New "Full HD" JVC GZ-HD7 Everio is coming

[hawaj]

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/JVC-Finally-Unveils-HD-Everio.htm

unfortunatelly w same pixel-shifting like HVX200 so not so Full HD as it should be :(

http://images.camcorderinfo.com/images/upload/Image/CES/CES%202007%20News/JVC/HD/JVC_GZ-HD7_vanity.jpg

[Landon D Parks]

Good, I think I found another "Behind the scenes" camera. Interlaced, 1/5" CCD's, built in HDD.... It's all to "Consumerized" for my idea of an actual camera to shoot a film with, escpecially with a $2,000 price tag.

Makes a good "Behind the Scenes" doc camera though.

PS) Comparing this in any way to the HVX is like comparing the XL2 to the RED camera.... No real comparison.

[tbanucci]

Yeah, but this would make for a great personal cam to use for shooting the kids and family in HD, not to mention a second or third cam for a wedding or event.

[hawaj]

PS) Comparing this in any way to the HVX is like comparing the XL2 to the RED camera.... No real comparison.

I am just comparing how it create picture, not quality of picture ...
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[Neil Rowe]

..that thing looks like a night scope for a military rifle. but yeah. i wouldnt go shooting a film with it. its a consumer grade camera. although theres plenty of worthwhile motion pictures that have been shot on a less formidable piece of equipment .. so im sure it has its place making a movie for some people as well.

[Emanuel]

The Canon HV10 will be a cheaper and better higher res -- even and surely for a handheld behind-the-scenes capture device.

[rawfa]

The Canon HV10 will be a cheaper and better higher res -- even and surely for a handheld behind-the-scenes capture device.

I haven't seen any footage form the GZ-HD7 (I'm curious about the full HD though), but I have to say the canon HV10 produces some really beautiful footage. i'm amazed at this little bugger. If I had some free cash laying around I would not think twice about investing it on a HV10. Great footage, great for vacations, great for behind the scenes, and with a bonus of making a good deck for it's bigger brothers and sisters.

[rawfa]

BTW, does the GZ-HD7 remind any one else of the Sony DCR-TRV950E?

[manglerBMX]

yeah def looks a lot like the trv950.

[duliskov]

Hawaj wrote "same pixel-shifting like HVX200 so not so Full HD as it should be". I suggest reading the thread at http://tinyurl.com/ytokzk, where this was discussed in details.

[duliskov]

Dear Landon It is not an interlaced camcorder. The capture (sensor) is progressive, but the image is split into frames for recording. This does not involve any "interlacing", it is just using an existing mechanism (interlaced framework) to record a progressive image. Same as Sony V1 does for example. Not all NLEs recognize it as a progressive footage, but you can instruct them to handle it as progressive manually. The image is reconstructed without any loss of quality back into full frame progressive when played back. See the link above as well.

[duliskov]

Sorry posted link to wrong thread first time. http://tinyurl.com/y83rkp Here is the right link.

[AuditoryVisuals]

I heard that the HD everio was supposed to be 1080p60. And have 1920x1080 sensors. So much for that! That I would consider "Full HD".

I wouldn't consider 1080i60 "Full HD", rather, just full raster.

[hawaj]

check out stripped Everio and some other pics (HDMI, etc) :)
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20070207/victor.htm

[Nathyn]

This cam is hot. I think Panasonic should look at this. If they want to move away from tape (I still think the idea sucks because tape back up is smart) this is the way to go. 60gb internal Harddrive with SDHC option. 5 freaking hours of full HD 1920x1080 Recording.

Now if this camera had 720/24p it would be a go. It even has a friggin XLR port. Panasonic, can you give me this with 720/24p and 1/3 chips? Check the "Advanced operations". The only thing not hot is the 1/5 CCDs. The price point is great. I'd pay $500 more for 720/24p and 1/3rd chips minimum plus a bigger body (PDX10 size at least) and a removable drive that can be switched with a new inexpensive (and/or bigger) drive every few years when it wears out. I think they're going to probably come out with something like that soon.

-Nate

[Kyle Stebbins]

great for consumers. not so great for prosumers.

[3CCD]

The review on camcorderinfo said that the new MPEG-2 Codec and quality fell short of expectations.

[Nathyn]

The review on camcorderinfo said that the new MPEG-2 Codec and quality fell short of expectations.
But Panasonic's ACHDV doesn't have to. But I spoke with Jan and she said it's not the direction Panasonic's going. I did offer some suggestions though about their current direction. No one's doing tape based cameras anymore just so you guys will know. Jan says HDD cameras are not good for heavy movement. I do action films so that's probably out for me, although this makes me question DVD cameras.

-Nate

[Bokes]

Will panasonic include 24p into their consumer line anytime soon?
I just bought the Canon HV20 for this reason and I love it- but I would have bought Panasonic if they offered it.

[Barry_Green]

I was frankly shocked that the HSC-1U *didn't* have 24p. I can't imagine them producing another camcorder that doesn't have it.

And, remember AVC-HD has native support for 24p designed from the ground up. No pulldown, no anything -- it records a pure raw 24p in both 720 and 1080. I can't see why they'd go to the trouble to design that into the specification, and then nobody takes advantage of it! It'll happen...

[Nathyn]

Since these are just consumer cameras they're holding back for the prosumer stuff.

-Nate

[Emanuel]

Yeah... Canon's case aside, there's a high-end to protect... :D

[RC23]

true, that camera would make a nice prop on a film about stupid cameras.

[Camera Expert]

I was frankly shocked that the HSC-1U *didn't* have 24p. I can't imagine them producing another camcorder that doesn't have it.

And, remember AVC-HD has native support for 24p designed from the ground up. No pulldown, no anything -- it records a pure raw 24p in both 720 and 1080. I can't see why they'd go to the trouble to design that into the specification, and then nobody takes advantage of it! It'll happen...

Because the SD1 got replaced by the SD3, the HSC-1U should be replaced as well, so maybe they will put 24p in it this time as well as a focusing around the lens. The latter is something I hope they would do because Panasonic was always known to having the most professional features in a consumer camcorder.

[Hairy Lime]

http://images.camcorderinfo.com/images/upload/Image/CES/CES%202007%20News/JVC/HD/JVC_GZ-HD7_vanity.jpg

Bought one of these last week and I'm loving it so far. For me it's primarily a personal, rehearsal, casting, and goof around camera, but I'm getting the feeling I can shoot a music video with this thing without much problem at all. Might be trying that very soon. I'm pretty happy with the low light images though I'm sure someone will tell me otherwise. Tried some stuff out over the weekend and it looks really good. I'm not a technophile, just a storyteller, so I can't really speak to the specs and whatnot, but I'm really happy with the image quality thus far and the hard drive is a really nice feature.

If I can sort out the microphone situation I may even try shooting a short or two with it.

[patssle]

Marketing at its finest. funny thing is, they are targeting it to consumers as "full hd" when the TVs they will play them on mostly likely won't be full HD anyways since most plasma/lcds are 720p. So the consumer won't be seeing full HD at any given point.

Marketing!

[daveswan]

"Full HD" tv's are becoming a lot more common. If I was in the market for a new tv, that's the way I would be going.

[Captain Pierce]

Yeah, but you have to remember, 720p is technically just as "full HD" as 1080i. This isn't like the good ol' days of NTSC, when everything was the same--for some stupid reason, they're allowing multiple "standards," so some HD broadcasts are 720p and some are 1080i. (Heck, wasn't Fox trying to call 480p "HD" at first?)

That said, 1080i on a 720p set probably does involve some scaling, but so dows watching a 1080i broadcast, so you'd think the manufacturers would already have factored that into the TV...