Seriously... the next fest?

[TheatreGuy]

I know that we've JUST gotten through with Horrorfest but the creative juices are dripping down my chin and I want to start drooling over ideas for the next fest.

Any idea when the next genre of the fest will be announced?

I don't even need all of the details like WHEN it will be. Just would like to know WHAT it will be.

Sorry to be so anxious. But the brain is churning and I would like to have a focus! :)

[Jason Ramsey]

I thought you already announced your next entry on your I.D. thread :) kee hee

[Weston]

i'd like to know when it would be announced...like if they said "we'll tell you in 2 weeks"

I just keep checking way too often.

[JoshuaNitschke]

Arghhh the wait is driving me insane.

[jeans]

I know that we've JUST gotten through with Horrorfest but the creative juices are dripping down my chin and I want to start drooling over ideas for the next fest.

Any idea when the next genre of the fest will be announced?

I don't even need all of the details like WHEN it will be. Just would like to know WHAT it will be.

Sorry to be so anxious. But the brain is churning and I would like to have a focus! :)

Don't waist that precious chin juice Ted. You can create your own focus. We already pretty much know it's going to be something more centered around acting and story. I'll bet you could start on it right away and still fit it in whatever category the mods decide. Plus, if not, who cares, you'll make something else.

[VersuS]

exactly jeans, I guess it's either drama or comedy and I'm working on both just to be on the safe side :)

[Mark Harris]

comedy is just tragedy happening to someone else...

[SilverWolf]

I would love to do an action movie but I could swing drama. I definitely wouldn't do a comedy because it's a hard thing to do right.

[VersuS]

at first I voted for comedy but to be honest...drama is better (and I have a nice story,hehehe) ...I was afraid of drama because I thought it's difficult to do something dramatic or tragic without being cheesy, but then I put some serious thinking into it and got a nice story that I would like to tell about stuff that concern us all....

if it's comedy...well....I ll have to think of stuff that make you guys tick without bringing an american pie (coz I hate this kind of humour)....

[Weston]

if i did comedy I think I'd shoot for british comedy. Overall though I think it might be harder to watch bad comedy films than bad films from a different genre. Not to say everyone here will make a bad one....but comedy would be harder to pull off.

[VersuS]

and you wont have any blood, splatter, vfx to keep your interest....

[Weston]

right.....nothing but failed jokes and awkward silences. Its cringe inducing now.

[235 Studios]

Action or drama would be great IMO. I am anxiously looking forward to the anounement as well. But I don't want to wait for teh next fest for an excuse to sharpen my skills- so i think it is better to just go ahead and put toghether a project regardless of if there is a fest or not. No time like the present to get started!

As for comedy- yes British humor is the best! I love it, nothing quite like it! :) :beer:

[VersuS]

still, when I think of brit comedy i have the following in my mind:

- monty pythons
-IT crowd
- little britain

[235 Studios]

still, when I think of brit comedy i have the following in my mind:

- monty pythons
-IT crowd
- little britain

Nice selecton! :beer:

[TheatreGuy]

Action or drama would be great IMO. I am anxiously looking forward to the anounement as well. But I don't want to wait for teh next fest for an excuse to sharpen my skills- so i think it is better to just go ahead and put toghether a project regardless of if there is a fest or not. No time like the present to get started!

As for comedy- yes British humor is the best! I love it, nothing quite like it! :) :beer:
Tre, true..... and True!

[Kyle Stebbins]

comedy is just tragedy happening to someone else...
NICE!

[235 Studios]

still...i'd hate to get excited about any project and then have to change. It might be hard to shift gears once i'm into something.

I can understand that- that would be frustrating. But if a project is worth investing your time and energy in, then it is worth completing. I would rather fall in the proactive side of things and make it happen for myself, rather then be on the reactive side, waiting for the next thing to come along. If the project is good, you'll generate interest regardless of if there is an actual contest or not. And you could always find a contest to enter it into- there are tons of festivals all over. Just my thoughts.

[Cynic821]

But if a project is not good, it will still garner interest because it is going to be viewed to be voted on for a contest.

[Tom Marshall]

I thought we agreed on Piratefest...

[Cynic821]

Pirates would be too much PWNAGE for this site to handle.

[TimurCivan]

ninjas. Stright up ninjas. Ninjas with Crossbows. And Flamethorwers. ........ Crossbows that shoot Flaming arrows.....


NinjaswithFmaingarrowcrossbowsFEST.

[VersuS]

rocky horror pirate show....pirates in lace....

[Mike McNeese]

Drama makes the most sense to balance out the male-bent/action/FX/heavy fests that we've had thus far. But, what about opening up the genre, and picking more of a theme? Just a suggestion...

[JoshuaNitschke]

Well, narrowing the theme down would be bad in my opinion, you're just inviting more repetitive storylines.

[VersuS]

zombies and heroes were theme fests....I think Jarred and some people (myself included) want a genre (like drama) in order to push the story-driven projects forward

[VersuS]

Well, narrowing the theme down would be bad in my opinion, you're just inviting more repetitive storylines.
well said!

[Cynic821]

Someone will manage to put a zombie or a knife in a drama short, or any one garunteed.

[235 Studios]

But if a project is not good, it will still garner interest because it is going to be viewed to be voted on for a contest.

Yep- which is why it is preferable to complete a project within a contest- you get a whole lot more exposure that way.

[Mattykins]

I actually think it would be fun to have a line or two we need to use in the course of the short and open the flood gates to any genre. It lets creativity run wild. That's just me though.

[235 Studios]

rocky horror pirate show....pirates in lace....

LOL! :beer: Now that would be quite a fest ...

[Kholi]

Someone will manage to put a zombie or a knife in a drama short, or any one garunteed.

Guilty as charged.

[VersuS]

unless you go for the 'XYZ film festival' or 'ABC short films festival' you will always have to submit to a genre or theme festival/competition...if you want to be totally creative with your work you go for the above, if you follow the rest, you can be very creative but since you follow a guideline (genre,theme,quote used inside the film) you are limited creatively IMHO

this is not necessarily a bad thing, but its not the most creative way you can go
creativity means you use whatever is inside your head without focusing on something specific, but if the line is '...after that, I promised myself that I would never drink milk again' then you are not totally creative since you MUST do something about milk and maybe you wouldnt if you were not given this piece of dialogue

[TheatreGuy]

Well, narrowing the theme down would be bad in my opinion, you're just inviting more repetitive storylines.
Absolutely!


zombies and heroes were theme fests....I think Jarred and some people (myself included) want a genre (like drama) in order to push the story-driven projects forward
Here! Here!


Someone will manage to put a zombie or a knife in a drama short, or any one garunteed.
That's fine, as long as it is a Drama... like a zombie visiting a shrink because he's suffering from a loss of touch with his prior existence! :)

[Cynic821]

unless you go for the 'XYZ film festival' or 'ABC short films festival' you will always have to submit to a genre or theme festival/competition...if you want to be totally creative with your work you go for the above, if you follow the rest, you can be very creative but since you follow a guideline (genre,theme,quote used inside the film) you are limited creatively IMHO

this is not necessarily a bad thing, but its not the most creative way you can go
creativity means you use whatever is inside your head without focusing on something specific, but if the line is '...after that, I promised myself that I would never drink milk again' then you are not totally creative since you MUST do something about milk and maybe you wouldnt if you were not given this piece of dialogue

Thats what FilmFights.com is for

[Brandon Rice]

I really want to do drama fest...

[Mattykins]

It was only an idea. I mean I can write several genres well enough. And I have friends that can take things I can't write. I just figured to throw the idea out there. I understand fully that you will have to submit to a genre, I am not a stranger to film.

However I will agree with you on the standpoint that you can't be 100% creative. That doesn't exist in the industry, however, even with your lead line "...after that, I promised myself that I would never drink milk again" anything is really possible, granted milk will be involved in the beginning and end of the film, but the middle is open. And it can cross lines between genres. Like I said, it was only an idea and I do understand the concept of creativity, thanks for the explanation though.

[TimurCivan]

Noir. I wrote this right after Hero and SCifest.... so far ive been ignored.

[VersuS]

noir is a damn hard thing to do :(, it requires sets, costumes, lighting work, amazing score and lots of booze/smokes hahahahaha

[TheatreGuy]

Hey John, what's the matter? You have everything there that you just listed.... well, except the lights! But you're working on that! :)

[VersuS]

booze and cigs yes ;)

[235 Studios]

Film Noir, booze and cigs- sounds like a fun fest to me!

[TimurCivan]

noir is a damn hard thing to do :(, it requires sets, costumes, lighting work, amazing score and lots of booze/smokes hahahahaha


Awww you men it needs .... WORK! lol. poor baby..... jk

[JoshuaNitschke]

I think Film Noir is still gonna invite repetative stuff. It's a very defined genre in terms of lighting style, dialogue, and themes (femme fetale, private eye, etc.).

I love Film Noir. My first short was that. I'm not really anxious to revisit it again either though, and I think I'd get really tired of 60 some of those.

But if the next fest is DramaFest....you can do a Noir short. That's so much better IMHO.

[Kholi]

I smell drama comin' on.

Am I going to get in trouble for doing Action/Drama? That's what OLD BOY is.

[Mark Harris]

I don't think Noir has to mean it has to be set in 1942.

[Kholi]

BRICK comes to mind.

[VersuS]

there was a great anime series called Noir....

[JoshuaNitschke]

I don't think Noir has to mean it has to be set in 1942.
I didn't say it had to be. Look at Sin City, Blade Runner, Brick, etc.

I still think you are going to have way too many repetative themes with noir.

[Mark Harris]

I didn't say it had to be. Look at Sin City, Blade Runner, Brick, etc.

I still think you are going to have way too many repetative themes with noir.

Certainly, but not unlike any other fest we've had here that has certain themes attached to the genre. I was more responding to Versus, who seemed to think we all needed to get 1940's sets built and a bunch of old cars to be Noir.

I like comedy and drama, but those are extremely broad. For comedy we would HAVE to have a column for X-Factor, like "Is it funny."

I hate the idea of requiring specific elements ALA the 48 hr fests. Ick.

I have a Noir short I want to do and may do next anyway. So I may only participate in the next fest if it happens to coincide with something I want to do.

[VersuS]

i think a general 'drama' idea is much better
that way people are invited to write a drama story but they are not focused in genre.....you can do sports drama, comedy-drama, noir drama, sci-fi drama, horror drama...superhero drama...drama is the essence of the story, the rest is up to you to figure out

we just want you to make us cry :P

[Kholi]

Drama doesn't have to be about crying...

[Mark Harris]

Drama doesn't have to be about crying...

You afraid of your feelings? That what you're saying?

[Cynic821]

it shouldnt be a "do this fest" it should be a "dont do this fest"

[TheatreGuy]

There's no crying in Drama! sorry, that sounded funnier in my head than it looks in print! :grin:

[VersuS]

listen, crying is something that doesnt have to do with good or bad situation, it has to do with each person individually

i cry sometimes with romance which is not tragic but very happy, still it makes me wanna cry

after all I put the :p just to show that I didnt mean it

[Kholi]

You afraid of your feelings? That what you're saying?

Get off my back, Mark.

>=\

(just kidding)

[TheatreGuy]

I wanna cry right now!!! :crybaby:

[TimurCivan]

What ever it is..... Im ready to make somehting.

[Kholi]

I wanna cry right now!!! :crybaby:

There there, grown ass crying man. They shall announce the next fest soon enough.

[VersuS]

I wanna cry right now!!! :crybaby:

ran out of ladders? :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

[VersuS]

What ever it is..... Im ready to make somehting.

unless it's a musical, then I ll sit this one out :crybaby:

[TheatreGuy]

Cool! I'll stop crying now! :) See! I stopped!

[TheatreGuy]

Dude, I've got a BARN full of ladders!!!

2-step, 3-step, 4 foot Little Giant, 6-foot, 8-foot and 22-foot extension!!!

gee, sounds like I have a ladder fetish or am very self conscience about my "size"

[Mark Harris]

What ever it is..... Im ready to make somehting.

What about a Gay Bigfoot Fest?

If you're so eager, sucka, I gots a project to start.

[Kholi]

What about a Gay Bigfoot Fest?

If you're so eager, sucka, I gots a project to start.

Yeah, dudes. Why don't you forego the fest and leap into action on something. especially if you already have ideas.

[TheatreGuy]

LMAO!!!!!! GAY BIGFOOT!!!

Sashe' squach!

[TheatreGuy]

Kholi... did you look at the title of this thread??? We're here to bitch and moan about it!!! :grin:

[Kholi]

Sorry. Please, continue.

[Charli]

You all need to get a life. I just walked the beach, had lunch with my boss,
enjoyed the day. Take a couple of weeks off and don't think about a fest
of any kind, just go enjoy life you geeks.

[JoshuaNitschke]

Yeah, dudes. Why don't you forego the fest and leap into action on something. especially if you already have ideas.
Already have. :)

[Kholi]

Awww. but DVXuser is my source of entertainment at work. That and writing. And actually working.

Hey! I'm at work!

[TheatreGuy]

You all need to get a life. I just walked the beach, had lunch with my boss,
enjoyed the day. Take a couple of weeks off and don't think about a fest
of any kind, just go enjoy life you geeks.
Too cold to walk the beach... huddled by the fire as it is.
Don't have a boss... well, unless you count my wife and I will be having dinner with her.
enjoyed the day? No. I was too busy freezing my butt off and worrying about the next fest!!!

:grin:

[TimurCivan]

What about a Gay Bigfoot Fest?

If you're so eager, sucka, I gots a project to start.


Hey lets go. Gaybigfoot, needs a few things to be fabricated first. so there will ba tleast a month or two before all thescultpures are ready. If yo ugot somehtign inthe meantime lets go.


Umm Gay Bigfoot is the code word for a project imworking on.

[Mark Harris]

You asked for it.

And Gay Bigfoot is the name Timur uses when he goes to Raves.

[Weston]

damn...when i saw how many posts this has gotten i figured it had been decided.

i thought i wanted drama...but gay bigfoot fest sounds like the one

[TheatreGuy]

Weston, That farm location of yours would make for a GREAT Gay Bigfoot movie!!!

[cinealma]

A page of the script has been leaked.


*******SPOILER ALERT *******




EXT. OUTSIDE A SMALL CAVE NEAR THE RIVER - NIGHT

Gay Bigfoot and Cha-Ka snuggle.

GAY BIGFOOT
I wish I could quit you.

CHA-KA
Ak, blaka mawt fakaka!

GAY BIGFOOT
Will you stop! I told
you, I don't know nobody
named Wild Boy.

Cha-Ka smiles and licks Gay Bigfoot's paws.

CHA-KA
Maka jimo ta ga suki gwampa.

Gay Bigfoot strokes the long hair on Cha-Ka's back.

GAY BIGFOOT
Now you're talking, baby.
(getting up)
I'll go and get the stool.

CHA-KA
Gumba! Gumba!

As Cha-Ka starts to hop around and dance, a stranger watches
from the bushes.

Gay Bigfoot returns holding a large stepstool. The stool is
painted pink with little piggies all over it and covered with
strange dark and lumpy stains.

GAY BIGFOOT
Heeerrree's Big-gy!

The large creature lurking in the bushes jumps out,
startling Gay Bigfoot who falls to the gound. Gay Bigfoot
lands on top of the stool and shatters it to pieces.

The creature towers over him.

GAY BIGFOOT
Chewbacca?

CHEWBACCA
Rowwwrrrrrr!!!

GAY BIGFOOT
I... I... I thought you
were still back in Philly.

Chewbacca stares down at Gay Bigfoot as he loads his deadly
laser cross bow.

CHA-KA
Sheego fugi!




:)

John G.

[Weston]

Weston, That farm location of yours would make for a GREAT Gay Bigfoot movie!!!



Gay Bigfoot....the aloof and socially inadequate yet highly stylish creature of the nearby forest sneaks down to the farm to get a look at some of the cows....


SOME OF THE GUY COWS....

[TimurCivan]

Gay bigfoot is not happy. he just tore off the arm of someones whose nails we has painting.... hes so pissed.

[cinealma]

Poster has now been leaked...



http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/13091/1161124912.jpg




John G.

[Kdawg]

haha, that looks like Chakka from Land of the Lost!!

[cinealma]

It is!

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=736326&postcount=78



John G.

[TheatreGuy]

So, which one is gay? Not Chewy! Please don't tell me Chewy gay!!!!!!!!!

(not that there is anything wrong with that! :) )

[Charli]

Why oh why did I log on today?

[VersuS]

big Chewy disclosure coming!!! stay tuned!!!

chewy IS NOT GAY!

[VersuS]

http://www.c2tc-movies.com/images/Camden%20Shirt%204.jpg

[Kyle Stebbins]

hahahahahahaHA -- god that page of the script is awesome.

can't wait to see the finished film! ;)

[TheatreGuy]

http://www.c2tc-movies.com/images/Camden%20Shirt%204.jpg
John, you ran and grab your favorite Star Wars shirt, took a picture of it and posted it here at 3:30 in the morning Athen's time???

Wow! That is dedication.

[Kyle Stebbins]

haha... this site feels so much like home.
what a kooky thread.

[TimurCivan]

Thank you mark. What was gonna be a serious museum quality pece of art is now well...... Chewie with a nice wardrobe.

[Zak Forsman]

this thread is so far off the mark now that I actually feel like I'm jacking it by throwing another vote in for "Drama".

[TimurCivan]

Thank you thread jacker...... killed the Flo...... jk

[JakesSA]

How about a documentary? I'm sure lots of us have thought of actually doing our own docu (for those who have n't done one yet).

It's pretty wide open as far as subject is concerned. We'd probably have a much better chance of selling a docu than ever selling a feature (or short) anyway.

I stay in South Africa and I sure have a number of topics to cover.

JakesSA

[VersuS]

documentary is again a hard thing to do RIGHT, you have to know more things than just film-making techniques to pull out a documentary that does not look like a jackass episode and I think a documentary does not apply to the story-driven fest we're looking for

however documentaries of course can sell better than any other shorts...

ps. a 6minute documentary would not work IMHO

[jpbankesmercer]

Surley R2D2's also gay.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/710000/images/_711715_cp_d2.jpg
Shape remind you of anything?

[VersuS]

absolutely!!!!, KIT is gay as well, in the episode where he was transferred into a portable TV, he was always asking Michael if he didnt love him anymore

[JakesSA]

"I think a documentary does not apply to the story-driven fest we're looking for"

I'm not sure about that. Documentaires are all about the story. The purpose of a film fest is to show what you are capable of as a filmmaker (or wannabe). In this case what you could convey in 6 min. Doing a docu would really test your creative skill. Telling a "real" story and getting your message across. Obviously it would still include the normal facets of cinematography, lighting, sound, etc. but it would be mostly about the content and how it was put together to make it compelling. IMO a good story is remembered long after any big sfx movie. Anyway just my 2c.

[VersuS]

I think documentaries are very special in the whole sphere of film-making and that is why there are not so many people doing documentaries, people with extremely good skills and very creative minds.

I guess most people would sit this one out because not many would find an interest in doing documentaries.

[Ralph Oshiro]

I vote for . . .

ACTION/THRILLER/CRIME DRAMA

Won't that make for an EXCITING contest?

[VersuS]

all i one package? :S

dramaaaaaaaaaa, i got the script ready ,hehehehhe

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

I think "Crime Fest" would be broad enough to encompass:
Action, Thriller, Noir, Crime Drama, Buddy Cop, After School Special

[Mark Harris]

I think "Crime Fest" would be broad enough to encompass:
Action, Thriller, Noir, Crime Drama, Buddy Cop, After School Special

And about 5000 bad tarantino rip-offs...

[Darkline]

a chain smoking emotionally detached cop on the edge!

wicked... I cant wait.

[SilverWolf]

I think "Crime Fest" would be broad enough to encompass:
Action, Thriller, Noir, Crime Drama, Buddy Cop, After School Special

CrimeFest would be hot and you would have to work on the story otherwise it wouldn't make any sense at all

[Ralph Oshiro]

I think "Crime Fest" would be broad enough to encompass: Action, Thriller, Noir, Crime Drama, Buddy Cop, After School SpecialI AGREE!!! Yes, Jack, YES!!! CRIMEFEST!!!!!!!!!!! Woohoo!!!

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

And about 5000 bad tarantino rip-offs...
whoa ... we'd need a few more mirror sites

[TheatreGuy]

I think that a few people may feel like we've just had "crime fest!" :grin:

[Mark Harris]

whoa ... we'd need a few more mirror sites

We needed more mirror sites last time anyway.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Let's have Mark-is-Grumpy-in-the-Morning Fest :laugh:

[VersuS]

a nice idea would be what they did with 50 quid festival,

make a budget limit fest, 50 dollars for example, where you have to state where you spent those 50$

[TheatreGuy]

No way! I'm sinking at least 3 digits into my next entry!!!

[Herman Witkam]

And about 5000 bad tarantino rip-offs...
Oh well, Quentin Tarantino has been ripping off stuff as well....Lady Snowblood, Seijun Suzuki (Tokyo Drifter/Branded to Kill) etc...

It could be seen as quoting, since he often even uses the original music from these films as well.

In my opinion, he just rips off stuff less people have seen and gets away with it :D

[Mike McNeese]

What about No-DialogueFest!?

[VersuS]

you mean like silent movies? well so far some people have done so in other fests, i did it as well

[Ralph Oshiro]

Umm hmm . . . new banner time!

[TheatreGuy]

Damn Rez, your graphics are SO SLICK!!!

[Ralph Oshiro]

Thanks, Ted! THIS is the genre I LIVE for! I'm gonna shoot this next no matter what. Michael Mann--watch your ass!

[TheatreGuy]

Cool! Looking forward to it! Is there a babe in a bikini in that backseat of that cop car??? :grin:

[Ralph Oshiro]

As always, I'll cram some scantily clad hot chick in the script somehow! I would LOVE to use Alejandra, the star of RUNWAY, in this next one, but she just lives too darn far away. I've got a couple AWESOME-looking actress' phone numbers crumpled up around my desk SOMEWHERE. Really wanna try for the 'R' rating this time around too.

[TheatreGuy]

HA HA!!!! Atta boy!

[TimurCivan]

Jerry Bruckheimer EVerythign explodees for no reason Fest.


People who cant write, or cant even make a complete sentence ca ntotoally place as long as theres lots slomo and Explosions in slomo..... and people diving away from the explosions..... in slomo.....

[Darkline]

YES!

I have 3 matches, tissue, and toilet roll!

[Mark Johnson]

As always, I'll cram some scantily clad hot chick in the script somehow!

Rezfactor, you are my hero. Bless you, ... you politically incorrect bastard!!!

Oh, and damn do I love that banner. Seriously.

[Ralph Oshiro]

. . . you politically incorrect bastard!!!That's me!


Oh, and damn do I love that banner. Seriously.Thanks, Mark! That's a high compliment, coming from someone like you!

[Kyle Stebbins]

Really wanna try for the 'R' rating this time around too.

Yes!!!!

Also, you really have a knack for tasteful posters and banners, Rez... I love it. It's so subtle but man, it looks professional. Looking forward to Metro!

[LuzCruz]

Can we do some comedy puhhhleeeze

[Mark Johnson]

It's drama, dude. .... DRAMA!

[Kholi]

LuzCruz, You do know there's Dramedy. Drama/Comedy? It'll still fly...

You guys, Drama is going to be broad. It's just going to entail that you put some worthwhile story into the material. =)

[cinealma]

How about the Project Greenlight submission test? Somebody could write a six-page script of straight dialogue, unattached to any time, place or genre. Just the dialogue. Then, everybody makes a film. Can be any genre. The dialogue must be used verbatim and no new dialogue can be added. That'd be kind of fun.


John G.

[Mark Harris]

How about the Project Greenlight submission test? Somebody could write a six-page script of straight dialogue, unattached to any time, place or genre. Just the dialogue. Then, everybody makes a film. Can be any genre. The dialogue must be used verbatim and no new dialogue can be added. That'd be kind of fun.


John G.

I'd rather stick my head into your type-writer.

[Owen]

That was done in the "One Script to Rule them All" DVXUser fest...

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

yes when the fest was new and small, like 4 or 5 films small
...
and though very creative and resourceful, it yielded results that you wouldn't want to watch 60 of.

[Chris Messineo]

and though very creative and resourceful, it yielded results that you wouldn't want to watch 60 of.
Ain't that the truth. :)

Chris

[cinealma]

I'd rather stick my head into your type-writer.

That can be arranged, but she won't be in your area until January. Currently she's the guest attraction at Helmut's Bed and Bondage resort in L.A.

I can also arrange a "date" for you, too, if you don't like crowds.

:) :) :)


John G.

[TheatreGuy]

I'd rather stick my head into your type-writer.
Bwaaa haaaa haaaa!

Gotta still go with Drama. Individual and unique dramatic stories.

[GenJerDan]

Or why themed or genred or any of that right now?

Why not Editing.

Or Sound?

Or Lighting?

Something specific-skill-oriented. Not that anyone really needs to hones of those skills. Ahem.

[Kholi]

That was the point of the Drama vote: to encourage people to hone their writing skills, or create something that's story/character driven as opposed to effects and-the-like.

[GenJerDan]

Well, with one teeny-tiny screenwriting forum here and a zillion hardware-ish tech forums, that might not be what people come here for.

[Mike McNeese]

If there's one thing I want to get better at, it's writing...the most important part of any movie. I come here for the tech, but I'm beginning to understand that without the writing and creativity, the tech is void.

[GenJerDan]

Have you checked out some of the writing sites? Very useful. But even more useful would be a local group ("real life") for better and more immediate feedback.

(That isn't meant to sound like you can't/shouldn't do it here. )

[cinealma]

If there's one thing I want to get better at, it's writing...the most important part of any movie. I come here for the tech, but I'm beginning to understand that without the writing and creativity, the tech is void.

Star Wars 1, 2 and 3 for example.


John G.

[Kholi]

Well, with one teeny-tiny screenwriting forum here and a zillion hardware-ish tech forums, that might not be what people come here for.

The online Community for Filmmaking - Writing is part of that process.

From what I saw last fest, everyone is constantly excelling in the technical aspects of filmmaking. Sound is improving to a tolerable level, visuals are looking a lot more cinematic, on and on.

What lacked heavily was an engaging six minute tale... so that's what next fest is aimed at.

Nobody's telling anyone not to do Action/Drama, or not to include special effects. The point is: have them serve the story.

[Mike McNeese]

What lacked heavily was an engaging six minute tale... so that's what next fest is aimed at.

Agreed. And I'm not saying to do a story-driven piece just to make it easier on the viewers, but because a story-driven piece will have a more universal like-ability by people outside of our DVXUser.com circles...i.e., you'll end up with a movie that you can take from this forum and spread it around to other fests and stuff to share the talent and art with a bigger crowd.

[Matt Sconce]

I recommend these two books:

http://www.amazon.com/Screenwriting-Dummies-Laura-Schellhardt/dp/0764554867/sr=8-1/qid=1161289523/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-1533979-1560850?ie=UTF8

and

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Screenwriting/dp/0028639448/sr=8-2/qid=1161289559/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-1533979-1560850?ie=UTF8&s=books

But back to the topic....I think Drama would be the best, because it puts the focus on the story. I think we will see some amazing movies when that much attention is paid to the storyline.

[Geoff_R]

I don't think having the next fest focusing on drama is going to result in better movies/stories. I don't think anyone entered horrorfest without first thinking of 'story'. There are plenty of films in horrorfest that have great story intentions and a few that followed through with execution; those that didn't more so lacked in areas of structure & logic.

I don't think it matters whether or not you set out to create a character based movie or 'you're going to focus completely on story' this time around. In the end, some people will be able to craft together a cohesive story that flows beautifully and others won't. I'm thinking back to Similo which is still by far the best work I've seen coming out of these fests. I've shown that film to lots of people, both involved in film and those who aren't. For me, that story, (it's structure, concept and execution) are aspects of filmmaking that cannot be absorbed like cinematography, sound or editing. You can learn the technical stuff by reading books, working on sets, working with gear, but creating great stories is an entirely different art. I think you can teach yourself structure, you can learn screenwriting software and read a hundred books on how to write scripts and characters but in the end it boils down to pure creativity. Just as some people are naturally more intelligent than others, some are naturally more creative than others and know how to apply that creativity with the precision of a neurosurgeon. We're all putting the focus on story; sometimes we're experimental, other times we're linearly narrative. No matter what kind of visual effects or high concept ideas are floating through our head, it's all grounded in story to begin with.

Conceptually, I feel a lot of films delivered. There were plenty of interesting, fresh ideas, but the dialogue and structure was dragging many of the entries down to mediocre levels. I think one thing that would truly help is minimizing some of the heavy vertical integration many of us filmmakers have. Not only are we directing, shooting, producing and editing, but we're writing as well. That is very rare in the real world. I personally don't think I'm a good writer. I think I'm decent, decent meaning average. That's not good enough. To make great films, you need a great writer to start with. I think many of us are average skilled writers, some are a little better, and some are worse. I think a big step is recognizing where you fall and where you're most talented.

I'm saying all this because I personally don't think a drama competition is going to be engaging or as fest-changing as some here might think. I see very few drama films because most of them fail to excite or grab me emotionally. On the other hand, most of the best films I've ever seen are drama-based. The key is to graft emotional strong stories into conceptually strong ideas.

All of the previous fests have allowed that opportunity. The opportunity existed for everyone to create something incredible but only a few films will really stand out over time. This can be applied to Hollywood as well, though a hundred films will launch on the big screen this year, only a few will find there way onto your DVD shelf and be watched 5, 10 years down the road. I don't think having a drama fest is going to revolutionize this festival and result in a bunch of great films (stories). I'm not saying I'm completely against a drama fest but I am against having it for the belief that it will generate better films that will allow us to connect more with the characters. Think of films like 'Heat', 'Last of the Mohicans' and even Terminator 2, they are grounded in story, grounded in 'drama' but executed with so much more. Those are the kinds of films/stories we need to set out to make. Concepts like ScifiFest & Herofest (my favorites) open the door to that possibility, we only need to take it.

[Weston]

...those are some really good thoughts Geoff. Your right that just making it drama will not necessarily mean better films. I think the only reason people are pushing for that is to narrow the playing field to where more people will have a chance to exceed. People who aren't great at effects, which are almost a requirement for fests like we've had the previous 4 go arounds.

How about a fest where everyone can make anything they want? The only guideline is the six minute time limit.

[TheatreGuy]

How about a fest where everyone can make anything they want? The only guideline is the six minute time limit.
Well, damn boy! That's the best idea I've heard on this thread!!! Good job, Weston.

Just about everyone would be happy!

[Neil Rowe]

..i agree that simply making the subject as broad as being a "dramatic narrative" isnt going to suddenly make people better filmmakers, but what it does do, is allow the filmmakers to choose the genre/sub-genre of thier choice, and from there, they can make the type of story that they are truley interested in. they could make a comedic drama about love, or a down in the streets and gritty crime drama, or an epic drama about a mystical land, or a space adventure , ect. a "drama" does not necissarily have to be overdramatic, or drastic in its sense of the narrative. personally, i would view a "drama" as simply having a manifested element of conflict within the storyline. and when they are in thier own realm, hopefully we will see even more compelling stories and charachters and even more thought and time going into the work and really bringing out the best of what each respective person has to offer at this time in thier filmmaking career. so while i do agree to some extent, i have to say that people generally do thier best when you give them the freedom to truely love and embrace the work they are doing.

[Kholi]

..i agree that simply making the subject as broad as being a "dramatic narrative" isnt going to suddenly make people better filmmakers, but what it does do, is allow the filmmakers to choose the genre/sub-genre of thier choice, and from there, they can make the type of story that they are truley interested in. they could make a comedic drama about love, or a down in the streets and gritty crime drama, or an epic drama about a mystical land, or a space adventure ,

Awwww you had me in mind. I feel special.

Disclaimer: Neil Rowe knows me from jack, this was a joke.

[Blaine]

Hey Kholi,

You've been plenty vocal about what you want...you going to join in this time? :evil:

[235 Studios]

I like Weston's idea. Although I think that Drama covers a wide range as well.

[Kholi]

Hey Kholi,

You've been plenty vocal about what you want...you going to join in this time? :evil:

Dude. You have no idea. Every time it comes around, something comes up.

Herofest - Dropouts the last day (Which is what I get for not paying much/at all)

Horrorfest - Better day job stuff. Sudden projects to develop products.

Nextfest - ? Let's hope a bigger project that I'm writing for gets in the way. =DDD

No seriously... I've always wanted to do a fest entry, I just get side-swiped. =\

[Blaine]

We'll see...

[Ralph Oshiro]

Plenty of D-R-A-M-A-T-I-C opportunities with . . .

ACTION/THRILLER/CRIME DRAMA

Woo hoo! I'm already starting anyway!

[Andrew Brinkhaus]

DramaFest...Its what we need, just accept it!

[LuzCruz]

wait.. the next fest is definitely a Dramafest? I'm cruising around the site and can't find official word.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

nuthin' official
all speculation at this point

[MOVIE MASTER]

comedy would be great

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

yeah I heard a funny story recently ...

[Brandon Rice]

hm. me too.... hehe

[Mark Harris]

Did one of my posts get deleted?

[Kholi]

Yeah. They made it go byebye

[Mark Harris]

lame

[MOVIE MASTER]

me 3

[FiddlerMD]

i feel like i'm way out of my league here .. i got waaaay less experience than any of you guys when it comes to just about every aspect of film making, but i really would love to give a go at a fest type entry .. if anything, just to gain experience.. and maybe it's the inexperience talking but i'd love to do some comedy :)

[Kyle Stebbins]

hey fiddler, i've only participated in one fest, but it was indeed a great experience! i would HIGHLY recommend it!!! what do you shoot with dvx or hvx?
-kyle

[Ralph Oshiro]

CrimeFest! Woo hoo!

[Ralph Oshiro]

http://www.24framefilms.com/METRO/CODE2-2.jpg

Cops-in-Bikinis Fest! Woo hoo!

[Kyle Stebbins]

hahahahahahaha! - i love the cop lights you added on the the banner, rez... i love love love it!!! (and im all for bikini cop!!!)

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

i feel like i'm way out of my league here .. i got waaaay less experience than any of you guys when it comes to just about every aspect of film making, but i really would love to give a go at a fest type entry .. if anything, just to gain experience.. and maybe it's the inexperience talking but i'd love to do some comedy :) That's the spirit man! Biggest thing is get out there and do something and get some feedback.

I'd only done a 72 hour film fest and had my camera only a month when I entered my first DVXuser Fest last October.

And lots of guys have some kind of experience here, but being technically savvy does not necessiarily a good filmmaker make.

[Kyle Stebbins]

I'd only done a 72 hour film fest and had my camera only a month when I entered my first DVXuser Fest last October.

And he's already placed first!!!! :)
-Kyle

[Jason Ramsey]

...but being technically savvy does not necessiarily a good filmmaker make.

A little bit of hairy and scary stuff coming out there Jack?

Jason

[FiddlerMD]

hey fiddler, i've only participated in one fest, but it was indeed a great experience! i would HIGHLY recommend it!!! what do you shoot with dvx or hvx?
-kyle
I'm shooting w/ a DVX .. and so far i've done only silent type movies (but they WERE funny.. so hence my vote for comedy)

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

A little bit of hairy and scary stuff coming out there Jack?

Jason Hah! I just can't type and drink embalming fluid at the same time. I mean who can ... really?

[Glideshot]

And he's already placed first!!!! :)
-Kyle

Twice now I believe!:thumbup:

[Kyle Stebbins]

Brilliant!!

[Ted Arabian]

Seriously.... the next fest?

[Jarred Land]

next fest is all about the story.

Human Drama.

Figure out what that means.

[krish]

so that could mean Suspense/Thriller/DRAMA as long as it has a good story and lots of emotions correct?

[Kyle Stebbins]

sweet! good to hear of the next fest!!!!

[Blaine]

Human Drama...that leaves it pretty wide open to interpretation. We should have quite a variety this time. :thumbsup:

It'll also give some "story" people an opportunity to show what they can do...

[Ben Sliker]

dammnit, i had a great dog drama already written too...

sweet. time to get cracking on a new screenplay!

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

next fest is all about the story.

Human Drama.

Figure out what that means.
Damnit, I was already halfway through my arachnid drama script! :cheesy:

[thartley]

Thanks Jarred! :2vrolijk_08:

My heart rate just went up!

[SilverWolf]

Sweet I'm getting in on this one.

Of course that's what I said for all of them

[Ted Arabian]

Thanks Jarred!!! Great news!!!

[Weston]

that is great news. So...it must just include humans then?

[Inexistence]

woohoo! I hope I can get my 35adapt workin' in the next few weeks!!

[GenJerDan]

Human Drama.

That's means people.

Guess I'm sitting this one out, too.

:)

[Blaine]

Human Drama.

That's means people.

Guess I'm sitting this one out, too.

:)It could be "person"...just one...:)

[Ralph Oshiro]

Human Drama.WOO HOO!!! The crowd (I think) goes wild! All I need is some humans, and like, some drama! Woo hoo! I was actually thinking of trying to shoot something REAL dramatic this time around anyway!

[VersuS]

POOPOOING A!!!!!!!!!!!! Story is READY!!!
need actors though!!! AMAZING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Darkline]

dam, i had a drama ready to go, but its focus wasn't on humans!!!!

tho humans are in it as background characters...

DOH!!!!!

[thartley]

Yeah, I need someone to read my script for feedback, a DP who knows lighting, and actors. But hey, I'm all over craft services! :beer:

[Ki-Ki]

Can anybody actually define human drama?
Is it like, a situation thats dramatic...or...is it just a "Drama" fest including humans...or.. >_<

Maybe ill be able to work it out when i get some more sleep.

[Blaine]

Can anybody actually define human drama?
Is it like, a situation thats dramatic...or...is it just a "Drama" fest including humans...or.. >_<

That's part of the challenge:

Human Drama.

Figure out what that means.

[Charli]

Human drama sounds like a genre most people will be able to do. That should
be an interesting contest.

[Ki-Ki]

Stupid google comes out with a stupid band called stupid "Human Drama" what sort of stupid band would call themselves stupid Human Drama, stupid band and there stupid names with there stupid google hits.

[Jarred Land]

Stupid google comes out with a stupid band called stupid "Human Drama" what sort of stupid band would call themselves stupid Human Drama, stupid band and there stupid names with there stupid google hits.

that my friend.. that there deep within the confines of your post...the demand for fulfillment, your undying passionate quest for accurate google results and the contemplation of meaningless artistic naming rights of musicians, is an example of human drama.

that wasnt so hard was it :)

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

whoa ... wow ...

[Ted Arabian]

Awesome... When Jarred speaks, I listen! That was great.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

that my friend.. that there deep within the confines of your post...the demand for fulfillment, your undying passionate quest for accurate google results and the contemplation of meaningless artistic naming rights of musicians, is an example of human drama.

that wasnt so hard was it :)

Awesome... When Jarred speaks, I listen! That was great.
it's sounds even cooler if you know that Jarred's regular speaking voice sounds EXACTLY like Brando in Apocalypse Now. (no kidding) Reread it with that voice in your head.

[Ted Arabian]

Thanks Jack! I just did that and you're right... it was even cooler!!!

[Mattykins]

Awsome, I have a plot synopsis and the beginnings of a script (on my whiteboard) for something like this, now I just need to get the rest of the money for a DVX and I am good to go!

[Ted Arabian]

Maybe Jack has one for sale!!! :)

Good Luck on working the saving account... that will be a great day for you! I hope that it comes soon.

Ted

[Ki-Ki]

that my friend.. that there deep within the confines of your post...the demand for fulfillment, your undying passionate quest for accurate google results and the contemplation of meaningless artistic naming rights of musicians, is an example of human drama.

that wasnt so hard was it :)


Man, If i werent confused and needed a drink before. I sure do now.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Maybe Jack has one for sale!!! :)...
Maybe I got a "lucky" one for sale.

[Ted Arabian]

Maybe I got a "lucky" one for sale.
Damn, I would buy some of that luck... though I don't believe thay you can actually buy luck!

[thartley]

Damn, I would buy some of that luck... though I don't believe thay you can actually buy luck!


Naw, its "Cant buy me love".....Luck is fair game on the auction block of life.

[DVXUSERnews]

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=748245#post748245

[Brandon Rice]

next fest is all about the story.

Human Drama.

Figure out what that means.

Excellent, looking forward to it Jarred. Thanks!

[Brandon Rice]

Wellp, I just started working on finishing up my script! :)

[Mike McNeese]

Whooohoooo....game on...

I'm in.

[Jason Ramsey]

Woo Doggieee. I am in. It's gonna be raw, cause I don't know how to use my equipment, but I am definitely looking forward to being a part of a DVXUser Fest. Epecially a Drama Fest. Woooo!

Thanks,
Jason

[Michael_Petro]

So technically can you start on your script yet or do you have to wait for the official announcement?

[Ted Arabian]

Just a guess, Michael but I would say that you can work on your script at any time. Now that you know the genre, you can go to town. I don't think it is anything like a 48 hour film fest where you have a "starting gun" to begin the project.

[Ki-Ki]

First time at entering a DVX Fest here and such, but erm. Could i say make a Drama Fest piece. But somehow have action in it? Or does it have to be 100% one genre? If you get what im saying...
Cheers

[Brandon Rice]

dude, action is dramatic right? lol. it's totally in.

[Mike McNeese]

Ki-Ki...Mine is gonna kinda be a mix of three genres, and I'm completely comfortable entering it into a DramaFest cuz the story is right in line with the them/genre. So, really, I guess it depends on the story that you're going with.

[Ki-Ki]

The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 4 characters.

[insanityfw]

Man, I hope I can get in on this one.

I just finally got the rough edit together on the Horrofest short that I obviously missed the deadline with.

Wish me luck.

[Ted Arabian]

Good Luck!!! :)

[insanityfw]

Good Luck!!! :)

Thanks. I'm looking forward to your next project.