Envision & RebeccaD Present "Where Silence Falls"

[Norm Sanders]

2ND PLACE WINNER - DVXUSER DRAMAFEST


www.eefilm.com/silence (http://www.eefilm.com/silence)
Click the above link to view "Where Silence Falls", DVXuser DramaFest entry.

- Scroll down for Behind The Scenes shots, clips & more! -

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2-1-07 UPDATE: Please note, when viewing the film, that this was shot in 23.98/24P, however when the project was initially uploaded, it was done so incorrectly to an interlaced 29.97 timeline. Due to time restrictions & resources, it was decided to submit the film interlaced, however we will be releasing the slightly extended film in it's original progressive frame rate after the festival. Color correction will also be altered being able to do so natively within Mac/FCP at that time.


PRINCIPLE CAST
Rebecca Dunn as Amy Hennison
Norm Sanders as Eric Hennison
Reid Phillips as Bill

EXTRA
Shahna Sanders as Concerned Neighbor

CREW
Norm Sanders - Director/Producer/Editor (DVXuser 'Envision')
Rebecca Dunn - Co Producer (DVXuser 'RebeccaD')
Justin R. Durban - Composer (DVXuser 'Edgen')
Forrest Burger - Editor (DVXuser 'Forrest Burger')
Dan Ayers - DP/Steadicam [I](www.steadidan.com (http://www.steadidan.com/))
Stefan Scherperel - 1st AD (DVXuser 'scharky')
Ryan Walters - 1st AC (DVXuser '235 Studios')
Steve Waters - Gaffer
James Eubank - Set Designer [IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1838078/)]
Shawn Nelson - Sound Mixer [IMDB (http://imdb.com/name/nm2092431/)] [I](DVXuser 'shawneous')
Jerry Turner - Boom Operator (DVXuser /'fixitinpost')
Alison Binford - Hair/Make Up Artist
Robin Steigmann - Catering/Craft Services


[I]SPECIAL THANKS

Rebecca Dunn, I'm incredibly blessed to have had our paths cross. I wish I could have started working with you sooner, but will make the most that I can going forward with putting you in challenging roles, always confident that you'll rise to the occasion & supersede what I could have hoped for. If this is what you want to do, you can go VERY far, I have no doubt. You know I believe in you, my friend.
Reid Phillips, my buddy for over 28 years now. It is awesome to watch you get into your roles, and nail them so well. Thank you for the commitment you bring to the table, and your desire to throw everything you have into your character. You were fantastic, and I couldn't have asked for more. If you pursue this, I'm convinced that you too will go far.
Shahna Sanders, you stood in SO well as the Concerned Neighbor. I smell Oscars! Seriously, Honey, thank you for being so supportive all the time, and for helping to clear the kids out during the weekend so we could take over the house. You're the best, and glad we were able to get you in the film! I love you.
Dan Ayers, you're the man. Thanks so much for bringing so much value to the production with your Steadicam expertise, eye for a shot, and creative input! I find myself extremely fortunate to have crossed paths with you, and hope you had as much fun out of working together as I did. I'm looking forward to doing TRINITY RIVER with you!
Ryan Walters, I was SUPER glad to still be able to work with you, and Dan was impressed with your attitude & work ethics ... you made an excellent 1st AC. Aside from just your technical & creative abilities, I value your friendship. Thank you for your honesty & support in all that we've worked on together to date, and will continue to do going forward.
Stefan Scherperel, there is no doubt in my mind that WHERE SILENCE FALLS would not be the film it's going to be without having had you on set. Thanks for your sacrifice of coming down for the weekend, even though you'd already been traveling for a week+ in Vegas for work. Your attention to detail, killer BTS photos, and ability to tactfully & quietly keep us pretty darn close to schedule, is much appreciated! You're also just a quality top notch guy, and fun to have around. I want to work with you again.
Steve Waters, you're the definition of a gentleman. Always extremely thoughtful & kind on set, while cranking out great lighting & ready to jump in at a moments notice for an adjustment. You and Dan worked really well together, and it'll show well in the film visually. I laughed when you thanked me after wrap for having you on set ... it's I who needs to thank you for everything that you brought to this production.
James Eubank, speaking of working well visually, you were always three steps ahead. Everyone was impressed with your attention to detail and continuity. You bring a great value to any set you're on, and I plan to always work with you. Also thanks for your humor ... love it.
Robin Steigmann, thanks for feeding us the great meals, and for constantly being around to make sure the craft services were kept fresh & available. You are what helped to keep us all in good moods! Full bellies make for happy folks ... thanks!
Alison Binford, your make up & hair looked INCREDIBLE in the HD footage. I don't believe I could have gotten a better MUA to work with, last minute or not. Thanks for stepping in at the last minute to help us out this weekend, and I will look forward to working with you some more for sure. You were also a blast to have around, as you're a riot to listen to ... funny, funny, funny!
Shawn Nelson, you also stepped in at the last minute to help us, and I can't thank you enough. The equipment you brought to the table allowed us to be able to have the Steadicam free & clear of wires, and the redundant audio track idea was brilliant, as we'll have three good mono track levels to choose from, should one be too quite, one too loud, etc. Thank you for your involvement on this short!
Jerry Turner, your tech expertise with the computers, as well as your willingness to jump in where ever needed really helped to make things run smoothly. I also believe you & Shawn worked well together, with you as the boom operator, and am looking forward to syncing the sound up with the picture here in the next few days! Thanks for jumping in on this production, with only a week's notice.
Justin Durban, you helped marry all of the picture, performance, and sound into one beautiful piece with your score, pushing the emotions to new heights that wouldn't be there otherwise without your involvement. You're incredibly gifted at what you do, and I'm ecstatic that you're involved with both this short & the feature that's in development!
Forrest Burger, last but certainly not least. You saved us, man! You were gracious enough to take my call, at your home, from a perfect stranger, and then even on top of that you sacrificed your Sunday by hanging with us in the editing room for over 10+ hours to get our film into a final locked edit. If it weren't for you, I'm not sure what I would have done, since I know bupkis about Mac/FCP! Thank you! You're also an extremely talented editor, with a great eye for continuity and flow. You're a perfectionist, like myself, so I REALLY appreciate the way you work! Looking forward to seeing if we can make the budget work with TRINITY RIVER to have you be a part of it.So to everyone involved with the making of WHERE SILENCE FALLS ... :beer: :dankk2:


http://www.eefilm.com/silence/images/silence-slomo.jpg
Click on [Quicktime (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/clips/silence-slomo.mov)] or [Windows Media Player (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/clips/silence-slomo.wmv)]
to see a short clip we were not able to fit into the festival version of the film.


http://www.eefilm.com/silence/images/silence-rebecca.jpg
[I](SPOILER ALERT!! Do not watch prior to watching the short film!)
Click on [Quicktime (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/clips/silence-rebecca.mov)] or [Windows Media Player (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/clips/silence-rebecca.wmv)]
to see Rebecca L. Dunn's uncut performance from "Where Silence Falls".

[Norm Sanders]

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BTS - Full Length Video (8:35)!
Click on the blue links below to view, or right click & save to your desktop!!

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iPod - Portable Player (320x240 - 45MB) iPod (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/bts/video/silencebts.m4v)

BTS - RebeccaD waving to everyone on DVXuser .... yes, waving to YOU specifically ... you know who you are.
REBECCA'S WAVE (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/clips/rebeccawave.wmv)




Some GREAT BTS pics taken by Stefan on 01/13/07

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http://www.eefilm.com/silence/bts/thumbs/silence8-thumb.jpg (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/bts/silence8.jpg) . http://www.eefilm.com/silence/bts/thumbs/silence7-thumb.jpg (http://www.eefilm.com/silence/bts/silence7.jpg)




MORE BTS PHOTOS!!! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/93037288@N00/) In addition to the great pics that Stefan took, James Eubank contributed as well with a bunch of cool BTS shots. Until I can get an official site together for WHERE SILENCE FALLS, and integrate these into a slide shot on the site, you can check out his pictures here (thank you James!!).

[Norm Sanders]

Home for Q & A quick reference for those visiting this thread. I'll try to update this section with some specific questions/answers that come up through out the thread.

[Brandon Rice]

Cool Norm! Nice title, and I like the banner!

[Jason Ramsey]

Cool. Best wishes to you. Hope it all goes well for ya. I'll keep checking back for updates.

Jason

[Larry Rutledge]

Cool deal Norm...looking forward to seeing what you come up with. :thumbsup:

[ZFarms Productions]

can't wait to see your entry Norm! good luck

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks folks. This will be a short that will cover a LOT of basis for me, in that I'll be working with most (if not all) of the same team that will be on the feature I'm developing & aiming to shoot March/April, called TRINITY RIVER, also a drama.

Rebecca's slated to be the lead in TR as well, so it's just more exposure for her, and will also be a great opportunity for us to test some of the camera styles/movements & lighting that we want.

Speaking of Rebecca, not only can she act really well & look great (starred in HorrorFest's "R.E.M.", but she's actually REALLY creative, and brings some good ideas & dialogue to the table for the script ... so this will be a fun venture to have her more involved in.

If you guys get a chance to check out Dan's reel (the DP), I think you'll like it!

[RebeccaD]

Thanks for the props Norm. I'm looking forward to this venture.

[Mark Harris]

yes, more RebeccaD please.

[235 Studios]

Looking forward to seeing this one! Love the banner!

[Ted Arabian]

Very exciting news here! Congrats on the venture. Looking forward to it!

Love the banner!

Ted

[Friar]

Ah cool.

Something about the banner and title seems really pro!

[Norm Sanders]

yes, more RebeccaD please.

LOL, yeah I figured there'd be some of you out there VERY pleased to see her in another film again. In fact, you get to see her at least TWICE in this fest, because she's also the lead in Ryan Walter's (235 Studios) SEMELE.

Thanks for the props on the banner, folks. I was actually questioning how cool it looked, because there are others that REALLY stand out to me (i.e. Ryan's SEMELE), but I'm glad you're all liking it.

Speaking of 235 Studios, it's amazing that I've rec'd several PM's today asking the same thing, so I'll just go ahead & address it here, even putting it into the front page's Q&A, if I have to. A few have wondered if 235 Studios and have I have gone separate ways. Not really; just branching out.

Ryan had initially tapped me to direct SEMELE, when he first came up with the idea. He's looking to build projects under his own banner/label, which I can't blame him, and so this was a project he wanted to produce. However, as he continued to rewrite the script, his vision for it continuously became more clear, to the point that he decided he'd like to direct it himself. Since we'd not gotten too far into the process with his film, it was a perfect time for that transition.

But, with the opportunity for some healthy competition, as well as all of the afore mentioned (Warm up the TRINITY RIVER crew, test camera/lighting ideas, etc.), I decided to enter the fest separately.

Are we still friends? Yes. Will we likely work together again in the future? Absolutely. This will simply be an excellent growing experience for both of us.

[235 Studios]

Are we still friends? Yes. Will we likely work together again in the future? Absolutely. This will simply be an excellent growing experience for both of us.

Well said / put. :beer:

This short should be good- if you haven't checked out the DP's site yet, you should- he's got some great stuff on there!

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks, Ryan. But don't get us wrong, folks. I'm sure we both secretly hope to destroy, crush, decimate, and otherwise annihilate the other in competition, leaving them crying on the curb ... but that's what friends do, right?! :grin:

[Brandon Rice]

LOL! Right on!

[235 Studios]

Thanks, Ryan. But don't get us wrong, folks. I'm sure we both secretly hope to destroy, crush, decimate, and otherwise annihilate the other in competition, leaving them crying on the curb ... but that's what friends do, right?! :grin:

Right! :beer: :thumbsup: :beer:

[jeremytuttle]

Looking good, I like the banner.

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks Jeremy! I actually really like yours too ... great coloring, and a blurred/unknown subject always draws some appeal as well! :thumbsup:

UPDATE: Just got off the phone with Stefan Scherperel (DVXuser member 'scharky'), and he's onboard! Looking forward to putting you up at our house that weekend, Stefan! Should be fun! :beer:

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

Hey Norm, good to hear you and Ryan aren't now mortal enemies. I was wondering when I saw you two weren't collaborating. I was trying to think of a delicate way to ask Ryan if you guys had a falling out :-).

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to seeing your short! Steve Waters is a friend of mine so I know your lighting will be top notch!

Btw, we need to hang out soon, consume some fine NW pints, etc.

[Beat Takeshi]

Heh, I see you do the same thing and reserve the first few posts for stuff. I almost missed mine, I pressed post onthe second one and it said to wait 30 seconds and when it finally went through someone elses was right below mine.

[Jason Ramsey]

That is a pretty good idea. I wish I had thought of it :) Ah, well. I guess I'll just have to keep my one post nice and organized as I have stuff to put on it.

Jason

[Beat Takeshi]

You can delete your first one and restart it like I did the last fest to clear out the chatter and get those first few spots.

[Norm Sanders]

Hey Shawn! I don't think I knew you were a member on here ... glad to see you here & thanks! Yeah, Steve's a great guy & has some nice tricks to use for lighting, etc.

Definitely beer soon ... just need to get our schedules to mesh!

[Norm Sanders]

Initial post updated with poster (not totally happy with it, may still go through some revisions).

Also, Justin Durban (Edgen) is added as Composer!

[Brandon Rice]

Oh Norm, just saw you're in the film! Looking forward to seeing more acting from you!

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks Brandon. :) I thought after PANDORA I wouldn't want to do it again (direct & act), but it was also my first time working with an actual crew in that film, so it was a LOT at the moment. I really dig gritty stuff for acting, and this will certainly do it, and I've had more experience working with a crew, defining vision, etc. since so I should have a less stressful time this go around ... and I'll also count on a good 1st AD to keep me in check as well, since I won't be able to see myself on camera at the same time, lol.

[Edgen]

Looking forward to it norm! :) Anxious to see it all come together.

cheers and good luck!
/j

[Brandon Rice]

cool stuff Norm.

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks guys. REALL looking forward to seeing what you do with the score on this Justin, especially since I think this genre (or anything epic) is totally your strenght! :thumbsup:

Just updated the poster a little with an animated tagline ... still haven't found THE one I want yet! :)

[RebeccaD]

[quote=Envision] looking forward to seeing what you do with the score on this Justin, especially since I think this genre (or anything epic) is totally your strength! :thumbsup:


I agree with Norm. Especially hearing some of the amazing scores you've done previously, I really am excited to see your work on this film. :)

[Edgen]

Thanks rebecca! I'm pretty pumped myself. WHOLE notes and Piano. isn't that equation to all drama films? :) (j/k)

/j

[Herman Witkam]

Hey guys, Looking forward to this film, and Justin's score. Great poster!

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks Herman! :)

Just finished the 1st draft of the script today, at about 9 pages. It's a rough, but a solid structure that Rebecca & I just need to trim back now, then see how it paces out.

[Norm Sanders]

K, Rebecca & her family just left my house, and we did more of a revision, but we'll call it Draft 2 anyway. Read the parts outloud, trying to pace it out, etc., and it came out to approx 5 minutes, so we'll have room to spare with adding more dramatic moments/beats, etc.

We both feel extremely good about it, and believe this is one that will leave people with a 'wow' effect on how it'll make them feel after watching it.

Since we're not filming until 1st or 2nd weekend of January, we'll have plenty of time for pre-production & planning. Will be updating the site with BTS, etc. soon.

We're still not sure if we'll shoot this DVX or HVX yet, depending on resources.

[Kyle Stebbins]

Nice thread, love the title. Rebecca D rules!!

[Norm Sanders]

Cool, thanks Kyle ... she'll like hearing that. We've made sure this one has a pretty wide range of emotions, and she'll have some moments to just 'let it all out'. Really looking forward to rehearsals!

[Kyle Stebbins]

No doubt, it's great giving actors or actresses a totally blank canvas where they can splatter paint (emotion) all over it!!! this is going to be awesome, norm.

[PDX_DVX]

I just looked at your DP's reel, if I'm not mistaken I saw some shots from some pretty high profile stuff, that's awsome!

[Norm Sanders]

Yeah, he's shot 'Nip-Tuck', even DP'd & Steadicam for the 'Monk' series, some feature film work, etc. He moved up here from LA two years ago for a better place to raise his kids, and is looking for more local stuff that he doesn't have to travel for.

The short film sounded fun for him. Great for us! :thumbsup:

[Larry Rutledge]

Well, I just finished reviewing Norm's script and I have to say I think it will be the worst film he's ever made...

just kidding :evil: I really like the story, it covers a very interesting subject that potentially affects a lot of people. I'm really excited that it appears to have been written to fit within the festival time restraints. Though I understand the desire to make longer projects, I don't think cutting a short version of a longer film has worked well for anyone who has tried in past festivals.

The characters in this project are very believable in how they deal with the situation they are faced with, and the script does a great job of ramping up the "drama" quickly, yet still believably.

Honestly, not to downplay his previous projects one bit, but I think this could be Norm's best outing yet. Not only is it well constructed, but it deals with a topic that will potentially affect many of us at one time or another.

Good job, looking forward to seeing this project.

Peace,
Larry

[Brandon Rice]

I must say, after seeing the script, I am super excited about this as well, what a good premise and subject matter. Wow.

[Jason Ramsey]

Nice words from Larry there, aye?

Congras man. Looking forward

Jason

[Mark Johnson]

Really nice-looking project here. Sorry I haven't visited this thread before now.

That's exceptional to have this quality of experience to DP this. Will he shoot your feature as well?

***

Say, how do you guys rate to be able to review Norm's script?

[Larry Rutledge]

I have been working with Norm and his scripts for quite a while now. Not just his festival entries, but external projects as well. I guess you could say I am his unnofficial script consultant :)

[Brandon Rice]

Word. And Norm knows I love checking out his progress, scripts, and whatnot. :)

[Mark Johnson]

Well, someday perhaps I will earn my way into this august inner circle. I shall endeavor to convince Norm that my perspicacity could be of use to him.

[Larry Rutledge]

Oooohh.. shrewdness, huh? That might convince him :)

[Brandon Rice]

I shall endeavor to convince Norm that my perspicacity could be of use to him.

huh? :huh:

[Larry Rutledge]

http://www.google.com/custom?q=define%3A+perspicacity&sa=Search&client=pub-7653718622967847&channel=6224704308&forid=1&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23FFFFFF%3B VLC%3AFF9900%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3 AFFFFFF%3BALC%3A0000CC%3BLC%3A0000CC%3BT%3A000000% 3BGFNT%3A7777CC%3BGIMP%3A7777CC%3BLH%3A64%3BLW%3A8 0%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.isara.com%2Fimages%2Fisar a-google.gif%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.isara.com%3BLP%3 A1%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en

[Mark Johnson]

Did I misspell? I didn't think so but I don't have a spellcheck here. Perhaps I should have said my "perspicuous talents."

[Brandon Rice]

Shows you my level of education, LOL! Nice.

[Mark Johnson]

In the end, the aging short man with the big vocabulary wins.

[Larry Rutledge]

The secret to sounding like you know what Mark is talking about is going to Google.com and typing in:

"define: <mark's word>"

Then the wonder of the web makes it all come clear :grin:

[Brandon Rice]

Thanks Larry, does me a lot of good now!

[Mark Johnson]

Back when I was a young lawyer a friend gave me a book entitled "the superior person's guide to words" that was a tongue-in-cheek volume but it did have some amazingly cool words. I was hooked and since then I've particularly enjoyed trotting out big words to compensate for my dimunitive stature. One of my favorite things is to insult people with words they don't know. For instance, steatopygous .... means you have a big ass.

[Brandon Rice]

Wow... can I get one of those books? I do like big words like vindictive and vicarious and prevaricate

[Larry Rutledge]

I think this multi-page thread jack may turn Norm against all of us :eek:

[Jason Ramsey]

Is that like one of those, wear glasses, put your hand on your chin and say things like cornucopia?

Jason

[Brandon Rice]

hm yeah, good point Larry... back to Where Silence Falls, which by the way always reminds me of that movie called, Darkness Falls.

[Mark Johnson]

Kind of reminded me of a CD by Tom Hughes called "When Silence Falls." I do love the title though.

[Norm Sanders]

Ha, FUN thread-jack. Don't mind it at all, especially because I just learned some big words. :thumbsup: lol.

"When Silence Falls" was the runner up, but Rebecca & I decided "Where" had some more subtle under laying tones, and just felt/sounded better.

Brandon, isn't Darkness Falls a horror flick? I think I saw it, and if it's the one with Christian Slater, I thought it was aweful ... though the name has a ring to it. :grin:

Mark, I gave Larry access to the script because of the afore mentioned, which he stated, and also because he's not doing an official entry himself. I also knew Brandon wanted to see it, and COMPLETELY forgot that he was entering as well (no idea why I forgot that), so I kind of broke my rule of showing it to only those that aren't entering.

At least I'm fairly confident that he's far enough into his script/storyline that mine won't influence his at all. If you've got your completed as well, then I'd have no problem having you take a peak after I make some adjustments (just rec'd feedback from Jeff Hawley, writer of our SPARROW film as well as our feature we're working on, TRINITY RIVER) today. It'd be great to trade reads, if you're up for it.

Larry, thanks for the detailed kudos! Glad you liked it as well, Brandon. We're pretty excited about this one, and the emotions as well as social issues/ramifications we'll be able to explore with it!

[Mark Johnson]

That's very generous of you Norm. I would be honored to take a look. We're going to have ours nailed down this week and I will take you up on the offer once I can be sure we're through. I'll return the favor too.

I would mention that when Brandon was laying out his story to me this weekend he said, "oh, and then there's this scene where silence sort of falls ..."

[Brandon Rice]

I also knew Brandon wanted to see it, and COMPLETELY forgot that he was entering as well (no idea why I forgot that), so I kind of broke my rule of showing it to only those that aren't entering.

At least I'm fairly confident that he's far enough into his script/storyline that mine won't influence his at all.


Actually Larry's writing my script, so it'd only be he who would be affected, but we already had a solid treatment and everything, so no worries :)

[Brandon Rice]

I would mention that when Brandon was laying out his story to me this weekend he said, "oh, and then there's this scene where silence sort of falls ..."

MARK!!!!! haha!

[Larry Rutledge]

Actually Larry's writing my script, so it'd only be he who would be affected, but we already had a solid treatment and everything, so no worries :)

Right, I am writing Brandon's script, but as he says we already had our story well in place and mostly written before I looked at Norm's.

Plus, the story's are so different I don't think there is any risk of conflict.

[Brandon Rice]

totally, it's very different :)

[Norm Sanders]

No worries, I know Larry well enough that he'd probably TRY to go in the opposite direction now, just so there wasn't even the appearance of conflict. Good man, that Larry. :)

Look forward to it, Mark. ESPECIALLY since your thread has some GREAT promotional stuff ... it's been really fun to watch! Shoot me a heads up when you want to make that swap ... I'll have Jeff's adjustments in there by then as well. :beer:

[Brandon Rice]

I KNOW you wanna see the script to Checkmate Norm :) I am sure Larry can let ya take a look sometime soon.

And yeah, Larry is a good man...

Now back to Where Silence Falls! Which is a kick-butt title by the way!

[Norm Sanders]

That'd be GREAT, Brandon. So one of you hurry up & shoot it over to me! :grin:

[Brandon Rice]

haha, the first draft's gotta get done first ;) C'mon Larry! hehe. JK Larry's done a great job on the script so far, and should have the first draft done soon.

[Norm Sanders]

It's a SIX minute movie, Larry! Pull the lead out already. :grin: Just kidding. Thankfully I had some time this weekend to bang out the first draft, as our church had a Men's Retreat. So I had an hour+ drive on the way up to work on the laptop, as well as some breaks on Saturday to work on it ... then finished it on the drive back on Sunday.

Sunday night was Draft 2 over a sit down with Rebecca, and I'll make those other revisions today, which aren't enough changes to constitute calling it a THIRD Draft, so I'll just leave the title page at Draft 2 for now. :)

[Norm Sanders]

Larry, thanks for letting me read that first draft of "Checkmate". I've commented on your guys' thread, and will PM you my feedback. Thanks again for sharing! :)

[Larry Rutledge]

Cool, looking forward to your feedback :thumbsup:

[Norm Sanders]

PM'd you.

BTW, I've updated our script for "Where Silence Falls" already ... if you check that link I gave you & Brandon before, you'll see the subtle changes, which make it even stronger, IMO (well, and Jeff Hawley's opinion too, since they were his ideas :grin: )

[Larry Rutledge]

Cool, I'll check it out and give you my thoughts later. Jeff is the man :thumbsup: ... I hope to have half his talent someday.

[Norm Sanders]

You're a good writer, Larry, trust me. I've read a LOT of stuff over the last couple of years ... some scripts that I just put down after the first 10-15 pages because they were just THAT bad. You've got a SOLID base from which to grow from, which is a great thing.

Yeah, Jeff is pretty awesome, though. I also love the fact that not only is he good, but he's also extremely collaborative, and open to changes from his original vision, though he'll fight for what he believes in if he feels it's necessary.

[Norm Sanders]

Okay, I've decided to share (with those that are dying to see it) a PART of the script. Hopefully it's enough to wet your appetites without giving away too much of the climax. :)

"Where Silence Falls" Script Link (http://www.eefilm.com/dvxuser/silence.pdf)

[scharky]

Hey Norm, just found this thread finally, I never even noticed there was a drama fest section (shows how observant I really am, are you sure you want me on your crew :) .
Anyways, I'm looking forward to working with everyone, I think it should be a great experience.

[Brandon Rice]

Oh nice, you'll have a blast with Norm I am sure, he's a cool dude! And did I mention, Where Silence Falls is an awesome title!

[Norm Sanders]

Hey Norm, just found this thread finally, I never even noticed there was a drama fest section (shows how observant I really am, are you sure you want me on your crew :) .
Anyways, I'm looking forward to working with everyone, I think it should be a great experience.

LOL. Didn't I send you the link to this thread in a PM? :huh: :grin:

Oh, I also e-mailed you & the others on crew a link to the script last night. Look forward to your thoughts!

What does anyone else think of this: The festival rules say no showing any actual footage of the film prior to the festival, but it says nothing of sharing any of the script. I'm considering showing an additional page every week or two until the submission deadline, which would put me at having the last page or so unseen ...

Thought it'd be a fun way for folks to check back to the thread every week or so to see where the next page lead in the story, and then to build up to the end, only to find it out by seeing the movie. Also might be interesting for those that had read the script up to that point to see how we laid it out on the screen for them compared to how they imagined it?

Hmmmm. :huh:

[Brandon Rice]

Good idea Norm... and it's totally within' the rules.

[Norm Sanders]

K, Brandon, you've inspired me with your announcement timelines/dates. :)

So everone please be ready for the first page of the script before the end of the night tonight! Final time to be determined. :)

[Brandon Rice]

Nice!

[Jason Ramsey]

Cool, man. I don't know if I want to read it or not, though. It will be tempting :) LOoking forward to it.

Jason

[Norm Sanders]

Great, look for it by 9pm tonight ... I'll revamp one of the opening posts to be the updated 'peek at script' section. :thumbsup:

[Norm Sanders]

K, I've upated the 2nd post in this thread (BTS) with the link (http://www.eefilm.com/dvxuser/silence.pdf)!

[Jason Ramsey]

Man. I am so tempted to read, but I don't know if I want to. I could sure use the benefit of looking at some folks script, but I kinda wanna not know too much about the films going in, so I can try to be as much an audience member for them as possible.

I feel like I'm being asked to eat the apple

Jason

[Ted Arabian]

Norm, great idea on the script "leak." Clever. Funny how you have a character named Eric. We have an Eric in our script as well. He is the lead guy. Is yours? :)

Keep it rolling!

Ted

[Mark Johnson]

We also have an effects artist named Eric too. Small world.

[Norm Sanders]

I wonder how many people will have fun with their credits?

I.E.
Norm "Eric" Sanders - Director
Dan "Eric" Ayers - DP
Justin "Eric" Durban - Composer
etc.

Kind of like the fun credit you see for Halloween episodes of THE SIMPSONS, etc. :grin:

Actually Ted, I was somewhat forced to have the guy be Eric vs. the girl being Erica, because I didn't want Rebecca's resume to have the same character name twice in a row! Yeah, I know, always thinking of others. I'm a giver. It's what I do. LOL.

Mark, I'm very interested to read your guys' script when it's ready (that trade), as I'm curious to see where you'll be utilizing effects.

[Ted Arabian]

Norm, that is very kind of you to consider Rebecca's career. I hope that you story benefits from the change. Nothing like an accidental fortune!

And I love the idea about the credits though I don't think we'll even have time to do them for the festival piece. That 6 minute line is tough!

Ted

PS - I love the location on your avatar! That's great. I lived in Portland, OR for 4 years. Jantzan Beach still around? Last time I was there (1984) there were a lot of changes going on.

Damn.... 1984! Wow! How old am I????

[VersuS]

PS - I love the location on your avatar! That's great. I lived in Portland, OR for 4 years. Jantzan Beach still around? Last time I was there (1984) there were a lot of changes going on.

Damn.... 1984! Wow! How old am I????

26 like me. You just have great memories from your childhood!

[Norm Sanders]

Hey Ted, I didn't move out here until 1990 (still in HS in 1984 in Hermiston, OR), but there has been a TON of changes to the whole area. Coincidentally, I was just at Jantzen Beach yesterday with Rebecca's husband helping pick out a home theater system for them. Always fun when it's not your own money you're spending!

[Norm Sanders]

Exciting new for TRINITY RIVER, which should also be impacting this short. I just got off the phone with Michael Jones (IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1378875/)), who's highly respected in the area as an indie Producer/Line Producer. He's set his bar at only working with films that are budgeted at $500K+, but after reading the script for TR and an initial meeting that went well between us, he's decided he'd like to be involved. We meet again this Friday morning to finalize details, set/clarify mutual expectations, etc.

Needless to say, I'm stoked.

How this ties into "Where Silence Falls", is that I'm asking all key crew of TR to come & do this short as well, as an opportunity to work together in advance, etc. He's aware I'd like him to be 1st AD, and said he'll 'think about it'. Since that's what he said about TR as well until today, I've just gone ahead and updated the first post with him as 1st AD now, lol. :evil:

[Brandon Rice]

WHOA! Nice Norm... I am crossin' my fingers that TR gets really going... things sound promising!

[Norm Sanders]

Yeah, I was shooting for an April production schedule, but will likely have to crank it up to first of March now to accomodate for Michael's schedule ... which will add a fair amount of pressure to me on the fund raising end of it! I don't know why, but I've got a peace about raising six figures for this ... part of me thinks I'm insane & delusional for thinking it, the other is just confident it'll come together. :)

[Brandon Rice]

Go get em' Norm! And let me know if there's somewhere I can be helpful on your crew as well :)

[Larry Rutledge]

Sweet news!! :thumbsup:

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks, that'll be fun to see once I get the official thread for it opened in the USER FILMS section how many DVXuser members come out of the woodwork interested in helping out. I'll keep you posted, Brandon! :thumbsup:

[Brandon Rice]

Sounds good Norm! Can't wait.

[Ted Arabian]

Norm, that's fantastic news!!! Woo-Hoo!

Good for you!

[Norm Sanders]

Larry, missed you at the end of the previous page. Yep, it is, thanks! :beer: Sent you a PM back regarding the e-mail you sent me. Good stuff!

Thanks Ted, but it's no where NEAR as entertaining as the 'news' you guys keep updating your thread with. Love those articles!

[RebeccaD]

It is great news! We are all very excited about this new development. I haven't been on in awhile because we've been in the process of moving, but I appreciate all the feedback from everyone! :)

[Norm Sanders]

Yep, you've been a BUSY girl lately, Rebecca! :)

NEWS UPDATE: Ryan Walters (235 Studios) will be B Cam, working with Dan Ayers (the DP) for TRINITY RIVER. As such, since I'm using this short as a warm up opportunity for folks to work together in advance, Ryan will now be serving as 1st AC on WHERE SILENCE FALLS.

It'll be exciting to have him on the film, and it also only feels natural since we've worked the last three films together. :)

I'm moving Stefan to 1st AD, and will be talking further with him about that (PM you soon Stefan). Thankfully Stefan has been kind enough to be flexible where ever he can best be used, and he's got experience across the board as well!

Possible HUGE news release next week. Stay tuned.

[RebeccaD]

It'll be exciting to have him on the film, and it also only feels natural since we've worked the last three films together. :)


I agree! Like and respect Ryan's work and look forward to working with him on both ventures. :)

[Larry Rutledge]

Well that's no good Norm, how can we perpetuate the rumors that you and Ryan had a nasty falling out and have threatened to kill whoever steps into the other's territory again? :evil: :grin:


Great news guys...looking forward to the continued growth of this collaboration. And the addition of the new crew just makes this a stronger force up there in the Great Northwest :)

[235 Studios]

LOL! Funny Larry!

Looking forward to both this project and TR. :)

[Mark Johnson]

Rebecca,

Everybody on our thread is a big fan of yours. Please come visit us again and bring some BTS pics with you. You can pimp your thread on ours anytime! Seriously, you and your cohorts bring a lot of talent to this little Indie backwater in cyberspace and I know everybody on TTN has shared plaudits for your work.

[RebeccaD]

Rebecca,

Everybody on our thread is a big fan of yours. Please come visit us again and bring some BTS pics with you. You can pimp your thread on ours anytime! Seriously, you and your cohorts bring a lot of talent to this little Indie backwater in cyberspace and I know everybody on TTN has shared plaudits for your work.

Thank you, Mark. I appreciate that. I will definitely be back over there to visit in the near future! It's been a bit since I've been on and its great to get back here and check out some of the threads. :)

[Mark Johnson]

Rebecca,

Let me apologize ahead of time, though, because TommyInLA and Kyle Stebbins tend to overshadow the subtle and layered film making discussions that we mature members of the team attempt to bring to the table. If you happen to come by and see crude scatological humor, that's Kyle's doing. If you see outrageous and offensive photoshopped graphics, that is Tom's fault.

[RebeccaD]

LOL. Okay. I think I can handle it. Looking forward to my investigation now. :beer:

[Norm Sanders]

Well, it is with a sad, sad heart that I must announce the following withdrawal ...

The script from public view.

What, did you think we'd actually pull out of the fest!?! :evil: RebeccaD and I worked on a final polish of the script (very minor stuff, not even enough to call a new draft - dialogue tweaks, mostly), and she'd been off the boards for quite a while as she's busy moving. I had made the decision to show the script page at a time in advance as a teaser, but she feels it would be best for a few reasons not to.

So, since all of you guys out there think that she can do no wrong, and love her so much, I'll just place the blame on her. :grin: She's making me pull the script from public viewing.

[Larry Rutledge]

What a weak man, blaming it on Rebecca. :grin: Hey, I thought it was a gutsy move to post it anyway, I'm with Rebecca on this one, keep it under wraps. Let it be revealed in visual form only.

So, when does production begin?

[Norm Sanders]

We'll shoot January 13/14, giving us approx 2 weeks of post. PLENTY of time to plan, rehearse, get through the holidays, etc. :)

Sure, I'll take the weak man title, why not. Basically, she's untouchable on these boards, so who better to pawn it off on? :beer:

[Larry Rutledge]

Sure, I'll take the weak man title, why not. Basically, she's untouchable on these boards, so who better to pawn it off on? :beer:

Hey, I'm just messin' with ya man.


We'll shoot January 13/14, giving us approx 2 weeks of post. PLENTY of time to plan, rehearse, get through the holidays, etc. :) Wow, 2 weeks for post...I guess it's a shorter post cycle when you don't have crazy CG effects, huh? :)

Looking forward to it!!

[Norm Sanders]

I know you were kidding, Larry!

Post should be SUPER simple for this, as there's zero FX other than production (makeup), so it'll just be mostly about score & titles for any real post work beyond the simple edits, etc.

[Tom Marshall]

Rebecca,

Let me apologize ahead of time, though, because TommyInLA and Kyle Stebbins tend to overshadow the subtle and layered film making discussions that we mature members of the team attempt to bring to the table. If you happen to come by and see crude scatological humor, that's Kyle's doing. If you see outrageous and offensive photoshopped graphics, that is Tom's fault.

Hey!! Wait a minute... actually, if I wasn't at work right now, I'd find something to photoshop... :evil:

[Tom Marshall]

I know you were kidding, Larry!

Post should be SUPER simple for this, as there's zero FX other than production (makeup), so it'll just be mostly about score & titles for any real post work beyond the simple edits, etc.

I really can't wait to see what you come up with... I really enjoyed R.E.M.!!

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks Tommy, I'm really looking forward to DramaFest, perhaps more than any of the others, because it strips away a lot of what many of us have relied on with the past with cool FX, sound FX, etc.

To me, DramaFest will kind of take everything back to the basics to really focus more on story, character, etc. .... which if you look back at the films that have won the past fests, they had those down quite well, but I think more films as a whole will be focusing on that, which should hopefully make this an excellent fest.

Interestingly enough, R.E.M. had little to no focus on any of that stuff that really matters, and still did well enough with a good performance by Rebecca, sound design that was rec'd favorably along with score, and camera work.

[Tom Marshall]

Hey Norm, I agree. I thing that filmmaking has to have drama to it. But those are the types of films I want to do, so I'm biased!

I think R.E.M. actually had a cool story line to it. It was very clever... :beer:

[Norm Sanders]

I think R.E.M. actually had a cool story line to it. It was very clever... :beer:

Thanks, Tommy! That just moved you right up to one of my favorite folks on the board! :thumbsup: :grin: :beer:

[Ted Arabian]

Well, it is with a sad, sad heart that I must announce the following withdrawal ...

The script from public view.

What, did you think we'd actually pull out of the fest!?! :evil:
That was a good one, Norm... you actually had my head spinning there for a moment.

I must say that I was surprised to begin with that we were going to get to have a look at your scripts. Oh, well.

As for your shooting schedule... sounds like you've allotted more time for this one than you did on R.E.M.!!! :grin:

And Rebecca.... watch out for Mark... :evil: !!!

(sorry Mark! :grin: )

Ted

[Tom Marshall]

I'm going to start off all my posts to you by saying "Norm!" It reminds me of Cheers... :cheesy:

So... Norm! How's your short coming along? Any updates? :)

[Norm Sanders]

Hey thanks, Tommy! Never heard that one before ('Norm!"). :grin: Actually, not a bad show to be related to by that name fashion, as it was a great show.

No real updates yet. Rebecca's been slammed with her move, and with the holidays & such, it's been a little slow. The script, we believe, is absolutely solid, so there shouldn't be any changes there.

We will have a casting update soon, so I'll update that, hopefully in the next few days. We'll also have a pre-production meeting with the 1st AD, DP, etc. probably in the second or third week of December, as we're not shooting until the second weekend of January.

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah, kind of a tricky time of the year to be making a movie, but what the hey... Where's Rebecca moving to?

[Norm Sanders]

They're not moving too far from their existing house, just closer into 'civilization'. :grin: Actually, they'll only be about five minutes from our family now, further up the hill with a pretty phenomenal view of the city, river, mountains. *In Napolean Dynamite voice* LUCKY!

[Ted Arabian]

Oh! Are we talking about the views of the Northwest? Wow! I love it up there!

My favorite view is from Washington Park in Portland looking towards Mt. Hood.

God, I love that view.

Sorry.... just dropping in and being nosey!

Happy Thanksgiving , Norm... Rebecca....

-Ted

[Blaine]

"Hey, Norm, how's it goin'?" Okay, enough Cheers. I haven't looked in for awhile so I had plenty to read. I really llke your poster. It's going to be interesting to see what you come up with this time around.

[Norm Sanders]

Yeah, Mt. Hood is a REAL pretty view to behold, for sure. If I'm not mistaken, they don't have a view of Hood, as it's on the other side of the hill from them, but they do have a view of the Portland City lights, Columbia River, Portland International Airport, and Mount St. Helens ... the volcano that blew its top 25+ years ago, and is now completely covered in snow.

Their house, however, looks like crap inside, lol (sorry, Rebecca). They've been having it remodeled before moving in, which I helped some over the weekend ... but I'm sure by this weekend it'll be looking awesome. Seriously a very nice place. Heading over tonight to help hook up the theater system I pressured her husband into buying. :thumbsup:

[Norm Sanders]

They thanks, Blaine! I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing what you think of this story, as I know you're big on that ... and we feel pretty strongly about this one. Oh, and there will be no butchering of it to fit it into the timeline like we did with SPARROW, lol. Start to finish, I'm hoping we can keep it at five minutes or less, but knowing we have a minute buffer is nice as well.

[Tom Marshall]

I actually need to watch your other festival entries... I joined right before HorrorFest came together, so I've got some catching up to do... :)

Yeah, Blaine's got a great talent for storytelling. :)

[Norm Sanders]

We've cast our third & final character for the film with Reid Phillips, which those of you who have seen the full cut of SPARROW will remember him as the THUG in the opening Alley scene/fight sequence.

I hadn't wanted to mention this in advance, specifically if I didn't get the role as it'd be quite embarrassing, but I was planning to audition for Ryan Walters' film (SEMELE), and had already decided if I landed the role that I would automatically cast the other male that was in his film in mine also. I thought it would be interesting to have two films, made by two different filmmakers, feature the same exact cast in completely different roles/characters.

SHOULD BE FUN!!

[Norm Sanders]

Oh, and for SPARROW, Tommy, I'd suggest just borrowing Blaine's copy so you can see the full cut vs. any short version we may have had for the fest ... short version just doesn't do it justice. Anyway, borrowing Blaine's assuming you guys see each other. I mean, LA's not really that big, right? :)

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah, I see Blaine every now and then. I'm going to help crew on a project that him and Kevin are working on, so I'll be sure to mention it to him... and he doesn't exactly live in LA... lol... more like an hour and a half drive!

And having the exact same cast is very interesting... can't wait to see them both now! :)

[235 Studios]

We've cast our third & final character for the film with Reid Phillips, which those of you who have seen the full cut of SPARROW will remember him as the THUG in the opening Alley scene/fight sequence.

I hadn't wanted to mention this in advance, specifically if I didn't get the role as it'd be quite embarrassing, but I was planning to audition for Ryan Walters' film (SEMELE), and had already decided if I landed the role that I would automatically cast the other male that was in his film in mine also. I thought it would be interesting to have two films, made by two different filmmakers, feature the same exact cast in completely different roles/characters.

SHOULD BE FUN!!


I'm looking forward to it Norm! This should be an interesting experiement - as well as fun projects to work on :beer: !

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

S E M E L E

is that a sequal to something :)

[Norm Sanders]

No bots or white-walled love scenes in Ryan's, Jack, sorry. :)

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

S E M E L O? :laugh:

[235 Studios]

S E M E L O? :laugh:

Yeah, this is not related to SEMELO in any way- just a coincidence. :)

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

I know, and I'm looking forwared to it, just joshin' ya.

Happy turduckin day

[235 Studios]

Thanks- Hapy T-day to you as well. and good luck with the Sci Fi Channel!

[Norm Sanders]

Besides, wasn't it S I M I L O?

[Tom Marshall]

All I have to say is... :huh:

[235 Studios]

SIMILO: A short film that was entered for the DVXuser sifi fest- it was well done, but disqualified do to outside marketing / promotion. I don't see the video there any more, but it used to be at: http://www.mysimilo.com/

[Tom Marshall]

Ahh, ok... thanks for clearing that up for me. There's an index page with a link when I went to view source of the page, but the website that hosted the movied file doesn't exist. Was SIMIO any good?

[Norm Sanders]

It was beautifully shot, and had a lot of controversy around it as to whether the story was as good, etc. I'm sending you a PM, Tommy, giving you the address to where I'll park both a .wmv and .mov version on my server for you to watch.

I'd post the link here, but not sure if that'd cause them problems, as I heard there's some potential deal in the works, etc. But since I've saved all the downloads from the previous fests, I should be fine to post it privately, I'd imagine.

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks Norm. Can't wait to see what it looks like... and as soon as I get some footage from Maliboo, I'll let ya see that... :beer:

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

It's on youtube I hear as well.

[Brandon Rice]

as soon as I get some footage from Maliboo, I'll let ya see that... :beer:

Better hit me up with some of that too!

[Tom Marshall]

You're already on the list Bman... :)

[Brandon Rice]

awesome!

[Tom Marshall]

Wow, just watched it. What was that shot on? I was very impressed...

Not to threadjack or anything... :grin:

[Ted Arabian]

Okay, okay..... I am intrigued. I am going to search YouTube, but can you send me a link to that, Norm? I would appreciate it (and it has to be better quality than YouTube!)

Hope that you and yours had a great Thanksgiving!

-Ted

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks, Ted, you too! Just stepped on the scale this AM, and about 4-5lbs heavier than yesterday, no kidding. :thumbsup: Good eatin'!

Sending you the PM link now. Yeah, I can't stand YouTube quality either, so I rarely watch that stuff.

Tommy, I THINK it was shot with the andromeda system ... which is a modfication of the DVX, where these guys (for about $2,500+) will rework your DVX, adding some hardware to it, that will allow it to shoot FULLY uncompressed (4:4:4) raw footage ... you then must color correct, etc. in post ... I think the frame size is larger than 720, but smaller than 1080.

[Tom Marshall]

Oh yeah, I've done some research on the Andromeda... I'd rather rent something that had a bigger CCD though... like the SVX900 (which is a GREAT camera btw). It's got a 2/3" CCD on it rather than the 1/3" on the DVX and HVX. Actually, I don't even own a camera. I'm a director/writer. I can't bring myself to think of technical issues in films. I only pay attention to the story when I watch a movie... is that a good thing or bad thing? I don't know. When you have a great DP, then you really don't have to worry about it, I suppose. Just do some very good story boards and be able to communicate what you're going for and you should be there. I think I'm rambling... :grin:

[Norm Sanders]

No, you're not rambling ... I think you've got a GREAT point. Why get bogged down with tech stuff when your job is to ensure the STORY comes through? Keep that thinking!

As a side note, just want to draw attention to this thread, if anyone is interested in giving feedback: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=778602#post778602

Any comments, please post it there. Thanks in advance!

[Tom Marshall]

I commented there but I'll comment here too... nice video, Norm! :beer:

[Ted Arabian]

Norm, that was amazing work that you did with that memorial video. I was speechless. I was so moved.

The time that you spent was worth it.

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks guys, you have no idea how much I appreciate you taking the time to watch it, as well as the valued input to help make it that much more for them.

As far as WHERE SILENCE FALLS & RebeccaD's progress ... just helped her husband today get a little further with their setup, and their pretty much moved in, from the best I can tell.

Hopefully she'll be able to jump in here a little more often, and I looking forward to getting more updates, pics, etc on his thread soon. :thumbsup:

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah man... get to the movie making!!! :D

[Ted Arabian]

Hey Norm, Good luck at the service today. I imagine that you'll be there.

Again, good work on honoring that young man's life. You did well!

-Ted

[Norm Sanders]

Yeah man... get to the movie making!!! :D

Soon, very soon. Ryan's got a table reading scheduled for the week of the 13th (December), so I'll probably try to squeeze something in for WHERE SILENCE FALLS as well.

Then after that we'll certainly try to plan more time for both films to be rehearsed, etc. especially for Reid Phillips, as he's traveling about 90+ minutes one way just to make it up here, so the less we can both make him travel the better.

Thanks Ted. Yes, I'll be in attendence ... getting everything together for it now.

[Ted Arabian]

Hey Norm, back to filmmaking yet?

[Norm Sanders]

Sorry for the delayed response, Ted. I got PM's from more than one person asking if I was still in the fest or not, because I'd not been posting in the thread much, lol.

Still in it, absolutely .... just trying not to post unless there's some actual update, and well ... there's really none. Should have something in a couple of days though, as we need to start making forward momentum with planning, meetings, etc.

[Ted Arabian]

HAHA! I wasn't worried about you dropping out.... I know that it is a busy time with the holidays and all. And that work you did on the memorial video must have kicked your butt a bit.

I was just checking in!

-Ted

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks. Yep, that video actually did take a lot ... I've JUST finally finished the entire DVD menu, content, etc. last night ... didn't want to let it drag out a week, but somehow did.

[Norm Sanders]

Okay, a WEE bit of forward movement with the film. :)

Rebecca & I will be getting together tomorrow for some read throughs, as well as for Ryan's film (SEMELE), which we're also both in. We have a table reading for his next Wednesday (as well as ours directly after), but want to be as ahead of the game as possible by that time. Should be interesting to start putting inflection/emotion into the words we wrote!

On another note, Stefan (scharky) will be coming down from Seattle this Saturday to meet & discuss the film indepth from vision, to rough ideas for scheduling, etc. As 1st AD, he'll be in charge of setting the schedule, and I'm also putting him in touch with Dan Ayers, the DP.

REALLY looking forward to being able to meet Stefan & his wife!

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

I'm really looking forward to seeing this one

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Okay, a WEE bit of forward movement with the film. :)
.... When you write "WEE" in all caps like that you make me hear your post in a bad
"Lucky Charms" / leprechaun accent, don't ya know.

[Beat Takeshi]

Hey norm, that memorial video was really touching. Felt like I knew him after watching it. The one thing that seemed out of place was the fast fowarding of the images. It took me out of the moment because it seemed so abrupt compared to the mood you set. I just watched Bagdad ER the other day and freaking war sucks ass. You don't hear about all the guys getting their asses blown off every damn day. :(

[Norm Sanders]

LOL, Jack, that wasn't the intent, but funnier now that I go back & read it with that accent ... thanks for sticking that in my head. :)

Aram, you resounded what a couple others on the board said too about the fast movement, but the majority kind of dug it, so I stuck with it ... it wasn't so much about mood at that point, as to kind of symbolize a build up as life flew by ... then slammed to a halt on his daughter's picture & the title "Father" ... it had the desired effect on the service too. Thanks for the kudos though, much appreciated ... and yeah, war does suck. Sometimes it's necessary, sometimes not, all the time tragic.

[RebeccaD]

I was also deeply moved by that memorial video. I didn't even know the guy and I was crying like a baby.

[Ted Arabian]

I cried BOTH times I watched it. Just amazing.

How goes the progess? I hear that there is a steak dinner on the horizon!!!

-Ted

[RebeccaD]

So excited for the steak! Going to have a read through and go over wardrobe for Semele and then do a read through for Where Silence Falls. Should be a fun night. Come eat steak with us Ted!

[Tom Marshall]

Steak dinner?? I want a steak dinner! :)

[Norm Sanders]

Rebecca, have you contacted that lady I gave you the phone number for? Rebecca needs to learn a new language & dialect, fast! :)

[RebeccaD]

Rebecca, have you contacted that lady I gave you the phone number for? Rebecca needs to learn a new language & dialect, fast! :)

Reid has someone (female) that has recorded all the lines for both of us and is bringing the tape tomorrow. For ease of schedules, etc. we are checking out her input and going from there after tomorrow night.

[Ted Arabian]

Hey all! I just posted a similar post on Ryan's thread but I think that you had a read-though here as well. Right?

I hope that you had a good time! As I stated on Ryan's thread, it was a wonderful experience for me at our first read-through.

I hope that yours was as well. And I hope that the steaks were medium rare! :)

-Ted

[Norm Sanders]

Got it. Just need to know if we're not going to be contacting her, so I can give her the heads up/explaination.

Mmmm, medium rare is just a touch too much blood on the plate for me, lol. Medium rocks, however. Tonight is steak night ... I'm not going to eat all day, just so I can look like that dog in the Alpo commercial that comes busting through the door for the food. :grin:

[Brandon Rice]

I'm a rare guy myself.... GIVE ME THE BLOOD!!! LOL! J/K... I just think the meat tastes better rare.

[Norm Sanders]

Shoot, why bother cooking it at all then? Just rub some anit-bacterial stuff on the outside to kill the germs & you're good to go! Actually, there's a restaurant out here that serves it 'cool blue', which is just a touch above raw.

[Inexistence]

Actually you can eat the meat extremely rare just as long as you don't introduce
any kind of bacteria to the meat with unsterilized utensils/cookware.

Rare is the tits.

[Tom Marshall]

I usually try and eat the cow... while he's grazing in a field. Now that's the best way to eat a steak! :cheesy:

[RebeccaD]

I usually try and eat the cow... while he's grazing in a field. Now that's the best way to eat a steak! :cheesy:

Ewww... I like my steak medium, but sometimes I'll go for the medium-rare. Depends on my mood. :happy:

[Norm Sanders]

I think Rebecca's easily in a medium rare mood today ... she's been pretty punchy, lol. :grin:

Tommy, you had me rolling out of my chair. Not sure why, but that just hit me as hilarious! :thumbsup:

[Ted Arabian]

Hey Guys! Wow. I am so confused as to what day it is! What a week.

I hope that TONIGHT goes well!!!

Have fun!

-Ted

[235 Studios]

I'm looking forward to seeing this film, as well as seeing both sets of actors in two completely different films / roles. The read throughs went well, and I enjoyed the food. (But then I was the cook, so that may not be saying much.) Anyway, back to cleaning up ....

[Ted Arabian]

I, too, am looking forward to two films with the same cast in each. That should fun to watch!

Glad it went well!

-Ted

[RebeccaD]

Thanks Ted! Appreciate the feedback. That In N' Out Burger is makin me soo hungry.

[Ted Arabian]

Hi Rebecca. I am sure that this burger doesn't compare to RYAN'S FAMOUS GRILLED STEAK but yes... it is tasty!

Looking forward to seeing you in TWO films this fest!

-Ted

[Norm Sanders]

ANY time I go to California, it's a MUST to hit In N' Out ... just classic. For those who know the Pacific NW, they may have eaten at a Burgerville, which has kind of the same thing for folks that visit here ... they want to eat at one. :)

[Brandon Rice]

There's a place called EZ-Takeout Burger... I only know of one... and it's almost exactly like In-N-Out.

[Ted Arabian]

ANY time I go to California, it's a MUST to hit In N' Out ... just classic. For those who know the Pacific NW, they may have eaten at a Burgerville, which has kind of the same thing for folks that visit here ... they want to eat at one. :)
OMG!!! Burgerville USA!

I love that place!!!!

Colossal burger, baby!

(I used to work at Burgerville USA... oh, man. That was a long time ago!)

[RebeccaD]

Back after a break... Had a big xmas party at our house this past weekend. I think I'm still recovering. Anyway, hope all is well with everyone and Happy Holidays!

[J.R. Hudson]

There's a place called EZ-Takeout Burger... I only know of one... and it's almost exactly like In-N-Out.

For SOCAL

When you have ROBERTOS / ALBERTOS / et al ; In N Out is merely another burger joint.

[RebeccaD]

Happy Holidays! Hope all is well with everyone and I'm looking forward to thing settling down so we can start focusing more on these films! :beer:

[Norm Sanders]

Secured today (thanks to referrals from Michael Jones, Co-Producer on our upcoming feature TRINITY RIVER) the following:

Creed Spencer - Boom/Sound Mixer
Jim Dunn - Grip

Welcome aboard guys, VERY glad to have you a part of the project, as well as onboard for the feature!

Now I need to secure our hair/makeup, and we'll be set on crew.

[Tom Marshall]

Norm! :beer:

Sounds like things are going well... glad to hear it. As for the makeup person, find a local beauty school and over one of the students 20 bucks or something... :)

[Norm Sanders]

LOL, thanks Tommy. Although something tells me I'd have a harder time getting that to fly past Rebecca ... she is PICKY PICKY PICKY when it comes to who's going to be working on her makeup & hair. :grin:

Oh, and just to cross reference because a lot of the same crew, etc. that are in WHERE SILENCE FALLS will be working on the feature TRINITY RIVER, I thought I'd post the link to that thread here:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=82068

[Tom Marshall]

Who did you get to do makeup for R.E.M.?

[Norm Sanders]

No one ... she went to a Mac counter at Nordstrom & had her makeup done there ... then she continued to do her own touch ups throughout the night as needed. Can't recall where she had her hair done, but it was again all done off-set.

Since it was such a last minute entry for us, it wasn't much of a care/focus. WHERE SILENCE FALLS is a different matter altogether, and we'll need a good one for sure.

[Tom Marshall]

Oh man, yeah... you don't want to have her do her own makeup. I'm sure you won't have a problem finding someone. Try posting an ad on craigslist.

[Beat Takeshi]

Back to the steak subject...I like it so rare that if it sat on the plate long enough the cow would recover.

[Norm Sanders]

That'd be a pretty dang big plate to hold it all! May as well throw on the bib & walk out to the field, knife & fork in hand, lol.

[Ben Sliker]

I was always preferential to the phrase: "If it moos when i stick it with my fork, then it's good."

[Norm Sanders]

Just finished another rehearsal with RebeccaD, and I've got to tell you folks you're going to be in for a treat ... she is absolutely going to ROCK THE HOUSE! We rehearsed for a couple + hours with WHERE SILENCE FALLS, as well as worked on a couple of sections for SEMELE.

Our next rehearsal will hopefully be the week between shooting SEMELE and WHERE SILENCE FALLS, as they fall on one weekend after the other. We'll get Reid in on that one as well ... really looking forward to it.

[RebeccaD]

Just finished another rehearsal with RebeccaD, and I've got to tell you folks you're going to be in for a treat ... she is absolutely going to ROCK THE HOUSE! We rehearsed for a couple + hours with WHERE SILENCE FALLS, as well as worked on a couple of sections for SEMELE.


Thanks, Norm. :smile: I think everyone will be equally if not even more impressed by your acting chops in these two films. It'll be nice to see you in front of the camera! Oh, and as for the makeup, you are right, I am a wee bit picky. :evil:

[235 Studios]

I'm getting together with Dan Ayers this afternoon for a preproduction meeting for both WHERE SILENCE FALLS and for TRINITY RIVER. I'm excited to be able to work with him, as well as see both of these films come together! Norm and Rebecca have a good script for the DramaFest. :beer:

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks Ryan. :) The preproduction meeting has been moved to my place now, as I'd like to get more of the skinny on the camera/gear as well ... I think it'll help in my vision of the project(s), as I'll know what can/can't be done, look/feel, etc. Then we have the Gaffer (Steve Waters) joining us at 3pm for a tech scout for the short.

Rebecca, PLEASE, you're making me blush (*keep it coming*)! :grin:

[Ted Arabian]

Hey all! I hope that you all had a great holiday season!

Looking forward to getting caught up on your project!!!

-Ted

[RebeccaD]

Thanks Ted. I am having a blast with both of these films! I feel like I am in capable hands as far as the crew is concerned too. As long as Mark doesn't tweek some BTS footage, that is! :smile:

[Norm Sanders]

WHERE SILENCE FALLS has been in a bit of hiatus while we've been focused on SEMELE. Looking forward to that shoot, though I'm NOT looking forward to getting up that early, lol.

Last Friday I had the DP, Gaffer, and Ryan over at my house for location/tech scout to see what lights to use, ideas of camera angles, etc. Ryan also had a session with Dan, the DP, going over the HVX, which is Ryan's. To hear how much money Dan had into his Steadicam gear, follow focus with microwave transmitter, etc. was just staggering. To have him bring all of that gear & his expertise to this short is humbling to say the least.

After this weekend's shoot with SEMELE, we'll be (Rebecca & I) totally focused on preparing for the following weekend's shoot for this film. We'll have a final rehearsal/blocking LATE Thursday night, which I'm looking forward to being able to work with Reid on.

Was on the phone with Stefan (scharky) tonight, who'll be putting together the schedule over the next few days ... also figured out some nice work-arounds, should our rain towers not come through as we're planning.

Working on menus for the meals and craft services with the caterer, Robin, which I think everyone will enjoy (they loved what she did for SPARROW).

[Norm Sanders]

Had a LONG and fun shoot with Ryan's SEMELE, and looking forward to seeing the film progress through post production now. Other than an ADR session on the 15th, we (Rebecca & I) can now soley focus on WHERE SILECE FALLS, which I'll begin today by going over to one of the neighbor's houses & scouting out some opening shots from their roof line.

[Norm Sanders]

AWESOME!! Just after posting the above, I got a call from our sound guy, Creed Spencer ... he has to bail because he rec'd confirmation of a paying gig that he had been waiting to hear from when accepting this short ... can't blaim him & hold no hard feelings ... just in a scramble for an experienced boom/sound operator now.

I mean, what fun is filmmaking if you can't roll with the stress that comes along with all these last minute things, right?! :) Also still trying to secure a MUA/Hair stylist. Got an e-mail in to Keelie Duncan, whom I met on Ryan's SEMELE yesterday ... she did a FABULOUS job & was really easy to work with.

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

Hey Norm,
I'm a writer/director/dp so I'm not an "experienced boom/sound op" but I've watched other people boom for me for years now. Plus, I've spent the last several months and $3000 on putting together a nice audio kit for my movies. So, feel free to keep searching for that experienced guy but failing at that I could help you better than some random PA.

EDIT: I didn't just throw $3k at a package, I spent months on the audio board reading and posting, reading audio books, etc. So I know the concepts and how to use the gear.

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

oh, and unlike for Ryan's movie, I won't have to spontaneously cancel due to my baby being born :-). Your movie is this Saturday right?

[Norm Sanders]

Hey Shawn, thanks for the offer! Michael Jones has a call out to a pro guy, but whether or not he's available has yet to be determined ... on an intersting note, my Craiglist Ad was flagged & removed for some unknown reason. I went ahead & reposted it, but should Michael's guy not be able to come through, I'll definitely want to take you up on it. Should know by Tuesday night (tomorrow) at the latest.

Regardless, please just double check with your wife & newest addition that it's cool for you to be gone all day Sat/Sun. :)

Just heard back from my umpteenth MUA contact that is NOT available this weekend. I LIVE for this kind of pressure! Whoo-Hoo!

[limeyx]

It was beautifully shot, and had a lot of controversy around it as to whether the story was as good, etc. I'm sending you a PM, Tommy, giving you the address to where I'll park both a .wmv and .mov version on my server for you to watch.

I'd post the link here, but not sure if that'd cause them problems, as I heard there's some potential deal in the works, etc. But since I've saved all the downloads from the previous fests, I should be fine to post it privately, I'd imagine.

Wow, couldn't resist going to the youtube link. Even with the youtube compression it looks amazing (although I could only get 1/2 way through due to being at work :)

I'd love a link to a higher res version also if possible ...

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

Hey Norm,
If Michael can't get his guy then I'm good to go for ya. I talked to my wife and she could spend those days at my parents and her parents. Just get someone else to hold the boom so I could just mix and I think it'd sound pretty dang good.

OR...the experience will underscore why I'm a director and not below the line, :-). I just figure if I can help ya out then I'll do my best.

[Norm Sanders]

I'd love a link to a higher res version also if possible ...

Just PM'd the link to you.

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks Shawn, let you know ASAP. Just so I have a heads up, can you list the specific equipment, so if I need to I'll know what I still need to procure on this end?

[limeyx]

Just PM'd the link to you.

thanks a lot! Awesome.

[Norm Sanders]

No problem ... I'm in a giving mood right now as I just got a glimpse of hope with a great MUA who's interested in the short. Just holding my breath now as she'll let me know tomorrow if she can do it or not. :)

[Tom Marshall]

Hey there Norm. Things are looking good for you... I'm glad! Did you get my PM about Trinity River a while back?

[Norm Sanders]

Hey Tommy, yep, I got your PM. Did you get a chance to read the script, thoughts?

[Tom Marshall]

I've gotten about half way through it so far. I like it. It's a cool family-oriented story... I can see myself as the older brother, but I might be just a little too old for the part... lol

[RebeccaD]

I like the older brother's character as well. Stand up kinda guy.

[Brandon Rice]

I like the character arcs in the script a lot.

[Brandon Rice]

I like peanut butter & jelly sandwiches with the crust cut off. :beer:

ew..... :zombie_smiley:

[RebeccaD]

K..... :huh:

[Tom Marshall]

K..... :huh:

I second that...

[RebeccaD]

Update:

We are looking forward to this weekend, even though there have been a few glitches. We are still trying to nail down a make-up artist, but still have some options in the fire. I'm looking forward to working with a lot of the same crew and the identical cast. The scripts are very diverse, so it should be a blast.

[Ted Arabian]

Hey Norm and crew, just catching up on your thread. Sounds like you've had some excitement with the pressure of last minute hurdles. I hope that you've got them all covered now.

So, you shoot this weekend and Ryan shot last weekend, is that correct?

Sounds like fun! I love this stuff!!!

BTW, I didn't quite catch what the "you-tube" video comments were about. Can you direct me to the post?

Thanks and best to you all!!!

-Ted

[Shawn Philip Nelson]

This will be fun, I'm looking forward to being a part of it!

[RebeccaD]

This will be fun, I'm looking forward to being a part of it!

Shawn, thanks for joining our team! Looking forward to working with you this weekend! :)

[Norm Sanders]

Hey Ted, no worries on not staying on top of threads ... it's tough for everyone right now, as we're in development or production of our films. Not to mention your thread is tough to keep up with anyway, it's so dang popular! :)

Shawn, REALLY glad to have you on board ... thanks for being our sound guy on this, mixing for the best levels, etc. :thumbsup:

We also secured, thanks to a referral from my producing partner on TRINITY RIVER, Michael Jones, Alison Binford as our MUA/Hairstylist. Alison is VERY respected in the area for her makeup expertise, and comes with over 25 years experience with makeup, FX, and hair!

We've got all our key crew in place, and have our first cast/crew call tomorrow at 8am on Saturday, scheduled to wrap by 6:30pm.

Rebecca's going to be DEAD tired (hopefully not too much so), as she then has to scoot out to meet up with her band, and she'll be performing at a gig from 9pm to Midnight tomorrow night ... then get to bed so she can be back on set for a 7:30am crew call / 8:00am cast call ... with Sunday finally wrapping at 5:30pm.

I'm putting Stefan up for the night on Saturday, since he's traveling down from Seattle for this (3+ hour drive, one way), so I'll be taking him to Happy Hour that night to Cactus Ya-Ya ... killer food & good drinks.

I'll also try to get some BTS shots, etc. up tomorrow night after the first night's shoot.

WHOO-HOO, here we go!

[Larry Rutledge]

Good luck, I'm really looking forward to this one :thumbsup:

[Brandon Rice]

Good luck Norm and Co.!!

[Mark Harris]

Good luck guys. We'll be bringing up the rear with a shoot this week and next weekend!

[Norm Sanders]

Thanks, Larry, Brandon & Mark ... I'll look forward to getting BTS stuff up on here finally! :thumbsup:

Thanks to the flexibility of Jerry (fixitinpost)! He was going to be more of a casual BTS guy for us, and has stepped up to the much more involved Boom Operator. I'll just have my DVX100a on hand as a roving BTS camera ... quick group meeting to show everyone they just have to push the red button & WHAMO, instant BTS footage. :grin:

Hopefully from the two days I have no more than two hours of BTS footage to cut a cool video from.

[scharky]

Looking forward to it Norm, and YES, I finally made it home. What a trip, and now I'm leaving for your house in about 7 hrs.
:)

[fixitinpost]

Looking forward to tomorrow. Should be good fun. It will be very interesting to see all of the same cast from Semele in totally different roles.

[Norm Sanders]

Stefan, tell your wife a HUGE thank you for me ... I feel bad that she's not seen you for about a week, then you're heading right back out for the weekend. You'll have to tell her that you didn't have any fun without her, of course. :)

Yep, Jerry, it'll be cool to see everyone in different characters ... as well as a few of the same crew from SEMELE mixed in with some new ones ... should be a fun shoot for all. I'm super stoked. Just trying to get the sides all lines up for tomorrow & Sunday ... nothing like waiting until the last minute!

[Ted Arabian]

Hey guys, good luck this weekend!!!!

I am so excited for you. (every weekend should be a shoot weekend! It's just so much damn fun!)

Best

-Ted

[Norm Sanders]

Okay everyone, we wrapped our first day of shooting & had a ton of fun. Thought it would be fun to have Rebecca run the slate for a couple of takes & have her wave to all of you ... thought you'd like to see ... of course, as always, she's beautiful.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=752616&postcount=2

[Mark Harris]

You know, just put that on a loop and you get my vote...

[Brandon Rice]

Cool clip. Any BTS pics Norm?

[fixitinpost]

I know Stefan took a bunch, and couple of other people did too... I imagine they'll be coming sooner or later. Just wait till you see the steadicam setup. Remote follow focus, remote video monitoring, the whole nine yards.