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khmuse
10-30-2006, 10:23 PM
http://www.museelectronics.com/production/Violet.jpg

Cast Photos -

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1163052169.jpg
Courtney Halverson as "Violet Milton" (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1237541/)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1163052144.jpg
Nathanael Johnson as "Thomas Elroy" (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1883044/)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1163052108.jpg
Christa B. Allen as "Emily Doyle" (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1568512/)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1163344750.jpg
Kimberly Crandall as "Helen Milton" (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1769745/)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1164998654.jpg
Alex Collins as "Detective Eric Riley" (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1180204/)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165436135.jpg
Eva Barda as "Audrey Jacobson" (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1461133/)

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165472228.jpg
Kara Michelle Hyatt as "Kristi Landen"


This will be another group endeavor and I am pleased to announce that three fellow dvxers have joined in on this project.

Blaine (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=10394) is taking on the duties of Producer, and Slimothy (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=3501) is going to be our gaffer / key grip, webdog (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=11257) is going to assist on camera.

More crew and cast information to follow.

Working poster, obviously some of the data here isn't accurate.

Kyle Stebbins
10-30-2006, 10:27 PM
love the names, lol. this poster is georgeous!!!!!
-kyle

Mike McNeese
10-31-2006, 06:10 AM
Wow, impressive poster. Congrats on getting Lebron...I had my 15 secs of fame with him last weekend when he kicked me in the chest during an expo game.

Weston
10-31-2006, 06:16 AM
Kicked you did he? Damn that lebron... He cut in front of my friend in the dip'n'dots line at the cleveland car show back in high school. No one cared though....... since he was lebron....and since my school was division 65 and his was 1.

Ted Arabian
10-31-2006, 06:39 AM
Hey Kevin, very nice poster! (I, too, enjoyed the names!)

Congrats and good luck!!!

Hope to see you soon!

Ted

Jason Ramsey
10-31-2006, 06:45 AM
Yes, that is a very nice poster indeed.

khmuse
10-31-2006, 10:38 AM
2nd update 10-31-2006:

This will be another group endeavor and I am pleased to announce that three fellow dvxers have joined in on this project.

Blaine (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=10394) is taking on the duties of Producer, and Slimothy (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=3501) is going to be our gaffer / key grip, webdog (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=11257) is going to assist on camera.

More crew and cast information to follow.

Kyle Stebbins
10-31-2006, 12:14 PM
ah, the fest spirit has finally re-planted itself... it's about time! =)
HOORAY!!!

khmuse, this poster is fantastic. did you take this picture solely for this project or did you have it before? either way, it's beautiful
-kyle

Chris Messineo
10-31-2006, 12:31 PM
Beautiful poster.

Chris

khmuse
10-31-2006, 12:33 PM
Hey Kyle,

I can't take credit for this image myself, one of the leads came up with this one. It fit the feel of our film so well that it was an instant winner for us.

Working on locations today. This is a very ambitious project with over 30 locations so there is much work and permitting to get done.

More to follow.

Brandon Rice
10-31-2006, 04:34 PM
LOVE the poster image!

khmuse
10-31-2006, 05:55 PM
Thanks Brandon, I like it too.

Blaine
10-31-2006, 10:03 PM
Well, after having broken down the script I can see we've got a lot of work ahead of us...:beer:

taubkin
11-01-2006, 09:46 AM
Can't wait to see this! :)

HorseFilms
11-01-2006, 09:51 AM
Lookin' good, guys. :thumbsup: I'm looking forward to this.

Tom Marshall
11-01-2006, 01:29 PM
Wow, Sofia Coppola directing. Congratulations on lining her up for this project. This should be a good one to watch. You just know I'll show up on set every now and then though... :)


Well, after having broken down the script I can see we've got a lot of work ahead of us...:beer:
Yeah Blaine, you've got your work cut out for ya on this one! :beer:

EDIT: Did I mention that I'm extremely jealous of the project?

EDIT AGAIN: Oprah Noodlemantra?!? Are you serious????? Is "Oprah" really going to produce this????

MiataFilmSomething
11-02-2006, 11:33 AM
Gotta give more props to the poster. Almost a happy Tim Burton feel. I love it!

Beat Takeshi
11-02-2006, 07:49 PM
I like your poster.
Good Luck!

Sid Barnhoorn
11-03-2006, 04:25 AM
Looking forward to working on the score for this one.

Cheers,

Edgen
11-03-2006, 04:23 PM
Poster looks amazing! Anxious to hear your score too sid! :) cheers!
/j

concannon
11-05-2006, 12:48 AM
LOVE the poster!!!

concannon
11-05-2006, 12:52 AM
Sid is a master at his craft. Check out his website!!!!

Brandon Rice
11-05-2006, 12:58 AM
Yeah, Sid rocks!

Brandon Rice
11-05-2006, 01:06 AM
BTW Kevin.... is your daughter really gunna be in this film?

And did I hear it right, you have 30!!!! locations? That's insane.

Blaine
11-05-2006, 01:15 AM
BTW Kevin.... is your daughter really gunna be in this film?

And did I hear it right, you have 30!!!! locations? That's insane.
Well, I just went over the actual different locations. I think I'd have to say 24. However, in one location we have setups in 5 different rooms. And in a couple of other locations we also talking about multiple setups. It's definitely a challenge.

Courtney's contributions to this project are significant.

concannon
11-05-2006, 01:27 AM
WOW... With the talent already on this film I can't wait to see what you come up with.

khmuse
11-05-2006, 07:52 AM
I will be posting a cast list early in the week. There are two offers out right now that haven't been accepted, but if it all works as I plan, we will have a pretty good list of serious talent involved. All will be current working actors (most with either current episodic, commercials and/or films running).

This one is almost certainly going to be a non compete due to guild rules about DVD usage, but I need to get a clear picture of this from Jarred before deciding one way or another. I really wish that I could have convinced them to take into account how their approach would effect those of us who want to use professional actors.

Brandon Rice
11-05-2006, 07:57 AM
This one is almost certainly going to be a non compete due to guild rules about DVD usage, but I need to get a clear picture of this from Jarred before deciding one way or another. I really wish that I could have convinced them to take into account how their approach would effect those of us who want to use professional actors.

I used professional actors in my sci-fest entry and plan on using several in my dramafest entry. Please explain why the DVD thing affects that?

khmuse
11-05-2006, 07:58 AM
BTW Kevin.... is your daughter really gunna be in this film?

Yes, if I can afford her! Seriously, I am using all guild actors and I am doing this under a SAG contract so everyone will be properly paid and all the guild rules will be followed (she wouldn't work on it if it wasn't done right, she is very protective of her status and meter in the industry). They don't give you any room for allowances, even for family members.


And did I hear it right, you have 30!!!! locations? That's insane.

Yeah, its a lot of setups and a lot of locations. This may seem absurd given the running time, but once everyone sees the final result it should all make sense as to why we did it the way that we did.

Brandon Rice
11-05-2006, 08:00 AM
Cool stuff. I think for a 6 min. short the SAG contracts are a little extreme... just me... Unless you want to do more with this.

khmuse
11-05-2006, 08:02 AM
I used professional actors in my sci-fest entry and plan on using several in my dramafest entry. Please explain why the DVD thing affects that?

Sorry this response is gonna be short as I gotta run right now, 9:30 AM call time...

I will be happy to answer this in detail later, but perhaps this isn't something that should be done in an open, public forum. Suffice to say, the way that these fests are run go right up against the signatory contracts in a number of areas.

I should be back early evening, send me an email or PM if you want to discuss this in detail.

Kevin

Brandon Rice
11-05-2006, 08:06 AM
gotcha will do. see ya

Mark Johnson
11-08-2006, 09:51 AM
Also anxiously awaiting your pontification on this, Kevin.

Kyle Stebbins
11-08-2006, 10:07 AM
Also anxiously awaiting your pontification on this, Kevin.

Nice word... it rocks!
Mark I want you to teach me a vast majority of your never-ending vocabulary when I come to visit you.
-kyle

Blaine
11-08-2006, 10:13 AM
Mark, I think you have a stalker...:huh:

Tom Marshall
11-08-2006, 10:14 AM
Mark, I think you have a stalker...:huh:

...lol...

khmuse
11-08-2006, 12:42 PM
Will be posting cast information (including IMDB links) this evening. All but one role is now cast and I am really happy about the talent that we landed!

Brandon Rice
11-08-2006, 12:45 PM
Looking forward to it Kevin! I'll be watching.

khmuse
11-08-2006, 10:20 PM
Cast photos are now going up on the first page.

More to follow as we get contracts back.

Brandon Rice
11-08-2006, 10:42 PM
Wasn't Nathaniel from your last short as well? He looks familiar...

BTW: Your daughter is gorgeous.

khmuse
11-08-2006, 10:56 PM
Good eye Brandon,

Nathanael was a last minute casting change on "Thou Shalt Not" when Kimko couldn't play the role of the older demon. David took over Kimko's role, leaving the role of the cook "Travis" uncast. Nathanael saved our rear by coming on-board at the last moment. He was excellent in "Numb3rs" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0433309/) and "The O.C." (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783395/) and is one of the most versital actors that I have ever meet.

Thanks for the comments on Courtney, she will be really happy to read your post.

Christa is so cute and bubbly and is becoming a really pretty young woman. I loved her in "13 going on 30" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0337563/) where she played the younger version of Jennifer Garner's character "Jenna Rink". Her current series "Cake" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831376/) is running Saturday mornings on CBS. She is such a solid actress and so mature for her age. I feel really lucky to have her working on Violet.

More cast postings soon.

Brandon Rice
11-08-2006, 11:06 PM
Cool stuff! Looking forward to more :)

StormFactory
11-09-2006, 12:43 AM
Yes, if I can afford her! Seriously, I am using all guild actors and I am doing this under a SAG contract so everyone will be properly paid and all the guild rules will be followed (she wouldn't work on it if it wasn't done right, she is very protective of her status and meter in the industry). They don't give you any room for allowances, even for family members.


Yeah, its a lot of setups and a lot of locations. This may seem absurd given the running time, but once everyone sees the final result it should all make sense as to why we did it the way that we did.Wow. What is your projected budget?

Mark Johnson
11-09-2006, 12:50 AM
Not to hijack this thread, but that's a gorgeous banner, Gregory.

Kevin, you've certainly got everybody's attention with how you're putting this together. Forgive me, because it's probably in the early part of your thread, but what camera are you going to shoot this with?

StormFactory
11-09-2006, 03:03 AM
Thanks Mark!

khmuse - I'm thinking about going SAG. Are you using the SAG Short Film Contract? Where are you getting your Worker's Comp insurance? How much is that running?

Jason Ramsey
11-09-2006, 03:23 AM
That's quite a cast list you got there. That is exciting. I'm looking forward to seeing some more details

Jason

khmuse
11-09-2006, 08:22 AM
Wow. What is your projected budget?


I have only provided SAG with my initial budget so far which was $5500, but I know that things always run over so I am anticipating $7500 plus a number of deferrals.



Not to hijack this thread, but that's a gorgeous banner, Gregory.

Kevin, you've certainly got everybody's attention with how you're putting this together. Forgive me, because it's probably in the early part of your thread, but what camera are you going to shoot this with?


I gotta agree with Mark, that is a really beautiful banner.

I will almost certainly be shooting this with the SDX900, but haven't actually decided yet. I have several weeks to wait for the SAG contracts to come back so I have plenty of time to decide.


khmuse - I'm thinking about going SAG. Are you using the SAG Short Film Contract? Where are you getting your Worker's Comp insurance? How much is that running?



Yes, I am shooting under the Short Film Contract (which will force me to be in the non comp category for this fest as I can't allow my project to end up on the DVD or it would accelerate my deferrals and add considerably to the costs as I would be bumped into one of the contracts that allow for DVD sales).

Worker's comp isn't a big expense as my payroll is being handled by an outside firm and they just charge the appropriate percentages based upon the category that everyone falls into. What is a bigger expense is the short term production insurance, this I typically get through a reseller like Film Emporium. I am budgeting $975 for that as this is what I paid for my last policy (15 days).

HorseFilms
11-09-2006, 09:03 AM
Your daughter is gorgeous.

Gentlemen, lock up your daughters. The Briceman is on the prowl!:)

StormFactory
11-09-2006, 09:29 AM
I have only provided SAG with my initial budget so far which was $5500, but I know that things always run over so I am anticipating $7500 plus a number of deferrals.

I gotta agree with Mark, that is a really beautiful banner.

Yes, I am shooting under the Short Film Contract (which will force me to be in the non comp category for this fest as I can't allow my project to end up on the DVD or it would accelerate my deferrals and add considerably to the costs as I would be bumped into one of the contracts that allow for DVD sales).

Worker's comp isn't a big expense as my payroll is being handled by an outside firm and they just charge the appropriate percentages based upon the category that everyone falls into. What is a bigger expense is the short term production insurance, this I typically get through a reseller like Film Emporium. I am budgeting $975 for that as this is what I paid for my last policy (15 days).I called a few payroll companies for a short web series I wanted to do SAG. It was only going to be a two day shoot and I had two actors that I wanted to pay $100 a day under the contract right above Short Film. Me and a friend or two were going to crew for no money, so only the two actors were going to get paid a total of $400. Trying to find a place that would do the payroll was impossible. I was surprised how much a pain in the ass it would have been. It was easier to just hand out c-notes, but of course that won't satisfy SAG, so I ended up moving on.

If I could get some deal where I could afford the Worker's Comp I would go SAG for my entry. I have a lot of working actors that will do it either way, but it would be cool to do it. But since I only want to spend $250 to $1000 on the whole thing, SAG looks doubtful. Especially since most of my budget will go to food.

I've produced a few projects under the SAG Experimental Contract, which is now the Short Film Contract. You don't have to pay your actors under that contract. If you are paying them you should go to the next contract up. It will give you a few more benefits. I went to the SAG Indie seminar a few years ago and they talked about a way to get around the DVD problem you're talking about. If I remember correctly, going straight to DVD made your contract fall under the television contract, which has no deferments. Thus you would have to pay your actors retroactively the full day rate of six something. However, if you four-wall your film for a weekend, it will meet the "exhibition" requirement of the contract keeping it a "film" not TV. You will not owe your actors any extra money for their work during production. You would only have to pay very small DVD residuals.

For production insurance, in the past have used a place called Slickforce Entertainment. They were really good on price.

khmuse
11-09-2006, 09:56 AM
Hello StormFactory,

Trying to pull off a SAG Short Film Agreement project for a $1000 isn't really possible. The old Experimental Contract had some interesting things about it like the $75,000 budget cap and the ability to shoot a much longer TRT, but it also had other things that were not so pleasant for the producer (did have an experience with a really low budget feature 4 years ago under that contract, but its was too ambitious for a $73,000 project and ended up being basically unsellable). I do like the new Short Film contract as it really does seem to be perfect for smaller (but not too small) projects.

I too have heard of some of the "work around's" for DVD release, but if it was the "intent" up front to go with a DVD release, it is hard to argue that you shouldn't be shooting under a television contract. In the case of these "fest" projects, I don't know that I can get a verifiable accounting of the DVD sales and not knowing what they might be leaves me a bit uncomfortable. I would rather just aim for the 'non compete' category.

I expect that my worker's comp will run about $750 for this entry (again based upon past experiences). I too would love a lower cost solution but considering the potential exposure that you have as a producer, I do feel that its a reasonable investment.

I haven't had Slickforce Entertainment quote production insurance before, but I will certainly consider them for future projects.

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 11:45 AM
Kevin,

I know that there's a place that offers workman's comp for closer to $350, but I don't have the link right now. They gave us that little tip when I went to the SagIndie workshop...

khmuse
11-09-2006, 12:15 PM
Hey Tom,

Would love to find more. If you can find the link, please let me know!

By the way, congratulations on landing a role in "Thread the Needle"! Between it and "Violet", I am going to be pretty busy over next two months. It will be great to work with you again, though its gonna be a little strange looking "at you" through the view finder and not looking "for you" at the monitor.

I think that is great for directors to work as talent, it can only lead to making them better directors in the end. I for one, know that I will never be either, but thats OK, I have plenty to do in my little area.

By the way, who is it you will be having on screen sex with in TTN? Just want to know if I need to bring my beer goggles!

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 01:29 PM
Kevin,

I'll look for the info as soon as I get home this evening.

And thanks! :) I'm definitely looking forward to acting in the piece. It gives me a chance to really focus on one character and work on the story arc from a more focused perspective...

And you're very good at what you do. I love the motivated lighting approach...

As far as who my love will be in the film, rumor has it it's this fine lady:

http://www.allstarcelebrity.com/Actresses/Beckinsale/nerble_-_kate_beckinsale_031.jpg

khmuse
11-09-2006, 01:58 PM
She might be OK, but I really think, that as DP on the film, I should have a bit of input on 'lighting choices' and how it might be effected by wardrobe chioces...

I mean after all, she is SO overdressed in your image. Perhaps I can make a personal visit to discuss how she would like to be photographed?:)

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 02:03 PM
Good point... I think you should pay her a visit... I just can't, for the life of me, remember where I wrote down her address. If you're looking to get the best shots, I hear she likes to be wooed. You can get her a bottle of 37 year old single malt scotch. I hear she has a weakness for that... or if you'd like, I can just PM you some pictures with more of the skin tone color for you to work with... :beer:

khmuse
11-09-2006, 02:07 PM
Blaine was the recipient of my very last bottle of 37 year old single malt, so that's kinda out for me.

It really sucks when you discover that you can't afford (or for that matter even find) a bottle of Scotch that equals your chronological age!

Yeah, now about those "special" pictures...

Blaine
11-09-2006, 02:15 PM
Blaine was the recipient of my very last bottle of 37 year old single malt, so that's kinda out for me.
Hmmm...there's still some left. I was planning on saving that for our next meeting, but there may be hotter priorities...:beer:

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Blaine was the recipient of my very last bottle of 37 year old single malt, so that's kinda out for me.

It really sucks when you discover that you can't afford (or for that matter even find) a bottle of Scotch that equals your chronological age!

Yeah, now about those "special" pictures...

You should have a PM waiting for you Kevin... :beer:

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Hmmm...there's still some left. I was planning on saving that for our next meeting, but there may be hotter priorities...:beer:

Oooh... tell us!!! :)

Brandon Rice
11-09-2006, 02:34 PM
I am so confused right now....

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 02:38 PM
about which part?

Brandon Rice
11-09-2006, 02:41 PM
Is that actress in Violet? I didn't see her on the first page...

Blaine
11-09-2006, 02:42 PM
Oooh... tell us!!! :)
http://www.allstarcelebrity.com/Actresses/Beckinsale/nerble_-_kate_beckinsale_031.jpg

Oh btw, where's my PM? :huh:

Brandon Rice
11-09-2006, 02:43 PM
Wait, do I get a PM too? Is that actress in your movie?

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 02:43 PM
http://www.allstarcelebrity.com/Actresses/Beckinsale/nerble_-_kate_beckinsale_031.jpg

Oh btw, where's my PM? :huh:

You can have her after I'm done... lol

PM on the way... :beer:

Brandon Rice
11-09-2006, 02:44 PM
Can someone tell me if that actress is in your movie? I didn't see her on the first page.

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 02:45 PM
Is that actress in Violet? I didn't see her on the first page...

No, that was from TTN... Kevin asked me who I was having a sex scene with... :grin:

That's actually Kate Beckinsale... and she's an amazing actress!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000295/

Brandon Rice
11-09-2006, 02:46 PM
OH... Ok, sorry, I get it now... lol

Oh, that's Kate! No way! Doesn't look like her... I've seen her in a few movies... she is pretty good, yeah.

Blaine
11-09-2006, 02:48 PM
she is pretty good, yeah.
And she can act a little, too.

Brandon Rice
11-09-2006, 02:48 PM
That's what I meant... pretty good at acting :)

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 02:50 PM
Blaine and Brandon, you both have a PM :evil:

Brandon Rice
11-09-2006, 02:51 PM
uh yeah... I didn't know what the PM was... just got it...

Tom Marshall
11-09-2006, 03:05 PM
I wonder how much I could bribe her to take the part... :evil:

Darkline
11-12-2006, 03:13 AM
The poster is great, as you already know!

The fact you have so many locations in a 6 minute short does sound insane. I cant even think of a pop-video with that many locations. So yes Im really intrigued. I have a feeling you're going to do something very clever with this.

khmuse
11-12-2006, 07:25 AM
Just added another cast photo, still have one lead role in the "offer out" category, but hope to have it locked down shortly.

There are a number of featured cast members, will post images of those too.

Waiting on the SAG contracts and then can nail down principal photography dates.

More to follow...

ezexpress
11-12-2006, 08:36 AM
Looks like a promising project with all of the logistics going into cast crew and actors, can't wait to see it. Awesome poster as well.

Kyle Stebbins
11-12-2006, 08:57 AM
What a cast! My only concern is (and maybe I missed something) why none of your characters we're named Eric or Erica?
-kyle

khmuse
11-12-2006, 10:56 AM
What a cast! My only concern is (and maybe I missed something) why none of your characters we're named Eric or Erica?
-kyle

One of the final casting confirmations to be posted will address this "issue". Don't want to jump the gun until we have a "lock" on the actor; and as you might have guessed, the characters name will be "Eric".

khmuse
11-12-2006, 08:10 PM
Spent a good part of the day location scouting and came up with a couple that I like.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1163390911.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1163390964.jpg

Tom Marshall
11-12-2006, 08:12 PM
Hey Kevin,

Those locations look really nice!

BTW, did you get the link I sent for the workers' comp insurance?

Inexistence
11-12-2006, 08:15 PM
Nice poster! Very refined. Making note of this one!

Mark Johnson
11-12-2006, 08:17 PM
Great location shoots. What is that obelisk-ish looking thing in the foreground of the first?

khmuse
11-12-2006, 08:17 PM
Thanks Tom, I like these two locations a lot myself.

I did get your link to the State Fund Insurance. I think that the policy minimums have gone up a bit since you last checked, but this could still be a better price.

Worker's comp isn't really all that bad of idea, after all, you never know when your talent might fall into the pool!

khmuse
11-12-2006, 08:22 PM
Great location shoots. What is that obelisk-ish looking thing in the foreground of the first?

The "obelisk" is a marker erected in the 1930's that proclaimed the site to have been first "discovered" in the mid 1700s by an expeditionary force sent North from San Diego.

This canyon has upward of 100 old oil derricks still standing. Lots of interesting possibilities.

Tom Marshall
11-12-2006, 08:22 PM
Umm... yeah... I'm paying for a few copays for Mr. Light...

khmuse
11-12-2006, 08:25 PM
Umm... yeah... I'm paying for a few copays for Mr. Light...

Ouch! :crybaby:

Brandon Rice
11-12-2006, 08:37 PM
Kevin, those locations look like where I LIVE?! Where is that?

khmuse
11-12-2006, 11:06 PM
Both of those locations were around the Brea / Diamond Bar area. I also looked around Chino Hills and found a couple of others that were very similar in topology.

Brandon Rice
11-12-2006, 11:08 PM
Uh, not where I live (Santa Clarita/Antelope Valley) hehe... Great locations though!

khmuse
11-12-2006, 11:16 PM
I can see why you might have thought you recognized them, I know areas around Santa Clarita that have a similar look. One of my favorite film locations is in your area (Sable Ranch), I love shooting there.

Brandon Rice
11-12-2006, 11:21 PM
Don't think I've been there... There are several "ranches" out here people shoot at... ever shot at the Halfway House Cafe? THey are filming something there like literally every other week... it's like 300 yards from my place.

khmuse
11-12-2006, 11:30 PM
There are lots of "ranches" in your area. Sable has been in use since the 1920's and has a rich history of film and TV credits.

Is this the "Halfway House Cafe" your referring to?

http://www.santa-clarita.com/cityhall/cd/ed/film/viewone.asp?pic=2419

khmuse
11-12-2006, 11:37 PM
Santa Clarita Valley is a busy filming location. Here is a list of things shooting there last and this week.

11/5/2006 - Fallen (Student)
11/5/2006 - Holy Land (Student)
11/5/2006 - Vacancy (Feature)
11/6/2006 - Holy Land (Student)
11/6/2006 - My Name is Earl (Television)
11/6/2006 - Yunker (Commercial)
11/6/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/7/2006 - Ford - Job 8252 (Video)
11/7/2006 - In My Sleep (Feature)
11/7/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/8/2006 - Heroes (Television)
11/8/2006 - NCIS (Television)
11/8/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/9/2006 - The Dog Whisperer (Television)
11/9/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/10/2006 - Auto Trader (Commercial)
11/10/2006 - Blades of Glory (Feature)
11/10/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/12/2006 - 24 (Television)
11/13/2006 - Auto Trader (Commercial)
11/13/2006 - Big Love (Television)
11/13/2006 - CSI: NY (Television)
11/13/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/14/2006 - Big Love (Television)
11/14/2006 - CSI: NY (Television)
11/14/2006 - Heroes (Television)
11/14/2006 - NCIS (Television)
11/14/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/15/2006 - Big Love (Television)
11/15/2006 - NCIS (Television)
11/15/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/16/2006 - Untitled Farrelly Bothers Project (Feature)
11/16/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)
11/17/2006 - Zoey 101 (Television)

Brandon Rice
11-13-2006, 06:18 AM
Is this the "Halfway House Cafe" your referring to?

http://www.santa-clarita.com/cityhall/cd/ed/film/viewone.asp?pic=2419

Yep, that's it.

Ki-Ki
11-13-2006, 06:27 AM
11/12/2006 - 24 (Television)

EH? What 24 shot there? Wow. [Went all crazy]

<---- Mass 24 fan.

eh!

Brandon Rice
11-13-2006, 06:29 AM
Yeah, what sucks is I've still NEVER been on a 24 set. I do have a piece of the car (Jaguar) they blew up in episode 22 of season 5.

Ki-Ki
11-13-2006, 06:34 AM
I never seen Series 4 or 5. Though I asked Santa very nicely this christmas if i could have it on dvd and he told me to fuck off. Anyway. Thats lucky. Real lucky. I just remembered how much it must rock living in LA.

khmuse
11-13-2006, 09:21 AM
Well its pretty cool if you want to work in the industry, but the traffic down right SUCKS. I was out the door before 6AM today for a 7:30 call time. According to the cars dash display, my average, mostly all freeway driving comes out to 19 MPH!

Ki-Ki
11-13-2006, 09:28 AM
Americans have a cool accent. This american and her kid got on a bus and the child started singing. And it would have melted my heart if i had one. But basically. You guys have cool accents. =/

ANYWHO...I should be moving to america in about 2 years, but only for 6 months. Oh boy. Watch the average death rate increase then.

Brandon Rice
11-13-2006, 09:29 AM
Yeah, traffic does suck... So Kevin, you ever shot at the halfway house?

khmuse
11-13-2006, 10:23 AM
Nope, never shot there, but at both "ranches" and private residences in the area. The production company (Blue Cactus Pictures (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0098644/)) for a feature that Courtney shot last summer (Freaky Faron (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475277/)) was located in the area, so I am pretty aware of the film industry there.

Brandon Rice
11-13-2006, 10:29 AM
Cool... Yeah, a buddy of mine shot at Melody Ranch, over there near placerita.

Blaine
11-13-2006, 11:41 AM
I like the locations, Kevin...they fit what I imagined while reading the script quite well...:thumbsup:

jeremytuttle
11-13-2006, 02:29 PM
I really like the location photo of the golden rolling hills. Your project looks very ambitious with some very beautiful actresses. I'm very interested in how you fit all those locations in 6 minutes (that's about 5 locations a minute) all though if your going to be a non-competing entry you could increase the length if you had to. I would love to see an example shooting schedule to see how you guys are scheduling this out. Good luck guys - Jeremy

BLUESPIDER
11-14-2006, 02:44 AM
I don't post as much anymore but I want to say I really dig your poster + you have a great looking cast.

good luck on your project.

Ted Arabian
11-14-2006, 02:03 PM
Hey Kevin, I just got caught up on your thread! WOW! 25-30 locations. I am VERY intrigued in your story.

Your cast looks amazing. I love the photo of your daughter. Great picture!

I wish that I was in CA, I would volunteer to work on your set in a heartbeat!!!

Good luck getting all the red tape dealt with. (contracts, insurance, etc.)

That is quite a budget you have! Makes my $300 plane ticket look like Monopoly money!

Nice pic of Kate there as well. Makes me want a diet Coke. (or something to wet my whistle! :) )

I'll do better at keeping tabs here. Sounding great!

Congrats on getting Blaine and Tim on board. (I wanna join! :crybaby: )

Ted

khmuse
11-14-2006, 03:29 PM
Hey Ted,

I am really pleased with way the cast is lining up, but since this one will be shot under a SAG contract, we are going to be non compete for sure. Its really the only way to be fair to guild actors as there isn't any reason to jeopardize their union status for a low paying job (and I really can't afford to pay them for a television contract).

By the way, you found a round trip for $300? That's a pretty great rate.

If you are serious about joining in on this one, I would be happy to add you in some capacity; perhaps an "East Coast" consultant?

Kevin

Tom Marshall
11-14-2006, 09:38 PM
Hey Kevin,

David's directing this one, correct? I'd like to come help you guys out and see if I can pick up some good tips from watching him in action...

Brandon Rice
11-14-2006, 09:41 PM
David C's directing? Rad! I am pretty stoked about this one :)

Tom Marshall
11-14-2006, 09:59 PM
What's a yellow?? :D

Brandon Rice
11-14-2006, 10:01 PM
HAHAHA! GO to the cafe...

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=78178

khmuse
11-14-2006, 11:11 PM
Hey Kevin,

David's directing this one, correct? I'd like to come help you guys out and see if I can pick up some good tips from watching him in action...

Hey Tom,

Yes, David is directing this one. As you know, he has a really strong background in film history and is very strong in script coverage. I think that he will do an excellent job. If you would like, you are very welcome to watch (or crew as an AD if you are interested). The story is highly visual, but has some very intense moments as well. I don't want to reveal too much here, but I can get you a script copy if you want a read.

We are having a pre pro meeting Thrusday evening with the crew in Hollywood (The Complex on Santa Monica). Send me a PM or email if you would like to attend.

Kevin

khmuse
11-14-2006, 11:11 PM
Hey Kevin,

David's directing this one, correct? I'd like to come help you guys out and see if I can pick up some good tips from watching him in action...

Hey Tom,

Yes, David is directing this one. As you know, he has a really strong background in film history and is very strong in script coverage. I think that he will do an excellent job. If you would like, you are very welcome to watch (or crew as an AD if you are interested). The story is highly visual, but has some very intense moments as well. I don't want to reveal too much here, but I can get you a script copy if you want a read.

We are having a pre pro meeting Thrusday evening with the crew in Hollywood (The Complex on Santa Monica). Send me a PM or email if you would like to attend.

Kevin

kimko
11-14-2006, 11:17 PM
wow pretty ladies! this should be good! can't wait to see it.

kimko
11-14-2006, 11:22 PM
Kevin, those locations look like where I LIVE?! Where is that?hey Brandon that is a good quote, it reminds me of a Frank Zappa song "you're probably wondering why i'm here, and so am i and so am i":kiss:

Tom Marshall
11-14-2006, 11:52 PM
Where you been hiding, kimko? You feeling better since your injury?

Ted Arabian
11-15-2006, 05:03 AM
Hey Ted,

I am really pleased with way the cast is lining up, but since this one will be shot under a SAG contract, we are going to be non compete for sure. Its really the only way to be fair to guild actors as there isn't any reason to jeopardize their union status for a low paying job (and I really can't afford to pay them for a television contract).

By the way, you found a round trip for $300? That's a pretty great rate.

If you are serious about joining in on this one, I would be happy to add you in some capacity; perhaps an "East Coast" consultant?

Kevin
Wow! I am definitely interested in joining!!! If you feel that there is a legitimate way that I can help, PLEASE let me know. Thanks!

And yes.... I found a great price on my ticket.... Boston to LA, San Jose to Boston for $297 (after taxes!). I hope I can find a similar deal for January!!!

Let me know if I can help!

Ted

khmuse
11-15-2006, 07:58 AM
Hey Ted,

That is a stunning air fare, particularly for a different departure city booking. Congratulations to you or your travel agent.

I will see if I can think of a way of including you on the crew list for Violet. I do suspect that you are going to be very busy over the next two months with TTN, but lets see what we can work out.

Looking forward to working with you on one or two films!

Kevin

Ted Arabian
11-15-2006, 08:30 AM
Yeah, I was pretty stoked to find that airfare. Especially with the 2 different routes! Go Orbitz!

I have also found a RT ticket to LA and back for $208 for a possible flight in for rehearsals.

You are correct about me being busy with TTN. I wasn't kidding when I said that I'd like to help so if you think of anything that a person 3000 miles away can do, let me know. But don't go out of your way to "create" something for me. I'll be there in "spirit." :)

Tom Marshall
11-15-2006, 08:02 PM
I bought the tickets for flying home for Christmas through Orbitz... wound up getting a round trip flight for 4 something... everyone else started at around 650!

khmuse
11-15-2006, 11:41 PM
I just grabbed a rental car off of Price Line. Put in a bid for $15 / day and got one for a week. Total cost of $105. Now considering that I drive easily 1000 a week, thats a great deal. Sometimes you really have to be opportunistic to get the great bargains.

Ted Arabian
11-16-2006, 05:21 AM
Ooh! Can we use that rental car in TTN? You know... for the NIGHT scene on the HWY? :grin:

BTW - GREAT PRICE!!! WOW! $15/day???

khmuse
11-16-2006, 07:52 AM
Hey Ted,

You bring up an interesting subject, namely the difference between "normal" car rentals and "camera" car rentals.

Just to clarify, a "camera" car is any automobile that is intentionally seen by the camera. The difference in rental rates is astronomical. As I mentioned my $15/day price line find, by contrast, I was trying to rent a camera car (just needed any full sized SUV) for a project a few years back and the best price that I could find was $125 / day.

This SUV didn't really have any special features, no camera mount points (though they did allow you to attach a hostess tray), nothing at all that made it any different from any other, except for a permanent tow rig attachment point under the front bumper. The tow rig wasn't included, it was an additional charge (can't recall the rate). The only substantive difference was that we were actually "allowed" to use this as a camera car (a photographic release was part of the rental agreement) and it was insured as a "camera" car.

The obvious standard rules still applied. Things like no high speed driving, no off highway use (or rather very limited) and no actors appearing on camera could operate the vehicle (it had to be towed by another vehicle, driven by a stunt coordinator). In the end it seemed like the differences were paperwork, and not much more.

I am wondering what experiences others have had in this area, or if most, have just gone the gorilla route and used any vehicle that they had access to for a camera car.

As for TTN, I think that if I brought up the idea of using real "camera" car(s) and employing a stunt coordinator, I would be shot down in a heart beat. Not that I have any objection to the gorilla approach, its really a matter for the producer to decide how much exposure they are comfortable with.

This does bring up yet another question, I know that Blaine is acting as the line producer on this one, but are the duties of producer (and responsibility) split between yourself and Mark?

Details, details...

Mike McNeese
11-16-2006, 08:26 AM
For my last short I got lucky with cars...my brother had exactly what I was looking for. And then one of the actors we hooked up with happened to drive a Jag to my first production meeting.

Most recently I used a special on-camera car that was a rental paid for by a client. $300/week...but this is in Ohio...sounds they gouge you out there in LA-LA-land.

khmuse
11-16-2006, 08:49 AM
I am not certain that we get "gouged" here, but everything is so high profile that you really can't avoid following every rule unless you don't mind the risk of getting fined. Doing everything "by the book" certainly adds to costs.

The $300/week rate does seem rather good. How was this car configured?

Mike McNeese
11-16-2006, 01:05 PM
We had photo rights for it...most of the shots were from a tripod looking at the car.

It was a 2007 Mitsu Eclipse from Enterprise.

The on-car rig was from filmtools.com. I think it was one of the stock kits, except for one extra 6" suction cup. Worked great...I'd put the HVX up on it with no hesitations.

Brandon Rice
11-16-2006, 01:07 PM
Wait... so to shoot video of my car, I have to pay money?

Blaine
11-16-2006, 01:35 PM
They're talking about rental cars. Or cars that don't belong to you.

Brandon Rice
11-16-2006, 01:39 PM
Oh ok, gotcha!

Mike McNeese
11-16-2006, 05:04 PM
Yeah, cuz cars have rights, too.

I had to sign one for some ladie's cat a couple months ago.

Paul Coleman
11-19-2006, 07:16 PM
Looking forward to this one. :beer:

235 Studios
11-23-2006, 08:00 PM
Poster and cast look great! Should be a good one ...

Ted Arabian
11-24-2006, 06:36 AM
Hello Kevin and crew! I hope that you all had a great Thanksgiving!

Happy Holidays and Happy ThankGuinness!

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/20191/1164293288.jpg

Ted

Blaine
11-24-2006, 10:15 AM
Purty durned good, Ted. I'm having cold dressing and espresso for breakfast. :thumbsup:

Ted Arabian
11-24-2006, 10:56 AM
Purty durned good, Ted. I'm having cold dressing and espresso for breakfast. :thumbsup:
Well, the best part of Thanksgiving for me has ALWAYS been the leftovers! But that is a new one, for sure! Not the cold dressing..... that is my favorite. But cold dressing and espresso! Gonna have to put that on my list of things to try!

Ted

khmuse
11-28-2006, 11:51 AM
Well, I am submitting my final documents to SAG today for Violet. For those interested, I have provided a link to my budget for this project.

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/Violet_budget.pdf

Under the contract that I will shooting, the cast and crew salaries are deferred, but everything else are actual budgeted items.

Ted Arabian
11-29-2006, 08:35 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!! (gulp!) WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StormFactory
11-29-2006, 08:57 AM
What about your contingency line item? And don't forget to factor in the payroll costs / taxes. When I was looking to pay actors $100 a day one project, it was going to cost $142 a day when all the taxes and processing fees totaled up. Other than that it looks good. Makes me wish you were shooting a feature. Good luck with the project.

Jason Ramsey
11-29-2006, 08:59 AM
Geezzzz. I made that much money in the last 3 years combined! Wow.

Jason

VersuS
11-29-2006, 11:14 AM
Almost $20,000?!?!?! Man....so many sentences come to my mind but none can form something audible.

kimko
11-29-2006, 11:46 AM
well done Kevin. very professional. it will show too!

khmuse
11-29-2006, 12:25 PM
Thanks Kimko,

I am going over to SAG this afternoon to sign the signatory documents and pickup our contract package. I have always found SAG to be pretty easy to deal with considering the size of the origination. The people in the LA office are pleasant and helpful.

I would have no problem recommending the use of a short film contract for anyone that wants to use guild actors in their films.

Jason Ramsey
11-29-2006, 12:43 PM
Would you consider your listed budget to be pretty barebones for a sag short film. I guess I am asking on a scale of 1-10 on projects of similar scale, how would you rate your budget. 10 being highest. Just for my personal curiosity :)

Jason

Brandon Rice
11-29-2006, 12:51 PM
Actually, in what I've seen (SAG projects) this is a very low budget. I was working as a PA on a 14 min. short, that had a 60K+ budget, for four shooting days.

jeremytuttle
11-29-2006, 02:22 PM
That is a hefty budget. Now, if you defer all the actors and crews pay (except maybe the studio teacher... it probably would be hard to find someone like that for deferred pay) then your budget is more around 7,600-7,800... which to say the least is still an eye popping amount.

Also, Super8?!?... I'm very interested to see what you do with that (flash backs maybe?). I can't wait to see this. Cheers - Jeremy

Larry Rutledge
11-29-2006, 02:25 PM
Pardon the ignorance, but what is a Studio Teacher?

Brandon Rice
11-29-2006, 02:27 PM
Pardon the ignorance, but what is a Studio Teacher?

If I am correct... it's an on-set teacher for the people who are still in school... it's required by SAG.

Larry Rutledge
11-29-2006, 02:31 PM
D'uh...I guess I should've figured that out. It is exactly what the title says it is :embarasse.

So I assume the requirement is based on the age of the cast members? In other words, if all the cast are 18+ then no teacher required, right?

Is there no concession for shooting time? In other words, if you are only shooting one day, is a teacher really necessary?

Thanks,
Larry

Jason Ramsey
11-29-2006, 02:32 PM
You know what would be a great idea (to me anyways). A sag thread. A thread to host the pertinent information for the indy maker regarding a sag project. Links, advice, etc. Just my feeling anyways.

Jason

Brandon Rice
11-29-2006, 02:33 PM
I have worked on several sets where a teacher is required... not sure it's an age thing as much as it's a "if they're in school" thing... cause an 18 year old could still technically be in school... I could be wrong there though...

khmuse
11-29-2006, 06:37 PM
The laws are different state to state so my experience only applies to productions that are shot in California or for productions shot anywhere in the world where they are employing actors that reside in California.

The studio teacher is administered by the DLSE (Department of Labor Standards Enforcement) and is not only responsible for the education of the minor but also enforces the child labor laws (working conditions, number of hours, etc). Their presence is required regardless of school being in session (weekends, holidays, summer break, etc) as they act as the child's advocate in terms of the working conditions. The penalty for not having a certified studio teacher is considerable and nothing you want to consider. In many cases, a California minor (working in the entertainment industry) will have a California certified studio teacher with them even if working in another state or country.

This is a highly detailed subject and probably not something that I will cover in my response here other than to offer that I can guide both parents of minors or producers that wish to employee minors by providing links to Q&As that are common. I have a teen daughter who was subject to these rules for years so I have a lot of experience on both sides. Luckily for us, she is now a legal 18 status teen (though 17 biologically) meaning that she is no longer subject to the rules having graduated high school when she was 15.

khmuse
11-29-2006, 09:29 PM
For anyone interested, one of our cast members in "Violet", Christa B. Allen is a guest star on tonight's episode of "Medium" (NBC).

Check her performance out if you get a chance.

Brandon Rice
11-29-2006, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the info Kevin! One quick Q for ya... is the actor (or actress) for Eric/Erica not cast yet? Or because this is a non-compete film, you won't be having someone in the script named that?


meaning that she is no longer subject to the rules having graduated high school when she was 15.

Dang! She must be smart! I graduated about two months after I turned 17... and I thought I was doing good, lol.

khmuse
11-29-2006, 09:45 PM
We just got our SAG production number this afternoon, so I will be announcing the last of our lead cast in the next few days. The character name is "Eric Riley" and we have been waiting for our approval before signing this actor.

Actually, both my daughters are pretty intelligent, I count myself as very lucky.

Being a High School graduate (she is actually in her second year of college now) Courtney is highly employable as she can play younger (her range is about 14 - 17) but can work as an adult. It is a big advantage as she isn't restricted in her working hours and production doesn't need to employee a studio teacher. Its been a big boost to her career.

Brandon Rice
11-29-2006, 09:53 PM
Very nice! Yeah... I've got several brilliant friends... one who is graduating with a BA at age 19... and another who already got his Associates degree and is in UCLA at 18...

Me on the other hand... lol. I had enough education in high-school :) Can't stand classrooms myself... a weakness I guess... anyway, sorry to bring it off topic!

Back to Violet!

khmuse
12-01-2006, 10:49 AM
Just updated the first page, our final principal actor has been added. We are now compliant with the Eric/Erica requirement.

Larry Rutledge
12-01-2006, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the info on the studio teacher, makes a lot of sense. Looking forward to your project.


I just went and checked the first page, looks like you've assembled a nice cast. I would love to have a chance to work with experienced professionals, but I would also be scared to death :eek: :grin:

Good luck on the film :thumbsup:

Brandon Rice
12-01-2006, 10:58 AM
Thanks for the update... lookin' good so far.

Ted Arabian
12-01-2006, 11:47 AM
Updates look great, Kevin! Very excited for THIS film!!!

khmuse
12-02-2006, 10:01 PM
Just reviewed the footage for our first day of principal photography on "Violet" and I am really happy. It is so nice to work with professional actors across the board. Every take was spot on and it allowed David, our director, to really fine tune the performances.

Despite the 6:30 AM call time I couldn't be any happier with how this is turning out so far. The only complaint was the weather, it was a brisk 42F this morning. Good thing we had a trailer for the talent to keep warm in.

Had a great day yesterday with Mark and Rob at our primary location for "Threading the Needle". I got a chance to do a proper site survey, this really clarified a number of things for me. We begin principal photography on this one in just over a week, I am really looking forward to shooting this one too.

khmuse
12-03-2006, 10:27 AM
Here are some screen caps from one scene from our first day of principal photography.

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_34_insert_01.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_34_insert_05.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_34_insert_06.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_34_insert_08.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_34_insert_09.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_34_insert_13.jpg

More to follow.

Blaine
12-03-2006, 11:05 AM
The camera loves Christa, doesn't it. Those are beautiful, Kevin.:beer:

Sid Barnhoorn
12-03-2006, 11:53 AM
Nice shots :)

StormFactory
12-03-2006, 12:24 PM
Their presence is required regardless of school being in session (weekends, holidays, summer break, etc) as they act as the child's advocate in terms of the working conditions.Whenever I see young children on small film projects without a studio teacher present, I scratch my head at the reasoning that one is not needed. Glad to see you point out that it does not matter if it is summer or a weekend. If you have children working in your film you need a studio teacher. The presence of the parent or parents does not supercede the teacher requirement.

This brings up a big point that I wanted to make with regards to SAG actors. As a producer, director, filmmaker, etc.,...

YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE A SAG PRODUCTION TO USE SAG ACTORS.

It is the responsibility of the SAG actor to do SAG signatory work. Not yours. The only two things that you must do in the state of California to employ people is 1.) pay the minimum wage and 2.) have workers' comp. That's it. Most of us with our small weekend projects don't do those two, so why worry about SAG?

Actors want to act. Period. Celebrities might be different but actors want work. The only time I hear actors ask if the project is SAG is if they are new to the guild or they are involved in guild politics. Give an actor a great, meaty role, SAG or not, and they'll jump at the chance to play it.

I say this not to discourage you from going SAG. As khmuse has talked about, dealing with SAG can be an easy pain-free and very helpful experience. My experiences with them have also been pleasant.

The purpose of this post is to just to also let you know not to be scared of using SAG actors when you're not signatory. SAG has no jurisdiction over anything you do. That is until you go signatory. Then SAG has a say over every project your signatory company does.

By the way, khmuse, did you form a company for this particular project to go SAG signatory or did you go signatory under your name or production company?

Blaine
12-03-2006, 12:32 PM
I can understand the fear people have when working with SAG but that comes from not knowing... It's really an easy thing to do and SAGIndie has made it even easier. They offer workshops (in L.A.) the second Thursday of each month that helps indie filmmakers understand the different options available to them. That want to make it easy so filmmakers will give SAG actors work. They are just trying to look out for the actors' interests which is, afterall, their charter.

Brandon Rice
12-03-2006, 01:45 PM
This brings up a big point that I wanted to make with regards to SAG actors. As a producer, director, filmmaker, etc.,...

YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE A SAG PRODUCTION TO USE SAG ACTORS.

It is the responsibility of the SAG actor to do SAG signatory work. Not yours. The only two things that you must do in the state of California to employ people is 1.) pay the minimum wage and 2.) have workers' comp. That's it. Most of us with our small weekend projects don't do those two, so why worry about SAG?

Actors want to act. Period. Celebrities might be different but actors want work. The only time I hear actors ask if the project is SAG is if they are new to the guild or they are involved in guild politics. Give an actor a great, meaty role, SAG or not, and they'll jump at the chance to play it.

I say this not to discourage you from going SAG. As khmuse has talked about, dealing with SAG can be an easy pain-free and very helpful experience. My experiences with them have also been pleasant.

The purpose of this post is to just to also let you know not to be scared of using SAG actors when you're not signatory. SAG has no jurisdiction over anything you do. That is until you go signatory. Then SAG has a say over every project your signatory company does.


Very true. I was able to cast Anthony Tyler Quinn who is SAG and quite experienced, but hadn't had the type of role I wanted to cast him in, and it was a film with a subject matter that was very personal to him, so he jumped at the chance...

I will indeed go through SAG once I do a feature, but for shorts and whatnot right now, I think going non-SAG is what I'll do.

Brandon Rice
12-03-2006, 01:46 PM
Here are some screen caps from one scene from our first day of principal photography.


http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_34_insert_09.jpg




Beautiful image Kevin! Wonderful framing!

khmuse
12-03-2006, 01:48 PM
Hello StormFactory,

You are correct, it is the actors responsibility to confirm that a production that they are contemplating working on has a production ID number and that the producer is a signatory. This does make it incumbent upon the producer to be honest and if they are not a signatory, nor is their production approved, they need to make this clear in their audition notices and at every point in the process.

I was at an audition last Thursday evening where the producer outright lied to the talent (my daughter in this case) stating that they were going to shoot under a "SAG Experimental" contract. This is absolutely false as the SAG Experimental contract was replaced over 2 years ago. I am furious that this producer would be so bold and even worse, waste our time. We drove over 3 hours round trip for an audition that, had we know its status, would have never accepted in the first place. There really should be an enforcement mechanism and penalties for this type of misrepresentation.

I do agree that it is the actors choice to honor or not their obligation to the guild, but to take away that decision from the actor by misrepresenting the nature of a project is simply wrong. All actors want to work, but professional actors make their living from acting and isn't fair to ask them to put their career at risk.

When looking at a project that you want to use professional actors for there is really little reason not to shoot under a union contract unless you are so grossly under-budgeted that you simply can't afford to do things right. This can be a big red flag for anyone, talent or crew, it indicates that there is a greater probability that the project has budget concerns or that the producer really doesn't have the talent's interest in mind.

I know that there are a lot of great actors out there who are non union, but in a market like LA, the ratios are much different than in other non film markets. Here, if talent isn't well represented or not yet union, they are often either new or not really all that good.

For me, I want to work with the best talent that I can. It is after all their performances that appear on screen, so I am willing to do what is necessary to make this possible. This does mean that I have a few limits placed upon what I can do, but in general I don't find these to be an issue for the type of work that I take.

In answer to your last question, I am a signatory producer as both an individual and a under the production company.

khmuse
12-03-2006, 01:51 PM
Beautiful image Kevin! Wonderful framing!

Thanks Brandon, glad you liked it!

I agree Blaine, the camera does really love Christa. She is absolutely radiant in her scenes and such a strong young actress.

Brandon Rice
12-03-2006, 01:51 PM
Absolutely agree there Kevin... being honest is the #1 thing to do! Though for shorts I'll still probably never go SAG, as I don't look to profit off of the films themselves, and generally I AM working on a VERY tight budget, but I have many people who know my work and have worked with me in the past, so they know the product will have a much higher production value than the budget, and more importantly, it'll actually get done.

Brandon Rice
12-03-2006, 01:53 PM
I agree Blaine, the camera does really love Christa. She is absolutely radiant in her scenes and such a strong young actress.

Totally, some people just SHINE on screen! She's one of them to be sure.

You're shooting on an SDX900 or something, right? 2/3 CCD camera? I noticed grain (noise) in the images you posted... I am assuming these images are raw from camera, without CC, correct? And I hate still frames for the very reason they show so much grain (noise) when in motion it isn't even visible...

Kevin, do you think you can go through some more lighting setups for us like you did on Thou Shalt Not? I really enjoyed those in-depth posts.

khmuse
12-03-2006, 02:03 PM
I agree Brandon, there is nothing more disappointing for cast or crew than to work on something that doesn't get finished. When you add to that that neither got paid, well that's really unfair.

I do fully understand the desire to shot things on a "VERY tight budget..." I too try to get as much as I can on screen for as little as possible. What you should understand is that it really isn't much more expensive to work under a SAG Short Film contract as you can completely defer the talent's salaries (assuming that they agree to work under those terms). The only time that this would change is if you do get distribution, which we all know is nearly impossible for a short film.

I would encourage anyone to at least attend a SAGIndie meeting once and ask all the questions that you want. You may find that its not as difficult nor expensive as you might have thought and if you are wanting to head your career in that direction eventually, why not start earlier than later?

Brandon Rice
12-03-2006, 02:07 PM
Thanks Kevin, can you point me (and many others I'm sure) to a site or something where we can find out when the next SAGIndie meeting is? That'd be awesome!

And for the record, on most films I do, the crew is paid, and the cast is generally deferred, so you're assumption is probably correct that a SAG Short Film project would probably be about the same amount.

khmuse
12-03-2006, 02:12 PM
Totally, some people just SHINE on screen! She's one of them to be sure.

You're shooting on an SDX900 or something, right? 2/3 CCD camera? I noticed grain (noise) in the images you posted... I am assuming these images are raw from camera, without CC, correct? And I hate still frames for the very reason they show so much grain (noise) when in motion it isn't even visible...

Kevin, do you think you can go through some more lighting setups for us like you did on Thou Shalt Not? I really enjoyed those in-depth posts.

No, these scenes were shot on a DVX, but I will be mixing a number of different formats in this project including the SDX and Super 8mm. I just got our SAG approval a few days ago so I didn't have time to line up the SDX rental and for these shots, I knew I could get what I wanted from the DVX, so based upon talent availability I went for it.

Yes, these are raw camera grabs (the color balance being achieved in camera) and yes, there is some of what you are calling "noise" but really, this is simply the nature of under-sampled color space and compression. The motion images from these scenes are very "noise" free. In lower light conditions I will use the SDX as it has much better low light performance based upon the larger imager.

I will be happy to post lighting setups when we are using lighting. This is entirely grip equipment and natural light shots.

More to follow.

Blaine
12-03-2006, 02:13 PM
Thanks Kevin, can you point me (and many others I'm sure) to a site or something where we can find out when the next SAGIndie meeting is? That'd be awesome!

Here's the site you want:

http://www.sagindie.com/

Their meeting schedule is:

http://www.sagindie.com/workshops.html

with the next workshop on December 14th. It's well worth attending. Be sure to have them validate your parking...

khmuse
12-03-2006, 02:15 PM
Thanks Kevin, can you point me (and many others I'm sure) to a site or something where we can find out when the next SAGIndie meeting is? That'd be awesome!

And for the record, on most films I do, the crew is paid, and the cast is generally deferred, so you're assumption is probably correct that a SAG Short Film project would probably be about the same amount.

Happy to provide a link.

http://www.sagindie.org/

If you are paying your crew and deferring pay to your actors, your costs would be insignificantly different so I would recommend that you at least consider it at some point.

Edit: Blaine just beat me to it, but regardless, I would recommend attending.

Brandon Rice
12-03-2006, 02:17 PM
No, these scenes were shot on a DVX, but I will be mixing a number of different formats in this project including the SDX and Super 8mm. I just got our SAG approval a few days ago so I didn't have time to line up the SDX rental and for these shots, I knew I could get what I wanted from the DVX, so based upon talent availability I went for it.

Yes, these are raw camera grabs (the color balance being achieved in camera) and yes, there is some of what you are calling "noise" but really, this is simply the nature of under-sampled color space and compression. The motion images from these scenes are very "noise" free. In lower light conditions I will use the SDX as it has much better low light performance based upon the larger imager.

I will be happy to post lighting setups when we are using lighting. This is entirely grip equipment and natural light shots.

More to follow.

Cool stuff! Yeah, again, I wanted to preface my "noise" comment with saying I know in motion they look great! I have always noticed that my grabs always have some visible noise, but look awesome, and noise free in motion. Thanks for the info and I look forward to your lighting setup posts!


Here's the site you want:

http://www.sagindie.com/

Their meeting schedule is:

http://www.sagindie.com/workshops.html

with the next workshop on December 14th. It's well worth attending. Be sure to have them validate your parking...

Thanks Blaine! And Kevin :) I will be looking into this, and hopefully attending the next meeting, if not the meeting after.

Blaine
12-03-2006, 02:20 PM
I got Blaine to attend one about a month ago, I think he found the experience very enlightening and actually pleasant.
You did...and it was...


If you are paying your crew and deferring pay to your actors, your costs would be insignificantly different so I would recommend that you at least consider it at some point.
And if you're using SAG actors why would you want to put them in that situation. The SAG Short Film Agreement and Ultra-Low Budget Agreement both make it fairly easy and painless to go the SAG route. Check the highlights out here:

http://www.sagindie.com/contracts2.html

Under both of these agreements you may mix union AND non-union actors.

khmuse
12-04-2006, 03:15 AM
Here are a few more raw frame grabs from our first day of principal photography.

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_17_cap_01.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_17_cap_02.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_17_cap_03.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_17_cap_04.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_17_cap_05.jpg

http://www.museelectronics.com/production/scene_17_cap_06.jpg

More to follow.

Ted Arabian
12-04-2006, 05:12 AM
Nice grabs, Kevin! I especially love the second one. That golden light in the background is just beautiful!

And is that guy wearing a MEMBERS ONLY jacket??? Wow! What closet did that come from? :grin:

Looking good, my friend!

-Ted

khmuse
12-04-2006, 07:23 AM
Hi Ted,

Thanks, glad you liked the grabs. The golden lighting is actually a manipulation of the in camera settings with filtration on the mattebox and a really well chosen location. Getting the "look" that we need is something that I try to do in production, not post (as much as possible).

Nearly all the wardrobe for this came from two well know vintage clothing shops here. The "MEMBERS ONLY" style jacket as well as the sweater and vest that "Emily" is wearing came from JET RAG in Hollywood. We also purchased other vintage items from BUFFALO EXCHANGE in Fullerton. Very little was purchased as new items except for the school uniforms (not seen in this scene) that we got from an on-line uniform wholesale supplier, which we will have to "age" a bit before we use them.

Looking forward to seeing you on set for "Threading the Needle" soon.

Kevin

Sid Barnhoorn
12-04-2006, 07:30 AM
Very nice shots!

khmuse
12-04-2006, 08:15 AM
Thanks Sid, so glad you liked them. I will be sending you a link via a PM once I get closer to a lock on a few of the scenes. This will at least give you an idea as to the "feel" that we are getting.

I know that this one will be a bit of a challenge to score based upon the number of edits.

Working on the next location now.

More to follow.

Edgen
12-04-2006, 08:40 AM
wew hew! incredible grabs! I'm anxious to actually hear what they are saying now ;) Good luck! Oh, and ya... "oooh the 80's" :)

/j

Charli
12-04-2006, 08:40 AM
Nice shots, yes, the camera loves the girl.

Ted Arabian
12-04-2006, 09:38 AM
Looking forward to seeing you on set for "Threading the Needle" soon.

Kevin
Ditto!

Jason Ramsey
12-04-2006, 09:40 AM
wow.

wow to this whole thread. Great info, and great grabs, etc.

Jason

khmuse
12-04-2006, 10:14 AM
Thanks Charli, glad you liked the frame grabs.

and

Thanks Jason, glad you liked the information that we are posting too. I am trying my best to keep this thread informative and useful.

More to follow.

Ralph Oshiro
12-05-2006, 02:11 AM
Say what you will about that little 'ole DVX100 4:3 1/3" 4:1:1 SD camera . . . that thing still makes some real puurty images! (In the skilled hands of someone like khmuse, of course!). 'Course having a cast that's easy on the eyes helps, too!

khmuse
12-05-2006, 07:44 AM
Thanks Rez!

I gotta agree, in the right conditions, the dvx is still a great little camera! I plan on mixing images from a number of different cameras for this project, including 2/3" and film.

Casting from really strong and attractive talent never hurts either!

Ralph Oshiro
12-05-2006, 07:48 AM
I saw that . . . I love the idea of using super 8 film! And the SDX . . . cool!

Beat Takeshi
12-05-2006, 11:32 AM
Doesn't that guy remind you of Dexter?
If this has been said forgive me, I didn't read through all the posts.
Nice screenies dude.

Tom Marshall
12-05-2006, 12:40 PM
Wow, this thread has really taken off the past few days!

Kevin, looking very good. Can't wait to actually get to work on the thing... :)

Yes, the talent here is very strong, as you can tell.

I attended the sagindie workshop and agree that it's something that should definitely be on your agenda as an independent filmmaker. They discuss from short films up to low budget. Their main focus is ultra low budget and modified low budget during the workshop.

And last, but not least, I actually own a members only jacket... :laugh:

khmuse
12-05-2006, 02:21 PM
Doesn't that guy remind you of Dexter?
If this has been said forgive me, I didn't read through all the posts.
Nice screenies dude.

Glad you are liking the frame grabs, but who is "Dexter"?

khmuse
12-05-2006, 02:23 PM
Hey Tom,

Can't wait to get you on set but with all Ted has planned for you on Threading the Needle, it might not be until our third weekend of production.

Perhaps I will give Nathanael the Members Only jacket when we are finished and the two of you can start a club!

Brandon Rice
12-05-2006, 02:24 PM
When's your next day of shooting Kevin?

Beat Takeshi
12-05-2006, 02:44 PM
The show called Dexter, on showtime.

khmuse
12-05-2006, 02:46 PM
Hey Brandon,

We are shooting at a school this coming weekend and then out at an old cemetery in Pomona on the following. Got the permits for the school, but not certain if we have gotten everyone's permission on the cemetery yet. In between I will be shooting a number of SFX scenes for "Threading the Needle" so its a pretty busy December so far.

I hear that you will be ADing for us next month out at Cable. Good as we will certainly need someone to keep us all on our toes for that set of scenes.

It will be good to finally meet you in person next month, though with the number of posts exchanged, I almost feel as if we already have.

Brandon Rice
12-05-2006, 02:50 PM
Kevin, awesome! Looking forward to hopefully seeing some more screens next weekend!

Yeah, that's the plan for January! I think it should be a blast, and I'l looking forward to meeting you as well!

Blaine
12-05-2006, 06:07 PM
Glad you are liking the frame grabs, but who is "Dexter"?
I think he's talking about this: Dexter (http://www.sho.com/site/dexter/sneakpeek/home.do)

khmuse
12-06-2006, 10:46 AM
The Courtney Halverson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1237541/) actress who is playing Violet in "Violet" will be appearing in a music video that will debut today for the band "The Fray".

This video entitled "How To Save A Life" was directed by Mark Pellington (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671210/)and from the effort that went into it, should be a very nice piece.

The debut schedule for today is as follows:

MTV's TRL will debut this video at 3:30 PM
The online video will be available at mtv.com (http://www.mtv.com) beginning at 4:30 PM
and the prime time premier will be at 11:00 PM following "The Real World"

If you get a chance check it out.

Brandon Rice
12-06-2006, 12:07 PM
I just heard that song on the Billboard Music Awards a couple nights ago. Cool stuff.

khmuse
12-06-2006, 12:24 PM
Just added another cast photo on the first page.

Brandon Rice
12-06-2006, 01:03 PM
I have to say, you got a good looking cast! Very important (IMO)

khmuse
12-06-2006, 02:09 PM
Yeah, a good looking cast never hurts. Now if you have seen the crew photos, you would know that it all balances out.

We just booked one more of our cast, an actress from France who will be playing "Madam Clavel" a French teacher in a class room scene. She will be flying back home the day following her scene. Sure hope I don't need to fly her back for ADR!

I will try to get her picture up on the first page soon.

khmuse
12-06-2006, 10:19 PM
Just added another cast photo to the first page.

Brandon Rice
12-06-2006, 11:36 PM
Dang... can I come hang out at your set? lol.

Noel Evans
12-07-2006, 05:21 AM
KH Im a fan as you know and Im expecting in this fest BIG THINGS. Your approach is very pro, always good because theres learning to be had. Your daughter really has somethng special reminds me of the same thing I see in Julianne Moore and Nicole Kidman.

khmuse
12-07-2006, 08:55 AM
Hi ncje,

Thanks for the kind comments about Courtney. She would be so happy to be even mentioned in the same context of Julianne Moore or Nicole Kidman as these are two actresses that she respects very much. I know that reading your post will put a big smile on her face!

My goal in these fests is to at a minimum, not embarrass myself, and I feel fairly confident that Violet will accomplish that. This is a learning experience for me as I don't often work in the capacity of a producer (actually I am not the producer as we have a great one, but I am sort of a junior co-producer on this project) so it is good for me to hone my skills in this area. Frankly, being a DP couldn't even be called work compared to what a producer does. It is, in my opinion, the toughest job in the business.

Blaine, our producer, is awesome. He is very good at all the details and he seems to really enjoy it. Me, I think in terms of photometric calcs, shots lists, framing, and other more mundane technical things. Getting more exposure to the producers job is something that will help me as I have a better idea as to how my decisions effect others in the crew outside of my specific area of responsibility.

Thanks again for your comments!

Kevin

Blaine
12-07-2006, 09:52 AM
This is a learning experience for me as I don't often work in the capacity of a producer (actually I am not the producer as we have a great one, but I am sort of a junior co-producer on this project) so it is good for me to hone my skills in this area. Frankly, being a DP couldn't even be called work compared to what a producer does.
Don't let him fool you. Kevin is carrying a huge load on this project. :thumbsup: "junior co-producer" my a$$...:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

khmuse
12-10-2006, 10:00 AM
Had a short shooting day yesterday due to talent availability. We did complete a classroom scene that we needed. This was important to finish as the actress playing our French teacher had to leave to go back to France today, so not completing her scenes would have been a bit of a problem. Blaine (our Producer) managed to grab a few BTS images of this scene.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165772718.jpg
This was a pretty straight forward setup. Our main room sources were 3 China Balls with ECAs, these were motivated by the
overhead fluorescent fixtures. The key was a 4 bank (3200k) Caselite 4 with an eggcrate grid, fill and hair lights were from a
number of small par can fixtures with 3200k sources. Had to bounce a fair amount of gold reflector to overcome the high color
temperature spill from outside hitting the vertical blinds.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165772682.jpg
This BTS (not a frame grab) was from near the camera position used in the master shot. We only had a limited amount of time
to get set dressing the way that we wanted, so its a bit more sparse than ideal.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165772751.jpg
Here is a wardrobe continuity shot for our two lead actresses.

I will post some frame grabs when I get a chance.

Ted Arabian
12-10-2006, 10:19 AM
Hey Kevin, SWEET LIGHTING in that classroom! Love the way you breakdown what you use to do the lighting, too. Very informative.

I cannot wait to personally see you at work. It is going to be great!

I'll see you later today!

Ted

hjanssen
12-10-2006, 12:22 PM
excellent work! I can't wait to see the film!

Brandon Rice
12-10-2006, 03:03 PM
The Courtney Halverson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1237541/) actress who is playing Violet in "Violet" will be appearing in a music video that will debut today for the band "The Fray".

This video entitled "How To Save A Life" was directed by Mark Pellington (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671210/)and from the effort that went into it, should be a very nice piece.

The debut schedule for today is as follows:

MTV's TRL will debut this video at 3:30 PM
The online video will be available at mtv.com (http://www.mtv.com) beginning at 4:30 PM
and the prime time premier will be at 11:00 PM following "The Real World"

If you get a chance check it out.

Just saw the video... didn't like the song... pretty cool video though :)

Ted Arabian
12-11-2006, 12:23 AM
I just heard that song on the Billboard Music Awards a couple nights ago. Cool stuff.

Just saw the video... didn't like the song... pretty cool video though :)
Huh? First you thought the song was "cool" then you didn't like the song? I'm confused.

Ted Arabian
12-11-2006, 12:30 AM
Kevin, Great seeing you again today! Wow, what a PRO you are. You really know your stuff. I cannot wait till tomorrow and REALLY see you at work!

Blaine, you are my hero! What a gem you are to have on a set!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Courtney, congrats on the video! I loved it. I enjoyed the song and I was mesmerized by the visuals. I loved the constantly moving light. I am wondering, and maybe you don't know, but was that "light" symbolizing a car's headlight that ultimately took someone's life? Or am I reading too much into it and the light is just really cool!?

Either way, I enjoyed it! (thanks for sharing, Kevin. You must be so proud in so many ways.)

-Ted

khmuse
12-11-2006, 07:19 AM
OK, here are a few frame grabs from the class room scene. I would have liked a bit more time to dress the set, but I think that it reads
as a French classroom and with the French being spoken, it should be just fine.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165849885.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165850088.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165850126.jpg

Next shooting day has us at a very old cemetery. Should be fun as this location has a lot of character.

Ted Arabian
12-11-2006, 07:31 AM
Kevin, you are going to win the dramafest catagorie of the PRETTIEST CAST! That's for sure!

Looks great, man! Really. Looks great.

Jason Ramsey
12-11-2006, 07:43 AM
Thanks Kevin, for this very informative thread. Thanks for taking the time to lay out the various facets of your process and work.

Jason

khmuse
12-11-2006, 07:53 AM
Kevin, Great seeing you again today! Wow, what a PRO you are. You really know your stuff. I cannot wait till tomorrow and REALLY see you at work!

I really enjoyed getting to watch a bit of your rehearsal with talent yesterday. You are what I would call an actor's director, very aware of your actors needs and equally respectful of their time. This should make for very pleasant working set. Looking forward to beginning principal photography today on "Threading The Needle"!



Blaine, you are my hero! What a gem you are to have on a set!

Gotta agree with you there. Blaine is such a great guy to work with, so nice to have someone that you can count on.


Courtney, congrats on the video! I loved it. I enjoyed the song and I was mesmerized by the visuals. I loved the constantly moving light. I am wondering, and maybe you don't know, but was that "light" symbolizing a car's headlight that ultimately took someone's life? Or am I reading too much into it and the light is just really cool!?

Courtney is already in class, but I will pass this along to her to read later. I can tell you that there were a number of shots that didn't make it into the final project. One that she described to me was so emotional that the director couldn't stop crying. They had Courtney recreate the event where the director's wife died in his arms in a hospital bed. This was so emotional (and perhaps a bit cathartic for the director) and so intense that it would have completely changed the tone of the video. Courtney described it as a draining bit of acting, but very rewarding to shoot even if it never gets seen.


Either way, I enjoyed it! (thanks for sharing, Kevin. You must be so proud in so many ways.)

I am proud in more ways than words can express.:)

khmuse
12-11-2006, 07:56 AM
Thanks Kevin, for this very informative thread. Thanks for taking the time to lay out the various facets of your process and work.

Jason

Thanks Jason, really glad you are finding this thread useful.

The next few days has me shooting "Threading The Needle", so I will post more here on "Violet" once we start planning the shots for our next set of scenes later in the week.

Brandon Rice
12-11-2006, 08:07 AM
Huh? First you thought the song was "cool" then you didn't like the song? I'm confused.

LOL... cool stuff because it's a popular song that was on a big show (the Billboard's) lol.

Brandon Rice
12-11-2006, 08:08 AM
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1165850126.jpg



Love that shot there Kevin! Nice nice.

khmuse
12-11-2006, 10:28 AM
Thanks Brandon, glad you liked the shot.

You should have seen how blue the vertical blinds were reading with all the sun spilling on the back of them. The gold bounce just worked and I was lucky because I didn't have anything big enough that was tungsten balanced to work with. I got lucky on that one, a blue cast would have ruined the color balance that I was working to achieve (look at the BTS image to see how it was reading before the bounce).

Brandon Rice
12-11-2006, 10:36 AM
Yeah, I can see how much sun was spilling in there... Looks like you were able to counter-act that though and make the shot work! Thanks also for the BTS and the breakdown of the lighting setup! Most educational.

Max R. Wilson
12-11-2006, 01:30 PM
looking really good!!

khmuse
12-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Thanks Max, glad you like it.

Ted Arabian
12-12-2006, 03:16 AM
LOL... cool stuff because it's a popular song that was on a big show (the Billboard's) lol.
Oh! Okay. I was confused!!!

Tom Marshall
12-13-2006, 01:32 PM
Hey Kevin, are you feeling any better?

Ted Arabian
12-14-2006, 12:33 AM
Kevin, how you doing man? I hope that you are feeling better soon.

Thanks again for everything!!!

Can't wait to get back in January!

-Ted

Charli
12-14-2006, 06:47 AM
Liked thos bts shots. Sweet.

TimurCivan
12-16-2006, 01:46 AM
yousee i liek your film because of the prodominatly female cast.... :)

khmuse
12-17-2006, 11:36 AM
Sorry for being out of touch for a few days, but doing better now and promise to catch up as soon as possible on some of the last posts.

Charli, glad you like the BTS shots. Hope to post more in a few days.

TimurCivan, the cast does have a higher number of females as a portion of the story occurs at a private (girls) school, but the main story line is between the male and female lead. The scenes shot so far haven't been part of the main story line but more of the back story. I can say with high confidence that the quality of acting will easily exceed the eye candy, we have a very strong all professional cast.

TimurCivan
12-17-2006, 12:07 PM
i have no doubts. I look forward to it.....

Blaine
12-17-2006, 12:15 PM
It's good to see you back, Kevin. :)

khmuse
12-17-2006, 12:46 PM
Yeah, at least 50% back as of right now. I am still mad at myself for letting us miss shooting yesterday. I know you worked hard at getting that location and I am really sorry for calling it off, but I don't think I would have done it justice.

Oh well, back to work!

Blaine
12-17-2006, 12:51 PM
It made no sense shooting yesterday with you not being well. The weather wasn't that good anyway. I spoke to Mickey about rescheduling. She would prefer mornings since she has to be at the Historical Society between 1 and 5, OR on the weekend. When you've had a chance to catch up and get back on track we'll talk about the best time to reschedule...Christmas is upon us...

Jason Ramsey
12-17-2006, 01:27 PM
Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better and getting back on track Kevin. Keep the wonderful info. coming that this thread provides. This is one I'm gonna have to print after the fest is all over.

Jason

Ted Arabian
12-17-2006, 09:14 PM
Hey Kevin, Glad to see you "up and around!"

Missed you man!

-Ted

Blaine
12-24-2006, 12:58 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAShttp://hosthideout.com/images/smilies/xmasmiley.gif

khmuse
12-24-2006, 02:14 PM
Thanks Blaine and a very Merry Christmas to you too!

I count one of my blessing this year having the opportunity to get to know you and other dvxers that I have had the pleasure to work with. There are a number of really upstanding people on this board which have become both business associates and really good friends. Best Christmas gift ever!

Blaine
12-24-2006, 04:41 PM
What a great sentiment, Kevin. I feel the same way, too. I wished I could have said it so eloquently...:thumbsup: :beer:

Slimothy
12-26-2006, 06:44 PM
Hope you guys had a good holiday. Looking forward to the next shoot day.

Ted Arabian
01-18-2007, 07:30 AM
Hey guys! What is the status over here????

I know that we've kept you busy with TTN and the CES took you away as well. I hope that you are still on track to deliver!

Spread some love when you can!

-Ted

khmuse
01-18-2007, 08:11 AM
Getting ill, shooting TTN, the CES in Las Vegas and the holidays all took their toll on my schedule. Just found out that one location isn't available for 2 weeks so this shot (a really important one) is a problem. I hope to be back on track in the next few days. Since we are in the non compete category and the fest isn't important to this project at all, it may slip and miss the time frame, but I hope to have at least a "version" done by the deadline.

Now, I need to get back to planning shots and you need to get back to editing so...

Ted Arabian
01-18-2007, 08:14 AM
Yes sir! Back to editing!

Sorry to hear about the lost location. That's a bummer.

Okay, now I'm off to edit!

khmuse
01-23-2007, 08:50 AM
Well as of yesterday I found out that our lost location (lost when I was ill in December) won't be available again until the 10th of next month. This means that we will miss the deadline for the fest. I may cut around this critical scene, but it won't be the same without it. I am a bit disappointed, but as this fest wasn't our real motivation for shooting this, it really won't make any difference in the end.

I will be posting a few more frame grabs later and with any luck should have our last interior location locked down in the next few days. Once I have the location and talent I can schedule the lighting and grip rentals and get these scenes knocked out.

Brandon Rice
01-23-2007, 08:52 AM
Looking forward to it Kevin! The stuff I've seen has looked good so far!

Ted Arabian
01-23-2007, 08:59 AM
Hey Kevin, Really sorry to hear that news. I know that the fest wasn't your motivating factor to shoot VIOLET but it is disappointing news none the less.

Looking forward to more grabs when you get them. And as always, a little 101 on your set-ups!

-Ted

ignatius
01-23-2007, 10:29 AM
It really blows that your location got moved on you, but I just wanted to say that based almost solely on the poster, I cannot wait to see Violet. Everything else that's been going on with the project (cast, locations, etc.) just adds to the draw, but that initial poster is not only beautiful but intriguing. Good luck with finishing it.