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Matt Sconce

09-20-2006, 05:21 PM

This short is going to be a shot of adrenaline.

Any screen grabs would spoil the watching experience.

Minimal in lenght (only 2 minutes), on characters and locations, but filled with images and sound that will make you uncomfortable for the rest of your life.

It's a one cool, sick little film...

hmmmm..I might sit this one out. I like a good story but not simply shock and gross out stuff. Good luck though. :thumbup: I hope you get the reactions you are looking for.

n8ture

09-20-2006, 05:25 PM

filled with images and sound that will make you uncomfortable for the rest of your life.

Well NOW I know what happened to my home sex tape! :)

Hey, I want that back when you're done!

SBT7000

09-20-2006, 07:13 PM

Can a good story be administered in under 5 mintues?

conrad_johnson

09-20-2006, 10:20 PM

Can a good story be administered in under 5 mintues?
Absolutely!:beer:

Lingothree

09-21-2006, 05:41 PM

Can a good story be administered in under 5 mintues?

My good story will be administered in 3.5.

Brandon Rice

09-21-2006, 05:42 PM

My good story will be administered in 3.5.

mine in 2.5 :):):)

SBT7000

09-21-2006, 07:25 PM

well good luck with all those excellent mini stories. I hope there isn't too much attempting to be told in such a short time. Nor do I hope the stories are being taken too seriously.

Jaime V

09-21-2006, 08:35 PM

Hmmm, did you do the video in the Ring as well? That was fairly disturbing.

Good luck, we're all intrigued!

Plissken

09-22-2006, 12:30 AM

Well...you can say that because it isn't structured as a conventiaonal film. It looks experimental. And what is most important, it is not boring at all, and it is very, very interesting, fresh and shocking.

The film is about a young creature that is to young to die...but it dies anyway, in most disgusting and shocking way you'll see on this fest.

I am sory I won't be able to show some other shorts films, because they are longer than six mins. But if I finish something in the next few day, I will post that to. As a matter of fact, I am forking on something at the moment.

But if i don't suceed to submit something new, I hope, and know that you will enjoy Flesh. It echoes a little from Kenneth Anger, Richard Kern and Nick Zedd. It's not that I was influenced by them, but the film resembles a little of their work in the way of theme, time, and tehnical execution.

it's purpose is not to win, but to be seen.

The purpose of Flesh is to be consumed.

Jack Daniel Stanley

09-22-2006, 01:06 AM

... The film is about a young creature that is to young to die...but it dies anyway, in most disgusting and shocking way you'll see on this fest ...

is it a slug :cheesy:

Mark Harris

09-22-2006, 05:29 AM

The film is about a young creature that is to young to die...

Hey, it IS MOVIE MASTER!!!!

hvxabuser

09-22-2006, 08:24 AM

hmm. no grabs huh

SBT7000

09-22-2006, 08:46 PM

Whoa whoa whoa, did I understand that correctly? This dude made the video played in The Ring? No mofoin' way!

Jaime V

09-22-2006, 10:30 PM

Whoa whoa whoa, did I understand that correctly? This dude made the video played in The Ring? No mofoin' way!
I think you misunderstood. Plissken said earlier:

but filled with images and sound that will make you uncomfortable for the rest of your life.
and it made me think of that video. My remark was a little tongue-in-cheek. But I expect something like this video from his statement.

MOVIE MASTER

09-22-2006, 11:23 PM

Hahaha! My Demon Wings AlmosT Fell Off
The Seventh Hell Is Still Laghing! 666

Plissken

10-01-2006, 11:56 AM

I am back, just to remeber you, where to look if you want unforgettable morbid experience.

luster

10-04-2006, 10:59 PM

i'm ready to be disturbed.

Plissken

10-04-2006, 11:06 PM

I am glad to hear that.

Enjoy!

cinealma

10-05-2006, 02:27 PM

Just finished watching this one. I really didn't get it. I'm all for experminental films, but this one left me a little dry. I like the concept, but it felt more like I was watching some ephemeral animal science film from the 50's.

I can see what you were trying to do. For what it was, I think less than a minute would have been enough. I think I did just learn how to prep a meal, though.

Some people will be shocked, especially those who are sensitive to this type of thing.

John G.

Dario Nieva

10-05-2006, 02:52 PM

The purpose of Flesh is to be consumed.

Awesome.

Mark Harris

10-05-2006, 02:59 PM

Well, not exactly the most disturbng experience I was promised. But then again, I've been hunting and seen more than one deer dressed.

Beat Takeshi

10-05-2006, 09:59 PM

WTF is that thing? Snuff film at its rawest!

Kholi

10-05-2006, 10:44 PM

Man. I can't even write an entire review here.

I dunno wtf that was about but I died laughing. I had to skip beyond the rest of the animal mutilation, but the baby sounds in the background made me crack the hell up.

What was up with this?

MOVIE MASTER

10-05-2006, 11:02 PM

no freakin comment! now that is sick!

Michael_Petro

10-05-2006, 11:16 PM

WTF... that is all..... maybe thats what you wanted I dont know .. I mean i didnt gross out i wasn't shocked i just dont get it. maybe i'm not supposed to:)

cinealma

10-05-2006, 11:43 PM

no freakin comment! now that is sick!

Wow. It made MOVIE MASTER sick. So, that means it must be a little too "sweet" for MM. :)

John G.

TristanPR

10-05-2006, 11:58 PM

what the hell was that?

VersuS

10-06-2006, 06:20 AM

What can one say about this one....I've seen the faces of death (original as well) and this tops it....you put the right sound to match the sickness of what we were watching. If you had a wider view of the guy and he was a smily old man with his nephew going 'here Tommy, now you gut it to take out the liver and you want it to stay fresh coz its tasty' it would be fun and a TV show for cooking....but that close up that didnt get too personal with the butcher and the 'empty' background and the sound....wow....sick 200%...not really something to properly rate for this fest...but I'd love to see the impact it would make in a crowded theater when the lights turned were out.....

ps. man I dont know what lies inside your head....

Geoff_R

10-06-2006, 06:05 PM

I'd love to see this thing play at a packed church.

Blaine

10-06-2006, 06:09 PM

I watched it all the way through. Kept hoping there'd be some point...:huh:

zenbarai

10-06-2006, 06:19 PM

Wow, I think I just found my new weight loss program: Watch "Flesh" once before each meal.

Michael_Petro

10-06-2006, 06:22 PM

Wow, I think I just found my new weight loss program: Watch "Flesh" once before each meal.
yeah then watch yours... I should lose 50 pounds this week :) NERD MEAT

avatuar

10-06-2006, 09:48 PM

Dude, baby sounds to the gutting of some animal? Why?

Edgen

10-06-2006, 10:14 PM

Hurmm.

I wonder about some people. To me, this was a documentary film you shot probably not too long ago with a butcher buddy of yours. Then, when horrorfest popped up, you thought it would be fun to mix something gross with something innocent.

Well.. It worked.

Its like all the goth people i know who paint their nails black, wear black, and live the dark life just to be 'different' when in reality.. they are just trying to be like everyone else. This film is trying to push the envelop.

I'm sure everyone else appreciates you entering the fest.

/j

wesley

10-07-2006, 11:15 AM

haha worst entry by far, but it was a joke anyways right ?

MOVIE MASTER

10-07-2006, 12:26 PM

You Sicko!

khmuse

10-07-2006, 07:17 PM

This is the only film that I felt required an immediate deletion followqed by a defragmentation to be certain that it was truly gone forever. If it wasn't a new 750 GB drive, I probably would have pulled it and tossed it into the bin as well.

Matt Sconce

10-07-2006, 07:21 PM

I did not watch this based on the possibility of spontaneous pukage. I congratulate you if that is what you are going for. I can't handle it.

Gord.T

10-08-2006, 12:37 PM

When I finished watching this I didn't get it. Then, within a second...oh, wait...
is this about what I think it is? If it is, haha, pretty warped man. I certainly wasn't offended. Horror is different to many. Definitily got a respnse. Way to take a risk.

TheatreGuy

10-08-2006, 01:10 PM

Man, Plissken.... that is one sick movie. OMG!

I have to tell you, I spent more time watching the contols on the play (happy to see it booking right along!) and couldn't wait for this finish!!!

The baby crying during all of this just made it the more creepy.

I think that you accomplished what you set out to do. (lord, I hope so!)

Nice job for what it is... not my cup of tea!

Ted

Lake Films

10-08-2006, 01:12 PM

I suddenly have the urge to eat more vegetables!

Kyle Stebbins

10-08-2006, 01:13 PM

I have to tell you, I spent more time watching the contols on the play (happy to see it booking right along!) and couldn't wait for this finish!!!

So true.

Good film... I wonder where you found a pig with such talent?

Oh yeah, and I wanted to puke :beer:

TheatreGuy

10-08-2006, 01:18 PM

"wanted to puke!" I did!!! :grin:

VersuS

10-08-2006, 01:22 PM

I like cinema of the extreme. I cant watch it all day but I am a man of collecting experiences in general so even If someone had told me about the content I would still watch it.
However I cant watch it again as I cant watch faces of death a second time.
I dont judge though.
Some people here seem to be so judgemental. This is not the work of the devil as some tried to make it appear in their comments. And if we act like that with any kind of art even though we dont agree that its art then we are racists pure and simple.
The guy send this publicly and if he did it intentionally to shock in the most twisted way, let him be judged by himself and his personal story in life. We can judge in terms of film making, we can judge using our personal taste, but we are not allowed to denounce people. And in the end, he didnt make something provocative for anyone, race, religion, sex....so PEACE!

JoshuaNitschke

10-09-2006, 12:14 AM

Hmmmm.

I'm still gonna have my steak tomorrow.

Ralph Oshiro

10-09-2006, 12:19 AM

Stupid me. I was actually eating a steak when I started up "Flesh" on my computer.

vidled

10-09-2006, 06:28 AM

Plissken, is the message of this video supposed to be "anti-abortion"?

Plissken

10-09-2006, 06:49 AM

Inexistence

10-09-2006, 08:52 AM

VersuS was right on target with post #57. I'm not sure I can add anything here.

Would it offend anyone to say I want more?

Gord.T

10-09-2006, 08:58 AM

Barf mixed with fecis is uncomfortable and disgusting. But I don't see the connection from that to horror. I think the type of horror we are referring to is within the realms of entertainment as oppesed to say the horror of the twin towers or perhaps beheadings. I think there is a line between horror and disturbing images, not that yours was either. But if it is to invoke debate, I say let's rock. -gordo

Actually, I think i will watch some of the other clips instead.

VersuS

10-09-2006, 10:37 AM

If someone posted a movie about a guy watching the news about the victims in iraq, the disfigured victims, the mutilated victims of the bombings, or just showed Ground Zero with a plane going by in the far distance and a girl holding her mother's hand pointing up....these two are quite horrifying in a sense...

Horror is not only in the BOO people! Get it over with! If we are to become film makers or try and bring something in film making in our short lives on this planet, then we have to act like THINKING ARTISTS and people who QUESTION everything just to find the meaning. If we take Horror as it is portrayed in Helloween, Shining, Ringu and Showgirls, then we are NO GOOD FILMMAKERS!

I am not saying that everybody should make a movie like Flesh or something that goes about social horrors and life out there....but dont act like its not there. Stop hiding behind your finger (some of you).

You name someone provocativ and you cast the first stone...oh my....arent you the tolerants of this world...

Jaime V

10-09-2006, 11:19 AM

I didn't really get this short. I'm not sure what the point or message was.

It did make me think about what I wanted to get from the butcher for dinner the next day though.

Were you just trying to gross people out? I can see how it would gross some people out I guess.

cinealma

10-09-2006, 11:23 AM

Filmmaking is as subjective an artform as anything else. And I think it's just how you chose to approach something as ambiguous as "Horror" for a topic of artistic expression. Some people might find a 6 minute static take of a plate of macaroni and cheese horror (I know my 9-year-old would!). A more black and white take on this topic in regards to HorrorFest is that some people chose to entertain with horror and other chose to repulse. AND THERE WHERE A WHOLE LOT IN BETWEEN.

Hey, the studios and the independents have been going on about this for years. Nothing really new about a discussion like this.

And I am sure that the current presidential administration would LOVE this film. :cheesy:

John G.

jpbankesmercer

10-09-2006, 04:37 PM

Plissken.

I get where your comming from. I've seen stuff. But I think you missed a trick, if you really wanted to make an impact you should have killed a live one! Otherwise it's just a cheap shot/ gimmick.

J.P.

-zach-

10-09-2006, 07:15 PM

Well...you can say that because it isn't structured as a conventiaonal film. It looks experimental. And what is most important, it is not boring at all, and it is very, very interesting, fresh and shocking...

...The film is about a young creature that is to young to die...but it dies anyway, in most disgusting and shocking way you'll see on this fest...

...The purpose of Flesh is to be consumed.

I'm sorry, but I didn't find it interesting. I didn't find it shocking. I definitely didn't find it good. I did find it ameteur, bad, and stupid. It was a low quality film that had no redeemable aspects. If you wanted me to think it was a baby, I did, but, was there a point? Not really. Just shots of you cutting up a dead animal. Talent? No. The colors weren't even nice. Definitely the worst film in Horrorfest, maybe the worst film ever.

Otherwise, I applaud you for trying. Keep working at it, keep making films. I appreciate that you are trying to make a statement, I just didn't think that I would dislike the statement so much.

Plissken

10-09-2006, 07:46 PM

Good for you. I think your parents are proud of your wisdom.

Make a film. Show us how to do it.

Aaron Marshall

10-10-2006, 12:10 AM

VersuS

10-10-2006, 12:40 AM

Attempted shock aside, this film was terrible because it had no freaking story. It had poorly designed sounds over a guy butchering a small animal. I think the message that screamed at me was a profound disrespect.

The very least you could have done was make the scene far smaller and explain yourself a little. Why is this character engaging in such acts? What is the purpose? You didn't explore anything outside of the action.

Sorry to say this Noct coz i ve read most of your reviews and you are a person who understands movies and moviemaking but here you seem like someone who has not explored fully the world of films. PLEASE I mean no disrespect and I wait to be corrected. What I m saying is that I find it strange to think that a film/movie/flick whatever, needs to have a story in the form you expect. Why should he explore outside of the action? why should he give it to us plain and simple? should all movies come in a package with a script and details pointing to the right directions? a movie or a film is what you make out of it and the ability to comprehend way beyond the moving frames is your own deal, its like fighting with your inner demons the process of understanding a movie that goes beyone 'hero A kills villain B and saves blondie X'
Watch The Tenant for example by Polanski....is it all so clear ? or is it the fact that the film is not so gorish that you accept it as a film? I ve see TONS of films and art video like Flesh as i said before and they may not have the standard structure of what we're accustomed but that dont make them NON-FILMS...

My opinion again AND NO DISRESPECT!

Ralph Oshiro

10-10-2006, 04:51 AM

This film is trying to push the envelope. I'm sure everyone else appreciates you entering the fest.I think if you piss a few people off, or offend some, or have someone call your work "disgusting" or "disrespectful" I think that's a damn good thing. That's what art is supposed to do. I could photograph puppy dogs and flowers all day, and someday, I actually MIGHT. But I LOVE pushing the envelope. I LOVE taking risks. I LOVE making people think, "Whoa! What the f##k was THAT!" Other than that, I think you're one sick motherf####r. Welcome to the club!

VersuS

10-10-2006, 04:59 AM

Man I had to read it 3 times to understand the 'shoot puppy dogs' was with the camera...LOL!!!! LMFAO!

Ralph Oshiro

10-10-2006, 05:04 AM

It was a low quality film that had no redeemable aspects . . . was there a point?See what I mean?

The colors weren't even nice. Definitely the worst film in Horrorfest, maybe the worst film ever.See what I mean?

This is now, to me, the most provocative thread on the forum. And you've already earned a few "inverse-best of" reviews. If it were me, I'd put that quote in my sig! I mean who wouldn't be curious to see, ". . . The worst film in Horrorfest, maybe the worst film ever?"

Ralph Oshiro

10-10-2006, 05:07 AM

Man I had to read it 3 times to understand the 'shoot puppy dogs' was with the camera...LOL!!!! LMFAO!LMFAO too! Thanks for pointing that out! I edited the post make the meaning absolutely clear!

Ralph Oshiro

10-10-2006, 05:25 AM

I just rated this thread "5 stars."

insanityfw

10-10-2006, 10:56 AM

This film shows HORROR in its pure form.

The most original and shocking short film you'll ever see.

There is only one purpose of this film: to disturb you.

Mission accomplished.

VersuS

10-10-2006, 10:56 AM

and show me 10 people who accomplished their mission.....

Plissken

10-10-2006, 01:56 PM

Mission accomplished.

Amen to that.

jpbankesmercer

10-10-2006, 03:38 PM

You know it DID leave an impact on me.
So I guess it worked.

JoshuaNitschke

10-10-2006, 03:40 PM

You know it DID leave an impact on me.
So I guess it worked.
Did it?

To me, it's just a pig and that means yummy bacon and ham.

jpbankesmercer

10-10-2006, 03:44 PM

It got a response. Not meaning a great....show the wife...look at this its....
But yummy bacon and ham aside...It was....oh I don't know..Bacon @ Ham ?? :)
Just started watching yours Virum, know you hated mine but you had some nice ideas going on.
Bacon @ Ham...

arielman

10-10-2006, 06:40 PM

I watched it all the way through. Kept hoping there'd be some point...:huh:

Geeez Blaine you did better than I .
Sorry this reminds me of the guy who skinned a cat and posted it on the web as art ....
I need to say no more
Ian

conrad_johnson

10-10-2006, 07:28 PM

This film really didn't do anything for me. Maybe if I never took 10th grade physiology......maybe. I'm not sure what else to say.

hvxabuser

10-11-2006, 08:19 AM

thats just wrong...

anyway poorly lit and shot. learn some skills. always baby laughs are old.

Gord.T

10-11-2006, 10:53 AM

I just checked your 'Last Posts' thingy just to see how your viewing other peoples films to get a feel of where your at. Huh? Your not watching OUR films? Huh? Not even ONE? Not even ONE little film Plisken? Wass up wit dat?
Nuff said. Chow baby.

silvergirl

10-11-2006, 11:37 AM

Wow why is everyone so hostile?

The film is what it is. if you dont like it dont watch it. you dont have to say nast y things.

arielman

10-11-2006, 06:35 PM

No one is saying nasty things . People just can't see any value in it . he could of done a lot more with this to make it watchable . Skinning something with no story line , no nothing is pointless .
ART ? not here , a museum maybe .
We watch it or try too as it is part of this FEST and deserves watching .
I think we all made an attempt to watch this short . Some made it to the end and some did'nt .
On a positive note he did put forth a short for this contest .

Ian

Gauranga

10-11-2006, 07:35 PM

Don't give me that "you don't understand my art" BS. Shock for the sake of shock isn't art. What we have here is a piss poor video of some guy gutting an animal while listening to poorly recorded baby sounds. I "got it" and it was bad.

The only impression this left was me was thinking that this guy needs to learn how to write a story and then learn how to shoot it. Ariel is right, no value here.

jeans

10-11-2006, 08:22 PM

It was gross. I winced. Maybe that's all that was intended. I have found that I've been re-sensitized to stuff like that over the years. Not just real gore, but movie gore as well. Weird, I think, often it's the other way around. However I still don't think I'll have much trouble eating a nice juicy rare steak or pork chop.

One small thought; if the babies cries were more in sync with the cutting, it would be more effective.

It's not my thing, but I don't think it's fair to say it has no value, at least not in such a universal way. I'm a believer in the idea that if you say it's art, it's art. Even if that idea dramatically degrades the value of art for a lot of people. The meaning of the word "Art" is so vague, at least in terms of what it means to people. I can't tell you what the dictionary definition is, but I doubt a lot of people are looking it up when they proclaim that something is or isn't art.

Gauranga, I'm not intending this for you personally, even though I'm responding to points you made. I guess I just felt like this deserved defending on some level. I'm not in disagreement with the technical gripes, I just think a lot of people are overly harsh in the delivery of their comments because of this pieces content.

Lingothree

10-11-2006, 09:50 PM

Glad you are consuming Flesh.

Horror has to make an emotiaonal impact on audience. Sometimes, its a pure blast of morbid artistic ejaculation in the form of deformed, mutilated flesh.

Some of you felt uncomfortable and disgust, that is totally normal reaction.

Morbid artistic ejaculation.

Well put.

So we understand Pilssken's motivation was to produce a morbid artistic ejaculation. How can we argue with that?

luster

10-11-2006, 10:46 PM

this would have been more shocking if you would have had the baby laying on the same table as the carcass.

insanityfw

10-11-2006, 11:04 PM

and show me 10 people who accomplished their mission.....

I know I didn't. I'm still stuck in re-shoot, self-importance hell and it's getting me nowhere fast.

I was superficially disgusted but viscerally intrigued.... and still, it made my mind churn... Not something that happens very often. :)

I don't see a winning entry in this film, but in your own way (Plissken) I'm sure you've already won.

arielman

10-12-2006, 11:40 AM

this would have been more shocking if you would have had the baby laying on the same table as the carcass.

Now that would an attention getter !!!

Ian

theAlchemist

10-12-2006, 03:13 PM

I'm confused about this one. To me it looked like a butcher doing his job. So it did absolutely nothing to me... And there is not a lot more to review in this movie.

sean90291

10-12-2006, 09:23 PM

An art film that has some of the visceral impact of horror. It was thought provoking. Can't say I didn't find some cinematic value in it, because I did. "An interesting addition to the festival," that's how I would sum it up. Shorter would have been better. I mean, there was no rule that said you had to use all 6 minutes. But hey, at least I didn't have to see yet another girl screaming while she gets stabbed with a butcher knife (snore).

Ralph Oshiro

10-13-2006, 02:51 AM

Sorry, Ariel, this is not personal, you just happened to write a convenient post on which to comment, regarding this thread in general . . .

No one is saying nasty things.No, perhaps not "nasty." But they're making jokes, and extremely condecending comments. The tone of the comments here are unlike any other on the fest.

People just can't see any value in it.That's their problem.

He could of done a lot more with this to make it watchable.Maybe that was the whole point. To make an "unwatchable" film.

ART? Not here, a museum maybe.Art isn't allowed here? Only in museums? Or is it just the kind of art that you don't find "tasteful enough" that doesn't belong here? Or is it only art that doesn't have any story or "point" that doesn't belong? [If that were the case, I'd be on pretty thin ice here myself.] Or maybe just "ugly" art? Would it be better if we only had "pretty" art, all with stories and a "point?" Maybe we should appoint a HorrorFest board to review all submissions to decide. In fact, maybe the government should monitor all future DVXUSER threads to prevent any further "unacceptable" forms of art from being submitted to all future fests to prevent this kind of thing from ever happening again.

See how ridiculous this sounds?

Again, nothing personal, it's just that I think your post happens to reflect a surprising number of the reactions to this film, and this thread. And frankly you all are starting scare me. I thought we were all open-minded, creative people here. Don't you see what you all are endorsing by making these kinds of statements? Expressing one's opinion is one thing, but making declaratory statements which explicitly de-value one kind of "art" over another kind of art--a more "watchable" kind of art, is a really scary thought to me.

VersuS

10-13-2006, 03:04 AM

Rezfactor I Love You! You Are In My Mind!!!

Ralph Oshiro

10-13-2006, 03:43 AM

By the way . . . am I the only one that thinks that "Flesh" is one of the creepiest things they've seen in HorrorFest?

VersuS

10-13-2006, 03:47 AM

Nope. I've been a big support for Flesh since the beginning. However I have seen it as a disturbing and artistic statement. In my ballot it didnt do good because well, its not the purpose or how I rate it in a creative manner that counted but the default categories I had to rate....

TheatreGuy

10-13-2006, 09:45 AM

Hey Plissken, Congratulations on you film... you really grossed me out! :)

Not my film but art is art!

Good luck to you!

Ted

jpbankesmercer

10-13-2006, 09:55 AM

Best of luck pig boy!

arielman

10-13-2006, 10:50 AM

Rezfactor (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=6265).....No problem ,
I still stand by my comment that this should be in a Museum .
Then I would have a different view on this .
AS for value I and others do not but some do as Yourself .
It is thru the eyes of DVX members that view this short that they state their opinion on whether this is ART or NOT, just as they have discussed here in this thread . To ban a short because you or I believe it has no Value/art is WRONG!!!!..I do not believe in CENSORSHIP of any kind .

Maybe I should of said it is un watchable ( for me ) because it had no entertainment value unlike the other shorts here which did.
If he had put a baby beside the meat as has been suggested , then this would of been a different short altogether . Something to make your imagination work. Just my thoughts.

I am open minded .Since the Zombie fest started I can find something positive in a bad short . For example ..In "Charlie Bags an Alien" a lot of members thought this was really bad .BUT I loved it , it made laugh pretty hard .
Just as you found something positive in "FLESH" .

In the end I guess I should of said Thru my eyes I see this as non Art and a short with no value .
Sorry Rezfactor (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/member.php?u=6265).
I wish for a moment I could see thru your eyes while viewing this short .
I then may have a different take on this .
Ian

Slimothy

10-13-2006, 12:15 PM

I think this would have been better with some good sound fx. It seems like you didn't put much effort into grossing people out besides butchering the animal (what animal was that anyways?) I think with some better sound fx it would have really made me cringe. I can't even watch the ER shows, but I was able to sit through this. If the sounds were more stimulating and realistic I'm sure I would have been pretty grossed out. I didn't really enjoy it, but good job on the "idea."

Tim.

mentatDUKE

10-13-2006, 10:29 PM

This was a really odd one. Pretty gross. We were all wondering what the animal was. The sounds were pretty disturbing. The colors were vivid. It was well-shot documentary style.

I wish the subject matter had more substance. It kind of drags and goes on a while once your realize what the "gimmick" is. A bit repetetive too. Maybe this should have been a small scene in a larger, more clever short. Shock works best with context.

Gave us something to talk about. Interesting.... I think....

vidled

10-14-2006, 05:47 AM

Animal: That was a rabbit or hare?

Norm Sanders

10-14-2006, 04:20 PM

Just finally getting the time to copy the notes I compiled in a Word doc while watching the shorts:

What the hell was this? Just some guy butchering a rabbit or other small animal to the crying sounds of a baby? Sure, it was gruesome in spots, but no more than a typical butcher shop would be. I’m assuming this was either one of those artistic endeavors, like nailing a 10 speed bicycle wheel to a stool & calling it art, or was a pseudo message against meat eaters made by a vegetarian or vegan? Ranked the lowest of any in many categories (score, script, acting, etc…)