instant HD

[PaPa]

alright.

im getting tired of second guessing myself so i would like ot settle once and for all the benefits of having instant HD in premier pro 1.5

i opened a new timline and made it 1920x1080

took the grab, to one, i appiled instant HD and customized the proportions as close as i could to keep the aspect ratio correct

and to the other i just resized the image from 100% to 267%

the difference is soo minute that taking a sharpening tool and increasing the sharp to 5 mimics the instand HD footage image.

what does everyone else have ot say on this.

[vidled]

I am not sure what happened to the other InstandHD thread, but there were examples there that CLEARLY showed the advantages of an S-Spline or an InstantHD uprezzing.

[ryan brown]

I'd like to see that thread also... I'll look tomorrow, but if someone has found it, please post.

[novelt]

wow it must've been deleted...i just looked because i posted in it and even under my profile it wasn't there...

[PaPa]

i know, i made a thread a few days ago saying wtf? whre did that thread go.

[PaPa]

anyways, i imported a 4x3 letterboxed file into a 16x9 project and uprezzed it with Instant HD

looks great in the editor but when i save the file, two things happen,.

i get the squeeze mode effect, i.e. the frme size is 4x3 but the footage has been stretched vertically to fit it, and the second thing is that all the footage has become jerky. why?

[UncleBenji1977]

I'm curious about PaPa's question as well... Anyone?

[PaPa]

anyone?

im having the worst luck when it comes to threads that i begin, and getting comments and replies. Maybe its a virus cause i sure as hell make a habbit of replying to everything i read.

[PaPa]

bump

[novelt]

papa...

i don't have instantHD, but i did try the photozoom and compared it next to resizing in paint shop pro and actually liked paint shop pro for 2 reasons 1)photozoom introduced grain 2)i didn't have to wait for a render with paint shop pro so if i batched process PSP would be faster than photozoom.

[scharky]

I'm also not a big fan of the so called "HD" software. I have done lots of tests of my personal work, and none have benefit whatsoever from photozoom or instant HD. In fact, I found that I could simulate both looks just by uprezzing the footage in vegas, and adjusting some sharpness controls, plus this works about 10x as fast.

[StormFactory]

I'm also not a big fan of the so called "HD" software. I have done lots of tests of my personal work, and none have benefit whatsoever from photozoom or instant HD. In fact, I found that I could simulate both looks just by uprezzing the footage in vegas, and adjusting some sharpness controls, plus this works about 10x as fast.Can you explain step by step how you are doing this in Vegas? I have Vegas 6. What are your sharpen settings? Project settings? Render? Ect. Thanks.

[scharky]

One thing I have found works really well in vegas is doing all of my color corrections/ effects in HD and then down sampling to SD for output. Therefore here is a normal workflow. Do linear edit of entire project with standard settings, lets say I'm working 16:9 24P, so I will use the 24P widescreen template in vegas. After all my basic editing is done I will then save the project, rename it and call the new one "name"CC. This project I will change the settings to a 720 24P template that I made. Basically I took the PAL 720 25P template that vegas already has and changed it to 23.976 fps. This will automatically upsample your footage to 720P. Here I will do all of my color corrections, especially any secondary color corrections. By applying a chroma blur filter and secondary color correction filter at a higher res, I personally feel that I can create a better key and tighten each color individually. THis is a step where I may also ad a very slight amount of "noise" . I have found that adding noise to 720P footage and then downsampling back to SD gives some footage a very filmic appearance, dissarming harsh edgeds but still remaining tack sharp after sharpening slightly at 720P. Finnaly I will render out a 720P intermediate "master" using the cineform template at Highest quality and matching project settings. This master is used then for any DVD or web rendering later, plus vegas works great with cineform so you can then preview in realtime with all the effects already applied.
Some people scoff at my workflow, as it really is a degradation of the original footage, but I feel that by degrading the footage in a controled manner, the footage ends up looking so much better. Hope this works out.

[vortex677]

I shot with a animoph lense and non leterbox 4x3 and it worked fine. So then i tryed letterbox and obtained the same problem. once i rendered uncompressed on premire everything was fine. I don't know if this answers ur question bro. I hope all works out for ya. I hate when stupid things like that happen.

[andybiz_2005]

Hi,

Do any of you know of tutorials on the Internet that shows how to convert your SD footage to HD footage using Adobe After Effects? I'm interested to know how to do it in After Effects as I currently don't have the budget to get the Instant HD plug-in.

I'm sure people have been upconverting from SD to HD even before Instant HD came on the scene. Please help. Thanks in advance. Btw, I did an extensive search on Google on "convert SD to HD" & all the relevant links point to Red Giant's Instant HD software. So, I couldn't find any software other than Red Giant's.

Andrew

[Kyle Stebbins]

I imagine you would do it the same way scharky does in vegas.

[PaPa]

know what? honestly, the problem i have with instant HD is that im only really using it to uprez 4x3 to 16X9.

Once i turn the sharpness up to 25, then i get something a bit higher in quality than the DVX's squeeze mode, however the footage is more noisy.

I just can't seem to find the balance or the quality that photozoom produces.
I can almost positively say that instandHD is far behind photozoom in terms of quality from the stills that ive seen.

i wonder if someone could do a side by side comparison of Squeeze mode, versus, Instant HD, versus photozoom for 16x9 footage, and then a nice side by side of 1080 instand HD and 1080 photozoom pro.