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curtisbouvier
06-29-2006, 03:00 AM
This is Not a gas blow back, however in my up coming project I will be using a hard kick desert eagle from TM.

Here is a slight example as to how you can get at least half decent recoil effects from a prop that doesn't have any type of blow back.

The slide staying to the rear was a simple camera trick with scene cropping =p.

Hope you guys like it.

copy and paste the link into a new window for it to download, clicking the link won't work.

http://curtisbouvier.tripod.com/p99skit1.zip (http://curtisbouvier.tripod.com/p99skit1.avi)

epplegacks
06-30-2006, 02:30 PM
A full tutorial on this would be very appreciated as I can't seem to step through it frame by frame with VLC and I don't know what "scene cropping" is.

Good job though really fantastic work.

curtisbouvier
07-01-2006, 03:03 PM
My method is probably the most bunk and time consuming believe it or not, I use nandub, to pull each frame out of the raw video, I save all frames as a bmp, I enter all those bmp files into Adobe Photoshop and that is where I paste the mussle flash in, with photoshop you simpley have more options than with adobe premier.

I save those images, and use adobe premier to insert them back into the Raw video (deleting the original frames I had taken out to edit obviously)

As for the slide staying to the REAR after the hand gun is empty lol, its a bit tricky to explain but very easy to do.

You film the entire clip as normal (scene1), and when the handgun is empty you do a full hand recoil movement as you normally would, (slide being forward). Thats where the video ends, we are now ready to film scene 2, that is where you put the slide to the rear, and film the Exact same scene over again(scene2). Scene 2 is only for the final firing shot.

now in adobe premier you simpley cut scene 1 about 3 frames after the final firing shot from the handgun, (basically scene 2 is gonna take over from where scene 1 left off at 3 frames past the final firing shot, you can experiment and try 1 frame or maybe even right after the muzzle flash) and that is where you insert scene 2 (you would have had to remove everything in scene 2 prior to the frame that continues the final video) so the 2 different scenes come together perfectly, after the final shot coming from the handgun, the video quickly changes to a new scene, but you don't notice because they are so identicle to 1 another....

When you film scene 2, just make damn sure your hand and firing movements are the same as where they were in scene 1, so when you enter scene 2 your handgun doesnt jump from 1 place to another revealing your camera trick.

hope this helps, like I said tho it's very easy once you practice it once.

curtisbouvier
07-01-2006, 03:03 PM
I have a full 8 minute movie with amazing machine gun and handgun effects, however it's 80 mb, any one wanna host it for me? =p

curtisbouvier
07-01-2006, 03:09 PM
as for the sound effects, you want to hear the slide LOCK a second after the final firing shot, unrealistic but it sure sounds good =D

epplegacks
07-01-2006, 08:45 PM
I'll have to remember that trick. And yeah that seems a little time consuming for something of feature length but still really ingenious as it look excellent.