V1u Footage Any One ?????????? Post Post Post

[Mark Dog]

im thinking of getting a V1U but havent seen much of any i see some have V1U so please post footage for the people intrested in this camera would be great send footage please :) preferale mov/wmv files nice see some people in them only really seen mostly trees and stuff outdoor footage POPST POST POST POST



peace n luv

Mark Dog

[Transmission2]

Im shooting a documentary, so I can't release any of the footage. If I shoot something generic, then I'll do my best to post it. If I was you, I would go to a retailer and check the camera out. That's what I did.

[magi1500]

I could probably put a few shots up. But I couldn't leave it up for too long (don't have the bandwith) and I need to get permission from my talent. give me a day or two.

but i would have to compress it to put it online so transmission is right, you'd probably be better off going to a pro Sony dealer.

[Huy Vu]

Kinda weird. When the A1 came out there were tons of footage posted, but so far almost nothing for the V1U.

[Sean Michael]

Some V1U (and V1E) footage has been posted at DVInfo.net.

But I agree, there's an overall dearth of V1U footage! I expected to see a lot more by now.

[Mark Dog]

compressed or not just post the footage please if you have the camera show us somthing act like it was dvx footage i post somthing damn

[magi1500]

sheesh! OK! :)

I just cut something together for you guys. I'll post a link here later today. I may have to pull it tomorrow if we exceed my site's bandwith, but I promise to keep it up for at least a day.

[Sean Michael]

Thanks Magi.

What's your impression of the camera? Does it meet your expectations?

A lot of us are weighing a V1U purchase against the Canon A1...and there's much more info available on the A1.

[magi1500]

here it is. 2 min. 15 sec. It is only 1/2 the resolution (960X540) so you can't quite see the level of detail the cam shoots, but I put a lot of stuff in there to show everything else off. Of course, it is compressed for the web, but not too heavily. footage has no FX or color correction of any kind.

UPDATED LINK / RIGHT CLICK AND DOWNLOAD LINKED FILE:

www.sharing.ramjetfilms.com/Rocky_Peak_540p.mov

[magi1500]

Sean,
My general impression of the cam is quite good. I chose it because I have shot a lot of stuff with the DVX100 & with the Sony HVR-A1U. The V1U's form factor is very similar to the DVX100 and it uses the same type of pulldown for 24p. The menu interface is extremely similar to the A1U (also a Sony HDV camera.)

Things I really love about it:

At 1920X1080 progressive, the MPEG2 compression almost has a tiny film grain effect. My interlaced A1U it came off as amatuer, but because on the V1 it is progressive, the compression is somehow cleaner, if that makes sense, and it is nice. Also, it has really solid low light performance. I had heard a review to the contrary for the FX7, but the V1U surprised me. The manual iris & focus are responsive. There is a "push auto focus" button that activates auto focus only for as long as you're holding the button. That saved me a lot of time. I detected no resolution drop in the progressive modes. I LOVE the cinematone gamma and cinematone color stuff. the Picture Profile presets are excellent (PP2 is the cinema preset that I shot the above movie with).

The only negative comment I have isn't a real concern for me. At 60i & 30p, I haven't blown out the bit rate. As another poster said, however, there is something to be said for using the full bit rate, because I did blow it out a couple of times at 24p. These were super extreme things that I don't think you'd encounter in a real shooting environment. (I was trying to blow out the bit rate by crazy light, lots of multiple motion subjects and shaking the camera handheld). Basically, for one frame I could see the compression after I captured it and paused on one frame. (Kind of like OTA HD except this was only 1% of that...)

To me it was minor and just a limitation of the camera.

I work at a post house and most of our footage comes from the DVCPRO HD 720p 24 Varicam (I think that cam is in the $50,000 range?). I've also directed a couple of shorts using the F900 (I think that is still over $100,000.) So I have a good idea of what you get for the money.

After playing with the camera for less than an hour, I was getting the most filmlike images I've ever seen for a sub $10,000 camera because of:

1. all those pixels (effective 1920X1080)
2. slight grain type effect from the HDV codec used on progressive images
3. cinematone gamma & cinematone color (especially using Picture Profile 2 preset)
4. True 24p

Yes, it uses HDV. Yes, that means long GOP compression and limited color space and the equivalent of mp3 audio (audio sounded pretty good, by the way.) But I am very happy with this cam, and I don't know if those complaints would be much different from the Canon because it also uses HDV.

In short (oops, too late):

If you want to emulate the look of film for less than $5,000, I highly recommend the V1U.

And no, I don't work for Sony.

:)

[anthony jackson]

well I trust your judgement
a friend of mine in LA said it was a great cam as well ,so I might just pick up one this year for that price you can't beat it. $4,200

[Kholi]

Wow. LOL. That looked pretty good, man. You're right, it does look rather cinematic. Also, the color rendition is very nice. It's not over-saturated or under-saturated at all. Thanks for sharing that. It's about time someone posted some nice footage from this camera.

[magi1500]

Thanks Kholi!!

[Sean Michael]

Magi, thanks for your post. Your footage looks great! It's among the first anyone's posted that looks like the type of stuff I might actually shoot (ie. roaming out and about in the real world) -- as opposed, say, to still shots of trees and cats. :)

Thanks also for your observations about the camera. I've been interested in the V1U over its competitors due to its relatively small size and weight. It seems it would be a bit more mobile than an HVX or Canon A1.

It appears that in the hands of a skilled operator, ANY of these cameras is capable of producing stellar images. The question is which one best suits your particular needs.

[Kholi]

It appears that in the hands of a skilled operator, ANY of these cameras is capable of producing stellar images. The question is which one best suits your particular needs.

Seems like more and more people are subscribing to this. Makes it better for all of us in the end.

[Mark Dog]

yes thanks magi good of you to put the footage and as the one who started this thread I salute you :) thanx for showing the luv my friend and giving us some footage to see

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[Mark Dog]

footage look dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn good magi thnax , i wnderif you can show us some more perhaps some indoor footage shoot same setting that would be great : ) very great please thnx

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[Nathyn]

Some V1U (and V1E) footage has been posted at DVInfo.net.

But I agree, there's an overall dearth of V1U footage! I expected to see a lot more by now.
Few people care about this camera. It was timed poorly. If it had come out pre-Canon A1 it would be hot. It came out post Canon A1. Sony isn't trust-worthy with 24p and prosumer cams, Canon is. They may have a great system now but too little to late. They should've done it on the FX and it's big brother which would still make it viable against the Canon.

Sony's learning the hard lesson that as great as this camera is people will choose to not care about you if you keep raking them the wrong way (PS3 anyone). The PS3 is a great example. Sure it sold big at the start, but now game store have a bunch of them that won't move and out of everything the Nintendo is the one kicking the most butt. Sony should start doing things right and they will be back on top. Sony should've bought this system out when Xbox came out, now the system is pretty played. Same thing with this camera. We should've 24p on the first Sony HDV camera so no matter how great, it's already been done and for cheaper. Sony could've played it smart and bought out the camera at the same price point but they didn't even want to do that. I was fiending for a Sony HDV/24p camera but right now the A1 is where I'm looking. Sorry Sony, better luck tomorrow.

-Nate

[Huy Vu]

I disagree. The only way that a camera can be considered "too little, too late" is if it is behind the time in comparison with its competitors. So far I see nothing about the V1U that is behind the Canon. HDV 24p? Check. 20x zoom? Check. Capable of producing filmlike image? Check. It even has HDMI output which the Canon lacks. You're talking as if people are so turned off by Sony's past efforts at putting out a 24p prosumer camera that they will automatically consider the V1U worthless. If I recall the XL2, Canon's previous 24p camera, sold very poorly. There are till tons of post here and on DVinfo asking if 24F is really as good as 24p, so people can't be "trusting" Canon more than Sony.

The A1 and the V1U are newcomers to the game and it really doesn't make sense for the A1 to be the automatic winner. I think the lack of footage from the V1U is partly because people are still struggling with the work flow of 1080/24p and because the V1U is released later than the Canon.

[Mark Dog]

i agree with jade on this , know i seen alot A1 footage at its real nice put the V1 has more to offer true 24p hdmi and lets not forget that little mini harddrive that hold 4.5hours of footage that you can connect to your computer like an external hard drive and edit you footage , its also nice to be vegas user to which I am have 6 i gt a V1U ill get 7 , but send us some more your footage magi that beautiful V1U footage go magi , go magi

peace n luv

Mark Dog

ps Nate when is your ew movie coming out on dvd ? liked your first it was great

[Chenopup]

I think the A1 is a great cam. In fact I prefer it to the XLH1 aside from the little batwing lcd. Weird...

I haven't compared enough of the A1 footage next to the V1U but find both cameras provide very nice images. I'm not a fan of Canon though so I would never own one personally. That's why I chose the Sony.

As for people not caring about the V1, I think that's hokey. I know plenty of people who are using it and very happy with it. I think we get caught up in the thoughts that we should be getting the same images as $30k plus cameras and it's not the case. If the camera works for you, use it. If it doesn't, thank goodness there are so many options out there now.

[Ronbo]

How do you post? What format do you want it in?

I have some wildlife footage I just shot in Florida.

[Sean Michael]

Ronbo, I'd love to see your footage (and hear what you think about the camera). You might try uploading your files to Putfile.com.

[Mark Dog]

and mov or a winos media file is just great ronbo did u shoot it in 24p or 30p or 60i ronbo ????

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[altina]

Here is some skateboarding footage shot in 24p ScanA. Of course 24P is not the best for skateboarding but hey my new V1U has it so why not play around with it.

http://www.hipster.org/~fleebs/soutpasfun.mov

[Mark Dog]

cant seem to download from the site is somthing wrong hmmmm???

[Mark Dog]

say page not found or somthing

[Mark Dog]

let us know whats up altina

[altina]

Sorry about that typo

http://www.hipster.org/~fleebs/southpasfun.mov

[magi1500]

that skating footage looks nice! thanks for posting it.

[altina]

Thanks Magi, glad you liked.

[Mark Dog]

yes look very good altina thanx for posting it please send more of you sparkling pictures lol u to Magi if you could please thanx

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[snowleopard]

Link to Magi's clip is now down, as of Feb 6th.

[Mark Dog]

hey magi clipps down but better yet could you give us some indor footage every thing been shown is outdoor can people with camera pleased post some indoor and night footage please thanx

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[magi1500]

Someone was hosting the file for me and I guess he took it down. I'm happy to put it somewhere else if someone has the space... ?
I'm cutting a piece now that was shot indoors (although a lot of it was lit with sunlight through the windows). It should be done in the next week or so...

[Mark Dog]

cool magi thanx cant wait to see

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[Noel Evans]

Hi Mark and others, will have the V1 from Saturday to Monday will post some sample clips.

[Mark Dog]

sound great ncje cant wait to see thanx for sharing


peace n luv

Mark Dog

[Jason Ramsey]

Magi, Sorry. I knew I was hosting some stuff for some people, but I couldn't remember who. I wanted to send a message to give a little warning.... Anyways, I took my sharing folder down temporarily to open up bandwidth for drama fest. I am mirroring the films for drama fest and that is kind of a bandwidth hog. Sorry about that. I will put them back up and let you know.

Jason

[ToolBox]

I have some footage I shot in and around Bethlehem P.A. with the V1U. I am going to say this camera packs a huge punch for being so little. The image quality is fantastic in fact when I compared it side by side on 2 1080P Sony monitors with the new Sony F350 XDCAM HD I could tell very little. These new clear vid CMOS chips are absolutley amazing.

The reason the footage below isn't so great is because I couldn't compress the video from Premiere Pro 2.0 for the web cause the program was being stupid and did nothing when I told it to do something, anyway I had to downconvert to SD and then bring it into the dreaded Windows Movie Maker and compress it there so thats why it's squeezed and a little blurry.

I'll post more clips as soon as I can and try to do them in better quality.

Feel free to tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Q5ZejQr-A

[Mark Dog]

hey toolbox looks good was this 24p footage u took ??, thanx for sharing

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[ToolBox]

Yes that was all ahot in HDV 24P, and it was comprable to the sony XDCAM HD F350's 24P capability. If anyone has any questions about the camera feel free to ask and I will try to answer it. Also I'm working on getting some full size frame grabs to post online so you can see the true beauty of this camera and its new imaging technology.

[Fugitive]

How does the DOF compare to the FX1/Z1? Does the smaller chip size really make a difference?

[ToolBox]

To tell you the truth I didn't pay particular attention to the DOF. I doubt that the chip size really makes and that much of a difference because a 1/4 CMOS chip can excede the quality of a 1/3 CCD especially these Clearvid CMOS chips. When the camera I ordered comes in I will pay particular attention to it and report back to you.

[Noel Evans]

Mine is coming... few more days though, pretty busy during Feb.

[Mark Dog]

any V1U people take any new footage??????????? if you did please post let us see those pretty pictures please like to see some indoor footage still havent seen that so please post !!!

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[gnomebard]

http://www.jimfinn.org/juche/test.html

here is a test i did but the compression is ipod large compression...haven't figured out the best compression yet. this is HDV 24p setting. Just got the camera and it seems amazing so far.

[gnomebard]

how did you do the compression on this?
i compressed mine ipod but there are lots of artifacts.

[Mark Dog]

footage any one yet come one come all show us the pretty pictures :)

peace n luv


Mark Dog

[Mark Dog]

aler aler no more new footage :( please send us some footage pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzeee more pretty pictures more pretty pictures more V1u footage please :)

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[ecking]

Yo why so much interest in the v1 when the a1 is proven and cheaper? Like 4-5 ppl own a v1 and there isn't a lot of good press about it so why bother?

[Mark Dog]

the V1U is better camera hdmi and a true proggresive frame not 24f and besides that i have vegas , vegas owner here :)

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[Mark Dog]

any more footage any one , any one ????????????????????????????????

peace n luv

Mark Dog

[magi1500]

Mark Dog, I love my V1U and all, but I have to ask:

you don't work for Sony, do you?

:)

[Mark Dog]

nah i dont magi500 ,but i love to see some more your footage lol

peave n luv

Mark Dog

[34Ford]

Here is a couple of short videos I made of our Mustang club. We need more V1U footage for sure.
I would put up more but the files are so BIG!.

http://brmcoa.org/brmcoa/videos/piratestang.html

http://brmcoa.org/brmcoa/videos/ponysonparkway.html

[bytehoven]

Can anyone suggest links for v1u settings we might experiment with on our new camera?

BTW... we started a documentary with a borrowed v1u after some test shooting produced beautiful results.

When it came down to buying a camera, we looked at the Canon HX-A1 and Z7U, and decided to stick with the v1u.

We were really tempted by the z7u, but given it's short list of issues, it seems like the camera is not quite ready for prime time. Which is a shame, because it the z7u has the potential to be awesome.

Thanks in advance for any programming tips for the v1u.

[snowleopard]

Interesting comments bytehoven. I love the look of the v1 and it's features (and size). I was just disappointed by it's need for light. Great daylight, or well lit/prepared set camera though. Really nice picture.

34Ford - Next time you prepare files for internet posting, please make sure the stay progressive, or de-interlace them. Your footage has gorgeous color, but the interlacing is distracting to a keen eye. But yes, please post more!

[34Ford]

34Ford - Next time you prepare files for internet posting, please make sure the stay progressive, or de-interlace them. Your footage has gorgeous color, but the interlacing is distracting to a keen eye. But yes, please post more!

Could you help me with that? Im using Vegas 7 and I did these videos so they wouldn't be such big files. I have a hard time trying to keep good quality and make them suitable for people with less than great inet connections and d/l times.