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peter orland
08-02-2006, 08:41 PM
What settings on the HVX would be considered shooting a flat image?

And is it preferable with the HVX to shoot this way for a clip that is to be heavily colour corrected in post?

Thanks.
David Jimerson
08-03-2006, 07:21 AM
Everything at 0. Maybe Detail Level at -7.
Barry_Green
08-03-2006, 11:04 AM
I'd also consider shooting on CINELIKE-D, for the widest flattest dynamic range.
arno
08-03-2006, 12:09 PM
Gamma? Normal?
peter orland
08-04-2006, 05:11 PM
I'd also consider shooting on CINELIKE-D, for the widest flattest dynamic range.

So if I set up my scene file with everything to zero and select Cinelike D as my Gamma, what would you set the matrix at?

Also David, I tried the detail at -7 and it looked way too soft. Is there any reason you recommended that setting?

Thanks.
Antoine_Fabi
08-05-2006, 09:13 AM
Agree,

-7 is way too soft.

IMHO, -2 to 0 detail level looks natural.
David Jimerson
08-05-2006, 09:49 AM
I say -7 because it IS the image. Anything above -7 has edge enhancement added in-camera. If you want a truly "flat" image, meaning, as little image manipulation done in-camera as possible, then -7 is where you want to be. A setting of 0 isn't "no enhancement," it's halfway up the scale.

You can add the exact same sharpness in post. But it's up to your taste.

As for Matrix, use Normal.
peter orland
08-05-2006, 05:37 PM
Thanks David.


Anything above -7 has edge enhancement added in-camera. If you want a truly "flat" image, meaning, as little image manipulation done in-camera as possible, then -7 is where you want to be. A setting of 0 isn't "no enhancement," it's halfway up the scale.

Wow! That's news to me. Then that would mean that the actual "flat" image that the camera is recording is actually out of focus - soft. At -7 small text/lettering is actually slightly blury. Why would Panasonic manufacture a camera that in it's native, (unprocessed mode) the image isn't sharp?



You can add the exact same sharpness in post. But it's up to your taste.

Wouldn't it be different? Aren't you just sharpening up an image that has been recorded soft and slightly out of focus? Wouldn't it be better to record the image in focus in the first place?

Thanks.