ozan and I dug up his college application essay:

"I am an dynamic figure, often seen scaling walls and crushing ice. I have been known to remodel train stations on my lunch breaks, making them more efficient in the area of heat retention. I translate ethnic slurs for Cuban refugees, I write award-winning operas, I manage time efficiently. Occasionally, I tread water for three days in a row.

I woo women with my sensuous and godlike trombone playing, I can pilot bicycles up severe inclines with unflagging speed, and I cook Thirty-Minute Brownies in twenty minutes. I am an expert in stucco, a veteran in love, and an outlaw in Peru.

Using only a hoe and a large glass of water, I once single-handedly defended a small village in the Amazon Basin from a horde of ferocious army ants. I play bluegrass cello, I was scouted by the Mets. I am the subject of numerous documentaries. When I'm bored, I build large suspension bridges in my yard. I enjoy urban hang gliding. On Wednesdays, after school, I repair electrical appliances free of charge.

I am an abstract artist, a concrete analyst, and a ruthless bookie. Critics worldwide swoon over my original line of corduroy evening wear. I don't perspire. I am a private citizen, yet I receive fan mail. I have been caller number nine and have won the weekend passes. Last summer I toured New Jersey with a traveling centrifugal-force demonstration. I bat .400 My deft floral arrangements have earned me fame in international botany circles.

Children trust me.

I can hurl tennis rackets at small moving objects with deadly accuracy. I once read Paradise Lost, Moby Dick, and David Copperfield in one day and still had time to refurbish an entire dining room that evening. I know the exact location of every food item in the supermarket. I have performed covert operations for the CIA. I sleep once a week; when I do sleep, I sleep in a chair. While on vacation in Canada, I successfully negotiated with a group of terrorists who had seized a small bakery. The laws of physics do not apply to me.

I balance, I weave, I dodge, I frolic, and my bills are all paid. On weekends, to let off steam, I participate in full-contact origami. Years ago I discovered the meaning of life but forgot to write it down. I have made extraordinary four-course meals using only a Mouli and a toaster oven. I breed prize-winning clams. I have won bullfights in San Juan, cliff-diving competitions in Sri Lanka, and spelling bees at the Kremlin. I have played Hamlet, I have performed open-heart surgery, and I have spoken with Elvis. But I have not yet gone to college."


I bow down to the master.

[Bezakor]

we here to crit movies, not ppl. I love it, inspiring, great composision and u making everyone here doubt their skills. u kick ass friend

[LMF]

Hello everyone,

If this thread and forum exists to be a source of valuable information for all of us, I don't understand why "Ozan" has not given us the real "meat and potatoes" of how shots, editing and sound were accomplished. Exactly.

I'm a newbie who lurked a long time before deciding to pull the trigger on purchasing my DVX100A.

Every single bit of information on nicely made clips are extremely valuable to me...and my fellow film (movie) makers. I have come to rely heavily on the free flow of advice and I'm bothered at his (Ozan's) cavalier attitude in his replies.

IMHO, all that was necessary perhaps, was to create a word doc containing as much as he could disclose about the project and just revert/point us to it. I would then put that in my personal DVX handbook and be able to become a great movie maker like him.

That, is afterall, why I'm (we're) here.

Thank you all for contributing throughout this forum.

[phazelee]

Hello everyone,

If this thread and forum exists to be a source of valuable information for all of us, I don't understand why "Ozan" has not given us the real "meat and potatoes" of how shots, editing and sound were accomplished. Exactly.

I'm a newbie who lurked a long time before deciding to pull the trigger on purchasing my DVX100A.

Every single bit of information on nicely made clips are extremely valuable to me...and my fellow film (movie) makers. I have come to rely heavily on the free flow of advice and I'm bothered at his (Ozan's) cavalier attitude in his replies.

IMHO, all that was necessary perhaps, was to create a word doc containing as much as he could disclose about the project and just revert/point us to it. I would then put that in my personal DVX handbook and be able to become a great movie maker like him.

That, is afterall, why I'm (we're) here.

Thank you all for contributing throughout this forum.

I'm pretty sure he wants to keep it a secret, so nobody else can achieve the look he came up with the dvx100a and some post production.

Its a competition, he wins

[ade4all]

amazing how this thread started with a high quality trailer & all i'm going to remember about it is some rather pathetic attempts to put it down. tis a shame

[JimiK]

Thank you mate.You just wrote what I was thinking.Sometimes people are out to get others rather than respect each other's work one way or another.IT IS A SHAME.

[frmain]

This thread has ballooned in a matter of what.....5 days? I have friends who check their e-mails once a week and forums even less. Just because some of us come back and check every day (or it seems, hour) it doesn't mean that the thread creator does. And judging from his footage, it seems he has better things to do with his time rather than reveal every last thing about his life and work every time somebody makes a new post - which is quite frequently. It seems he's actually out there developing his skills with his camera, which perhaps some of us should do a bit more, no?

[ProjX v2.0]

Quick question on the Embedded Flash Video.
Are those custom FLV Playback Buttons and Playback Bar you made or a plug in for Flash you found?


nessworks, you will never ever ever ever get an answer to that question.

It looks like the default Clear skin that comes with Flash to me. :beer:

[MalcolmOng]

Imagine what people musta said to Robert Rodriguez the first time he told them that he made El Mariachi for $7000, 'just for practise'

[frmain]

They said "now fork out $30,000 for the film prints"

[Cheesesailor77]

lol i just read the whoooooole thing

if the question is whether or not THIS guy made it, we'll never know, but as to whether or not 1 guy could make this cheaply, of course he could. First of all, i think some people are confused thinking there is a movie. It's just a trailer. An impressive trailer, but still just 4 minutes of quick cuts. And about the look, the interior lighting isnt that great, and 90% of it is outside. It's all CC (again, good CC).

So for me what makes this trailer is good planning, good editing, some eye catching CC, and a really good sound designer. Maybe some good acting as well... maybe.

Anyway, if you made it, awesome job dude. That comeing from another guy who suprises people when they find out I did everything but the acting. ;)

[murcott]

This thread has ballooned in a matter of what.....5 days? I have friends who check their e-mails once a week and forums even less. Just because some of us come back and check every day (or it seems, hour) it doesn't mean that the thread creator does. And judging from his footage, it seems he has better things to do with his time rather than reveal every last thing about his life and work every time somebody makes a new post - which is quite frequently. It seems he's actually out there developing his skills with his camera, which perhaps some of us should do a bit more, no?

I totally agree with you on this. Well said! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap! Every wasted minute on here could of been one useful minute out there.

[nessworks]

It looks like the default Clear skin that comes with Flash to me. :beer:

Thanks, ProjX, I will experiment the different skins.
I have the Flash Render Process down, just need to work the minor details of the play buttons.

[agcohn]

amazing how this thread started with a high quality trailer & all i'm going to remember about it is some rather pathetic attempts to put it down. tis a shame
Strange, because what I remember from this thread is a great trailer that received lots of praise in the beginning. Then people started asking the creator difficult questions, and he, essentially, treated them like a bunch of assholes.

There are very posts in this thread that directly attack the trailer. The only one I've found in the thread says that something is fishy, and then asks the budget.

Most of the negative responses come from Ozan's almost childlike responses to peoples' questions, just repeating over and over again that "the budget was pennies"...and "yes, it really was pennies"...and "yes, I did this all by myself."

[Jay Rodriguez]

IMHO, all that was necessary perhaps, was to create a word doc containing as much as he could disclose about the project and just revert/point us to it. I would then put that in my personal DVX handbook and be able to become a great movie maker like him.


And what makes you think it's his responsibility to do so?

[ugafan]

And what makes you think it's his responsibility to do so?
he doesn't have to answer to anyone, but i thought the point of this website was to provide a community for filmmakers to help each other out and share their knowledge, experiences, etc. i'm not saying he has to write a manual or anything, but answering some simple questions would be nice.

i think the lack of info about how this was done is what is annoying and causing doubts for some.

[agcohn]

And what makes you think it's his responsibility to do so?
He doesn't have a responsibility to do anything. Ozan's problem is that the responses he gave did not seem to show the same amount of professionalism as the trailer.

It would be the equivalent of reading a Pulitzer Prize winning novel, only to meet the author in person and find that he is a juvenile that likes pee-pee and poo-poo jokes. It doesn't quite fit.

Ozan would have been better off not saying anything.

[bosindy]

I totally agree with you on this. Well said! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap! Every wasted minute on here could of been one useful minute out there.

Trying to understand someones process when you see work you respect is never wasted time.

[novelt]

well from what i remember is people asked what adaptor he used and he replied that he didn't use one. then instead of accepting that answer people basically accused him of lying and then he repeats that he didn't use an adaptor.

did anyone ask if he looped/ADR the dialogue. i for one could tape a scene not using a boom mic and then ADr the dialouge. so now that cuts out a boom operator. proving one person can at least acheive that much.

people are saying he's not being truthful about the "pennies" because they see a mercedes. as i stated in an earlier thread i can get my friends bentley for nothing or do you not know what a bentley is? it's worth more than that mercedes...of course i'd let him drive it around some indutrial area...wouldn't that responsibility :)

finally i find it extremely funny that people are yapping about the "swat" uniforms take a real good look...i didn't know jeans were swat issue :grin: :grin: :grin:

so seriously give ozan a break...he's already explained how he acheived the shots and if you were really inquisitive why not just read his other posts not just in this thread, but throughout the forum. he's asked a lot of questions that he obviously used to shoot "meth"...put it together the answers are in front of you.

[Jay Rodriguez]

ugafan, people have their own motives in posting things. Not all are willing nor have the time to respond to every question and/or defend themselves against every accusation.

agcohn, you think all "professionals" behave like professionals? lol

[frmain]

Trying to understand someones process when you see work you respect is never wasted time.

The best way to understand is to go out and try and do it yourself. People learn more by experimenting and making mistakes than trying to copy somebody else's formula.

[bosindy]

Then why are you here? Obviously you learn from your own trial and error. You also learn from others experience. should you forgoe reading Barry Greens books bc you own a camera and can play with the settings?

At the end of the day we commiserate on this forum to learn. When someone posts something that is special, I would hope to hear more about the work without having to be an archaeologist. No one here is obligated to do so and I am not calling into question anyones credibility.

[slinks]

I don't know why everyone still has to debate about this issue. Yes, Ozan hasn't come back and really answered or confirmed anything but it looks like his friend did answer some questions. Maybe you believe it or not but whatevers...

here's a lil reminder:


I know Ozan, he does freelance camera for me sometimes.
I was one of the friends that he would send test edits to, so I'm familiar with the Meth project.

First off, Ozan is a talented director, I think we all can agree on that.
He's already getting bites from some production houses because of Meth.

He does about four specs a year, so he's pretty solid behind the DVX.
The thing that really impressed me, aside from his natural ability to shoot and edit, was how little resources he has to work with.
I've frequently seen jobs 100x the budget that dont turn out as well.

Here's the facts....
-His budget was around $900 CDN.
-SWAT uniforms were from a North Van company called Phoenix, and they're left-overs from an xmen3 shoot... so they were loaned to him.
-Ozan films for a Vancouver car drifting club, so he has lots of friends with fast cars who want to be filmed drifting for free ie:the black Merc.
-He didn't use a 35mm adapter.
-Helijet airways flies all over the lower-mainland like public transit, you just buy a ticket and film out the window.
-Vancouver is a major film hub, and has a very large percentage of hungry actors willing to work for free to build their reels.
Filmmakers can post an ad, and literally get hundreds of responses.
-He shot, edited, and did all the post by himself.... sound design was credited to someone else.
-The sand dunes are in Richmond BC, and are open to the public.... although they require permits to shoot big jobs.
-Most impressive thing to me was how he got into a small container yard for free... very tough post 9-11.
He was denied by about ten yards until he found a smaller yard that would let him shoot during some off-hours.
-Interiors are all properly balanced/exposed available light. Most are Ozan's friend's offices... the chief's office is mine.

Nice job Ozan, bright future ahead of you.

since thats over and done with, who are you rooting for in the Superbowl?

[c.g._eads]

I think DVXUser should make this the only thread on the site.

[jdmkenji]

lol. yeah the trailer was good. but was it really just "practice" ;-)

[frmain]

Then why are you here?

Because right now I don't have a camera. That's why. I get my new DVX in a week. I was previousy using a Sony from course. I no longer have access to it since graduating.

I'm here to see what can be produced from the DVX, what other people are doing. Although it's really interesting to read technical details, I'm one of those people who just cannot read a line of specs and instantly understand the concept. I learn by doing, which is why I guess it doesn't bother me that he's not posting up minute for minute how he achieved what he did.

All I'm interested in is seeing what other people do and being inspired..saying "hey yeah, it's possible. AWESOME!"