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doublearon727
09-23-2006, 07:58 PM
In my screenplay someone accidently gets hit by an oncoming vehicle. And I have no idea how to shoot that correctly.

I'm blowing my brains out here. A lot of student flimmakers have been capable of pulling it off. For example the short film, "Tangent", (which you can find on apple's student gallery) where a drug addict's girlfriend gets hit by an oncoming car during an arguement. It looks so real and they boast that the whole film was shot in iMovie! OH MY GOD!!

Is there anyone out there in the world that can show me how to film someone getting hit by a car (in a safe way. lol). Please I beg of you!

Jack_Felis
09-23-2006, 08:19 PM
I would imagine the shot would be done in an NLE with multiple timelines (ie. guy by himself, girl by herself, girl dummy getting hit by car) and then you would play with the transparencies of each shot. How someone could do that in iMovie, I have no idea.

Just FYI, this is probably more suited to the Special Effects/Stunts forum, your question has nothing to do with your camera choice, so I wouldn't be surprised if you find this thread has been moved.

Mathew Knight
09-23-2006, 09:18 PM
In my screenplay someone accidently gets hit by an oncoming vehicle. And I have no idea how to shoot that correctly.

I'm blowing my brains out here. A lot of student flimmakers have been capable of pulling it off. For example the short film, "Tangent", (which you can find on apple's student gallery) where a drug addict's girlfriend gets hit by an oncoming car during an arguement. It looks so real and they boast that the whole film was shot in iMovie! OH MY GOD!!

Is there anyone out there in the world that can show me how to film someone getting hit by a car (in a safe way. lol). Please I beg of you!
For a short file I worked on we shot with the real actor up to a moment before the car hits the person. You use a long lens to shoot the car from front on, with actor in front. Have the actor spin around or something. The car can be quite far from the actor but on a long lens they look really close.
Then we cut to a side on shot with a dummy (same wardrobe and wig held up by hanging wire) getting hit by the car. The final result was suprisingly good.

Justin Kuhn
09-23-2006, 10:48 PM
You could rotoscope it like this guy... (http://www.snodart.com/clips.php)check out that car hit.

markcheng
09-23-2006, 11:15 PM
lol. that's the obligatory car hit that you gotta do when you first get after effects. I was just about to post mine (http://www.itzfuct.com/video/ouchie.wmv)

dvx_yaaaaaay
10-07-2006, 09:29 AM
how is you owning an HVX relevant?

dlang
10-07-2006, 04:42 PM
how is you owning an HVX relevant?


a guy with a name like dvx yaaaay should know. It's not relevant he's just chosing suttle ways to share with the world he's an hvx owner. Maybe he should change his name to hvx yaaaay:laugh:

Mark Johnson
10-09-2006, 08:34 AM
If you are still in need of info you can PM me. We do pedestrian strikes for forensic cases quite often. I can help you out probably.

dvx_yaaaaaay
10-09-2006, 10:37 AM
hahah touchée

Bogdan
10-09-2006, 02:04 PM
I agree with Jack. If you need to show the scene from the side, shot everything separately (car, actor, apples, oranges and whatever you need there) on location, if possible in stable weather to get consistent lighting.
Then you composite everything together using masks in After Effects or other compositing program. It will take time but with smart editing it will look like Hollywood flick.

-zach-
10-09-2006, 09:36 PM
For some reason, my post didn't register before. If I were you, I would go with Mark Johnson (who changed his name from vislaw?! where have i been?) because he has done some great effects on Smuggler's Ransom and more recently Jack Daniel Stanley's Rekindled.

David Jimerson
10-09-2006, 10:46 PM
You can also take advantage of a long lens from the side. Set it up correctly, and it will appear that the actor is standing in front of the car when he's actually to the side.

hawaj
10-30-2006, 05:57 PM
... I remeber Meet Joe Black flick with kinda shocking car hit

Neil Rowe
10-30-2006, 06:44 PM
aside from using a long lense to compress the percieved spacial relationship between the car and the person being hit as previously suggested, i think that alot of what you should be looking to do is along the lines of the shot sequence, and the edit of the scene. its one thing if you want to show them being hit in one constant shot where your really going to have to come pretty close to actually hitting them to have it look any good, and its another to do as almost every major film does, and simply think about using a shot sequence that allows you to cut and edit around the actual hit, and focus on the audiences PERCEPTION of a car hit without actually seeing it.

IE: you see the car come close.. David Jimmersons metion of the technique involving using a long lense would be great for this from the side if its a side shot (and can be done from the front as well of course). then right when the hit would have occured if the person was actually in front of the car, you cut to a shot of them flying off the hood, or a shot through the windshield showing them flying over it. or into it, or cut to something away from the hit where you see someones reaction, or you see blood hit the windshield ior something.. anyway.. suggestion given. alot of major films use the shot sequence and editing along with SFX and such to work around having to actually hit someone with a car (or hit the ground from a high fall of various other things that are really hard to make look real without someone getting hurt), and the audience often percieves much worse than if you had actually tried to somehow show it happening in reality using some prop or CPU generated FX but without edits.