Wire Removal VFX

[iffy]

Any comments on what software might be right for this (wire removal). I have some knowledge of SHAKE W/FURNACE + MOKEY + AE W/CLEAN PLATE. Love to learn more from experts out there.

I have 2 shots = on is locked down, the other is moving handheld.

[Greggl]

Shake'd be my choice... make sure to shoot a clean plate, including the handheld... even if you have to do it in pieces and compare playback.

[Blaine]

Here's an example. I didn't have any wires to remove so I removed my body.

http://www.stickypod.com/videos/uploads/924/headandarmsonly-Sequence_1-H_264_800Kbps_Streaming.mov

This was done in Shake. I've had the program about a week.

So you can see that wire removal should be a snap.

[Greggl]

roto yor head, offset the matte, matte the top of the chair and comp in a shadow. Integrated shadows 'sell' vfx more than any other element.

[MiniMan13]

What would be the best non Apple program to do it in>?
(No Mac for me.)

[iffy]

Mokey = you gotta see to belive it. Or AE 7.0. Or if u can get your hand on an old Shake 2.5 for Windows NT.

[Shaw]

Shakre runs on Linux :)

[oneinfiniteloop]

Shakre runs on Linux :)

Yeah, and it's $5k...

[iffy]

2.5 does run on windows = xp or whatever. And if u know where to look, u can get it. It's an old copy.

[ulisses]

I use Fusion: www.eyeonline.com , it has a line removal tool in paint.

Ulisses

[peter orland]

G'day Gregg.


Integrated shadows 'sell' vfx more than any other element.

If you have the time could you explain in more detail what you mean by the above statement.

Thanks.

[Blaine]

G'day Gregg.



If you have the time could you explain in more detail what you mean by the above statement.

Thanks.
He was speaking to my clip. I used the clip to show how you could erase my body, as you would with wire removal. Gregg was kind enough to give me some advice as to how to make the effect I showed appear real. A floating head is going to cast a shadow. If it doesn't, it doesn't appear to be real. By applying a shadow in the manner he put forth, I could have made the effect look real or "sell it." And had I been trying to create a realistic effect, I definitely would have needed to put in shadow. Thanks to his explanation, it will be easier to do that. When it comes to Shake, I'm a n00b just beginning to learn it.

[peter orland]

Hi Blaine. Thanks for that.

How are you finding using Shake? Is it easy to learn? Are you teaching yourself via books or DVD's or are you taking some classes? Did you have a previous background knowledge in other FX programmes?

Thanks. From an even noober noob to the FX world.

[Blaine]

Well, Peter, I was beginning to get a handle on it but I've got 10,000 things pulling me in every direction right now, that I haven't done much on it recently. If you're using it, I would highly recommend: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321197259/sr=1-8/qid=1155428051/ref=sr_1_8/002-8816669-8593607?ie=UTF8&s=books It will give you an good handle on the basics and how to use the interface. It doesn't help a lot with the theory and what-not of compositing but at least it gives an excellent place to start.

When I was finished with the book I started looking around and realized, "Hey, there's a tutorial that actually came with the software." I started that then things got a little crazy for a while and I've yet to pick it back up. Now that I've more time, what am I doing? I'm wasting it on line. I gotta get a little self control :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Learning to use Shake really isn't that hard. It's got some really nice features that are helpful instantly like SmoothCam/Stabilizer. You still need to learn a lot about actual compositing, though, which would be the case with any software like this.

CaptainMench as got some tutorials here: http://web.mac.com/captmench/iWeb/Site/FCP%20Tutorials/FCP%20Tutorials.html if you want to see what it's like.