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Nicolas
12-28-2006, 11:42 AM
Soon to come ;)



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Ted Arabian
01-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Wow! Some interesting shots here. That second one is pretty damn incredible!

Any info on your film?

-Ted

jeremytuttle
01-02-2007, 08:11 AM
Those are some killer looking trees in the third photo. Good luck with the project.

jontuttle
01-02-2007, 08:30 AM
Wow. Those last two locations look killer. I love the white room. Best of luck.

dvpixl
01-02-2007, 03:01 PM
looks like Similo. how do people make these white rooms?

RebeccaD
01-02-2007, 03:16 PM
Those shots look incredible! Looking forward to seeing the end result.

Nicolas
01-02-2007, 04:08 PM
It looks like Similo because it's a Similo rip-off/wannabe, though the story is totally different. Macgregor is a friend of mine, so I'll have to check the final result and see it with him to decide if I should finally release this... But just to make it clear: the white room's shots are completely a Macgregor wannabe. :)

Paul Coleman
01-02-2007, 09:32 PM
This looks promising. Nicolas, have you seen Safe?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114323/

Jason Ramsey
01-03-2007, 09:27 AM
I concur. I really like those shots.

Good luck to you,
Jason

Nicolas
01-04-2007, 07:36 AM
Thanks for the comments. Paul, what about Safe? I haven't seen it...

Paul Coleman
01-04-2007, 12:57 PM
Thanks for the comments. Paul, what about Safe? I haven't seen it...

In Safe, a woman withdraws from life and goes to live in a little, sterile hut in the middle of nowhere. The white room in your stills and the little building make me think we're going to get into some interesting territory. :beer:

PaPa
01-04-2007, 01:13 PM
really nice shots.

is that white room cg?

Nicolas
01-05-2007, 03:49 PM
Humm. Paul Coleman, this story is rather about how life depends (mostly) entirely on you, as what becomes of you in the future. That's the reason for the title: the "wrath of time", since time puts into play every move you make in life and never forgives.

No CG.

Paul Coleman
01-05-2007, 06:05 PM
Humm. Paul Coleman, this story is rather about how life depends (mostly) entirely on you, as what becomes of you in the future. That's the reason for the title: the "wrath of time", since time puts into play every move you make in life and never forgives.

Interesting. Definitely looking forward to this one. :beer:

Nicolas
01-29-2007, 04:50 PM
Ready to come...

Nicolas
01-30-2007, 08:48 PM
Due to copyright problems we're outty. Next time, maybe. ;)

Brandon Rice
01-30-2007, 08:50 PM
What? Are you serious??

Nicolas
01-30-2007, 08:50 PM
Yup. :(

preston
01-30-2007, 08:52 PM
Due to copyright problems we're outty. Next time, maybe. ;)

what kind of issues?

Nicolas
01-30-2007, 08:55 PM
It may offend some people, and OST CRight issues as well.

Brandon Rice
01-30-2007, 08:56 PM
It may offend some people, and OST CRight issues as well.

WHAT?! Dude... it's not copywritten to say it on a forum... :violent5:

preston
01-30-2007, 08:57 PM
It may offend some people, and OST CRight issues as well.

OST - I don't know what that is . . . Googling.

Brandon Rice
01-30-2007, 08:58 PM
Sound track?

Nicolas
01-30-2007, 08:59 PM
Huh?

Nicolas
01-30-2007, 10:02 PM
Oh, I just meant the short itself could offend some people. Sorry. ;)

Edgen
01-31-2007, 01:08 AM
Nicolas... Great to chat with you earlier. All the best with your film and good luck with everything!

Cheers,
/j

TimurCivan
02-03-2007, 03:14 PM
it looks so much like Similo...... its weird. Pretty though.

J.R. Hudson
02-03-2007, 03:22 PM
I really enjoyed this one. Very poetic.

I too thought Similo when I saw it. I kept expecting the long shots of the desert to reveal a white car. :P

Nevertheless, very poetic. The score was wonderful.

Are you really OUT ?

Why ?

Nicolas
02-03-2007, 03:55 PM
I know it looks like Similo. It's a HOMAGE to Macgregor. A homage. D'you know what that means, Mac? I look up to this guy.

I wonder how you guys got to see it. We were supposed to be out...

spidey
02-03-2007, 03:57 PM
oh lord.

macgregor
02-03-2007, 05:56 PM
Here comes Similo part2.

Tom Marshall
02-03-2007, 06:00 PM
What the ??

Nicolas
02-03-2007, 06:05 PM
I stated it clearly off from the start. Read the 4th post of the thread.

Tom Marshall
02-03-2007, 06:12 PM
I'm not saying there's anything at all wrong with emulating a style you like. I really liked your short... I'm just wondering where all this animosity is coming from...

Nicolas
02-03-2007, 06:17 PM
animosity?

Tom Marshall
02-03-2007, 06:22 PM
Everyone's jumping on you because you "supposedly" copied Similo. Visually, it was similar, but other than that... unique.

Nicolas
02-03-2007, 06:25 PM
Oh I knew what the risk of doing this was. Macgregor is my friend and I admire his work. This is just a homage to his best work. I like to direct other kinds of stories. Ever heard of Buñuel? ;)

macgregor
02-03-2007, 06:40 PM
Tell them about Godard. Nicolas always make shortfilms with people talking about Godard. I wonder why in this shortfilm no one says Godard at least once... :/

Nicolas
02-03-2007, 06:44 PM
Porque es un homenaje a tí, michi

Yes, I love godard. So. here doesnt? And you love Orson Welles.... tell them about Orson welles and Kurosawa. :D

wesley
02-04-2007, 06:31 AM
really loved how this was shot, great job on that. The story didnt really connect with me, i'll watch it again later :D

iSTy
02-04-2007, 09:22 AM
Shots were good, another film to make you think. Oh and I liked the music too.
Thank you.

Shawn Philip Nelson
02-04-2007, 05:24 PM
The shots were breathtakinly beautiful, but there wasn't a plot, just an effimate guy musing. How is this drama? The music is beautiful and dang, the shots are just so good.

deedive
02-04-2007, 06:42 PM
definitely one of the best

Geoff_R
02-05-2007, 01:27 PM
Cinematography is some of the best in the fest. I love the opening shots, I'm a fan of expansive landscapes. Enough has been said here about the cinematography though, and I do admit, it's very good. What I really like is the story/voiceover work. I like the message that is presented; the way the character is dealing with inner turmoil (lots of great subtleties in the performances). The extreme closeups are very nice as well.

This is also one of the few films I've seen that really feels like a true short film. I really enjoyed it.

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 11:35 AM
Hey, thanks for that positive feedback.

Doyle
02-06-2007, 11:47 AM
I've now seen all the films and since I can't officially vote, I'll do it here in the threads of the films I enjoy. Because of how much I loved Similo, I loved this piece. And for reasons you've stated above, it did have a sort of connection to that. Definitely the best shot composition of the bunch. But it stood on it's own, and had some great moments. This was probably my #2. Well done!

And just to give my quick "Academy" hit list of winners (as I will also do in the various other threads):
Best Picture: Wasted
Best Cinematography: TEMPO
Best Screenplay: Wasted
Runners Up to Best Picture: TEMPO, Eighteen Seconds
Notables: Ajar, Not the Same, After Class, Middle Man

-Ben

Mark Harris
02-06-2007, 12:19 PM
Yeah, the shots were stunning. Makes me think I need to get the hell out of NYC and to some decent landscapes.

But even at 3 min, it was WAY too long for nothing to happen. I got really hopeful when the old guy showed up that you were going to take us on some surreal and trippy journey with him through the desert, maybe something Sci-Fi. But when nothing STILL happened, I'm sorry to say, it just amounted to a Life-Insurance commercial.

Also, the music combined with the philosophy made the message a little new-agey for me, but that's more taste than filmmaking critique.

In the end, I think this kind of thing is just too easy. You are clearly a skilled and talented shooter and shooting beautiful things is something you can do well. But telling a story is very hard, and even now, as I work on the second cut of my own film, I kick myself for all of the little things I missed or screwed up on, etc. Anyway, I would like to have seen the images serve a story.

Do you have a site or something with other work of yours?

Blaine
02-06-2007, 12:28 PM
My problem with this is a case of all style no substance. It looked nice, though the use of the voice over drove home the fact that you weren't SHOWING me a story, but instead, trying to TELL me a story... It didn't take me anywhere.

TEMPO- The Wrath of Indiffernce...indifferent.

J.R. Hudson
02-06-2007, 12:31 PM
I agree; I enjoyed it, don't get me wrong ... but it was basically a rip off of SIMILO and too obvious at that.

Still nice

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 12:38 PM
But when nothing STILL happened, I'm sorry to say, it just amounted to a Life-Insurance commercial.



I loved this one. Really, no hard feelings :D Made me laugh.




Do you have a site or something with other work of yours?


Coming right up, just finished a short in which I don't have anything to do with the cinematography, only direction. Will show you as soon as it's done. ;)

Mark Harris
02-06-2007, 01:01 PM
I loved this one. Really, no hard feelings :D Made me laugh.




Coming right up, just finished a short in which I don't have anything to do with the cinematography, only direction. Will show you as soon as it's done. ;)


Sorry, that might have been a dumb thing to say, but I was actually trying to make some points rather than say: Didn't like it, which I think it useless to you. :)

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 01:03 PM
No, no, I'm not being ironic or anything, I mean it, it was a rather elegant and nice way of saying things and, IMHO, very softly I will say (whisper)...youre right. :)

Aaron Marshall
02-06-2007, 01:58 PM
I agree; I enjoyed it, don't get me wrong ... but it was basically a rip off of SIMILO and too obvious at that.

Still nice

Ok good, I'm glad someone else thought that it was a stylistic ripoff of Similo. You did a great job at it. If you're going to pick a director to mimic, Macgregor is a sound choice. The cinematography, set design and all looks great. Though what greatly differs from Mac's work is; the writing. It lacks something. It seemed too film student-like or pseudo depth. Like smoking pot out on the grassy hillside saying "Whoa dude, like what if D-O-G really spells Cat?"

I did like the overall theme in the writing, but it seemed like it would come from someone with a bad attitude. The cruel joke of getting old? I just don't think it's good to look at it in such a negative way. I don't see it as a wrath. I see it as an experience, and pretty thankful to have made it this far. You could get stabbed, or hit by a mack truck.

The music was nice. It reminded me of Vangelis, but not engineered as tightly. There's just something that bugs me about certain synth music. I don't like when they have a sound that seems directly recorded from a synthesizer. I mean you're already in the digital domain using synthetic instruments, exploit all the technical aspects you possibly can out of such a source. Don't treat synths like acoustic instruments. I guess I just didn't like the mixes. The composition was solid, though. I think that's why I'm being so hard on the mix. There's a great potential. If the compositions weren't so good, I wouldn't have even commented.

macgregor
02-06-2007, 01:59 PM
Hahaha, the music is Vangelis.

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 02:05 PM
You shouldn't have commented, then. The music is Vangelis.

Oh, and it's not about seeing aging as a cruel joke. It's not about getting old, it's about taking the wrong steps, about how much of your moves can you really decide. Not about getting old. BTW, some great writers DID see aging as a negative thing (which is not the case here), for example, Francisco de Quevedo ("When we are born we begin to die.") or most filmmakers from German Expressionism. It's just a different way of seeing things, I guess.

Oh, and by the way, if you read the fourth post of this thread, I state off from the start that the objective was actually ripping off Similo.

Aaron Marshall
02-06-2007, 02:09 PM
Hahaha, the music is Vangelis.

Really?! Oh well. There's certain stuff out of him I don't like that falls under the badly mixed category.


Hp..........

I watch your film, give you my honest opinion and all I get is this reply?

Oh yeah, and I really disliked the nasally voice over.

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 02:15 PM
Oh, it wasn't for you! But I edited that. Sorry if you thought it WAS for you.

Aaron Marshall
02-06-2007, 02:18 PM
hahaha! Whoops.

Seriously though, the voice over is something I wanted to mention but forgot.

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 02:19 PM
It was for macgregor, dumbass.

spidey
02-06-2007, 02:25 PM
:-o .

Aaron Marshall
02-06-2007, 02:26 PM
sorry, I feel stupid. I admit I'm a bit of a dumbass. :embarasse

Anyway...........about your film? Any thoughts on what I actually said pertaining to your film?

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 02:50 PM
You're totally right about mostly everything you said. You did screw up regarding the score. The voice over sucks, I know, strange you never mentioned the funny accent also, I'm waiting for the voiceover dubbing... And it is a ripoff, that's what the whole thing was made for. I'm sorry you didn't like it.

Aaron Marshall
02-06-2007, 03:09 PM
I like it. It's in my top 5 of the fest. I'm hard on it because I liked so many other aspects. I heard Dahopa say something I really liked about Eighteen Seconds. It went something like "I have a phonebook sized list of praises, and a laundry list of complaints. I don't have time to get into the phonebook content so I'll just discuss the smaller complaints"

I don't think I screwed up on the score critique. I guess I was benchmarking it by Vangelis' better mixed works. There's a lot of his work I don't like on a technical level. I'm sort of an audiophile. Sorry Vangelis, you still rock.

Nicolas
02-06-2007, 03:12 PM
If the compositions weren't so good, I wouldn't have even commented.

Wonder what this meant... :D

Aaron Marshall
02-06-2007, 03:30 PM
Wonder what this meant... :D

It means the composition was good. BUT, the mixes, the actual technical process of putting the compositional content together wasn't too hot. It's bland more of the new age variety than space music, which is what I love from Vangelis.

New Age = not very evocative or textural, flat, like a set that's not lit that well.

space music = evocative, deep textural depth, Blade Runner for example

This is one area where I'm not a dumbass. I gotta have some saving grace. :)

Tom Marshall
02-08-2007, 09:30 PM
It means the composition was good. BUT, the mixes, the actual technical process of putting the compositional content together wasn't too hot. It's bland more of the new age variety than space music, which is what I love from Vangelis.

New Age = not very evocative or textural, flat, like a set that's not lit that well.

space music = evocative, deep textural depth, Blade Runner for example

This is one area where I'm not a dumbass. I gotta have some saving grace. :)

Ahh, Vangelis... good stuff! :beer:

Darkline
02-11-2007, 04:23 AM
Hi Nicolas,

I loved the style of this too. Ripping off or not, you can only do this if you have an eye for cinema, which you clearly do.

I think you've been very gracious in all the criticism too. As it's clearly a homage I won't give this an in-depth review as it's all been said here; but I'd like to see more of your work.

androoow
02-12-2007, 07:41 PM
the music has a cold quality because that was what Vangelis was going for on this one ..from " Antarctica " movie ( the one the recent "8 below" movie copied )..

Vangelis is probably the musician most responsible for making electronic music sound less cold and warm , if it does sound that way ..its his choice as he mixes all his work himself.

and he's about as far removed from bland new age music as is possible.

i thought the music went well in this film , but then his music seems to go well with most visuals.

i liked the film .. one of the few i managed to watch all way through.

doncamillo
04-17-2007, 09:46 AM
Sorry to barge in so late, but I just had to share this as nobody else has made the remark, anybody else noticed it? :D

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