View Full Version : UK retailed dumping drive
www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/171211/art/memup/drive-iii-100-gb-2-5-usb.html
found this drive, looks pretty good for field dumping, anybody treid or using similar ?
Not sure if the usb port is in/out ??
cheers
-matt
Barry_Green
10-12-2006, 09:58 AM
I doubt that would work. The P2 cards won't fit in it, and it doesn't appear to offer USB-On-The-Go functionality (or, at least, I didn't see in the description where it said anything about having that).
I Know it won't take a P2 card but was hoping it might work for 'host' mode, dumping from the camera.
If using a usb device for host mode does it have to have usb on-the-go ?
I was looking at the HVX instructions but it only mentions firewire in regards to host mode.
Anyhows i'm looking for a battery powered hard drive for host mode dumping if anybody has a recomendation ?
cheers
Barry_Green
10-12-2006, 11:33 AM
Right -- the HVX can only do host mode in firewire. In USB it can only be a device.
Which is why the USB drive has to have its own host mode (which is what's called "on the go".)
If you want a battery-powered hard drive for host mode offloading... well, join the crowd. We're all looking for that! :) There are practically no firewire battery-powered drives out there. There are plentiful USB on-the-go drive enclosures, but USB-OTG appears to be about half as fast as firewire host offloading.
can anybody point me the way of a cheap usb OTG drive in the uk perhaps ?
Is the workflow the same with OTG as it would be with firewire ?
-cheers
Nathan Beaman
10-12-2006, 09:27 PM
Right -- the HVX can only do host mode in firewire. In USB it can only be a device.
Which is why the USB drive has to have its own host mode (which is what's called "on the go".)
If you want a battery-powered hard drive for host mode offloading... well, join the crowd. We're all looking for that! :) There are practically no firewire battery-powered drives out there. There are plentiful USB on-the-go drive enclosures, but USB-OTG appears to be about half as fast as firewire host offloading.
I have the FIREWIRE solution!!!! I've been doing many benchmark tests and it is so much more reliable and faster than a P2 Store. I technical coordinated a test production with the HVX for ESPN. We used & VAXes and had 3 P2 Stores. The P2 Stores were horrendus. We had many issues with the footage becoming corrupted ( thank god for back ups). We also had a new P2 Store malfunction to the point of being non-field servicable. They are also very sensitive to vibration, which makes these field recorders useless as field recorders. The most disappointing thing of all is the "dumping" speed. P2 Stores are slow at transferring data from the card and just as slow moving it to a mac over the usb 2 bus. It ends up taking much longer than realtime to essentially "dump" this footage twice - even longer than digitizing in the first place and at this point you still need to import it into your NLE.
I'm putting together a small article on this firewire solution now. I'll post it on DVXUser -
let me know if you're interested
Barry_Green
10-12-2006, 09:59 PM
Any corruption issues you encountered were due to using it with the Mac, not the P2 Store by itself. I would be shocked to hear that any frame of footage on the P2 Stores was corrupt; in the 10 months the HVX has been out I don't think anyone on the PC has ever reported an issue. But there are known issues with importing on the Mac; the important thing to realize is that YOUR FOOTAGE IS GOOD, it's the Mac import which is the point of issue. Apparently you can increase the probability of successful importing by using a "disk image".
Either Apple or Panasonic has to get to the bottom of this and figure out why it happens and fix it. But the first step is acknowledging where the problem is, and it's in the Mac import stage. It's not in the original footage, it's not on the P2 Store, and it's not in the PC import stage, and it's not in FCP. It's in the Mac OS level, either MacOS itself or the driver that connects to the card or P2 Store. Somewhere in there there's a bug.
I'm putting together a small article on this firewire solution now. I'll post it on DVXUser -
let me know if you're interested
Yes i'd be very interested in that solution ASAP !
Also I understand that their may be a problem with mac importing from P2 store but what the hell are pana thinking using USB in the first place ?
Also pana arn't coming off as a very mac friendly company or is it vice versa i don't know but dam it sort it out please.
The past present and future is and will always be....... mac.