Maliboo - Horrorfest Entry

[Tom Marshall]

Fresh out of an upper class Malibu high school, three friends decide to take their yearly Halloween prank to the next level. So they decide to pull the "ultimate prank" on their ex-gym coach by telling him that his wife died on a plane trip to New York. Big mistake...

Here's where we're at so far:
9/9 - Had our casting session. We had about 30 people show up and had a few great actors from the group.

We had about 400 submit for the role in total. I had to reply to about 120 people and it was a bit overwhelming to answer all the emails!

UPDATE!!
Here are the actors that we've chosen...

Matt:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/17011/1158478617.jpg

Billy:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/17011/1158478725.jpg

Joe:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/17011/1158479243.jpg

Kelly:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/17011/1158479098.jpg

Jack:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/17011/1158478838.jpg


We'll be filming Saturday, October 14th and 15th, for a two day shoot.

I realize that this won't make it into the contest, but we're still going to make this short! It will most likely turn out to be around 10 - 15 minutes long.

Crew:
Writer / Director: Tom Marshall (myself)
Director of Photography: Max (webdog)
Composer: James Wilson / Tom Marshall

[macintosh]

Sounds like a pretty interesting story. Good luck on the all day shoot. I'll be waiting to hear how that ended up.

[Brandon Rice]

Good luck on the shoot man! :thumbsup:

[Tom Marshall]

Sounds like a pretty interesting story. Good luck on the all day shoot. I'll be waiting to hear how that ended up.

Thanks! I'll definitely keep this thread updated as things happen... :)

[Tom Marshall]

Good luck on the shoot man! :thumbsup:
Thanks man! Yours as well... :beer:

[Mark Harris]

cool, good luck.

[Max R. Wilson]

yea im super excited and cant wait to start shooting.

When im not so tired ill get a list of our budget and other info..

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I don't know what it says above, my baby typed it. I guess it is good luck.

[Tom Marshall]

cool, good luck.
Thanks man! Hope yours goes well too. :thumbsup:


I don't know what it says above, my baby typed it. I guess it is good luck.

LOL.. got the kid's blessing... thanks... :)

[VersuS]

good luck tommy!

[Tom Marshall]

good luck tommy!

Thanks John! Good luck on yours too... :beer:

[cinealma]

What do you have for a location/locations? You doing scenes on the beach?


John G.

[Max R. Wilson]

were still working on securing a location... But we should have one my mon - tues and we need to get insurance and a film permit (we dont want to get shutdown)

So far we have a pretty big budget...

AS of today i have spent $300+ on stuff to build a dolly, and ordered a 7" LCD monitor, and building 2 LED light panels.

We may build a crane if time allows.

Im sure this budget will grow a lot by the time shooting is done.

[Tom Marshall]

Hey John,

Yeah, what webdog said (he's our DP)...

We were going to do the opening shot driving down the PCH highway, but I'm thinking it won't happen. It would be a sweet opening shot, but logistically, not very practical.

We're trying to find a nice house as a location, since it's supposed to be in Malibu. We had one place, but it kinda fell through. :(

[Tom Marshall]

New banner!!! :)

[TheatreGuy]

were still working on securing a location... But we should have one my mon - tues and we need to get insurance and a film permit (we dont want to get shutdown)

So far we have a pretty big budget...

AS of today i have spent $300+ on stuff to build a dolly, and ordered a 7" LCD monitor, and building 2 LED light panels.

We may build a crane if time allows.

Im sure this budget will grow a lot by the time shooting is done.
Hey Tommy, let me know how those LED light panels work for you. If they are good, pass on some info of what works, what doesn't. I am not a fan of LED lights, but they do have their benefits and people seem to love them.

Good luck with all!

Ted

[Tom Marshall]

Hey Ted,

We'll definitely let you know... I'm wondering how they'll turn out myself...

We will be building a crane though. Gives me a chance to do a little MIG welding... :)

[cinealma]

...Gives me a chance to do a little MIG welding... :)

You know, seriously, that's one skill I wish I had. :thumbsup:


John G.

[Tom Marshall]

Welding is fun, man... I haven't done a lot of projects, but I have practiced a lot. One thing that I made was an electric fuel pump bracket for my 67 Mustang. I'll have to find the pics I took and let you see em.

[Tom Marshall]

I've updated the first post in this thread... added the cast headshots! :)

[TheatreGuy]

Hey Ted,

We'll definitely let you know... I'm wondering how they'll turn out myself...

We will be building a crane though. Gives me a chance to do a little MIG welding... :)
Welding.... mmmmmm..... gooood.
I plan on building a crane one of these days. Post pics!


I've updated the first post in this thread... added the cast headshots! :)
ooh! ooh! Can I take a guess at who the ex-gym coach is???

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah, we'll be posting pics in the DIY section... :thumbsup:

That guy playing the coach... holy crap, he scared the s**t out of us in the audition... we though he was going to kill US!

[TheatreGuy]

Oh! THAT'S the guy! I remember you saying that! Yeah, he does look scary!

(He doesn't read this does he? Should I change my location in my avatar? Will he find me? Now I'm scared!)

Looking forward to the DIY post! I've looked at a lot of versions and have them bookmarked on my computer if you need any. I also built a small model out of wood to test a few things. Good luck!

[TimurCivan]

you got JACK DANIEL STANLEY to play in your movie!!!!!

[Tom Marshall]

Ted,

Yeah, share some links! :)


you got JACK DANIEL STANLEY to play in your movie!!!!!
I did?? :huh:

[TimurCivan]

its a joke... the Jack guy looks like JDS. when he moseys over to this thread he will see it.... haha

[Tom Marshall]

I thought maybe that really was him and I just didn't know it!

[Tom Marshall]

UPDATE: We now have the cast commited to the project... Now we just need to find a location to shoot this thing!

[Slimothy]

Nice looking cast Tommy. Did you ever find someone to help you out w/ a location?

Tim.

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks Tim. We had a location set up, but it fell through, unfortunately. I had a couple people from here offer to help, but it didn't have the right feel. We're going to rent a cabin up at Big Bear for a couple of days though.

[Brandon Rice]

Dude, the guy you got for Jack is David Light, right? He was originally going to be in Smuggler's, but some complications came up, and he couldn't make it. Man, the world is small.

[Tom Marshall]

Yep, that's him. David Light... How did his audition go for you? I'm curious. He put on quite a show for us!

[Brandon Rice]

He didn't actually make it to the audition. We were casting him for a non-speaking role, he had the perfect look for, but plans fell through, and we had to go another direction. He seemed great on the phone, and I am looking forward to seeing him in your film.

So, you're planning on shooting those dates for sure? I bet ya I could make it :) Just to come say howdy at least.

[Tom Marshall]

That's too bad he didn't make it to the audition... I should play you his audition tape... that guy is intense!!

I've got all the cast lined up for those 2 days and I'll be calling Big Bear tomorrow to set up the filming location and permits.

I'd love to have you come by and give a hand or to visit and see David in action... :)

[Brandon Rice]

Well, I'll do my best. That Saturday is a week before I begin shooting my next short, but I'll try to make it up there, it's a bit of a drive :) Cool beans... Hey show us some BTS, like the audition tapes :):)

[Edgen]

Looking forward to seeing your film Tom! and.. of course, i'm curious to see how your adventure fairs you for getting those permits. That was one of our recent roadblocks for our shoot forcing us to postpone from Mon/Tues shoot to shooting this weekend.

Auditions are great!! You so soo many people and you find potentials in everyone even if they are not right for your particular movie. Start building that database of interesting people and one day you'll have your movie all set and cast with minimal efforts. :)

good luck!
/j

[TheatreGuy]

Ted,

Yeah, share some links! :)


Here are some links that I've bookmarked on crane, boom, jib designs. Hope they help!

http://www.jorenclark.com/whitepapers/jibarm.html
http://www.geocities.com/bobvento/jib/jib.html
http://www.filmcentre.co.uk/boom.html
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/jib/jib.html
http://homebuiltstabilizers.com/greyjibsncranes.htm

Ted

[Tom Marshall]

Well, I'll do my best. That Saturday is a week before I begin shooting my next short, but I'll try to make it up there, it's a bit of a drive :) Cool beans... Hey show us some BTS, like the audition tapes :):)

Hope you can make it! :thumbsup:

I probably will post his audition cause it was just so out there... :)

[Tom Marshall]

Looking forward to seeing your film Tom! and.. of course, i'm curious to see how your adventure fairs you for getting those permits. That was one of our recent roadblocks for our shoot forcing us to postpone from Mon/Tues shoot to shooting this weekend.

Auditions are great!! You so soo many people and you find potentials in everyone even if they are not right for your particular movie. Start building that database of interesting people and one day you'll have your movie all set and cast with minimal efforts. :)

good luck!
/j
I've been on the phone with Big Bear this morning and the lady just doesn't answer the phone... :angry:

I tried to be as professional as I possibly could during the audition and I think it went over well...

This thing is not going to be that easy to shoot because the acting has to be so believable and I'm just such a perfectionist, but we'll see... I think I'm going to wind up ticking off all the actors! But everytime I tell people that, they say no, it's good that I'm picky... :)

[Brandon Rice]

Hope you can make it! :thumbsup:

I probably will post his audition cause it was just so out there... :)

Yeah, me too....

Do it dude.

[Tom Marshall]

Here are some links that I've bookmarked on crane, boom, jib designs. Hope they help!

http://www.jorenclark.com/whitepapers/jibarm.html
http://www.geocities.com/bobvento/jib/jib.html
http://www.filmcentre.co.uk/boom.html
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/jib/jib.html
http://homebuiltstabilizers.com/greyjibsncranes.htm

Ted
Awesome... thanks Ted!!

[TheatreGuy]

Awesome... thanks Ted!!
No problem. Looking forward to what you come up with! Let me know if a particular design is the shiz!

As for your actors... It's better that they learn now that they are nothing but walking, talking pieces of furniture! At least that's what I've discovered as an actor on a set.

The true stars of film are the crew!

[Brandon Rice]

In one sense I agree... in another I completely disagree.... I'd be careful saying that about actors... as I've been in this industry I've gained a new respect for actors myself, and I highly respect their talent... I think it takes the complete package of a good crew and cast for a film.

[TheatreGuy]

Hey Brandon, I am kidding. I am an actor. I love working on both stage and film. But on film the actor as got to be patient and know their place.

I am not saying that Tommy's actors don't, I was just foolin'.

And I just couldn't help saying that because I said it on a shoot one day after feeling like I was just set dressing with lines and the crew totally cracked up. And I was the lead of the movie!

Most filmmakers would be nowhere without actors. Actors are a true breed. To go out and bare ones inner self and do it over and over again take after take. It's not easy.

Just want to clarify that I do have a complete respect for actors.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

[Brandon Rice]

Wow, I understand where you're coming from now... I apologize... I think (myself included) we can forget how valuable a good cast is, and get too caught up on the tech aspect... anyway, it's all good :)

[TheatreGuy]

Thanks. I didn't mean to sound like I was scolding or anything, I just wanted to make sure that it was clear that you knew that I was kidding.

Perhaps I should watch how I post! :)

[Brandon Rice]

Naw man, sa'll good :) I was just saying, I understand your pain.

[TheatreGuy]

We now return to our regularly scheduled program......

Maliboo!

Take it away Tom!

[Edgen]

Tom... Ya, definitely keep me posted on the permit. Hell, I'm about to say frack it and just go guerilla. THat was the great thing about living back in Kentucky. No One gave a poo what you were doing with a camera. Hell, they all just wanted to be in it so they pretty much give you everything for free. Just seeing a movie actually being made is utterly fascinating to them.

Not here. grrr.

/j

[R.L. Scott]

Good luck on the production bro, looking forward to checking it out.

[Max R. Wilson]

Tom... Ya, definitely keep me posted on the permit. Hell, I'm about to say frack it and just go guerilla. THat was the great thing about living back in Kentucky. No One gave a poo what you were doing with a camera. Hell, they all just wanted to be in it so they pretty much give you everything for free. Just seeing a movie actually being made is utterly fascinating to them.

Not here. grrr.

/j

haha yea we have tought about that...

Im currently converting my garage to a studio and we would be able to build one set in there at a time so we might end up shooting some in my garage some in my kitchen, and renting a place for the pool scene.

[Edgen]

Tom... Just got word finally back from the Ranger Service. For the permit, you can only have 10 people in your group and its $150 a day to shoot up there at 'big bear lake' legally. But, in order to secure our location, we needed that permit.

/j

[Tom Marshall]

We now return to our regularly scheduled program......

Maliboo!

Take it away Tom!

Thought we were gonna have to break that one up... :)

Yeah, I'm an actor as well. I've done a bit of stage work and I completely respect what they do... I'm just a perfectionist and want to get the best performance from the actors so that everyone looks good, cast and crew. It's a very collaborative effort. If the technical stuff is there and looks good, but the acting isn't very good, then what's the point? It's just a technical exercise at that point... I'm a director, so I really only want to concentrate on the performances and making everything as honest and believable as possible...

I'm old school, baby... Stanislavski, Chekhov, Adler, Meisner, all those guys... :thumbsup:

I'm even considering giving acting lessons!

[Tom Marshall]

Tom... Ya, definitely keep me posted on the permit. Hell, I'm about to say frack it and just go guerilla. THat was the great thing about living back in Kentucky. No One gave a poo what you were doing with a camera. Hell, they all just wanted to be in it so they pretty much give you everything for free. Just seeing a movie actually being made is utterly fascinating to them.

Not here. grrr.

/j

Yeah, no kidding... would have been easier for me to film this thing in Florida... then again, all the serious people are here in LA, so you have to kind of trade the ease in filming for that...

[Tom Marshall]

Good luck on the production bro, looking forward to checking it out.

Thanks man!!

[Tom Marshall]

Tom... Just got word finally back from the Ranger Service. For the permit, you can only have 10 people in your group and its $150 a day to shoot up there at 'big bear lake' legally. But, in order to secure our location, we needed that permit.

/j

Who did you talk to? I was told to call Inland Empire Film Commision and get everything set up through them. I called this one lady and she's supposed to send some photos of different locations they have and prices on them. I'll try and nail something down through that and then get the permit...

10 people total?? Yikes...

[TheatreGuy]

Thought we were gonna have to break that one up... :)
Kid gloves... kid gloves...


If the technical stuff is there and looks good, but the acting isn't very good, then what's the point?
Telll me about it! There are some awful movies because of BAD acting! Drives me nuts! I'z just be'n funy earlier!


I'm old school, baby... Stanislavski, Chekhov, Adler, Meisner, all those guys... :thumbsup:

I'm even considering giving acting lessons!
ROCK ON!

Now, go on up to Big Bear and make us a movie! :)

[Tom Marshall]

Now, go on up to Big Bear and make us a movie! :)

Things are starting to come together, finally! I should be getting a location within the next few days (hopefully) and the lady that actually handles the permits is very nice...

[Edgen]

Tom, ya, just sent you a PM saying now they want to charge us $550 for insurance + $150 for the permit for the day. Frak me.. it must be where we were wanting to shoot? Maybe it varies on locations?

Btw, what day are you guys shooting? I wonder if that makes a difference too?

/j

[Blaine]

So what's the deal here, Tommy? When are you shooting? Is this still going to be a post-HorrorFest movie or are you now shooting earlier?

[Tom Marshall]

Tom, ya, just sent you a PM saying now they want to charge us $550 for insurance + $150 for the permit for the day. Frak me.. it must be where we were wanting to shoot? Maybe it varies on locations?

Btw, what day are you guys shooting? I wonder if that makes a difference too?

/j

Who's charging 550 for insurance? That's a little steep. I'm sure you can find it cheaper somewhere. What company was it through?

[Tom Marshall]

So what's the deal here, Tommy? When are you shooting? Is this still going to be a post-HorrorFest movie or are you now shooting earlier?

We've moved the shoot to mid-October, so we won't make the contest... but it will be a post-Horrorfest movie... I just wish the deadline was further out for the entry. We plan to make some DVDs and hopefully try and enter a few festivals. One thing we've talked about is renting a theater with a digital projector one night and have a showing for friends and family. :)

[Blaine]

Drats!!! Gonna miss you in HorrorFest. But at least you're continuing so we can see it. :beer:

[Edgen]

Come to find out.. its the same people you are dealing with. Maybe our production just looks bigger or something and all they see are dollar signs.

WHo knows. Frack that though, I don't have $500 so we are just going guerilla. Or... we may have to scrap it all together. :(

So ya, If you talk to that lady again, try to finger a little bit more information from her and see what the deal is. The guy we are dealing with says it was the chodes before us who screwed everything up for everyone else. Maybe cause it was last minute notice or location? This just urkes me. it was up near fawnskin.. the other side of big bear (over the north shore)

/j

[TheatreGuy]

Hey Tommy, sorry you are not going to be able to pull this together in time for the festival deadline BUT BETTER TO TAKE THE TIME AND MAKE IT RIGHT!!! I know that you want to be proud of this production.

Just so you know... I've posted a few new pics for you on my thread.

Chat with you soon!

Ted

[Tom Marshall]

Drats!!! Gonna miss you in HorrorFest. But at least you're continuing so we can see it. :beer:

When (if) we actually rent a place with a digital projector, I'll let you know... we'll all kick back and (try to) enjoy it on the big screen... :)

[Tom Marshall]

Come to find out.. its the same people you are dealing with. Maybe our production just looks bigger or something and all they see are dollar signs.

WHo knows. Frack that though, I don't have $500 so we are just going guerilla. Or... we may have to scrap it all together. :(

So ya, If you talk to that lady again, try to finger a little bit more information from her and see what the deal is. The guy we are dealing with says it was the chodes before us who screwed everything up for everyone else. Maybe cause it was last minute notice or location? This just urkes me. it was up near fawnskin.. the other side of big bear (over the north shore)

/j

Possible... then again, last week was the Big Bear Film Festival (I believe), so maybe that's screwing things up for ya... how many days is your shoot scheduled for? You know there's a DVX meeting this Saturday... you should try and schedule for a Sunday shoot!

[Blaine]

When (if) we actually rent a place with a digital projector, I'll let you know... we'll all kick back and (try to) enjoy it on the big screen... :)
I'm there, let me know. :thumbsup:

[Tom Marshall]

Hey Tommy, sorry you are not going to be able to pull this together in time for the festival deadline BUT BETTER TO TAKE THE TIME AND MAKE IT RIGHT!!! I know that you want to be proud of this production.

Just so you know... I've posted a few new pics for you on my thread.

Chat with you soon!

Ted

Hey Ted, yeah... we're giving ourselves an extra month... this way we can build a few things (like the crane I mentioned) as well as have a rehearsal session the weekend before the shoot... I want this thing to be the best it possibly can be, and a week to plan and execute the shoot is cutting it a bit too short. It's kind of a good thing that our location fell though!

Heading over to check out your new pics dude... :thumbsup:

[Tom Marshall]

I'm there, let me know. :thumbsup:

You got it man!

[Brandon Rice]

Count me in YO!

[Tom Marshall]

Of course Briceman!

[Edgen]

Our shoot was one day only on Saturday so I'm not sure what happened. DVX meeting? here in LA? Shoot. I didn't know about that. Is it a once a month thing?

/j

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah, not an official meeting, more of a get together. I think they try to have one every month... I'll look for the thread for it and pm it to you...

[Tom Marshall]

And when this is all over with...

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=71789

[Blaine]

And when this is all over with...

I think Slimothy may already be hitting it. :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

[Tom Marshall]

LOL... I'd join you guys if I didn't have to work tomorrow!!


Next up for the film... get out my guitar and start practicing like a madman... I'm gonna grind out some power chords on the soundtrack! :)

[TheatreGuy]

You're doin' it all, man! Building a crane, providing the keg, breaking out the power chords!

I LOVE IT!

[Tom Marshall]

You bet! I'm kind of a Renaissance man... :thumbsup:

[Lingothree]

Looking forward to it!

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks :)

[TheatreGuy]

Renaissance Man? Hey, that is one of my titles up here in the friggin' New England area. Glad to hear you are one of the same.

So, what's the skinny? Any news?

[Tom Marshall]

I had an ex-roommate call me that and though it was cool...

So, still trying to get a location. The lady never emailed me back with any locations, so I don't know what's going on there...

I've got all the cast on board now and we're going to rehearse the Saturday before we shoot... so that gives me a few weeks to figure out how to actually direct a film... lol

[TheatreGuy]

... so that gives me a few weeks to figure out how to actually direct a film... lol
You should read my new book... It's called "How I made my first film and how you can learn from my oversights."

It'll be out soon! :grin:

[Tom Marshall]

I probably will... Will it be out by Oct 14th??? :huh:

[TheatreGuy]

Oooh, I don't know. My 10 year wedding anniversay is on the 13th of Oct! I may be busy! [wink!]

[Tom Marshall]

Is it really??? Hey, happy 10th year wedding anniversary!! :D

[TheatreGuy]

Thanks man. It's been a good 10 years! Haven't been in jail once since. :grin:

[Tom Marshall]

Did you do a lot of jail time before you got married?? :laugh:

[conrad_johnson]

This title looks hilarious! I can't wait -G

[Tom Marshall]

Oooohh, but this isn't a comedy... :evil:

[Lingothree]

Did you do a lot of jail time before you got married?? :laugh:

Probably for making too much ladder porn.

[Tom Marshall]

Probably for making too much ladder porn.

It wasn't the ladders that was the problem... it was the midgets that caused so much trouble... oh s**t, sorry Ted... I promised I wouldn't say anything... :lipsrseal

[TheatreGuy]

Did you do a lot of jail time before you got married?? :laugh:
No, but if I didn't have my lovely wife to do all of the household finances, I'd probably be in the slammer for check-bouncing or in a shack with no electricity! Pretty much the same thing!


Probably for making too much ladder porn.
LOL!


It wasn't the ladders that was the problem... it was the midgets that caused so much trouble... oh s**t, sorry Ted... I promised I wouldn't say anything... :lipsrseal
LMAO!

Damn, I am sorry that I couldn't stay up last night and join in this chatter!

I had such a hard time typing. I had a babyback rib bone in one hand trying to sober up a bit while typing with the other hand and trying not to get BBQ sauce on my keyboard!

Too much vino! (gotta love an open bar at a new restaurant tasting session!)

[Charli]

I'm from the South and bbq is the ONLY way to go! You must be kinfolk.

[TheatreGuy]

I'm from the South and bbq is the ONLY way to go! You must be kinfolk.
Santa Cruz is in the South now??? No, I know.... what part of the South are you talking about? As you may know, BBQ varies greatly from state to state! North Cackalacky (Carolina) is one of my favorites! But nothing best Texas style! yummy!:love4:

[Tom Marshall]

No, but if I didn't have my lovely wife to do all of the household finances, I'd probably be in the slammer for check-bouncing or in a shack with no electricity! Pretty much the same thing!


LOL!


LMAO!

Damn, I am sorry that I couldn't stay up last night and join in this chatter!

I had such a hard time typing. I had a babyback rib bone in one hand trying to sober up a bit while typing with the other hand and trying not to get BBQ sauce on my keyboard!

I'm from Florida, so that's considered the south, ain't it?

Too much vino! (gotta love an open bar at a new restaurant tasting session!)
See, now I'd rather have been eating BBQ ribs!! :)

[TheatreGuy]

I am a master on the grill. If we ever have a dvxuser picnic, I volunteer to do the cooking!

[Lingothree]

I had such a hard time typing. I had a babyback rib bone in one hand trying to sober up a bit while typing with the other hand and trying not to get BBQ sauce on my keyboard!

Too much vino! (gotta love an open bar at a new restaurant tasting session!)

Now that's talent. I can imagine you standing on one foot atop a tall ladder, balancing your dvx on one finger and a babyback rib on another.

[conrad_johnson]

I am a master on the grill. If we ever have a dvxuser picnic, I volunteer to do the cooking!
If you're ever in Minneapolis we will have a cookoff, I'm not so bad with a grill myself.

[Tom Marshall]

UPDATE!!!

We're back in for the contest!!! :thumbsup:

It's not what we origininally planned on, but it's closely related to the original project...

It was pretty much a last minute shoot, since we decided to stretch our original idea to about a 15 minute film and increase the budget a few thousand bucks too...

[Brandon Rice]

Dude, I just heard, coolness! Can't wait to see what ya did!

[macintosh]

UPDATE!!!

We're back in for the contest!!! :thumbsup:

It's not what we origininally planned on, but it's closely related to the original project...

It was pretty much a last minute shoot, since we decided to stretch our original idea to about a 15 minute film and increase the budget a few thousand bucks too...

Glad to hear your back in, can't wait to see it!

[Blaine]

Welcome back...:thumbsup: Guess we'd better dust that keg off...:beer:

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks Brandon!! Thanks Macintosh!!

Oh yeah, Blaine... it's on!!! :D

[Tom Marshall]

Man, this h.264 thing is a royal pain in the you know what...

[Rock Punk!]

I had a top 5 things to do while QTPRO creates the mov file:

Cut the grass
Laundry
Read email from work
Clean up kitchen
Watch Tivo'd Saturday Night Live

And, with that this is my 100th post.

[Tom Marshall]

Sweet man!!! Now you can vote!!! :beer:

[luster]

just curious: where'd you put out your casting call? Your actors look pretty professional - at least from the headshots.

[Tom Marshall]

A couple of places. I put an ad on craigslist and myspace and got a few from that. But mainly, I listed the project in the Breakdown Services. I got about 400 replies from that alone.

[luster]

what percentage of actors that you auditioned would you say were good?

[Tom Marshall]

We had 31 people show up and maybe 5 - 10 were decent. I'm an actor myself, so I'm very picky. I wanted to do more casting, but it wasn't possible. I'm looking into shooting a feature, and I'm so freaking picky, it will probably take me 3 months to find the lead character...

[Blaine]

I'm an actor myself, so I'm very picky.I didn't know that. We've got quite a few actors here on DVXUser. It's just hard to keep track of them.
tommyinla, concannon, kimko, ruester...

[Tom Marshall]

I didn't know that. We've got quite a few actors here on DVXUser. It's just hard to keep track of them.
tommyinla, concannon, kimko, ruester...

Yep. If you guys ever need an actor, let me know. :)

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

looking forward to it
a prank gone wrong is a great premise for a short!
saw one where a table of friends tricked an avid lottery player into believing he had won buy having the waiter pretend to read the numbers from a kitchen newspaper (numbers they had given him off the guys ticket)
the guy asks the waiter to repeat
then takes the keys from his pocket, puts them on the table next to his wife, and says "I've been having an affair for 6 months. You can have teh minivan and teh house. All i want is the Jag" and he walks out.
Clean settup with an unexpected punchline - great for a short.

anyway, looks like youa are on solid ground with the premise, and like I said, looking foreward to it.

[gwmesler]

I'm curious to see what you can do with professional actors. Most people are using friends/family and non-professionals.

[Blaine]

Tommy...I gotta tell you, I have no idea how to rate this. I LMAO. That was a true horror story. "You broke the fucking _________." Sorry, didn't want to give away any spoilers.

How many times did you do that to get it right?

I'm gonna hand it to you. I never saw that coming.

Let me give you one of these...http://www.geocities.com/the_callaghans/emoticon-05.gif

I haven't been through everything even once yet, so I wasn't really prepared to comment in threads yet, but as soon as I quit laughing, I had to give you a :thumbup:

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks Blaine! I was just trying to provide a little comic relief from all the other more serious movies... :)

I actually did it twice. First take I went on for about 17 minutes and then moved the camera to a better angle and did the one you saw.


Thanks for the thumbs up man! :D

[gwmesler]

OK, you got me. Scary stuff, man. Boo definitely came to mind.

[Tom Marshall]

OK, you got me. Scary stuff, man. Boo definitely came to mind.
That wasn't the movie were planned on doing, of course. We're actually filming it next weekend. We just figured we'd throw something together at the last minute just to have an entry.

The whole thing was done tongue-in-cheek...

[Brandon Rice]

ROFL funny stuff dude... you broke the _____ was hillarious! ROFL! Can you get another one?! LOL!

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks Brandon!!!!! :D

I haven't gotten you yours yet...

[Peter Murphy]

genius, profane, genius and profane.

[Tom Marshall]

genius, profane, genius and profane.


Thanks!! :) Haven't gotten you yours yet, but I will... I'm going in order...

[Edgen]

:) Yup.. People are slowly trickling in to give you feedback :)

I DEFINITELY was not expecting this at all. Tongue and Cheek at the most. Just turned the camera on and went for it. I think this film is in a category of all it's own.

/j

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah, EVERYTHING was done tongue in cheek... ok, first... the intro music. There was a crappy piano loop with a cheesy bass note in the beginning... then there was my hair, which looked bad on purpose and on and on... :D

[Beat Takeshi]

heh, that was cool. Some behind the scenes before the scenes. Classic.

[Tom Marshall]

Hey Aram, glad you liked it... we were going for something a little different... :)

[Tom Marshall]

OK, for the real film we're doing, here's an update...

Saturday, we're having about a 5 hour rehearsal for the shoot. Everyone except for one guy (contractual agreement he had previously agreed to) is going to show up so it should go well. There are a lot of physical action in the piece so it's imperative that it come out well and be believable...

I think I'm just waaaaaay too picky...

But Saturday, Oct 14th and 15th are the shoot dates and we have our location set up. I have to fill out all of the paper work for the insurance and the permit.

We still need to find a cinematographer (with lighting gear - we have the camera) and a really good audio guy/gal (also with gear, but not imperitive as we can rent a boom and a good mike), so if anyone is looking for something to do and really knows their stuff, let me know!!! :) And yes, I will pay you!

[Brandon Rice]

Might want to look up Justin Snodgrass! (aka snodart) He's a top notch cinematographer!

[Edgen]

Tom, I'm afraid I wouldn't be much help, but If you guys need some extra help, i'm game! this weekend is open except for Saturday night. Hittin' the town with some friends like a champ.

/j

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks Brandon, I'll do that... :)

Edgen, can you show up on the 14th and / or 15th? That's when we'll be shooting.


I'm filling out my first LA film permit right now... talk about surreal!!!

[VersuS]

Man that was some GENIUS prank you had there! I started watching...waiting for the real thing to kick in...and I'm like 'what the f@@@ did I just download a bts?'

And he broke the camerA???? MAKE A SNUFF one out of that guy!!!!! ;)

You could have gone a bit berzerk though and smash the keyboard!!!

[Tom Marshall]

lol thanks John... actually, the filename somehow didn't come right. The name of our entry was actually "Maliboo BTS"... I don't know what happened. When Jarred posted that Mailboo (swapped the i and the l) had been posted, I just said !@#$ it and let it go... :D

[JoshuaNitschke]

Did...did I download the right file?

Just one guy talking and telling a story?

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah, that was the right one. That's what we could come up with on short notice. The real thing is being shot this coming weekend...

[Michael_Petro]

I was waiting for a head to be blown off or something but nope...:) o-well

[Tom Marshall]

lol... Michael, I watched your short and thought it was pretty cool... I'll make sure to leave some feedback when I get a chance...

[Aaron Marshall]

Being stuck in a small dark room with keyboards? That sounds like my life. Great job! I was horrified. yikes!

[Tom Marshall]

Being stuck in a small dark room with keyboards? That sounds like my life. Great job! I was horrified. yikes!

Sounds like a really good thing though... you're doing what you want to do, and that speaks volumes.

[Max R. Wilson]

Got our site up...

http://www.maliboomovie.com/

Keep checking back for updates.

[TheatreGuy]

MOVIE OF THE YEAR!!! A ONE TAKE WONDER!!! YOU'LL BE SPEECHLESS!!! IT IS FLAWLESS!!!

Great job Tom!!!

Ted

:grin:

[Tom Marshall]

ROTF!! Thanks for the support Ted!!! :thumbsup:

Can I use that as my review line? ;)

[Kyle Stebbins]

I didnt download the zip files... but the maliboo.mov on the mirror sites is your BTS, isn't it? Any direct links to your film??

[Ralph Oshiro]

OMFG!

FUNNIEST f*****g film in horrorfest period.

Great job, man!

[mameragex]

I'm glad I checked this post cause I fast forward the movie and was like "AW $H!T this guy accidently uploaded the wrong file!" But since then I went back and saw it...Good one buddy! You got me too!:thumbsup:

[VersuS]

he broke the camera :(

[jpbankesmercer]

Hehe, you should be in Clerks man. Another one shot wonder!
J.P.

[Texture]

Hmmm. I got what seems to be a BTS at the mirror. Any mirror that has the real thing up? Which zip file is it loaded on? Ahhh, I need the mirror. My laptop harddrive is filed to the edge. Not enough space for the zips. No time to clean it up right now...

[Michael_Petro]

lol... Michael, I watched your short and thought it was pretty cool... I'll make sure to leave some feedback when I get a chance...


thannks for the cool vote :)

You know what I think the funniest thing is about your amazingly bloodless film is?... The Forum Thread!.... hey man did I d/l the bts? keeps me in stitches I tell ya :)

[Kyle Stebbins]

let me tell you in the words of George W. Bush:
"fool me once. Shame... shame on you. Fool me twice... (pause) a fooled man don't get fooled again!"

bravo... wonderful prank.

[khmuse]

Hi fellow dvxusers,

Here is a thread for those interesed in Maliboo. We are looking for a number of crew members for this coming weekend.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=74178

[Tom Marshall]

lol... thanks everyone!

Actually, it wasn't meant to be a "fooled ya" entry at all. There was a naming mistake on the file. It was originally called "Maliboo BTS" :)

We're filming the actual short on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Thanks Kevin for the thread. Hopefully some people who'd like to crew this project will be interested.

It's turning out to be a higher budget (much higher!) than I had originally anticipated. We're going to be renting a Panasonic SDX900 for the shoot and with Kevin taking care of our cinematography, I know it's going to come out great!

[disjecta]

By far my favorite. Made me laugh so hard, I watched it twice in a row.

Good stuff.

[Tom Marshall]

By far my favorite. Made me laugh so hard, I watched it twice in a row.

Good stuff.

Thanks! :)

[Tom Marshall]

Tomorrow's the big day!! Shooting begins... on Friday the 13th no less... :cheesy:

[arielman]

First I thought "What the..." Then I read the post above and realized it was a file name mistake . On the other hand losing a site and then having your camera busted is a real HORROR story itself ..

Ian

[jpbankesmercer]

Best of luck (other one shot!)

[khmuse]

Let's just hope that the prequel BTS submission isn't a prediction of events that will occur on the real shoot!

We begin principal photography today, crew call is at 4:00 PM, cast at 5:30. I am looking forward to shooting this one, great location, great camera, lighting and grip package.

Thanks to those that responded to the request for crew posting.

I know that Tom is still looking for some background players, so if any one is interested, I would suggest PMing him to get the details.

[TheatreGuy]

Tommy, my man! Been great getting to know you and look forward to your FILM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

It's going to ROCK!

Thanks for the teaser!

Now get us the real thing!!!

Ted

[khmuse]

We should have a lot of great BTS stills from this shoot as we'll have Blaine (one hell of a great resource on any set and a great guy to boot) taking care of that task, in addition to all the wonderful pre pro paperwork that he has come aboard to assist with.

Principal photography begins in less than 8 hours, so a lot of last minute prep for today.

[Tom Marshall]

Best of luck (other one shot!)

Thanks jp! We'll see how things go...

I'll most likely start a new threat under "User Films" once principal photography is over with and this thing is in the can.... lots of BTS stuff and still photos.

And yes, I hope the prequel doesn't indicate anything bad happening. Maybe that was a way of getting rid of anything with a bad vibe.

We are shooting on Friday the 13th after all...

[Tom Marshall]

Tommy, my man! Been great getting to know you and look forward to your FILM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YAHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

It's going to ROCK!

Thanks for the teaser!

Now get us the real thing!!!

Ted

Thanks Ted!!! :)

Man, I hope it's good... with these guys on the team (Kevin, Blaine, Slimothy et al), I think it will be a nice little project!

Real thing will be here in about a month, give or take... :thumbup:

[khmuse]

The 1st night of shooting is in the can, but man, the weather was not very cooperative!

Who says it never rains in Southern California?

[Norm Sanders]

Just finally getting the time to copy the notes I compiled in a Word doc while watching the shorts:

Kidding, right? This was the entry? Hmmm, I’ll have to go back through the thread & see what happened … I’m guessing things fell through, perhaps just like what was played out on camera, and this was the explanation for everyone to watch & see why the film never entered.

[Tom Marshall]

Just finally getting the time to copy the notes I compiled in a Word doc while watching the shorts:

Kidding, right? This was the entry? Hmmm, I’ll have to go back through the thread & see what happened … I’m guessing things fell through, perhaps just like what was played out on camera, and this was the explanation for everyone to watch & see why the film never entered.

Yes it was a total spoof done tongue in cheek. We shot the real thing this past weekend and it went fairly smoothly. The main thing, as khmuse said, was the weather on Friday. That and needing to round up some extras at the last minute.

I'm going to start a new thread under "User Films" when I get a chance to catch up on some lost sleep...

[khmuse]

Maliboo was a great project to work on. Weather was an issue, but only really effected one shot Friday evening. We did encounter a number of challenges, including a rather hysterical event on Sunday evening where two of our principals ended up in the swimming pool during a take. I have yet to view it, but from what I was told the BTS footage rolling caught it all.

I think Blaine got a good bit of BTS shots, both still and motion, so there should be some really interesting things to supplement this project.

Despite being dead tired this morning (we didn't leave set until 3:45 AM) at a pre-pro meeting, I had a great time working with everyone on this film.

[Max R. Wilson]

Maliboo was a great project to work on. Weather was an issue, but only really effected one shot Friday evening. We did encounter a number of challenges, including a rather hysterical event on Sunday evening where two of our principals ended up in the swimming pool during a take. I have yet to view it, but from what I was told the BTS footage rolling caught it all.

I think Blaine got a good bit of BTS shots, both still and motion, so there should be some really interesting things to supplement this project.

Despite being dead tired this morning (we didn't leave set until 3:45 AM) at a pre-pro meeting, I had a great time working with everyone on this film.

It was great working with you and all the others on this project...

I took a look of the BTS today and the pool part looks exactly like i thought. :)

[Edgen]

hey guys! Glad the shoot went Good! Tom, sorry I couldn't make it out. hell, this DVX fest wore me the hell out. :) It was 9:30 pm yesterday and I stopped... looked around... and noticed I was still in my PJs. wowa.

Looking forward to seeing how the project turns out!

/j

[khmuse]

I took a look of the BTS today and the pool part looks exactly like i thought. :)

Which I am assuming was a good thing? If I remember correctly, the BTS camera was about 10 feet higher than the A camera, but about on the same shot line, so this will give us a clue as to what was actually captured. This scene will be a bit of an editing challenge for whomever Tom gets to take on that task.

My lighting setups on this and a lot of those scenes were pretty complicated so I wonder how much they show up on the BTS footage? It was nice to have a great camera op and gaffer on this project, made being the DP a bit easier.

Thanks guys for a fun project!

[Tom Marshall]

It truly was a great time working with everyone on this project. And Justin, no worries, my friend.

Yep, it will be a challenge piecing that scene together. I realized we actually missed a shot of Matt walking through the house and back to the pool. I don't know how critical that shot will be to the final cut though. I'm hoping it will cut ok.


Max did a great job as camera op. He really picked things up and came through for us. Everyone did a great job, really.

Thanks Kevin for stepping in on this project with such a short deadline. The production value really went through the roof once you jumped on board.

And a big thanks goes to Blaine too. I don't know what we would have done without your scheduling help and all the other help you gave us.

Thanks to David "ACDC" Chien for his great work with the script analysis and further breakdown and his boom op skills as well.

Thanks to Tim for doing grip. Without that, the project would have really dragged and we would have missed a lot of good shots.


I think this is something that will come out well and we can all enjoy sitting back and watching real soon!

[Max R. Wilson]

Which I am assuming was a good thing? If I remember correctly, the BTS camera was about 10 feet higher than the A camera, but about on the same shot line, so this will give us a clue as to what was actually captured. This scene will be a bit of an editing challenge for whomever Tom gets to take on that task.

Yea i think it should cut ok. still a little bit of a challenge but it should look good.

We would have been screwed if the table didint cut off the bottom of the framing on the SDX.

[Blaine]

Thanks for the kind words, guys. I had a great time on the project and I'm excited about seeing the finished movie...:thumbsup:

[khmuse]

Thanks to David "ACDC" Chien for his great work with the script analysis and further breakdown and his boom op skills as well.


I should clarify that Tom's use of the term "ACDC" is actually a kind of convergence term we threw out while on set, its a cross between AC (assistant camera) and AD (assistant director) and not a comment on any orientation!

[Kholi]

So when do we get to see some of the stuff? =D

[Tom Marshall]

I should clarify that Tom's use of the term "ACDC" is actually a kind of convergence term we threw out while on set, its a cross between AC (assistant camera) and AD (assistant director) and not a comment on any orientation!
Actually, I think David liked it... I was thinking ACDC as in the rock band...


So when do we get to see some of the stuff? =D
I'm hoping to get the tapes transfered to hard drive soon so that I can go through the footage. We shot on a SDX900, so everything is on DVCPRO50 tapes right now and I don't have a deck - but that may soon be solved as Kevin knows someone who may transfer them for us.

I might post some BTS stuff real soon though! :)

[khmuse]

Well there you go! Leave it to me to always think in sexual orientation terms!

Damn cultural sensitivity classes.

[Tom Marshall]

Well there you go! Leave it to me to always think in sexual orientation terms!

Damn cultural sensitivity classes.
Hmm... well, you know, he did want that Viking helmet pretty bad! :huh:

[Max R. Wilson]

Im transfering the BTS to HDD now...

[khmuse]

I always hate seeing BTS stuff as I hate seeing myself, but I am really curious how it turned out, so PM me a link when you can.

[Slimothy]

Yea, let's see em!

[khmuse]

Tim I gotta say, your avatar image seems in such stark contrast to the political views that you expressed the other evening at the screening. Now I realize that we were all in the process of getting drunk, but still, the contrast is kinda creepy!

[Blaine]

While we're waiting on the some bts from Max and Tom here's a shot from the first night of shooting. This is the brain trust, Tom, Kevin and Max setting the scene.

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/500/The_Brain_Trust.jpg

[khmuse]

Oh great!

This one makes it look like the director is drinking water...

the camera op is doing his job...

and the DP is drinking a beer!

Its a damn setup I tell ya, I was sober the entire time!:grin:

Though after David and David went into the pool, I could have used a belt or two!

[Tom Marshall]

Oh great!

This one makes it look like the director is drinking water...

the camera op is doing his job...

and the DP is drinking a beer!

Its a damn setup I tell ya, I was sober the entire time!:grin:

Though after David and David went into the pool, I could have used a belt or two!

Yeah, Kevin... that's not a real flattering shot. You do look like you've had a few in that one!

[Blaine]

Yeah, Kevin... that's not a real flattering shot. You do look like you've had a few in that one!
Don't worry, you're next...:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

btw, the tape I gave you Sunday night/Monday morning was the second bts tape. Max got one with the bts on it and a striped tape.

[Slimothy]

Tim I gotta say, your avatar image seems in such stark contrast to the political views that you expressed the other evening at the screening. Now I realize that we were all in the process of getting drunk, but still, the contrast is kinda creepy!
I don't get it. Maybe it's because I don't remember what I said :)

Nice shot Blaine. That camera takes some awesome pics.

[Tom Marshall]

It's an awesome camera!

[Blaine]

Just waiting for Tom to call "Action!"

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Shooting_the_Scene.jpg

[Blaine]

Left to Right: Matthew Hart (actor), Josh Friehling (actor), Tim (Slimothy-Gaffer), David Lindsay (actor), Tom (tommyinla-Director), David Light (actor) and Kevin (khmuse-DP).

Good thing that solid wasn't plate glass or we'd have had to find a flower cart to crash through it.

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Plate_Solid.jpg

[Blaine]

Tom's obligatory "directing shot"

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Director_Pose.jpg

[khmuse]

That ain't a directing shot. Its Tom confirming the shortest path to the restroom!

[TheatreGuy]

While we're waiting on the some bts from Max and Tom here's a shot from the first night of shooting. This is the brain trust, Tom, Kevin and Max setting the scene.

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/500/The_Brain_Trust.jpg
Hmmmm...is that a Sam Adam's I spy there??? :beer:


Just waiting for Tom to call "Action!"

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Shooting_the_Scene.jpg
Uh-oh! There's that scary-looking guy!!!

Great to see some BTS!!! Keep 'em coming!

[Blaine]

Tom (on the far right) discusses the hallway scene with Matthew Hart and Brittany Phillips as David Light looks on.

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/During_Setup.jpg

[Blaine]

Just to confirm, we DID have Red Whips (or Vines) on the set to stave off disaster...it almost worked.

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Red_Whips.jpg

[TheatreGuy]

That ain't a directing shot. Its Tom confirming the shortest path to the restroom!
LOL! :grin:

I gotta say, I like the beer of choice in these pix. I'll work with this crew anyday!

[khmuse]

Just to confirm, we DID have Red Whips (or Vines) on the set to stave off disaster...it almost worked.



Imagine how bad our little incident on Sunday evening could have been without them!

[khmuse]

Hey Blaine,

Did you happen to catch my little 8 key/fill light setup for the party scene in any of the stills? I know that I kept Tim rather busy moving sources around on that shot!

[TheatreGuy]

Well, I have to say... I am a little disappointed here.....

I didn't see one single ladder in ANY of these shots!!! :grin:

[Blaine]

Well, I have to say... I am a little disappointed here.....

I didn't see one single ladder in ANY of these shots!!! :grin:
Here's your ladder:

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Ladder.jpg

[Slimothy]

Hey Blaine,

Did you happen to catch my little 8 key/fill light setup for the party scene in any of the stills? I know that I kept Tim rather busy moving sources around on that shot!
Kevin, I got some video of the setup.

And about the red vines: David Light may not be alive to tell the story if it weren't for those tasty little buggers.

[khmuse]

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161288867.jpg

Here is an image of a setup that took a while to execute. First off, its day for night, so that adds a bit of challenge. There was a hall way that we had to Duvateen off at the end as there was a large window very high (15' up) that we couldn't block. This setup utilized a total of 4 150W DedoLight heads (2 for keys/fill and 2 for hair lights). There was also an Arri 650 used for overall fill, another 650 used as a gag light for the bathroom interior. We used a pair of wall spreaders (you really should have seen the looks that I got when I said I wanted a pair of wall spreaders, I think that they thought it was a pornographic reference!) to get the lighting instruments into place in this narrow hallway.

The exterior window at the rear required 2 6' x 6' double nets and a 6' x 6' solid to simulate moon light. The nets were placed very close to the window with a bit of foliage in front to "sell" the look. The solid was used at a step angle to let only a bit of daylight bleed in to "sell" as moonlight.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161288697.jpg

Here is a closer look at the DedoLight heads (my favorite instrument in tight spots by a mile) and one of the wall spreaders.

[khmuse]

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161289915.jpg

This setup was a last minute idea that I came up with that would cover a master shot and also reveal a new space in the location. This was a real pain in the rear as I had to do this one twice. The first time, we were to have 20 or so extras in a living room dancing. After spending a couple of hours to get it set up, we found out that we were not going to have our extras in time so that setup had to be struck. The idea that I had was to compress the size of the room so that our few extras could be made to look like they were in a smaller area than they were (the room was really large, over 30' x 40'). This setup has a lot of practical lights; many strings of little "pumpkin" and "skull" lights (they look low in this shot, but they look correct on the A camera) as well as a lamp in the shot as a motivated source (I used a PH-211 and a dimmer on this to set the ratio). The keys/fills were 150W DedoLights (I know, I sound like a broken record, but these things really are my favorite). There is also a Lowel Caselite 4 used but it isn't shown in this angle.

The dolly track angle allowed us to do an interesting move as I added a pan to the move to act as a pivot around 2 of the extras ending in a reveal of the new space in the background.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161289992.jpg

This shot show a bit of the other room that was revealed at the end of the move. There were a lot of French Doors that had to be "Duvateened off". The key and fill for this second space was a CaseLite 4 and an Arri 650 Fresnel.

[TheatreGuy]

Here's your ladder:

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Ladder.jpg
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheatreGuy]

khmuse, thanks for sharing the info in these pix. Very cool. I love the wall spreader idea. Very cool.

And that is a nice set-up on that dolly. How smooth is that? I guess you need a pretty hefty tripod to put together a rig like that. But I like it.

[Max R. Wilson]

with a sandbag on the spreader it was pretty smooth.
khmuse, thanks for sharing the info in these pix. Very cool. I love the wall spreader idea. Very cool.

And that is a nice set-up on that dolly. How smooth is that? I guess you need a pretty hefty tripod to put together a rig like that. But I like it.

[khmuse]

khmuse, thanks for sharing the info in these pix. Very cool. I love the wall spreader idea. Very cool.

I can't take credit for the wall spreader, its a standard piece of grip equipment used on a lot of sets; but I agree, they are very cool.

I use wall spreaders all the time when trying to get a source overhead without any supports in the frame. I have hung some pretty good sized instruments (1k2s) off of these and if placed properly, they are very stable.

The one thing that I would mention, I always use a safety wire around the instrument and the 2x4. Having even a small source fall on your talent isn't gonna make any friends.

[khmuse]

And that is a nice set-up on that dolly. How smooth is that? I guess you need a pretty hefty tripod to put together a rig like that. But I like it.

I built that dolly out of a few different pieces that I pulled off of things that I wasn't using any longer. Its a 12 wheel design on what was a pretty poor spreader/dolly to start with. I changed it over to a track design re-machined the poorly built pieces and added a number of nice bearings and proper hardware. The track is schedule 40 PVC with threaded pipe inserts so that the sections come apart easily. The lengths are different so that you can position the "seams" at different points and can accommodate a variety of run lengths. It runs pretty smooth, nearly as good as anything that I have used that costs many time more. The way that I configured it, it can handle some pretty heavy loads as the forces are maintained directly over the bearing races.

The best part, other than it not costing much over $350 to make is that it breaks down and fits in a couple of very small bags. Its much more portable than the doorway dolly that I used to use.

The sticks are a Cartoni with a Delta head.

[TheatreGuy]

The one thing that I would mention, I always use a safety wire around the instrument and the 2x4. Having even a small source fall on your talent isn't gonna make any friends.
No, I imagine not!

Not to worry by me... I am a "theatre guy." Safety cables all the way!

Very nice info on those spreader. I will be adding those to my stock!

[khmuse]

Yeah, I have seen you theater types put a bunch of PAR cans up pretty darn high!

[TheatreGuy]

That's right! And I work in some of these really crappy houses were the pipes don't come to the floor and you have to carry crap up to the grid! Sucks!

[TheatreGuy]

I should say that I have also worked in some very, very nice houses, too.

[khmuse]

I lensed a film about a year ago that was shot in a very old theater, built in 1923. It was originally a vaudevillian theater and was later converted to a motion picture theater. A really big place (over 900 seats), that had been abandon for almost 20 years before the community decided to restore it. It was built at the same time as the famous Egyptian Theater by the same construction company.

In one scene I ended up shooting some really high shots from the wire gallery (I think that is the correct term) about 60 feet above the stage. Hell of a scary experience and I used to rock climb so its not just a fear of heights. The stunt coordinator assured me that it was safe, the the amount of corrosion and decay up there didn't really reassure me all that much!

You theater guys are a special bread, much less oversight than the film industry (at least the union gigs) and much more "seat of the pants" approach to getting things done, becuase...

The show must go on.

My hat is off to you and all the 'theater guys' of this world!

[Brandon Rice]

Cool BTS stuff, when can we see some screenies? :)

[khmuse]

Cool BTS stuff, when can we see some screenies? :)

Not for a while. Still have to pull in the footage to an NLE and right now, I haven't lined up a deck to accomplish that. Working on one, but it will be early next week before its ready and even then, its Tom's call if he wants any caps released.

Glad you like the BTS, I will see if there are more stills that we can get up to show some of the other setups.

[Brandon Rice]

Cool, sounds good! Looking forward to more stuff.

[khmuse]

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161330868.jpg

This is one of the simpler setups for this project. The scene is a long static three shot of the all the main characters where a lot of the back story is established. In this one, I didn't want to do anything too stylized as this wasn't meant to overpower the dialog.

The actor (David Lindsay) playing "Billy" can be seen sitting on the bed. Tim is facing the camera (gaffer / key grip), I have my eye on the EVF and Max, our camera op is frame right.

The lighting consisted of a practical with a PH-212 (small lamp on the table at the end of the bed) and simulated moonlight coming in through a set of blinds. Since this was actually shot at night, we didn't have to work too hard to block the window, just a 6' x 6' solid and an Arri 650 with full CTB. The key was a 16" China Ball with an ECA.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161330821.jpg

Just a bit of black foil was needed to "sculpt" the output of the China Ball. What was really an issue in this location was the terrible slap echo that this room had. I used some furni pads on gobo arms to rig a bit of a baffle on two of the walls. It really helped to get the sound back in control.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161330904.jpg

This isn't a screen cap, but rather a BTS still, so it doesn't really represent either the look or color of the A cam all that well, but it gives you an idea. In the A cam, the overall levels are lower and the CTB source coming in through the window is much more subtle.

[TheatreGuy]

I lensed a film about a year ago that was shot in a very old theater, built in 1923. It was originally a vaudevillian theater and was later converted to a motion picture theater. A really big place (over 900 seats), that had been abandon for almost 20 years before the community decided to restore it. It was built at the same time as the famous Egyptian Theater by the same construction company.
That's what many of the houses are like up here. Very early century, 800+seats and just beautiful when restored. Get this... I would in this one house where the entire floor is hinged on the edge closest to the stage and the back edge ELEVATES to build a raked audience!!! It is amazing! I believe there were only 7 of them ever built and this is the last one and it still works! A little 4 HP engine spins these wheels with long leather belts and screw-turns that floor up to it's max. height. Takes about 45 minutes. It is wild. But the house can be used asa theatre with the floor in a rake position and as a dance floor or whatever with the floor lowered and seats removed. (They're bolted together in long rows, blah, blah, blah.) Thank goodness I am the designer, I really don't envy those guys moving all those seats!

But some very cool houses up here.


In one scene I ended up shooting some really high shots from the wire gallery (I think that is the correct term) about 60 feet above the stage. Hell of a scary experience and I used to rock climb so its not just a fear of heights. The stunt coordinator assured me that it was safe, the the amount of corrosion and decay up there didn't really reassure me all that much!
It's not called a "wire gallery" out here but I can see where it would get that name. Typically it is the grid (over head at the very top), the trim is the pipes in position and the fly loft is off to the side. But what the hell do I know, I didn't go to school!

Very brave of you. I have done so stupid sh*t and lived to tell about it. (whew!) That must have been a sweet shot!


You theater guys are a special bread, much less oversight than the film industry (at least the union gigs) and much more "seat of the pants" approach to getting things done, becuase...

The show must go on.

My hat is off to you and all the 'theater guys' of this world!
Thanks a lot. Unfortunately, the theatre is a dying art. No. Not in huge market cities, but in many areas... theatre just doesn't have an audience. It is one of the reasons I am bowing out. That in the fact that I just can't stand to see all of my hard work as a designer end up dismantled and destroyed never to be seen again.

I have always love the film medium and hope that I can find a new home here to "perserve" my work from now on!

Thanks for sharing both the theatre story and comment as well as the lighting techniques here. I can't wait to learn more of what you were talking about! :grin: Gonna go google some terms!!!

Ted

[khmuse]

Wow Ted,

Those are some great stories. Being an engineer (EE) I am fascinated by a lot of the early mechanical solutions employed. The tilting floor design sounds amazing, I doubt you would ever get a planning department to sign off on something like that today, but here one is, how many years later, and still doing its job! Way cool.

The term "wire gallery" may have been specific to this theater as there was a lot of elements hung from the grid on wires. This place (Fox Fullerton Theatre) had so many uses over the years, they never seemed to strike anything, it just kept growing and growing. There were all these little birds (wooden carvings) that were wired up and looked like at one time that they could be made to fly around the stage area below.

This theater had been abandoned for over 20 years and had homeless living within, rain had begun to degrade the roof and the place was an absolute mess. There was some serious concern over the environmental hazards (the asbestos curtain was pretty sketchy) that bring in a film crew might encounter.

We shot there for 10 days, and the production values that the location brought were off the chart. You couldn't have made a place that looked this distressed with a million dollar budget.

Glad that you are liking my BTS lighting posts. You were so generous with your time and information on I.D. that I felt that I needed to reciprocate. Just wish that more of the other users would share their setups. I have learned more from being on a lot of sets than by any "classic" training. I have seen some pretty innovative solutions seemingly pulled out of thin air!

I will post a few more about "Maliboo" shortly.

Kevin

PS If you are interested, send me a PM and I'll get you a link to a rough (before full CGI) cut of "Trick" that I lensed in the Fox Fullerton Theatre.

[khmuse]

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161357956.jpg

This is one of the simplest setups, the fourth in a five shot sequence that has one of the characters arriving at the location. Here you can see how small these DedoLights are. That is one pushed into the corner of the counter actings as fill / hair light for this actor. The key is a 4 bank Lowel Case Lite 4 using 3200k globes. I think that we used a 24" x 36" single and a solid to carve a few shadows on this setup (a week later and its already becoming a bit of a blur). The advantage of these two sources is that they are so quick to setup. This comes in very handy on these really fast moving shoots. There is so little time to cover the script that I really appreciate the flexibility that these instruments bring.

I really like the CaseLite for a number of reasons. Its light weight, the thermo formed case is its own housing, its a HF flicker free source and switchable between 1 to 4 globes. Being a large source, its pretty soft so you can get it in close and just switch up the level you need.

I own the CaseLite (around $1500) but the Dedos are rented items as they are VERY expensive (the 4 head kit is near $7000). I am always looking for Dedos in the used market, but I have yet to ever see them come up. I guess their owner's are just as fond of them as I am.

[Tom Marshall]

I've been out of the loop here for a couple of days (friend has came in to town to visit for the latter half of the week through next Monday), but the screenshots look great! Nice job, Blaine! :)

I'll get a chance to meet up with Max in a few days to have a look at the BTS video we took... can't wait to see what we've captured... esp the 2 going into the pool...

[Tom Marshall]

Tom's obligatory "directing shot"

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/Director_Pose.jpg
lol... Nike hat and a Nike shirt! Looks almost like an endorsement!! :grin:

EDIT: I also notice a 6 pack of Guinness, a Ralph's bag, and an Arrowhead waterbottle... I think we've got the whole "product placement" thing down... :thumbsup:

[TheatreGuy]

HA HA! Yeah, you do! (product placement)

Thanks Kevin, I'll send you a PM. A appreciate it the offer. I really am learning a lot in your set-ups and notes.

Ted

[Tom Marshall]

Kevin is a great guy to learn from. He's been doing this for a while and really knows his stuff!

[Blaine]

Here are Tom's actors:

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Brittany_Phillips.jpg
Brittany Phillips

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Josh_Friehling.jpghttp://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Matthew_Hart.jpg
Josh Friehling..................................Matthew Hart

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/David_Light.jpghttp://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/David_Lindsay.jpg
David "D-Lite" Light.........................David Lindsay

[Brandon Rice]

that David Light dude IS freaky. haha.

I want to see some screenshots!

[Tom Marshall]

Here are Tom's actors:

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Brittany_Phillips.jpg
Brittany Phillips

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Josh_Friehling.jpghttp://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Matthew_Hart.jpg
Josh Friehling..................................Matthew Hart

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/David_Light.jpghttp://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/David_Lindsay.jpg
David "D-Lite" Light.........................David Lindsay

Wow, we need to crop out D-Lite with that knife and use that for the poster...

[Ralph Oshiro]

Lighting looks great Kev! But can we get some more pictures of the hot chick? The one with the big pair of . . . eyes?

[Ralph Oshiro]

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/106/1161288697.jpgDig your wall spreader action, Kev!

[Ralph Oshiro]

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Brittany_Phillips.jpg

More, please . . .

[kimko]

kool TOMMY CONGRATS on your first.....well you popped your cherry with the best ;BLAINE, TIM, KEVIN. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT!

[khmuse]

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/Brittany_Phillips.jpg

More, please . . .

I can tell you are going to like some of the "pool" and "party" shot ideas that I came up with! Hopefully well have more to share soon.

[khmuse]

Lighting looks great Kev! But can we get some more pictures of the hot chick? The one with the big pair of . . . eyes?

Yeah, she did have really nice ... "eyes"! When I get some screen caps, I will talk about the special lighting I used for her "eyes".

Sometimes a strategically placed hair light can accomplish so much more.

[Tom Marshall]

kool TOMMY CONGRATS on your first.....well you popped your cherry with the best ;BLAINE, TIM, KEVIN. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT!

Thanks dude! :)

Yeah, I had some great guys to work with. I consider myself very lucky...

[Tom Marshall]

Yeah, she did have really nice ... "eyes"! When I get some screen caps, I will talk about the special lighting I used for her "eyes".

Sometimes a strategically placed hair light can accomplish so much more.

Did you really light her "eyes"? Wow... Nice... what else can I say?

[khmuse]

I told you that you might want to watch the monitor on that take. Now you know why!

[Blaine]

I told you that you might want to watch the monitor on that take. Now you know why!
Damn, and there I was, stuck in the bathroom :(

[khmuse]

Damn, and there I was, stuck in the bathroom :(

Well you did draw the short straw!

And besides, the actress sent in with you was pretty cute in her own right. :Drogar-Love(DBG):




OK, I should add that Blaine was opperating the bathroom light gag not just hanging out in the bathroom with a young actress.

[Blaine]

And besides, the actress sent in with you was pretty cute in her own right. :Drogar-Love(DBG):
Well, yeah...:beer:

[Blaine]

"Hey, how long does it take to set up three Arri's and four Dedo's?"

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/500/Tom_Directing.jpg

[Tom Marshall]

I told you that you might want to watch the monitor on that take. Now you know why!
Ok, next time I'll pay more attention to those types of "suggestions" :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

And that is so not a good shot of me up there... lol

[Tom Marshall]

Well you did draw the short straw!

And besides, the actress sent in with you was pretty cute in her own right. :Drogar-Love(DBG):


Yeah she was! I almost wished I was Blaine in that situation!! (Ok, is Blaine still reading at this point?) I'm so glad I wasn't stuck in that bathroom... Brittany was smokin hot standing there... I mean, good GOD man... :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

[Kyle Stebbins]

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/David_Light.jpghttp://www.stickypod.com/videos/data/528/medium/David_Lindsay.jpg

1st guy - holy shit i just screamed
2nd guy - looks like he could be hugely succesful in a comedy tv series! awesome!

as for the girl... well it's all been said before.

[Tom Marshall]

Thanks Kyle,

I hope we got the effect we were going for in the last shot with David standing there with the knife. He was waiting in the shadows for Matt...

[Brandon Rice]

When you gunna start a thread in User Films? And get some screenshots up :)

[Kyle Stebbins]

I hope we got the effect we were going for in the last shot with David standing there with the knife. He was waiting in the shadows for Matt...

You color corrected this shot, yes? To look darker?

I mean, you didn't leave it all white and daytime looking, did you? It's cool if you did but I was just wondering.

[Blaine]

You color corrected this shot, yes? To look darker?

I mean, you didn't leave it all white and daytime looking, did you? It's cool if you did but I was just wondering.
Kyle, the shots you are seeing were done with a dslr. The purpose of the shot were to basically shot photos of the production, not necessarily give the atmosphere. The movie itself was shot much darker than what you see in these photos.

Not sure if the tapes from the SDX900 have been transferred yet. Until they are, y'all'll just have to wait on the screenshots...:)

[Tom Marshall]

When you gunna start a thread in User Films? And get some screenshots up :)

I do need to move this thread over to User Films... I think it's about time it did. And screenshots will be done as soon as we get ahold of a deck to transfer the tapes to HDD.


You color corrected this shot, yes? To look darker?

I mean, you didn't leave it all white and daytime looking, did you? It's cool if you did but I was just wondering.
That wasn't the actual shot. That was shot for the BTS stuff before we actually filmed it. Kevin shot a light off the wall to give him a nice shadowed look.

[Tom Marshall]

Kyle, the shots you are seeing were done with a dslr. The purpose of the shot were to basically shot photos of the production, not necessarily give the atmosphere. The movie itself was shot much darker than what you see in these photos.

Not sure if the tapes from the SDX900 have been transferred yet. Until they are, y'all'll just have to wait on the screenshots...:)

Nope, the tapes are still sitting at my house... those big speaker magnets make a nice tape stand... :cheesy: