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Matt Sconce
06-20-2006, 05:20 PM
http://www.eagleasda.com/Stricken-Final-Poster-GIF.gif
www.noariceprod.com/stricken SOUND FIXED 1.mov (http://www.noariceprod.com/stricken SOUND FIXED 1.mov)

http://www.edgenmusic.com/dvxuserhorrorfest/stricken%20SOUND%20FIXED%201.mov

"It's the only one that gave me chills and goosebumps. Very good Job Matt and crew!" -Aram Bauman
Budget 2400.00 and counting
Check page 51 for ALL screen grabs.
Watch BTS:
****Spoiler Alert****
http://www.eagleasda.com/Stricken_BTS_Quicktime_12_47_low_bitrate.mov

You too can have your film look like mine. Check out this section of my thread to see how:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?p=704517&posted=1#post704517



For Exhibition Only

UPDATE: 8/25/06

We have finished shooting and I have cut the first rough edit. It is very scary and contains the emotions I hoped it would. Below are some grabs and behind the scenes pictures. More are spread out throughout the thread. I hope to have a lockdown cut in two days to send to leo gardini for composition.

http://www.eagleasda.com/BTS_car.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_car_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_Ken_Stare_1_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Alyssa_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Ken_blood_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Alyssa_Hall_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_Cry_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_1_Steph_copy.jpg


Here is a link to BTS pictures of our shoot.

Warning "spoilers" on character development!


http://album.dvd-photo-slideshow.com/slides/guest/44f78de61d6/BTS_Final_StrickenDVX.html

Noise Removal Tutorial:

Step one, Export from Premiere Pro 2.0 in Uncompressed Filmstrip format for After Effects. Step two. Import into After Effects. Drop into a 23.976 composition. Set the composition several frames beyond what your clip length is. Apply Remove Grain. Change the viewing mode to final output, instead of preview. Fiddle with the Noise reduction slider under the noise reduction settings. Try to get a mix between the most detail and the smooth picture. If there is a ton of noise in the background that just seems to not go away, bring the slider down to about .2 and then enable temporal filtering. Set it to 100% and bring motion sensitivity to .9. Observe the results and then play with the noise reduction slider again until you achieve the look you want. It will make much more minor of a difference when temporal filtering is one, but it does help.

Output as an Uncompressed Quicktime or AVI format. NOT as a filmstrip again. For some reason if you export as an uncompressed filmstrip, it stretches the clip and makes it stuttery.

I hope this little tutorial helped!

gozone
06-21-2006, 07:45 AM
saweet man! can't wait to see it.......

Matt Sconce
06-21-2006, 01:20 PM
I am getting the headshots for potential actors this Saturday. It looks like casting will take place July 5th-9th. We'll see who shows up. I am hoping to have a ton of people to choose from. Fresno does not have a lot of film opportunities so it is possible I will have a large turnout. I will keep you posted as I keep going.

Matt Sconce
06-21-2006, 01:43 PM
:) I am excited that Leo Gardini has signed on to score Stricken. He was absolutely amazing in scoring Larry's Leap of Faith! I am now trying to lock down a restaurant location. I priced production insurance and it would be 1,700 for 8 day coverage (1 million liability, and 100,000 equipment coverage). Wow...definitely can't do that! Hopefully Orbitz, a privately owned restaurant here in Fresno, will let me shoot for advertising exchange and publicity. I'll write soon. -Matt

Matt Sconce
06-21-2006, 04:00 PM
I just want to invite any of you DVXusers in the Fresno, Clovis, or Madera, California area to get involved with this project. I think it would be fun to work together and actually meet face to face. :)

Kholi
06-21-2006, 05:41 PM
:) I am excited that Leo Gardini has signed on to score Stricken. He was absolutely amazing in scoring Larry's Leap of Faith! I am now trying to lock down a restaurant location. I priced production insurance and it would be 1,700 for 8 day coverage (1 million liability, and 100,000 equipment coverage). Wow...definitely can't do that! Hopefully Orbitz, a privately owned restaurant here in Fresno, will let me shoot for advertising exchange and publicity. I'll write soon. -Matt

That's a lot for production insurance. You can probably hunt around and find much better than that...

I got a weekend of production insurance, including equipment (1 mil policy + HVX + 35mm adapter etc ) for 300.00.

Good luck on your project.

Matt Sconce
06-21-2006, 06:09 PM
That's a lot for production insurance. You can probably hunt around and find much better than that...

I got a weekend of production insurance, including equipment (1 mil policy + HVX + 35mm adapter etc ) for 300.00.

Good luck on your project.

Hey that is pretty good. Was it from the L.A. Area? Thanks for the tip.

Matt Sconce
06-22-2006, 02:26 PM
I just posted my final poster up top. I tried to bring the reflection in the right eye slightly brighter so people would notice and lean in for a closer look.

Kholi
06-22-2006, 02:28 PM
Hey that is pretty good. Was it from the L.A. Area? Thanks for the tip.

Yeah, I got the quote in Los Angeles area. Have to find the information to the guy, again.

Matt Sconce
06-22-2006, 02:36 PM
Thanks Kholi!

xDisciplex
06-23-2006, 12:25 AM
Poster looks pretty tight -

Everytime I read Stricken I'm reminded of Disturbed's song. :thumbup:

Dario Nieva
06-23-2006, 11:03 AM
Oooh Awesome looking poster you got there.

Matt Sconce
06-23-2006, 02:38 PM
I was in an Irish Pub with my wife two nights ago, when she introduced me to the girl behind the bar. The girl was acting in the play Ohklahoma, with my wife, and is a very talented actor. I took one look at the girl, and saw my lead role staring back at me. It looks like she is interested and she will get back to me soon, as she is reading the script today. It is very exciting if she agrees to do this! I'll keep you posted.

Matt Sconce
06-24-2006, 02:17 PM
I was worried about a scene in Stricken where we need to be in a restaurant. I know we cannot afford production insurance and that it is hard to get them to open their doors for free. We were eating in Orbit Cafe the other day and I looked around and realized it would work perfectly. I found out the owner was on vacation and would be back in a few days, and so I left my number. A week went by and I had not heard anything so I drove by the cafe. I asked if the owner was there, and he was. The owner agreed to meet with me and, after hearing what we needed, okayed the project for free. He is a great guy! Now we have almost all the locations locked. We just need two more..... Just thought I would give you an update. I hope all your projects are coming together. -Matt

Brandon Rice
06-24-2006, 03:13 PM
awesome news!

Matt Sconce
06-25-2006, 03:59 PM
My Casting is next Saturday at 3:00pm YAY! I sifted through a lot of headshots, and I think I have a good group of actors coming. I am planning to have them performa 1 min or under monologue, some improv, and some reading from the script. Any suggestions for the casting process?

Bryan
06-25-2006, 11:52 PM
I just want to invite any of you DVXusers in the Fresno, Clovis, or Madera, California area to get involved with this project. I think it would be fun to work together and actually meet face to face. :)

Hey Matt, you need crew? I'd be happy to help out if I have the time. Fresno filmmakers gotta stick together, right?

So how've you been searching for actors in Fresno? I'm trying to cast a project myself right now (not for HorrorFest).

Matt Sconce
06-26-2006, 02:45 PM
Hey Bryan! I know Carollyn Devore who is casting agent around this area, and has a lot of talent at here fingertips. She has cast for free for us and is even allowing me to use her studio by the airport. So far so good. Check her out at www.devoretalent.com (http://www.devoretalent.com)

Other than that, my wife is the lead in Ohklahoma at Centerstage, so I am meeting a ton of great actors who will work for screen credit.

I think it would be awesome to help each other out. I'll send you a PM. By the way...Moses rocked!


Does anyone have any tips on casting procedures? Do you have the actors read monologues? do you have them improv, read lines, etc?

Matt Sconce
06-27-2006, 12:53 PM
Shooting schedule and Rehearsal Schedule locked into place. Auditioning for Lead today, all others are auditioning this Saturday. Have a friend who has a DVX100b and is going to be second camera operator! :)

darst
06-28-2006, 11:25 AM
Very cool, thanks for the constant updates too! A production diary is always an interesting read... (for me anyway)

Larry Rutledge
06-28-2006, 11:35 AM
Congratulations on scoring Leo for your score :) He is a true professional and will work very hard to give you the best music for your film :thumbsup:

Just don't wear him out, I intend to use him on some other projects soon :)

congrats on scoring the great locations too....for me that was the most difficult part of my HeroFest entry.

Matt Sconce
06-28-2006, 02:33 PM
Congratulations on scoring Leo for your score :) He is a true professional and will work very hard to give you the best music for your film :thumbsup:

Just don't wear him out, I intend to use him on some other projects soon :)

congrats on scoring the great locations too....for me that was the most difficult part of my HeroFest entry.

I am definitely excited leo is working with me!! I loved his music for "Leap of Faith".

:) I'll make sure we don't tire him out too. :)

Locations were a huge worry just because I have never tried to get a restaurant to let me film before. Terri, the owner of Orbit Cafe is a great guy and is not charging us a penny.

The auditioning for the lead went great. We have our lead. Her name is Stephanie French and she did really well. I believe she will bring what we needed to the part and she took direction very well. Here is her picture. She is very excited to be on board!
http://myspace-970.vo.llnwd.net/00298/07/97/298867970_l.jpg

The rest of the casting takes place on Saturday with some follow-ups afterward.

Matt Sconce
07-01-2006, 09:27 PM
We have cast almost all of our roles as of today and I am getting excited. We have some amazing talent in this one! We start rehearsals on the 8th.

Matt Sconce
07-05-2006, 10:05 PM
Casting the Last role tomorrow.

Matt Sconce
07-08-2006, 02:02 PM
We are cast and rolling! We have our first rehearsal tonight! We will do a read through and let everyone get to know eachother. Ordered the Micro35 adapter and a 50mm f/1.4 nikon lens today. We are rocking!

Matt Sconce
07-10-2006, 12:51 PM
Our first two rehearsals have done two things. The first thing they have done is make me really excited. our talent is great! The second thing they have done is make me extremely nervous. Our talent is wonderful and I don't want to mess anything up on my end.

Matt Sconce
07-10-2006, 06:54 PM
I'm Out.

Stricken has grown, and will continue to grow. It is coming along nicely. I am still making it, but will not be entering the Horror-Fest contest. It is getting big and pretty. Up to 10 minutes now and we will see where it ends up. I just bought all the special effects make-up so I am excited to start filming in August and have Leo compose a rockin and spooky score! Good luck all! Keep checking back at the webpage I just made to see its progress.
http://www.eagleasda.com/Strickenthemovie.html

spidey
07-15-2006, 12:51 PM
no outside sites for promotion i believes is one of the rules. only within. last time similo got disqualified because of that.

Matt Sconce
07-15-2006, 01:01 PM
no outside sites for promotion i believes is one of the rules. only within. last time similo got disqualified because of that.

In my above post, I said I was out. I am no longer in Horror fest in a competitive nature. I might enter a trailer just for fun. That is why I added the website address I made.

Spidey, your banners are awesome!

spidey
07-15-2006, 01:51 PM
ok making sure.

Matt Sconce
07-18-2006, 12:09 PM
Well, this is coming along great! Our two knives came in...the shard Chef Knife, and the plastic one that I hoped would work as a double for the fast moving scenes. I think they work! Als0, the wounds and special effects make-up came in! I have someone who is going to permanently be doing wardrobe for us, which takes some stress off, and the Micro35 adapter is coming soon. The 50mm f1.4 Nikon Lens is sitting by my computer and making me drool. i want to use it! Final schedules were given to the locations, and the optometrist made brown contacts for our little girl to match our lead.
Our website http://www.strickenthemovie.com is getting a lot of traffic.

Leo Gardini's work is amazing! If you have not gone to his site to listen to it, click on his name on our main page and check out his work. His piece "The ressurection of Jesus Christ" blew my mind. I am so excited he is on the project.

As soon as Nine to Five Ninja is up on the IMDB, I will be able to post the progress of Stricken.

I have a question for all of you out there. I have a lot of "flickering lightning" shadows and such when the actors are inside. How would you go about simulating these "off camera" lightning flashes to get that real feel? Would you do it post production or on set and how?

Thanks!

Brandon Rice
07-18-2006, 12:44 PM
cool stuff dude! Looking forward to your film!

R.L. Scott
07-19-2006, 11:30 AM
cool poster... it makes the imagination wonder. looking forward to learning more about the film.

Jack Daniel Stanley
07-23-2006, 11:55 AM
you gonna enter a trailer or suntin' for exhibition?
hope so.

Matt Sconce
07-23-2006, 02:54 PM
you gonna enter a trailer or suntin' for exhibition?
hope so.

I hope so!

Matt Sconce
07-25-2006, 03:35 PM
My lead Stephanie is awesome! Things are going well.

http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_1_fin.jpg


The Production notes can be scene here:
http://www.eagleasda.com/Strickenproductionnotes.html

And to forestall the comment I am sure I will get after posting this even though I have stated it numerous times. "I am not entering to compete in the Horror Fest." So it is okay that I have a website up. I will probably enter something for fun.
http://www.strickenthemovie.com

Brandon Rice
07-25-2006, 04:02 PM
looking forward to your film dude.

guydoingmusic
07-25-2006, 09:30 PM
Hey man! Enjoyed your Ninja movie for Herofest! From the look of the poster, this one looks promising. Can't wait to see it!

Brad

Matt Sconce
07-26-2006, 05:29 PM
CRAZINESS! :eek:

Our Lead for the Father just had a blood clot near his heart and almost died. He is in the hospital and is out of the game for the shoot. He is a great guy and only 23, and in great shape. It is so sad for him. :crybaby:

This leaves us casting a new father. We have already had all the rehearsals for those scenes so this will get interesting. We do have a great actor in mind though, so at least that is okay.

Talk to you all soon -Matt

Oh, and that is me in the middle of the picture on the bottom of our cast page:
http://www.eagleasda.com/Strickencast.html

Brett's the guy in trouble. please keep in in your thoughts or prayers.

Jack Daniel Stanley
07-26-2006, 08:06 PM
Sorry to hear that.
Wish you and your actor the best of luck.

Brandon Rice
07-26-2006, 09:40 PM
Good luck man... I understand your pain on casting mishaps... had a few people bail on us for some non-speaking roles in our last film... we were able to make do, and I am sure you'll find a way!

Matt Sconce
07-27-2006, 12:15 PM
CRAZINESS! :eek:

Our Lead for the Father just had a blood clot near his heart and almost died. He is in the hospital and is out of the game for the shoot. He is a great guy and only 23, and in great shape. It is so sad for him. :crybaby:

This leaves us casting a new father. We have already had all the rehearsals for those scenes so this will get interesting. We do have a great actor in mind though, so at least that is okay.

Talk to you all soon -Matt

Oh, and that is me in the middle of the picture on the bottom of our cast page:
http://www.eagleasda.com/Strickencast.html

Brett's the guy in trouble. please keep in in your thoughts or prayers.


Brett is doing better now. He will have to have two ribs removed, as they discovered he had two too many and that the ribs were putting pressure on the arteries. He will have surgery the 21st.

Our other actor is onboard and is really good, so things will go okay.

Brandon Rice
07-27-2006, 12:22 PM
Good to hear that news... I have never heard of such a thing ever! Crazy... well, best of luck.

MOVIE STUNTS
07-31-2006, 12:30 AM
I think your poster is wicked!!!!

Matt Sconce
07-31-2006, 01:31 AM
Thanks! We start filming August 18th and should be wrapped by the 22nd. I just had an awesome time at the AOF festival. I got to train with Ninja Master Sephen K. Hayes and sit in at the showing of Nine to Five Ninja. I loved meeting the guys from DVXuser. Congrats to Brandon Rice for his movie taking best supporting actress in a short. And congrats to Smithhouse for his win with Vigilantes! I also must say that Blaine's film was great!

I will be entering Striken for the next AOF and a hopefully kick everyone's butt with a feature action film. I have it in the works and it is looking very good.

Here is a picture of my two stunt guys/ninjas and I at the AOF Festival.
http://myspace-744.vo.llnwd.net/00987/44/78/987918744_l.jpg


Here is a picture of us with the real Ninja Master Stephen K. Hayes. It was mind blowing being in the same room with the guy. He and his wife are the real deal.
http://myspace-006.vo.llnwd.net/00987/60/02/987982006_l.jpg

MOVIE STUNTS
07-31-2006, 01:58 AM
You should get Steven to coreograph(sp) your fight scenes... I'm jealous... I want to meet Steven I love Ninja's.

Matt Sconce
07-31-2006, 05:04 PM
Hey guys! Tonight is my second to last rehearsals with the actors. It is rehearsing the biggest scene we have so we will see how it goes. The m35 adapter comes in tomorrow. Leo Gardini has inspired me to try and compose some things for future stuff. I figure if I learn now, maybe in a year, I can be scoring my own films.

It is all done on Reason 3 for PC and I have had the program for two days.

http://www.myspace.com/mattsconce

Matt Sconce
08-01-2006, 05:40 PM
The M35 adapter is in! I am going to experiment a bit and let you know what I think!

Mark Johnson
08-02-2006, 10:26 AM
Post some of your M35 tests if you can, dude.

Matt Sconce
08-02-2006, 12:00 PM
Post some of your M35 tests if you can, dude.
Will do. I am having issues exporting to a small file with quicktime from Premier Pro 2. Everytime I do, it appears 4:3. As soon as I work it out, I will put some up.

Brandon Rice
08-02-2006, 12:27 PM
I'd most definitely like to see some test footage as well!

Matt Sconce
08-02-2006, 05:20 PM
I'd most definitely like to see some test footage as well!

This is the first thing I did with the M35 so it is not creative at all. I did not have the detail high enough in the camera. I will be doing some lighing tests and will post that footage later. It should be much more beneficial.http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1154560592.wmv

I need someone who can host stuff that is 40-120 mb to really show some nice samples.

Brandon Rice
08-02-2006, 05:22 PM
that adapter sure has a sweet look to it.

Matt Sconce
08-02-2006, 06:02 PM
that adapter sure has a sweet look to it.
I agree...more AWESOME footage will be up tonight of my dog chillin out by a tree. I shot it with a 50mm f1.4. My settings were
Detail +7
VDetail+7
Detail Coring+7
Color Temp -3 and then the normal setting for F5. I shot it in letterbox. We will see how it comes out. Check back tonight!

Matt Sconce
08-02-2006, 08:23 PM
UPDATE!!!!
I got my M35 Adapter For the Movie Shoot! Here are two stills from a test shoot and a WMV file of the new updated test.

http://www.eagleasda.com/Bruce_1.1.gif

http://www.eagleasda.com/Bruce2.1.gif




Watch Sample!!!
http://www.eagleasda.com/M2_Test_Petsmart.mov
All Outdoor Dog Settings:
I shot it with a 50mm Nikon f/1.4. My settings were
Detail +7
VDetail+7
Detail Coring+7
Color Temp -3 and then the normal setting for F5. I shot it in letterbox.

All Indoor, I forgot to set the detail high, but it still looks nice. So Indoor shots are just the F5 setting.


Screen shots from Lighting Diagrams will be done next week.

This is also updated on my first page.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-02-2006, 10:51 PM
looks good buddy :thumbsup:

Matt Sconce
08-03-2006, 12:14 AM
An update on the storyboard. I am almost half way through. It is amazing to me that storyboarding is directing. I am planning my angles, lines, framing etc. I never really thought about it before, but this is incredibly complex. I want to make this a work of art, and make sure I take the time on it. It is looking good! I will post more updates as i go.

Brandon Rice
08-03-2006, 12:29 AM
Yeah, those shots are lookin' real nice there!

Matt Sconce
08-03-2006, 01:04 AM
Yeah, those shots are lookin' real nice there!

Thanks Brandon. That means a lot coming from you. I must say that the trailer for Smuggler's Ransom was awesome and inspiring to me. I thought it rocked. Do any of you DVX'ers out there know any "Ghetto monitors" that I could use to help me pull focus? Would a 18 inch normal television work? have any of you ever used a T.v Before? Anyway. I will keep you all updated as I go. -Matt

Oh, our website has been updated:
http://www.strickenthemovie.com

Brandon Rice
08-03-2006, 01:13 AM
Thanks for the kind words Matt! I am very happy you enjoyed the trailer.

In regard to monitors. If all you're looking for is something to help you focus, I'd say a normal TV would work fine. If you're looking for lighting and color, I'd pick up a production monitor.

MOVIE STUNTS
08-03-2006, 02:04 AM
That m35 adapter does wonders.

Matt Sconce
08-03-2006, 02:24 AM
That m35 adapter does wonders.

Definitely! I am amazed! The support through the forums is also amazing. What a great way to handle it!

Matt Sconce
08-04-2006, 02:44 AM
I am on the 72nd frame of my storyboard. Woo! this is hard stuff....but fun of course.

Matt Sconce
08-04-2006, 03:33 PM
:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) I have cool news! Because of Nine to Five Ninja and Stricken, and my myspace page, I was accepted as an official director on the only Martial Artist Casting Website, I've ever seen. I met the owner at Action On Film Festival, and now will be able to cast from this pool of amazing martial artists with demo reels, etc. Check it out!
http://www.martialartsplayers.com/

Brandon Rice
08-04-2006, 03:35 PM
Awesome stuff... great in there for ya!

SLIDEentertainment
08-04-2006, 03:39 PM
That's awesome man!!Cool stuff! Great poster too, I'm new here so ...I look forward to see your work!

TREY

Our poster's coming soon! SLIM'S REVENGE http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=66351

Matt Sconce
08-04-2006, 10:19 PM
Well, I finally got my LCD hooked up and my Micro35 and then basked in the glorious beauty of my DVX......:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

I love this camera and I have been working on this setup for a while. I think, after figuring out a way to follow focus....I will be ready on the 18th to film Stricken. Here is my Setup. It is a Nikon 50mm f/1.4 lens.

http://www.eagleasda.com/Cam_4.jpg

http://www.eagleasda.com/Cam_2.jpg

I am focusing on finishing the storyboard now. About 70% done.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-04-2006, 10:24 PM
Sweet.
look for indie follow focus
(universal gear and about $150 or less I think)
EDIT ... also I see you have redrock ... they have something on their site for $150 as well.

Ben Sliker
08-04-2006, 11:19 PM
holy christ, what a beast, kinda makes you think differently about "handheld" shots eh? Regardless, looks sweet.

Matt Sconce
08-05-2006, 01:25 AM
Sweet.
look for indie follow focus
(universal gear and about $150 or less I think)
EDIT ... also I see you have redrock ... they have something on their site for $150 as well.

I looked for the follow focuses at those prices. ARRG!! I think the Indie is 299.00 and the Redrock is 645.00! :crybaby: Let me know if there are follow focuses lurking for less, because I will buy them! And , this definitely is a beast, but oh the beauty it captures.... :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Drew Ott
08-05-2006, 01:32 AM
There are some neat DIY follow-focuses that seem to be usable (though don't look quite as cool).

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-05-2006, 01:39 AM
I looked for the follow focuses at those prices. ARRG!! I think the Indie is 299.00 and the Redrock is 645.00! :crybaby: Let me know if there are follow focuses lurking for less, because I will buy them! And , this definitely is a beast, but oh the beauty it captures.... :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) yep you're right.
I was looking at the price for one of the gears for the redrock, but the indie is the way to go since the gear is universal I think (but you are right on that price too)

But no worries. I shot ODD Squad and Bone Hand with a 35mm adaptor and no follow focus.

For tough scenes with camera movement we put white camera labelling tape around the lens focus ring and marked 1, 2, or 3 points of focus with a sharpie, then an assistant would turn it to the right mark while I operated the fig rig.

Also you can set focus for the second point, put your hand in that position and then rack back to the 1st point. Now your hand is an awkward, less comfortable position than it will be when it moves to the second point. The idea is to use your own body ergonomics to remember the second point. if you set the first point, and then the second and then let go you have no reference for the second point, i.e. the point you need to rack to. Once your hand is in this easy second position, harder first position, you can practice the rack back and forth.

Only real downside IMO of not having the follow focus is that there is no hard stop. But an assistant can easily move the focus ring to a hash mark on cue and you can get good results with the ergonomic/eyeball method as well or even using hash marks yourself if you don't have to worry about keeping things in frame, like for a lock down shot. :thumbsup:

Matt Sconce
08-05-2006, 01:42 AM
yep you're right.
I was looking at the price for one of the gears for the redrock, but the indie is the way to go since the gear is universal I think (but you are right on that price too)

But no worries. I shot ODD Squad and Bone Hand with a 35mm adaptor and no follow focus.

For tough scenes with camera movement we put white camera labelling tape around the lens focus ring and marked 1, 2, or 3 points of focus with a sharpie, then an assistant would turn it to the right mark while I operated the fig rig.

Also you can set focus for the second point, put your hand in that position and then rack back to the 1st point. Now your hand is an awkward, less comfortable position than it will be when it moves to the second point. The idea is to use your own body ergonomics to remember the second point. if you set the first point, and then the second and then let go you have no reference for the second point, i.e. the point you need to rack to. Once your hand is in this easy second position, harder first position, you can practice the rack back and forth.

Only real downside IMO of not having the follow focus is that there is no hard stop. But an assistant can easily move the focus ring to a hash mark on cue and you can get good results with the ergonomic/eyeball method as well or even using hash marks yourself if you don't have to worry about keeping things in frame, like for a lock down shot. :thumbsup:

Hmmm...That's some good stuff! Thanks Jack!

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-05-2006, 01:44 AM
Watch, now you'll beat me you bastid :cheesy:

Matt Sconce
08-05-2006, 09:12 AM
Watch, now you'll beat me you bastid :cheesy:


:violent5: Har Har! Good thing I'm not competing eh? No, even if I was...you are tough guy to beat.

Matt Sconce
08-05-2006, 05:32 PM
Better M2 Test. Here is a Large test I did at a local Petsmart. My wife and I were at Puppy training school and I brought my whole setup...people gave us some interesting looks! The Exterior shots were filmed on a different day and with high Detail levels, but the other are just stock DVX100b F5 with a M2 Adapter.
http://www.eagleasda.com/M2_Test_Petsmart.mov

SLIDEentertainment
08-06-2006, 08:36 AM
Test shots Look GREAT!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/slatons2/SLIMSbanner.jpg
SLIDEentertainment

RDragonFilms
08-06-2006, 02:48 PM
Thanks for the post in our thread : )I was looking at your s and without reading thought the dog was in it hehee. I'm so slow today! Best of luck on your casting and shooting! Can't wait to see what you have up your sleev this goround!

Matt Sconce
08-06-2006, 10:37 PM
I will be shooting some scene lighting tests Tuesday and Thursday. I will post some of them when they are done.

Matt Sconce
08-08-2006, 02:08 AM
Storyboards are done!!! 134 shots planned!

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-08-2006, 10:26 AM
and we're not seeing at least some of them because .... why? :)

Matt Sconce
08-08-2006, 01:19 PM
and we're not seeing at least some of them because .... why? :)

Well...Probably because as an artist....I suck! I guess I shouldn't let that stop me! Woohoo! I will go crazy and post some of my horrid drawings so you can see! I use them as a reference point for the shot, and when I work with the camera, the shots come together. Okay...hold on to your hats, because storyboard pictures are coming! :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

Jared Meyer
08-08-2006, 01:21 PM
Dude, if I posted my crap drawings, you can too. They can't be any worse. :)

Looking forward to seeing them.

VersuS
08-08-2006, 01:45 PM
I have never done storyboards, I tried drawing, I tried software...I always end up with hunderds of kilobytes of word documents and excel sheets and notepads just planning my ideas written and then of course we start shooting and we're like 'hmmmm ok so you come through the door...and oops I dont like this shot...go back again' LOL ;-)

Mark Johnson
08-08-2006, 03:14 PM
C'mon! Let's see 'em! It's always great to see how different people work and how they get from point A to point B.

And Jaustere, I loved your drawings!!

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-08-2006, 03:55 PM
*jeopardy theme*

Matt Sconce
08-09-2006, 03:23 AM
Here are some Storyboards. This is the best I do, so I hope they are understandable.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114413.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114445.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114470.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114490.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114521.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114540.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114560.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114580.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155114603.jpg



Well, there are some storyboards from Stricken. I just realized I jumped number from frame 33 to 36. I must have thought the 33 was a 35 when I was numbering them. I will post some test shots from location soon.

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 09:22 AM
So, how many total shots do you have?

Bryan
08-09-2006, 12:57 PM
Hey Matt. It's great to see everything is progressing along nicely with your film!

If you are still in need, I'd be happy to help out on the set in whatever way.

Matt Sconce
08-09-2006, 02:10 PM
So, how many total shots do you have?
Counting that I skipped some number back at 33, I have 132 Shots! :)

Jared Meyer
08-09-2006, 02:14 PM
Cool storyboards! I read through each one, and I'm intrigued :)

Matt Sconce
08-09-2006, 02:19 PM
I need some of you guys color grading expertise. Below, I have posted some lighting test one of the Junior Highers in my Youth Group helped me with. He is not in the movie, but he is the subject for the tests. The first pictures of each set are before CC and the next are with the Berlin Magic Bullet Filter applied. That is the look I am going for, but Berlin puts a lot of Noise into the image. Can anyone attempt some CC on the before pics that pulls off a similar look as the Berlin, but does not add noise?

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155154252.jpg
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155154268.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155154284.jpg
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155154303.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155154395.jpg
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155154422.jpg


Thanks guys! Lighting tips would help too! I am lighting them with two 75 watt bulb and a 130 watts in a soft box pointed up at them. Should I throw more light?

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 02:26 PM
I'd check your white balance Matt. I think it may be off in these test shots... the light looks REALLY orange.

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 02:30 PM
Ok, here's a try... I desaturated it a bit, took out some red... brought the black level down a bit. Seems there is inherent grain in the image already, may be because of the adapter.

http://www.noariceprod.com/cc.jpg

Jared Meyer
08-09-2006, 02:35 PM
Brandon:

I think Matt's cc'ed versions are much more interesting. His originals look like horror film grabs, whereas your version just looks generic...

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 02:37 PM
I tried to maintain as much clarity as possible, while getting the desaturated feel.

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 02:40 PM
Maybe you're going more for something like this?

http://www.noariceprod.com/cc2.jpg

Matt Sconce
08-09-2006, 03:19 PM
This is awesome guys! Thanks! Hey Brandon, I totally forgot to White balance. ARG! What a goof up especially when I am supposed to be testing for the actual shots. :furious3:
I just realized why there might be so much grain...I have the detail and V detail set at +5. Even though I have the Detail Coring set to +7, I think the details levels may be enhancing the noise...What do you think?

So, these are the conclusions I am coming to at the moment. Lower the detail level, white balance, pump more light at the subjects (one more 150 watt), so I have more info to work with. I am going to mess with some settings and see if I can use a setting to get a similar effect without the noise. Thank you very much for helping!

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 03:23 PM
This is awesome guys! Thanks! Hey Brandon, I totally forgot to White balance. ARG! What a goof up especially when I am supposed to be testing for the actual shots. :furious3:
I just realized why there might be so much grain...I have the detail and V detail set at +5. Even though I have the Detail Coring set to +7, I think the details levels may be enhancing the noise...What do you think?

So, these are the conclusions I am coming to at the moment. Lower the detail level, white balance, pump more light at the subjects (one more 150 watt), so I have more info to work with. I am going to mess with some settings and see if I can use a setting to get a similar effect without the noise. Thank you very much for helping!

haha, no problem man, I thought that might be an issue. Anyway, I think your idea may work, I think mess around with those settings, write them down, shoot the same shot, choose which settings you like after comparing them. And yeah, pump more light into the shot! Those 35mm adapters suck the light like nobody's business.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-09-2006, 03:41 PM
you need more light and to crank your master ped way down
you'll get less noise and still have the shadows roll off into black

Most people say shoot as wide open as you can so that you are getting as much light as possible into the camera to minimize noise.

Some say you always want to shoot with aperature around 4 or 5 because that is the sweet spot for the leica lens for maximum sharpness.

But its best to use more light and throw on the ND filters if you have to and crank the master ped down. In post experiment with crushing the blacks further using proc amp or bleach bypass or color corrector or brightness contrast bezier.

Also since you forgot to white balance you have a lot red. Red is the most artifacty and noisey color for the DVX and does not render well in NTSC (or film) so that is adding noise to your original footage as well.

Look at the back wall and you will see the noise is identical. When you are applying the filter it's just correcting a littel for the under exposed image and you can see the noise more in the skin tone.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-09-2006, 03:43 PM
Do you have the Zombie Fest DVD?

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 03:46 PM
Jack's the main man for this kind of thing. He's worked with adapters before too. I haven't... and I shoot with my Master Ped way high, not low, so don't listen to me :)

Matt Sconce
08-09-2006, 03:51 PM
Do you have the Zombie Fest DVD?

Yeah I have the Zombie Fest DVD, but somebody has "borrowed it" which means I hope I get it back! I watched it all though. Thanks for the amazing tips! When you mean Master Ped way down, how far do you go without adding noise. I am shooting with mine at -7. Also, with the adapter in Bonehand, what were your detail levels, V detail, and Detail coring set at? Thanks so much Jack!


Jack's the main man for this kind of thing. He's worked with adapters before too. I haven't... and I shoot with my Master Ped way high, not low, so don't listen to me :)

Do you shoot with it high to help CCing in AVID? Thanks for the help!

Brandon Rice
08-09-2006, 04:03 PM
Do you shoot with it high to help CCing in AVID? Thanks for the help!

I suppose you could say that. I like to preserve as much detail in every part of the image (including dark spots) as possible, and then crush the blacks in post. Most of my definition work is in post... When looking at my raw footage it looks pretty flat (though the actors are generally standing out from the BG)

Matt Sconce
08-10-2006, 01:17 AM
Here are some more filter tests. Which one do you think works for a horror short and why? They are some of the looks I am considering for several of the shots in Stricken. Thanks in advance!!!

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155193952.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155193892.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155193936.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155193919.jpg

Slimothy
08-10-2006, 01:19 AM
I like the third the best.

Brandon Rice
08-10-2006, 01:50 AM
absolutely agreed!

VersuS
08-10-2006, 03:14 AM
well the second seems more blade runnerish...i like the last one as well but I think the third one works best..it also depends what kind of horror movie you re going to be using it in.....

Matt Sconce
08-10-2006, 12:26 PM
well the second seems more blade runnerish...i like the last one as well but I think the third one works best..it also depends what kind of horror movie you re going to be using it in.....

It will be in a horror movie about a woman who thinks she is being haunted by her dead father...or is she losing her mind? That is the premise. I am starting to lean toward the third one as well, but I am torn. I really like the look of the second too. Hmmmm.

VersuS
08-10-2006, 03:10 PM
You know...filters and generally the colors you use...should (or so they say) portray certain things. Look 'eyes wide shut' for example. The blue and red are used so well to portray things like jealousy etc. You can also use different filters during the movie depending on what you want to show...for example...the character is living a dream..change the filter....or....the character is having a mental breakdown....So what I'm saying is that you can use a neutral filter for the whole movie and experiment with others in various places (but it's a 6' project so you might not have all that time to move from one filter to the other).

But as for the second one...it's very 'strong'. So if you use it then have in mind that a filter like that clearly puts the viewer in a certain kind of mood. While filters like the third...may put you in a certain mood but you are not hang up on the image but stay focused in the story (the image/filter works subconsciously).

I hope all of the above made some sense :)

Matt Sconce
08-11-2006, 04:00 PM
Whew! Finally finished my shot list. I am concerned about two shots in particular. The mirror effects scene I have to do and the rain scene. We will see how they go. We shoot on the 18th.

g0ldenb0y55
08-11-2006, 05:13 PM
It will be in a horror movie about a woman who thinks she is being haunted by her dead father...or is she losing her mind? That is the premise. I am starting to lean toward the third one as well, but I am torn. I really like the look of the second too. Hmmmm.

I personally like the third one. But the second one gives more of that empty cold horror feel. It's starting to grow on me as well. Just my 2 cents.

Matt Sconce
08-11-2006, 06:09 PM
Here is another test screenshot, attempting to get the right feel with lighting. I used more light in this test and clicked the ND filter on.
What do you think?

Original:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155341447.jpg

Shot 1:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155341012.jpg

Shot 2:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155341036.jpg

Shot 3:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155341059.jpg

Shot 4:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155341077.jpg

Shot 5:
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155341093.jpg

Thanks!

Brandon Rice
08-11-2006, 06:12 PM
shot 3!!!!!

Blaine
08-11-2006, 06:21 PM
Gee, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to do. But it's absolutely impossible to answer you question without the context in which the grabs are taken. And unfortunately that might go beyond the rules. And even if it didn't, I can't imagine someone wanting to "give away" that information. :undecided

But to answer which looks better, just on a visual level, regardless of intent, I'd have to say I like shot 1 and 4 about equally. Of course, those images may not gel with the mood you're trying to create. :thumbsup:

Matt Sconce
08-11-2006, 07:30 PM
Gee, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to do. But it's absolutely impossible to answer you question without the context in which the grabs are taken. And unfortunately that might go beyond the rules. And even if it didn't, I can't imagine someone wanting to "give away" that information. :undecided

But to answer which looks better, just on a visual level, regardless of intent, I'd have to say I like shot 1 and 4 about equally. Of course, those images may not gel with the mood you're trying to create. :thumbsup:

Blaine, I am not in the competition. I am entering for fun and my project will probably be over 20 min. I will probably enter a short bit for people to watch. Thank you for letting my know which had the best value visually. That is what I am trying to figure out. As for people not wanting to "give away" info, I do not want to pressure anyone, I simply want to make my movie the best it can be for festivals and such and I really value all of your opinions. Since I am not in the contest, here is the context. (A little girl has just walked down the hall wondering where her daddy is. She opens the bathroom door to find him disposing of a body that is in the bath tub He is insane. He lunges at her. She is wearing a very innocent bright outfit. The father is in a black cloak and the scene is gory and juxtaposed to the sweet girl. It is the event that shapes the girls future.) I hope that helps a bit. Thanx everyone!

Blaine
08-11-2006, 07:35 PM
Blaine, I am not in the competition. I am entering for fun and my project will probably be over 20 min. I will probably enter a short bit for people to watch. Thank you for letting my know which had the best value visually. That is what I am trying to figure out. As for people not wanting to "give away" info, I do not want to pressure anyone, I simply want to make my movie the best it can be for festivals and such and I really value all of your opinions. Since I am not in the contest, here is the context. (A little girl has just walked down the hall wondering where her daddy is. She opens the bathroom door to find him disposing of a body that is in the bath tub He is insane. He lunges at her. She is wearing a very innocent bright outfit. The father is in a black cloak and the scene is gory and juxtaposed to the sweet girl. It is the event that shapes the girls future.) I hope that helps a bit. Thanx everyone!
In that case, I think I'd definitely go for #4. I think the coloring that one will play better with her white dress and the red of the gore. Just my opinion, though. :)

Matt Sconce
08-11-2006, 09:58 PM
Awesome Blaine Thanks for the opinion! After shooting the 18th-22nd, I will post some stills from the production.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Way to go. See the way the noise fell off when you get more information to the sensors ... Also there is just more dynamic range in these than the other shots which had kind of a middle to dark range.

that's also why I like #1 the best ... there's the most variation from the brightest bright to the darkest dark and eve some good chroma varation in the skin with the pink creeping in.

My second choice would be #4.

Matt Sconce
08-11-2006, 10:32 PM
Way to go. See the way the noise fell off when you get more information to the sensors ... Also there is just more dynamic range in these than the other shots which had kind of a middle to dark range.

that's also why I like #1 the best ... there's the most variation from the brightest bright to the darkest dark and eve some good chroma varation in the skin with the pink creeping in.

My second choice would be #4.


I love those two tests also. I guess it will depend on the scene. I want to make sure that I don't change so much that my CC becomes the focus. I want to be consistent in the feel of the movie....hmmm.... Now I am deciding on the knife for the killer. I like the reflection the Chef's knife gives me, but the raw, rough metal and shape of the handmade knife is pretty cool and original....Here are the knives up for the Killer's weapon.
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1155356543.jpg

I appreciate the support and insight you guys give me. I am nervous about the shooting dates, as I want everything to go perfect after this much preproduction and the actors being so excited. I will keep you updated.

Blaine
08-11-2006, 10:36 PM
While that old knife looks cool, I think that since this is happening in the home, it might be more likely that he'd be using the chef's knife. And there's A LOT to be said for the great reflections.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-11-2006, 10:37 PM
use both?
One in each hand, or both tucked in the belt?
Or the weird one is his steady until he looses it and has to improvise with the found Chef's kife?

The glint reads real nice on camera ... but the grunge is s good aesthetic ... I see your dilimma ... juts pick the one that servers the moment best

Matt Sconce
08-11-2006, 10:40 PM
While that old knife looks cool, I think that since this is happening in the home, it might be more likely that he'd be using the chef's knife. And there's A LOT to be said for the great reflections.


use both?
One in each hand, or both tucked in the belt?
Or the weird one is his steady until he looses it and has to improvise with the found Chef's kife?

The glint reads real nice on camera ... but the grunge is s good aesthetic ... I see your dilimma ... juts pick the one that servers the moment best

See, that is why I love you guys! I NEVER thought of either of those points or ideas. Cool...good food for thought.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-12-2006, 08:48 AM
It's my duty, to please that booty. :costumed-smiley-047

Matt Sconce
08-13-2006, 01:35 AM
It's my duty, to please that booty. :costumed-smiley-047
Lol! We have our dress rehearsal for the restaurant scene on the 16th...Soon Soon Soon! More lighting test on location tomorrow.

R.L. Scott
08-13-2006, 01:40 AM
I like the second and the third best.

Matt Sconce
08-15-2006, 06:01 PM
We start shooting Friday. I walked through the restaurant today to make sure my storyboards worked. it is looking good. We just got the name tags back from Ace Trophy for the waitresses. I checked on when the lights in the parking lot by the restaurant came on so I could take that into consideration. Final lighting tests of two KEY areas tonight.

Brandon Rice
08-15-2006, 06:02 PM
Good luck dude, looking forward to the film! Be sure to post some screenshots up! :)

VersuS
08-15-2006, 08:33 PM
Great shot! I would say that shot 1 would look good if it was a vampire film like night watch (oh what a great movie). Shot 2 is more like 24, action....Shot5 is pretty sick! I like this one!

griffin
08-15-2006, 11:46 PM
I like shots 3 & 4 the best. 3 out weighing 4 but both look really good. Use both knives if you can. If not, go with which ever one you think fits best. If the guy is a little crazy than go w/ the unordinary knife. If it's something grabbed quickly or whatever, than go w/ the normal kitchen knife. Whatever one fits the actors personality better.

Matt Sconce
08-16-2006, 02:51 PM
Here is a test lighting shot of the hallway. The little girl (who is not the girl in the test) is walking toward the bathroom where a killer waits.

Any suggestions from those of you who have had to light something like this? I am trying to make it seem dark, but still have enough info reach the sensors to prevent noise. Oh, the vignetting you see on the left was because I forgot to take a spacer off. *Sigh*

http://www.eagleasda.com/girl_hall_2_copy.jpg

Brandon Rice
08-16-2006, 02:59 PM
more light, more light... you can always darken more in post...

Matt Sconce
08-16-2006, 05:08 PM
more light, more light... you can always darken more in post...

How would you put more light into the hallway and still get the light coming from under the door look? Thanks!

Brandon Rice
08-16-2006, 05:10 PM
hit a light at the left side of the wall.... and maybe, use a light with a filter on it, or one that's a different color temperature, so the light under the door still stands out.

NSumner
08-16-2006, 05:20 PM
Things still going well?! :)

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-16-2006, 05:42 PM
How would you put more light into the hallway and still get the light coming from under the door look? Thanks!get your copy of the Zombie Fest DVD back from your friend and watch shed BTS :)

Mark Johnson
08-16-2006, 05:45 PM
Please don't consider this being petty, but I see you have set up an external web site for your film and I think that violates the rules:


Film's can only be promoted here at dvxuser inside your own unique threads. No external site(s) or link's are permitted (Unless a video or image host) Like the indiviual film discussion's, we will have the same for the Horrorfest films.

I only mention this because I recall at least one filmmaker who had a really cool site had to pull it down for this reason. Anyway, if the rules have changed please overlook my comment.

Otherwise, I like your grab a lot but I agree with Brandon that you will have more to work with if you add more light, which will allow you to go for more of a contrasty look in post that often works nicely in the horror genre.

***

AND I totally agree that watching SHED should be required viewing. Damn, I watch that thing almost every day and still can't believe Jack lit it with such a simple kit.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-16-2006, 05:53 PM
Haha I'll respond for Matt since this is probably driving him nuts ...
He's only entering for exhibition ... not to compete.

Hey Matt maybe put that under your banner and in the first post "exhibition premiere Horrorfest 06" or something, cuz almost nobody will read all 14+ pages and I'm sure you'll keep hearing it.

Mark your not being petty at all. Rules are rules and one of the biggest favors you can do someone is let them know about something that could DQ them before its too late. And believe me if a film does well, any skeletons in its closet will get PMed to Jarred about 50 times a day during the festival. Posts like yours help the competing filmmakers keep their closet skeleton free :thumbsup:

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-16-2006, 05:57 PM
...AND I totally agree that watching SHED should be required viewing. Damn, I watch that thing almost every day and still can't believe Jack lit it with such a simple kit.
Haha thanks ... but I don't think you've seen the BTS ... I gotta get that online since the DVD is no longer in release ... but you can see the room is lit as bright as a country day ...

Mark Johnson
08-16-2006, 05:59 PM
HA HA HA! Thanks Jack! Jeez, maybe I should read these threads from the top!!! Sorry Matt! I'm delighted you are exhibiting this little gem here and even more delighted you aren't going to be walking away with the HVX!

And Jack, I didn't see where I could order the DVD on your site. Is it possible?

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-16-2006, 06:04 PM
Well maybe he'll change his mind, in which case he's gotta get his site down ... and in which case we can all worry cuz Matt's got mad skilly.

....

I'm talking about the Zombie Fest DVD which had like 60 Zombie films on it from the DVXuser Zombie FEst which was last October and is no longer available (out of print).

I've never sold any DVD's from my site, but I suppose I should put something together incase a few relatives and such wanna buy one :)

but like I said I keep meaning to put the BTS for Shed online for free so you can download and watch ... maybe I'll get to it here in a few ...

Matt Sconce
08-16-2006, 06:05 PM
Hey guys! I appreciate everything you are helping me with. Tonight is the restauraunt dress rehearsal so I am stressing. I am going to run through each shot on the list full dress and hopefully final lighting. This gives me thursday to mess with it and see what I want to change for the actual filming on Friday. Sadly, the one thing I do not have are gels, and no where around here sells them. I want the light at the end of the hall to stand out and love the idea of shooting a light off the wall in a different color, but do not know how to go about it. Any ideas that have worked for you? I am thinking a blue would be nice.

Matt Sconce
08-16-2006, 06:06 PM
Well maybe he'll change his mind, in which case he's gotta get his site down ... and in which case we can all worry cuz Matt's got mad skilly.



Haha! :dankk2:

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-16-2006, 06:07 PM
... Sadly, the one thing I do not have are gels, and no where around here sells them...

get the 75 gel pack from EVS express mailed.
or pick a few colors and have em send it on.

... wait are you saying no one in Cali sells gels ... how far are you from L.A., lol

pump as much light as you can from the door ... you will think "this looks rediculous, like its heaven back there" and then got to your master ped and crank it down to -11 or -16, then star with your iris all the way open and slowly turn down until you get the look you want.

The shadows will fall off to black and leaver herin silhouette and there will be a line on the door.

Matt Sconce
08-16-2006, 06:37 PM
Jack Daniel Stanley=The Man

Thanks!!! I will definitely do this! I live in Fresno, and just found out someone carries one pack of an assortment of lighting gels!! Yay! I am heading over to the rehearsal shoot. I will let you know how it goes.

spidey
08-16-2006, 06:58 PM
yeah you live in cali, you should have everything at your disposal.

Bryan
08-17-2006, 12:24 AM
If you need gels or diffusion, we've got a large assortment here at Fresno State that I could provide.

Matt Sconce
08-17-2006, 01:45 AM
If you need gels or diffusion, we've got a large assortment here at Fresno State that I could provide.
Dude, Bryan!! I would love that! I would need them on my Sunday, Monday, Tuesday Shoots. Sunday and Monday are up in Oakhurst and Tuesday is down here in Fresno. I could definitely use the help and advice on set from someone who made the amazing "Moses"!!! I Loved that! I need Some Blues and maybe a Red, and then the clips to hold them on. Let me know if you want to help and also how to get the gels.


yeah you live in cali, you should have everything at your disposal.
Haha. I am in Fresno. That should say it all. 5 1/2 hours from L.A. and in the Central Valley. We have a lot of heat here but no Film anything. No one even carries a DVX. I should have just planned better. I missed the gel part of my research. I should have ordered them a while ago.

About the shoot tonight.----The rehearsal Shot went well. We had a snafu with the owner of the place and he told us his workers were overtaxed and that we could not be there unless we got one of them to stay for the many hours of the rehearsal to "Lock Up" I thought he would let us lock up when we were done. but nope. So, then I ended up paying a worker 20.00 an hour to stay for us. "Ouch!" and It looks like it will be a long shoot on Friday night, and I will be paying her then too. She definitely deserves it for staying there the whole time, but it is a big hit on my "non-existent" budget. I will post some grabs later from the dress rehearsal. I like the way some of it looked. It definitely prepared me for Friday. I had my DVX on the settings I use for the M2 adapter at the start of the shoot without realizing it, so the pictures are sharp and noisy. I realized this later and set the detail levels back to scene 5 settings. Oh well, good thing it was just a rehearsal! I will post soon!

Matt Sconce
08-17-2006, 01:41 PM
Hey everyone! Here are some grabs from our Dress Rehearsal of the Restaurant Scene. They have not been Color Graded yet. I tried to get a lot of light into the scenes so I could get a good feel of what I wanted for the Friday shoot.

http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_1_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_Steph_1_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Nancy_1_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Anthony_1_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_2_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_1_copy.jpg

I am happy with how they turned out so I am much more confident for Friday's Shoot. :love4:

Brandon Rice
08-17-2006, 01:45 PM
cool grabs, nice location.

Brandon Rice
08-17-2006, 01:46 PM
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_2_copy.jpg


I especially like this shot.

Matt Sconce
08-17-2006, 01:56 PM
I especially like this shot.

Me too. It is just nice. I have updated the first page with these grabs as well.

Matt Sconce
08-17-2006, 04:00 PM
hmmm...I just made some homemade blood! I am going to the store to get some blue food coloring to darken it up a bit.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-17-2006, 08:21 PM
hmmm...I just made some homemade blood! I am going to the store to get some blue food coloring to darken it up a bit.
Great grabs ... and regarding the homemade blood ... have you seen the Shed BTS ? Bawahaahahaha! (seriously though, it's on there)

Hope I catch you before you go to the super market ... although you've already made a batch ... but for your next gore out scene ...

Here's the easiest and cheapest way to get great blood IMHO.

1) Buy a bunch of bottles of Strawberry Syrup like Nestle's Quick or preferably and off Brand
2) Buy a bunch of bottles of Chocolate Syrup.
3) have a mixing bowl or bucket on set
4) Mix the blood on camera for the appropriate brown to red ratio.

As for price you can get about seven bottles of each if you buy off brands for less than $20 to $30 and a little more with name brands ... but this is A LOT of blood and you didn't have to cook anything or mix it and it's always right on camera, because like epoxy, you mix the two halves under the actual use conditions.
One or two bottles of this in pro blood would cost about $50.

Is it sticky? Yes ... but so is the homemade kind.

I usually work with the above plus one small eyeliner sized bottle of pro coagulated blood and one small bottle of pro runny blood.

:love4:

VersuS
08-17-2006, 11:44 PM
You can always get a live chicken....


.....just kidding.......or not.....?

Matt Sconce
08-18-2006, 12:25 AM
I used Corn syrup, Chocolate syrup, 3 bottles of red food coloring, water, dark corn syrup and 4 drops of blue food coloring. It is looking nice! I might add a bit more blue. Thanks Jack! I will definitely use your method in the future. MUCH cheaper than my method. :furious3:

Glad you guys like the grabs, we film that scene tomorrow and then we are filming every night until Wednesday. I'll keep you posted!

VersuS
08-18-2006, 12:57 AM
Good luck man!!!

Matt Sconce
08-18-2006, 01:05 PM
While I am waiting for tonight, I thought I would add some grabs from the rehearsal that were color graded. I really like the feel they have. Night time in a restaurant, with a storm coming, and someone about to go insane.

First page updated as well.

http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_Coolish-6_Final__big_2_int_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_Coolish-6_Final_2_int_copy.jpg

Brandon Rice
08-18-2006, 01:11 PM
I like the shots. May want to go even a little further and see what you can get... tweak the coloring more, play with the curves... never know what you might come up with... I DO like the sutile grading you have on these shots.

Matt Sconce
08-18-2006, 01:20 PM
I like the shots. May want to go even a little further and see what you can get... tweak the coloring more, play with the curves... never know what you might come up with... I DO like the sutile grading you have on these shots.

When I used to use AVID, the biggest love of mine was the color curves. I loved the way they updated in real time as you slid the curve. It seems like Premiere 2.0 lags like crazy when trying to slide the curve and only shows the result when you let go....hmmm... Maybe I will CC in Avid and then do the rest in Premiere 2.0. Thanks for the suggestions Brandon!

Brandon Rice
08-18-2006, 01:26 PM
My #1 favorite tool in Avid :) Color Curves.

Matt Sconce
08-18-2006, 02:23 PM
Well, off I go to get ready for the shoot. We will see how it goes. Here are the main things I am thinking about. Remember to add transitional movements, Light well, make sure focus with the adapter is perfect, remember framing, remember to add dead time at the start of a take for sound editing, remember to take breaks for crew, make sure coverage is obtained.

conrad_johnson
08-18-2006, 02:31 PM
Good luck dude.:)

Brandon Rice
08-18-2006, 03:31 PM
Good luck!!! Have a great shoot man!

Matt Sconce
08-19-2006, 06:05 AM
Good luck!!! Have a great shoot man!

Well I just got home. It is 5:00 am and I am soooo tired, but I am happy. I will stay up and load the footage into the computer. The shoot at the restaurant went well. I will post more later when all brain cells are functioning properly.



Update: It is now 20 minutes later, I have seen some of the footage as it is loading and I have nearly passed out from the sheer awesomeness of it! I love It! More later...

Matt Sconce
08-19-2006, 08:43 AM
Okay....it is almost 8:00 am and I just finished pulling some grabs from the footage we shot. Check it out! I am going to sleep now!

http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_1_Steph_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_knife_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_Paige_and_Steph_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_Plate_copy.jpg

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-19-2006, 08:51 AM
Lookin' good man!
Hope that 1st one is a rack - sweet.

Might darken that blood a tad in post ... know how to do selective color correction so you just effect that par? if you ar in FCP I can tell you.

But these look real nice. Don't let the suggestion about the blood stand out.

Will we see schlomo in the last shot?

:thumbsup:

Brandon Rice
08-19-2006, 10:40 AM
Dude! Those shots look HOT! Nice, Nice, Nice work!

Matt Sconce
08-19-2006, 03:52 PM
Lookin' good man!
Hope that 1st one is a rack - sweet.

Might darken that blood a tad in post ... know how to do selective color correction so you just effect that par? if you ar in FCP I can tell you.

But these look real nice. Don't let the suggestion about the blood stand out.

Will we see schlomo in the last shot?

:thumbsup:

Because the CC filters I throw onto these things, I realized, I needed the blood brighter than real blood, so it looks good darkened. If I do not ened up CCing that direction, does anyone know how to do it in Premiere pro? Is it a Garbage matte, and a Replacement color technique? I might have that be slowmo, but I filmed it in 24p with a normal shutter speed of 50. I want it to be shocking and startle the viewer.

The first one is definitely a rack rocus. She comes into focus as she walks a sep toward the table.

The third shot is also a rack focus, as she points up to where she thinks the knife just was.

Thanks for the comments Jack. I am really happy with the way things are turning out. The M2 is a great tool.


Dude! Those shots look HOT! Nice, Nice, Nice work!

Thanks Brandon, I think they are some of the best work I have ever done, so I hope it continues till Tuesday night! We wrap shooting Late Tuesday, Early Wednesday and the Tuesday shots require outside raining shots, so we will see how that goes. Here are some more grabs.
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_Paige_and_Steph2_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_Steph_Scream_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_Steph_stare_copy.jpg

Here is the shot before it rack focuses:
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_Rack_1_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_Paige4_copy.jpg

Here is the knife with the blood darkened:
http://www.eagleasda.com/Rest_3_knife3_copy.jpg

Matt Sconce
08-19-2006, 04:21 PM
UPDATE:

Poster changed to a new style on first page. Grabs added there as well.

Well, I am off to the next shoot at a counselors office an hour North. We will see how it goes!

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-19-2006, 04:40 PM
Because the CC filters I throw onto these things, I realized, I needed the blood brighter than real blood, so it looks good darkened. Ah ok ... didn't know these weren't CCed ... duh http://goldismoney.info/forums/images/smilies/shot.gif

Yeah good call, especially if things are going bluer like some of the CC you showed ... I did the same thing in Bone Hand.


If I do not ened up CCing that direction, does anyone know how to do it in Premiere pro? Is it a Garbage matte, and a Replacement color technique?
...
In FCP in your color corrector filter, you toggle on "limit effect" then use a dropper to select the color you want to alter, and it has a line choker and softness control for the edges, so then you can CC for that color only. Why am I telling you this since you are on Premiere ... because I thought some of the tools might be simillar and you might figure it out with some of the crossover vocabulary ... in FCP at least, no garbage matte required, it will do all of the motion work tracking the color for you based on the dropper choice and how you adjust it.

Lookin good.

Kholi
08-19-2006, 04:41 PM
Vast improvement, by the look of the stills, over Nine To Five Ninja.

And your location kicks ass. Way to go, Matt.

Brandon Rice
08-19-2006, 05:10 PM
It really is lookin' great man!

R.L. Scott
08-19-2006, 05:42 PM
nice bro... love the framing on those shots. the blood looks tasty.

Brandon Rice
08-20-2006, 01:17 AM
Let's see some more stills from tonight dude!

Matt Sconce
08-20-2006, 09:39 AM
Vast improvement, by the look of the stills, over Nine To Five Ninja.

And your location kicks ass. Way to go, Matt.

Thanks! Nine to Five Ninja was my first attempt at the DVX and film making in general. I learned a lot from it and am always trying to improve. I think This film will be light years ahead of my first. That location was SUCH a hassle but I am glad it all worked out, because it rocks!

Ah ok ... didn't know these weren't CCed ... duh

Yeah good call, especially if things are going bluer like some of the CC you showed ... I did the same thing in Bone Hand.


In FCP in your color corrector filter, you toggle on "limit effect" then use a dropper to select the color you want to alter, and it has a line choker and softness control for the edges, so then you can CC for that color only. Why am I telling you this since you are on Premiere ... because I thought some of the tools might be simillar and you might figure it out with some of the crossover vocabulary ... in FCP at least, no garbage matte required, it will do all of the motion work tracking the color for you based on the dropper choice and how you adjust it.

Lookin good.

Thanks Jack! That does help. I am going to mess around and find that tool for Premiere Pro 2!


nice bro... love the framing on those shots. the blood looks tasty.

I am really working on composition this time around, so i appreciate the encouragement. I thought the blood looked tasty too, so I took a big lick and .....BLECH!!! I guess I had way too much corn syrup and not enough chocolate. No more tasting for me... :(


Let's see some more stills from tonight dude!

I am on location until Tomoroow, and will have all the footage loaded into my trusty comp on Monday. I should have some good stuff for you by then as the gruesome, freaky scenes happen tonight. Tuesday will be cool because we will create rain and see how it goes. The shoot last night went well. It was definitely acting intensive, as the scene takes place in a small white room and is dialogue. It was easier in some ways to shoot than the restaurant, yet harder as well because of the small white room vs. a large cool restaurant. Tonight we will be in a little house with a long hallway and bathroom with a tub that has tile up the wall.....perfect for blood slinging..... I have almost all the actors showing up tonight. i will keep you updated.

Brandon Rice
08-20-2006, 03:14 PM
Awesome news dude, good luck, and I look forward to seeing more stuff!

Blaine
08-21-2006, 08:06 PM
Here's the easiest and cheapest way to get great blood IMHO.

1) Buy a bunch of bottles of Strawberry Syrup like Nestle's Quick or preferably and off Brand
2) Buy a bunch of bottles of Chocolate Syrup.
3) have a mixing bowl or bucket on set
4) Mix the blood on camera for the appropriate brown to red ratio.
Who woulda thunk it? :shocked: I tested this today and it came out great! Takes a little practice to get the Strawberry/Chocolate ratio just right but it works. Cleanup's not too bad either. Not sure yet, but it doesn't look like it stains. And if you need blood in the mouth, the stuff tastes good, too. Great call, Jack. http://www.nrestudios.com/images/smilies/emote_notworthy.gif

Brandon Rice
08-21-2006, 08:14 PM
Hey Matt, any new stuff going up soon?

Matt Sconce
08-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Hey Matt, any new stuff going up soon?

Loading the footage from three days now. I will post some grabs later. Some of this stuff blows my mind!

Brandon Rice
08-21-2006, 11:55 PM
Awesome...

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 12:08 AM
We have one day left before we should have full coverage.

Slimothy
08-22-2006, 12:43 AM
Matt, just checked in w/ the rest of your thread. The grabs look great man. You scored a killer location w/ the diner. That M2 is some sweet shizznit. Really lookin forward to the movie.

TIm.

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 12:56 AM
Matt, just checked in w/ the rest of your thread. The grabs look great man. You scored a killer location w/ the diner. That M2 is some sweet shizznit. Really lookin forward to the movie.

TIm.

Hey thanks! I am capturing about three more tapes of footage and then I will post some more grabs. We have a great cemetery, a spooky hall and a crazy bathroom, as well as a sparse counselor's office as other locations.

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 01:00 AM
oh man, I can't wait... I'm gunna have to set my alarm to wake me up in a few hours to see this stuff!

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 01:03 AM
oh man, I can't wait... I'm gunna have to set my alarm to wake me up in a few hours to see this stuff!

Haha! Well, the blood I made worked great!! and washed out of the clothes, and carpet it got onto! The bathroom scene was so scary, our cute little actress who is almost 10 was afraid to go in. She is brave though and eventually did the scene, and did a great job I must add.

VersuS
08-22-2006, 01:31 AM
So scary? Man I cant wait to see this one!!!!!

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 06:05 AM
Here are some grabs from the last couple days shoots. They are not CCd yet.

http://www.eagleasda.com/Mario_copy1.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_couns_1_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Alyssa_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Alyssa_Hall_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_Couns_2_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Ken_blood_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_Cry_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Alyssa_Hall2_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Marion_and_Alyssa_1_copy.jpg

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 06:06 AM
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_knife_copy.jpg
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156249960.jpg

VersuS
08-22-2006, 06:14 AM
coooooooool! you are very good with CU shots! very nice!!!!

Steve_Arm
08-22-2006, 07:28 AM
Holy Batmobile!
I was scrolling those interesting images and reached the actor with the saw.... this is some serious horror s**t!
Can't wait.

The actors look good, too convincing. Where did you get that guy? from a mental hospital? LOL

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 07:31 AM
Matt..... These grabs look GREAT!!!!! I especially like this one....

http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_Couns_2_copy.jpg

Kholi
08-22-2006, 10:38 AM
Wow, Matt--

I gotta say you and Vislaw have the best looking stills of Horror-Fest to me. Those look GREAT.

Another awesome location-- Graveyard.

And your choice on DOF in the graveyard is really great. Nice going, dude.

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-22-2006, 10:46 AM
http://www.eagleasda.com/Marion_and_Alyssa_1_copy.jpg

now you are pushing my story buttons, I'm interested beyond the visuals to see how we get here in other words, and what's the relationship here.
and they look noice.

Kholi
08-22-2006, 10:46 AM
Man. That DVX100b and adapter is killer. edit--

Dude I want to know your budget. LoL. I just realized what was going on in the stills, or at least part of the story. That's wicked.

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 11:07 AM
I can tell you, this story is insane!

VersuS
08-22-2006, 11:12 AM
I want this adapter ASAP!

conrad_johnson
08-22-2006, 11:16 AM
http://www.eagleasda.com/Alyssa_Hall_copy.jpg
This Is awsome! the framing, the lighting, the tilting. way cool man!:love4:

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 11:18 AM
so creepy! Lets see some more screenies dude. :)

Larry Rutledge
08-22-2006, 11:18 AM
Looking fantastic :thumbsup:

How would you feel about driving up to Sac and DP'ing for me? Come on, it's only a 4 hour drive :)

VersuS
08-22-2006, 11:20 AM
If matt keeps going like this then we ll have seen the movie in frames by the time he posts it :P matt even though i love your material, maybe you should consider putting a stop to this because your movie is going to be awesome but you must build some momentum...tease us...don't tell us the story in frames...

ps. tease us please ;-)

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 02:12 PM
If matt keeps going like this then we ll have seen the movie in frames by the time he posts it :P matt even though i love your material, maybe you should consider putting a stop to this because your movie is going to be awesome but you must build some momentum...tease us...don't tell us the story in frames...

ps. tease us please ;-)

Hmmm....due to this challenge...I agree.....No more frames until release...Muah haha!

I look at this forum as the best place to learn how to improve myself that there is, so I love to get feedback on stuff. My goals are to hit the festival circuit running with this, and get a little recognition to try and get funding for a feature. I have one level of seperation between me and Anthony Hopkins, so if I can get some funding, and write a killer feature script based on this, I would approach him to be the psychiatrist. I would then use an HVX, and be able to pay everyone, which would be fun.

My budget out of pocket for this is 2000.00 It will go up, when I buy some stuff for tonights shoot.

Larry, I would actually love to DP for you sometime. I like the experience.

I need to get a locked cut to Leo Gardini around September 2nd, so I will be editing like crazy! I will keep you updated. LAST SHOTS TONIGHT! :costumed-smiley-047




Here is One last Screen shot..........
http://www.eagleasda.com/Grave_Marker_copy.jpg

Blaine
08-22-2006, 02:17 PM
Hey, Matt, what did you end up using for blood?

Filmjunkie677
08-22-2006, 02:23 PM
Matt,

This is lookng fantastic. Great job! Cant wait to see the finished film.

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 02:23 PM
Hmmm....due to this challenge...I agree.....No more frames until release...Muah haha!

I look at this forum as the best place to learn how to improve myself that there is, so I love to get feedback on stuff. My goals are to hit the festival circuit running with this, and get a little recognition to try and get funding for a feature. I have one level of seperation between me and Anthony Hopkins, so if I can get some funding, and write a killer feature script based on this, I would approach him to be the psychiatrist. I would then use an HVX, and be able to pay everyone, which would be fun.

My budget out of pocket for this is 2000.00 It will go up, when I buy some stuff for tonights shoot.

Larry, I would actually love to DP for you sometime. I like the experience.

I need to get a locked cut to Leo Gardini around September 2nd, so I will be editing like crazy! I will keep you updated. LAST SHOTS TONIGHT! :costumed-smiley-047




Here is One last Screen shot..........
http://www.eagleasda.com/Grave_Marker_copy.jpg


Holy COW Nice shot! Dude, you're getting him a cut by Sep 2. DANG! I have a Sep 1 deadline to have Smuggler's to our composer, but I finished shooting that like 4 weeks ago, lol.

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 02:24 PM
Hey, Matt, what did you end up using for blood?

I mixed a big batch of light corn syrup and dark corn syrup, 3 vials of red food coloring, 4 drops of blue food coloring, and hershey's chocolate syrup. I used some ben Nye Products for mouth blood, and some thicker store blood to grip the knife when it moved.

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 02:25 PM
Holy COW Nice shot! Dude, you're getting him a cut by Sep 2. DANG! I have a Sep 1 deadline to have Smuggler's to our composer, but I finished shooting that like 4 weeks ago, lol.

I am going to TRY and get him the cut then. I will be working like crazy! :)

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 02:31 PM
I am going to TRY and get him the cut then. I will be working like crazy! :)

You are one ambitious son of a gun... good luck man :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 02:43 PM
You are one ambitious son of a gun... good luck man :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

That is all too true. I will edit by feel, which to me, means making sure the cuts feel natural and don't draw attention to themselves. I will try to make them invisible and allow the story to flow and build the emotions I am aiming for. It is hard to feel them all without the music, but I think it will work out well. I can't wait to watch this thing with the music!

Larry Rutledge
08-22-2006, 02:46 PM
Larry, I would actually love to DP for you sometime. I like the experience.
It would be cool, though Brandon would be mad that I didn't ask him...but I'm sure he'll get over it. Maybe I'll offer him the 2nd unit position :evil: http://www.nrestudios.com/images/smilies/emote_rotfl.gif

Unfortunately, all I could offer you would be gas money (maybe) and a couch to crash on while you're up here. But your work is great and it would definitely go a long way to improving my projects.

By the way, we may be heading down your way in a month or so...I'll let you know and maybe we can "do lunch" (You know like those Hollywood snobs always do :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) )

I'm also really anxious to hear what Leo does with the music...what a phenomenal composer he is!! :thumbsup:

Peace,
Larry

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 02:47 PM
That is all too true. I will edit by feel, which to me, means making sure the cuts feel natural and don't draw attention to themselves. I will try to make them invisible and allow the story to flow and build the emotions I am aiming for. It is hard to feel them all without the music, but I think it will work out well. I can't wait to watch this thing with the music!

One big thing I've found helpful in my several years of editing is to get "in the mood" Throw in some temp music, or just play some music in Itunes or something while you're editing the scenes to get a feel... the cuts must be natural, but must also move the scene in the emotional direction that you want it to go. And, find out what your tendancies are... I tend to cut things too quickly, therefore I know when I come to a more emotional slow scene I need to work against my natural instinct and allow the "moments" to happen, and slow everything down.

Sorry for the rant, but maybe some of it is helpful.

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 02:48 PM
It would be cool, though Brandon would be mad that I didn't ask him...but I'm sure he'll get over it. Maybe I'll offer him the 2nd unit position

Hey man.. anything to work with you Larry :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 02:51 PM
I tend to cut to early as well! I will battle that during cutting!

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 02:52 PM
It would be cool, though Brandon would be mad that I didn't ask him...but I'm sure he'll get over it. Maybe I'll offer him the 2nd unit position :evil: http://www.nrestudios.com/images/smilies/emote_rotfl.gif

Unfortunately, all I could offer you would be gas money (maybe) and a couch to crash on while you're up here. But your work is great and it would definitely go a long way to improving my projects.

By the way, we may be heading down your way in a month or so...I'll let you know and maybe we can "do lunch" (You know like those Hollywood snobs always do :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) )

I'm also really anxious to hear what Leo does with the music...what a phenomenal composer he is!! :thumbsup:

Peace,
Larry

Cool! We shall be snobs for a day! :)

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 02:52 PM
I tend to cut to early as well! I will battle that during cutting!

We all have our demons.... it appears yours is the same as mine...

Larry Rutledge
08-22-2006, 03:04 PM
Hey man.. anything to work with you Larry :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) You might be singing a different tune after you have to put up with me :grin: j/k it would definitely be a blast. And we will soon, I hope.


Cool! We shall be snobs for a day! :) Snobs it is!! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

cinealma
08-22-2006, 03:13 PM
Just finished reading through 22 pages of posts and I love the BTS stuff! And you know what? I actually learned a thing or two to boot!

I love this place!

John G.

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 03:21 PM
Just finished reading through 22 pages of posts and I love the BTS stuff! And you know what? I actually learned a thing or two to boot!

I love this place!

John G.

I am glad! That is why I love it here too!


We all have our demons.... it appears yours is the same as mine...


hehehehe.....nice one...but I am...Not Alone....... Thanks for reading the script!

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 03:24 PM
hehehehe.....nice one...but I am...Not Alone....... Thanks for reading the script!

Had to prove I read it... It was great man :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Matt Sconce
08-22-2006, 04:58 PM
I'm off to the last shoot! I'll let you know how it goes!

Brandon Rice
08-22-2006, 04:59 PM
Awesome, break a leg! I mean um... good luck!

Matt Sconce
08-23-2006, 10:47 AM
Awesome, break a leg! I mean um... good luck!

Well, the shoot went...................................absolutely great! I know I promised no more stills, but if one happens to sneak into this post, do not blame me....They are sneaky little things! I am starting editing on the movie soon now that I have all the coverage needed. I will keep you updated!

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156351470.jpg

Brandon Rice
08-23-2006, 10:52 AM
Nice shot dude! Keep me updated. I'm SUPER excited about this film. Can't wait!

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-23-2006, 10:52 AM
Best yet.
Are the faking driving while you move lights outside the car?
(like they did in Frailty)
How'd you get that lighting?

Matt Sconce
08-23-2006, 11:04 AM
Best yet.
Are the faking driving while you move lights outside the car?
(like they did in Frailty)
How'd you get that lighting?

They are just "Pulling in" to the house. I have two 1000 watt Briteks, Back lighting the rain, and I have one 1000 watt Britek shining straight through the Windshield.

Brandon Rice
08-23-2006, 11:04 AM
Nice! Dude, I cannot wait to see some footy of this stuff!

Slimothy
08-23-2006, 01:09 PM
Well, the shoot went...................................absolutely great! I know I promised no more stills, but if one happens to sneak into this post, do not blame me....They are sneaky little things! I am starting editing on the movie soon now that I have all the coverage needed. I will keep you updated!

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156351470.jpg
Looks awesome man, did you use a how did you get the camera mounted there?

Jack Daniel Stanley
08-23-2006, 01:17 PM
I think mebbe they drove up into the shot.

but ... hmmm ... where's the door ... so mebbe not.

Matt Sconce
08-23-2006, 04:27 PM
I think mebbe they drove up into the shot.

but ... hmmm ... where's the door ... so mebbe not.

It is not a moving shot. That would have rocked, but this is after they have pulled in and she turns off the car. hehe:)

VersuS
08-23-2006, 04:29 PM
still Matt the scene looks great!!! very professional

Brandon Rice
08-23-2006, 04:29 PM
still Matt the scene looks great!!! very professional

ditto. :) Looks awesome.

g0ldenb0y55
08-23-2006, 04:44 PM
http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156249960.jpg

Awesome!

Matt Sconce
08-24-2006, 02:34 AM
Well, I have looked through the footage and there are several effects shots, and one low light shot I will look into further. I am trying to see if we need a pickup shot day. So far, so good, everything is turning out great! I start the actual editing tomorrow.

VersuS
08-24-2006, 03:26 AM
Good Luck!

Brandon Rice
08-24-2006, 09:24 AM
happy editing!

Matt Sconce
08-25-2006, 03:37 AM
happy editing!

Most of it is happy. :) Almost all the Shots are great! I am going to need to do one pickup shot and a voice over in one section. other than that, so far so good. I am at 9 minutes and still going strong. i am betting on a wrap length of 15 min with credits...possibly 20. This is EXactly what I hoped for. I will keep you updated. I am working on a mirror FX shot right now and I am interested to see how it turns out.

Brandon Rice
08-25-2006, 09:18 AM
Awesome stuff Matt... Looking forward to seeing some stuff soon.

Matt Sconce
08-25-2006, 12:57 PM
Awesome stuff Matt... Looking forward to seeing some stuff soon.

Well, I just got the first cut together, and I decided to see how "Scary" the film actually was. I wanted to inspire chills and a feeling of "Oh Crap". I put the Music From Halloween behind it and sat down to watch it this morning. I knew what was coming and by the end, I had massive chills and a tear of "Oh Crap" in my eye. I am VERY pleased. Now just for the pickup shots, Color grading, sound editing, final cutting, ADR, and figuring out if I want to use noise reduction. (I am trying to decide if I want a Smooth clean look or slightly gritty). See ya guys!

Brandon Rice
08-25-2006, 12:58 PM
Nice man! It's always awesome to see your film, and it turns out how you wanted! IMO I'd go for the gritty look :) I think the film lends itself to that!

Matt Sconce
08-25-2006, 01:02 PM
Nice man! It's always awesome to see your film, and it turns out how you wanted! IMO I'd go for the gritty look :) I think the film lends itself to that!

I am thinking the same thing.

Despite my previous claims...here are some more screen shots, cause I'm loving it! :)
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_close_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Chevy_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Ken_knife2_little_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_Ken_Stare_1_copy.jpg

VersuS
08-25-2006, 01:06 PM
i think that comment was shooting at me ;P
love the shots man but that doesnt mean that i wouldnt prefer to wait for the release
your movie is in my top1 in here screen shots or not

Matt Sconce
08-25-2006, 01:59 PM
i think that comment was shooting at me ;P
love the shots man but that doesnt mean that i wouldnt prefer to wait for the release
your movie is in my top1 in here screen shots or not

Thanks for the anticipation. I am hoping it will give you some chills and thrills. :) The last screenies were the final ones because I will give too much away if I post the other ones I want to post. The story is pretty twisted, so hopefully there are some surprises for all. Enjoy! I am going to try a second cut!

Brandon Rice
08-25-2006, 02:06 PM
I am thinking the same thing.

Despite my previous claims...here are some more screen shots, cause I'm loving it! :)
http://www.eagleasda.com/Paige_close_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Chevy_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Ken_knife2_little_copy.jpg
http://www.eagleasda.com/Steph_Ken_Stare_1_copy.jpg

WHOA MAN! WHOA! I LOVE THOSE! MAN! You got a gem here! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

Matt Sconce
08-26-2006, 02:50 AM
Here are Some Behind the Scenes Pictures taken by my friend Master Dave Johnson from "Nine to Five Ninja". I also have a cool story. I got the rough cut done and finally got the timing where I want it to be. I still will refine through several more cuts, but I decided to get some of my friends in the casts opinion on it. I turned out the lights, put on the theme from halloween and played the movie. My friend held on to her husband a little way through and started being quite afraid. She swore several times and that is very uncommon for her. Afterwards, she was a bit shaken and wanted the lights back on. I think I have succeeded in creating the feelings I was going for. I am going to ask Leo Gardini to compose something similar to a Halloween style score. I hope the sound editing and Color grading go as well as the first cut. I will update later.

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156582008.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156582030.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156582062.jpg

http://www.dvxuser6.com/uploaded/10327/1156582215.jpg

Matt Sconce
08-26-2006, 03:21 AM
Updated poster to original and posted some grabs and an update on first page.

slim pickens
08-26-2006, 03:58 AM
nice work...frickn banner is creepy...i like it.

hot in the valley this year?

VersuS
08-26-2006, 04:01 AM
Great BTS Matt....keeps reminding me how many things I dont do and I dont own...looool

Brandon Rice
08-26-2006, 09:39 AM
love the BTS Matt! I see you had a real small crew and stuff... love the indie feel of everything... was that a shop light I saw in the shot? Nice stuff.... and cool story too, I can't wait to see something!

Matt Sconce
08-26-2006, 12:27 PM
love the BTS Matt! I see you had a real small crew and stuff... love the indie feel of everything... was that a shop light I saw in the shot? Nice stuff.... and cool story too, I can't wait to see something!

I used three 1000 watt briteks, 2 300 watts scoop light from Lowes, four 150 watt scoops, and 4 75 watt scoops. Glad you like it!

Brandon Rice
08-26-2006, 12:32 PM
dang, lots of lights! Guess you had to blast it using that 35mm adapter. Cool beans man!