Playstation3 is a Steal? [Archive] - DVXuser.com -- The online community for filmmaking

Mike McNeese

11-15-2006, 08:27 AM

Maybe I'm going crazy...

The PS3 is $500-600, right? Ridiculous price for a game console.

BUT, it plays Blu-ray Discs, no? The cheapest Blu-ray player I can find is still around $1000. So, does that not make the new PS3 a heck of a deal?

Jeremy Ordan

11-15-2006, 08:30 AM

It's only a bargain because if you can get one at $600 tomorrow you can flip it on Ebay for $1900. Insane, but if you can score 2-3 of them... well then.

Then again, I don't play video games

Barry_Green

11-15-2006, 08:53 AM

It'd be a bargain only if you were gung-ho to torch $1,000 on a blu-ray player. If you were the first guy on the block to buy a LaserDisc, then this might seem like a great deal.

Apparently you can buy the $200 HD-DVD add-on for the XBOX 360 and adapt it to run on a Windows PC and have a fully-functional high-def player, so $600 for a PS3? Buy it for what it is, if that's what you want...

Regular DVD players are down to $30. blu-ray players for $1000? Don't count on 'em sticking at that price point for very long! I think it's pretty doubtful that many consumers will look at it and say "why yes, I'd like to spend 33x as much".

HorseFilms

11-15-2006, 08:57 AM

I think it's pretty doubtful that many consumers will look at it and say "why yes, I'd like to spend 33x as much".

Especially when you consider that the format might not catch on and you could be stuck with the BetaMax of the 21st century.:)

Brandon Rice

11-15-2006, 09:15 AM

I would say if you want it, it's a good deal... I am going for the 360 eventually myself...

Mike McNeese

11-15-2006, 09:23 AM

I'm not getting either I'm perfectly happy with my NES emulator. But if I had to go out tomorrow and get a Blu-ray player...

HorseFilms

11-15-2006, 09:38 AM

My Atari 2600 with Sega Genesis controllers would get lonely if I bought one of these.

Mike McNeese

11-15-2006, 10:11 AM

You have a 2600 with Genesis controllers? So, what do you do with the extra 5 buttons!?

HorseFilms

11-15-2006, 11:10 AM

They all do the same thing. It's great because 2600 controllers can be hard to come by these days.:beer:

Barry_Green

11-15-2006, 11:30 AM

Latest news is that the PS3 isn't fully backwards compatible; some existing games won't play at all on it, some only work partially, some sort of work and then lock up. Sony really, really needs to get this one right, and it ain't looking like any sort of slam dunk. On the plus side, the Japanese customers have been snatching it up, so maybe they'll pull the rabbit out of the hat after all.

morten

11-15-2006, 03:35 PM

Sony is selling the PS3 at a loss. It's reported that it costs them more than $800 us to make largely due to the extremely expensive third-party Blue Ray player. So yes, if you're buying the PS3 for it's Blue Ray capabilities it is a steal because you get sponsorship from the Big Wigs over at Sony.

remains to be seen if the format will stick tho. As far as I know the onlo people who still use Laser Disc are asian Karaoke enthusiasts.

mor10

morten

11-16-2006, 03:59 PM

Looks like the geeks over at Gizmodo.com agree with me. Here's a complete rundown of the production cost of the PS3 and proof that Sony is indeed selling the machines at a substantial loss:

"The premium model costs $840.35 to make (Which sells at a loss for $600.)"

The whole story (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/ps3-a-bargain-worth-840-powerful-as-a-supercomputer-215203.php)

mor10
*still not buying a PS3 but maybe a 360 after christmas when the prices drop*

Mike McNeese

11-16-2006, 05:40 PM

I just went over to Best Buy to pick up some CD-Rs. There were 12 tents parked in front of the store. At first I thought, 'What a bunch of losers.' But seeing as how many of them are going to be listing their new PS3 on eBay and making a few hundred bucks off of it, made me kind of wish I had nothing better to do tonight.

Anhar Miah

11-16-2006, 05:57 PM

Yes this may be true, but I think Sony is not thinking about short term basis, think about how long Sony PS3 Will be around, in that time, initially they will sell at a loss, BUT as time increases these 3rd party componets will drop in price eventually it turns the other way round, NEXT a console is not much good with out games, so even if you are selling at a loss, the games revenue can bridge that gap. The Games industry is Huge.

Its like printers, the manufactures make more on the consumables than the actual price of the printer (thats why they are so damn cheap these days) and they have contracts with major outlets stopping them from stocking 3rd party Ink!

Anyway Its Sonys Headache.

rook

11-16-2006, 07:49 PM

If you are a gamer the price is irrelivant. There are not that many options. You are either going to buy it or not. Price is after.

And is it a real surprise to anyone that this thing will have problems? They're rushing it out. It's a serious piece of tech to generate HD graphics in real time.

The gamers have been camped out for days in toronto.
-rook

ramsaur

11-17-2006, 12:10 AM

a little off the topic but this does relate to ps3.. this is the highest price yet on ebay i've seen for the ps3!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3APIC&viewitem=&item=170050828961&rd=1&rd=1

Sacksnack

11-17-2006, 12:39 AM

I think that one's a joke, some punk bidding crazy. But I have seen a lot going in the area of $2500. My buddy get's 2 of 'em tomorrow...we'll see what he gets for them.

-Kevin

Shaw

11-17-2006, 03:51 AM

REAL gamers go for PCs :D

*ducks*

Ryan Patrick O'Hara

11-17-2006, 03:53 AM

Who thinks Panasonic should join the race with SONY in video games? I wonder what that would be like.......

Anhar Miah

11-17-2006, 05:55 AM

They would have 24P for sure :)

Capt Quirk

11-17-2006, 06:06 AM

I'm sticking with my PS2, until I can't play it no more. Just got myself Marvel's Ultimate Alliance the other day, and we're playing the hell out of it.

spidey

11-17-2006, 07:57 AM

got my ps3 and im happy.

Mike McNeese

11-17-2006, 10:35 AM

got my ps3 and im happy.

So, did you have to sleep in a tent to get it...oh, wait, you're in JAP, right? They've been out for a couple days there, eh?

spidey

11-17-2006, 10:41 AM

nah im in the states as of now. I showed up at 6am fthursday, and was number 10 out of 10 so i was lucky. so i waited till 12:01 am and i got it.

Kholi

11-17-2006, 10:55 AM

Forget PS3 for now. There's nothing on it that looks interesting as far as gaming goes. And I'm definitely not hung up on Blu-Ray.

Next year, when Final Fantsay 13, Silent Hill, and the new Resident Evil hits? I'll have one.

Mike McNeese

11-17-2006, 11:24 AM

spidey, are you gonna list yours up on eBay like this jerk...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONY-PLAYSTATION-3_W0QQitemZ250050917778QQihZ015QQcategoryZ62053QQt cZphotoQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Beat Takeshi

11-17-2006, 11:36 AM

Heh, a few friends of mine sat first in line for 4 days waiting to buy only to sell them on Ebay.

Kholi

11-17-2006, 11:36 AM

Can't hate on them for exploiting the system.

Beat Takeshi

11-17-2006, 11:39 AM

You konw those rich folks will do anything to get thier kids what they want. Remember the whole tickle me elmo dolls selling for 6 grand?

Kholi

11-17-2006, 11:41 AM

Yeahp. It's not illegal. It's supply and demand.

Beat Takeshi

11-17-2006, 12:12 PM

economics at its finest

Jason Ramsey

11-17-2006, 12:17 PM

Apparently the PS3 is a steal. Literally! Some guy was standing outside a store trying to rob people when they came out with their new ps3's

Idiot.
Jason

infokill

11-17-2006, 01:00 PM

I WON A FREE PS3 LAST NIGHT :)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and ended up buying another to put on ebay!!!!!!!
!!!!!

Mike McNeese

11-17-2006, 01:30 PM

How'd you win one? By trading $600 with a WalMart associate?

infokill

11-17-2006, 02:13 PM

Circuit city here in nyc was selling 160 units and raffling 100.
I camped out for 2 1/2 days to buy a system (with the intentions of ebaying it)
And ended up being of the 100 raffle winners.
And they gave me the option to buy a system also. so i did. and im keeping one.
AND my friend camped with me so in total we have 3 systems (2 for ebay)

Crazy thing was, when the 100 winners we called and escorted into the store, we were told 2 things.
1-If you were under 18 you cant accept your prize without a parent
2-You still have to pay tax on the system (about $40)
If you didn’t meet any of the above-mentioned things you had 5min to get it.
So many people panicked trying to get there parents and/or begging people in the streets for money. A lot of people camped out just for the raffle and didn’t bring money.
lol. it was insane.

Mike McNeese

11-17-2006, 02:21 PM

Have you played it yet? What games?

Shaw

11-17-2006, 03:33 PM

HOLY SH!T!!! One of these things just sold on eBay for 15K!

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/17/opinion_ps3_ebay_sales/

Jason Ramsey

11-17-2006, 03:46 PM

15k? Why? Imagine the monster gaming computer one could build for 15k. That is just silly.

Jason

vidled

11-17-2006, 03:57 PM

Well just because it sold for 15k$ doesn't mean that money changes hands. Check eBay for closed auctions on PS3 systems, then re-sort them to show highest price first, and you'll see that most high dollar PS3 auctions had their high bidder be de-registered by eBay.
Sellers and buyers beware!
Looks like this PS3 launch is drawing out [someof] the worst in humanity, so for the honest sellers/buyers there's definitely an increased risk.

Geoff_R

11-17-2006, 04:13 PM

I was planning on camping out to get one. I could have used the profits to get an M2 and some lenses hah. But I have barely used eBay and they've got really strict policies specifically for selling the PS3. You've got to have sold enough merchandize and hold a certain feedback rating.

infokill

11-17-2006, 04:13 PM

Have you played it yet? What games?

I've been in bed recovering from 21/2 days of an endurance test lol.
Make sure i dont get sick.
My bro just left to buy some games. The system only came with a blu-ray copy of Taladaga nights (sp?)
I really didnt do any research on this thing at all, other than how much i can get on ebay. Dont even know what games are out yet.

Im waiting for the Wii :)

Geoff_R

11-17-2006, 04:58 PM

spidey

11-17-2006, 05:26 PM

yea everyone but me was buying them to sell on ebay

KingVidiot

11-19-2006, 07:45 PM

Well after playing a friend's PS3 and Xbox 360 together this weekend, I have to admit that you are getting what you pay for. The graphics potential is much better on the PS3, although a few games I saw haven't pulled out all of the stops yet. Two of the best examples are the Call of Duty 3 comparison and the upcoming Muhammad Ali game. The Ali screenshots are night-and-day different, with the PS3 as the obvious winner.

Personally, I prefer PC games for the quality, resolution, controller possibilities and modding capability. However, the PS3 is impressive. Blu-Ray is nice, but if I can't master my stuff to the format yet I don't want it. Sheesh, I don't even have an HDTV yet.

The forthcoming PS3 game called Assassins looks incredible, and as a huge fan of the similar Thief series, this should be a good game.

If you prefer thumb controller-based systems, then this is definitely the best looking of the bunch. I heard that the 360 has 1080i as a spec, but the current output port only supports 720p? Does that mean that Microsoft will be selling some crazy adapter to make more money? I'm not sure since I'm no HD expert.

griffin

11-24-2006, 10:14 PM

I just heard some guy in Tennessee got shot and killed waiting in line for a PS3... apparently, somebody decided to hold up the line with a gun and when this guy refused to hand over his money, he was shot. Anyone else hear of this?

I heard this exact same thing but in Connecticut. It was a guy from Massachusetts that took the short drive down to wait in line and the line got robbed, the guy said no and a kid shot him in the chest. There were two guys holding up the line, one had a shot gun and the other just a hand gun.

I will eventually get a PS3, it won't be any time soon but will most likely favor that over the 360. If PS3 doesn't really have any good exclusive games, I may go w/ the 360. I think that the ps3 is really more so a next generation gaming system, more than the 360.

Anhar Miah

11-25-2006, 06:23 AM

griffin

11-25-2006, 02:29 PM

Hmm, word is PS3 has some kind of scaling bug because its meant to do 720P, if you have as set that does not do 720P and only 1080i then it forces and spits out 480P BUT it should be fixed in a software update (unless this is old news and its already been done)

So for now if your HDTV is 1080i only then get a 720P to see how PS3 really looks like

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/23-11-2006-4135.html

Anhar

You would think that they would have tested everything time and time again and made sure it worked every way before releasing it. I know they wanted to get it out before 'the holiday season' but they should have had everything fixed first instead of having to download updates, which i don't want to do when I get one, which'll be in a long time.