SuperZeros - Shaun Savard

[PlayMaker_Shaun]

http://www.playmakerstudios.com/superzerossmaller.jpg

Hello Everyone


This is our first entry in any "fest" you guys have held. We had alot of fun
and a great group of people as always to help us. The short time we had
to get together and film the sequences made this short all the better, to us
anyways. Please comments are soo welcome, the good and the bad, it just means you watched.
We are also working on a 9 minute extended cut with some over the top stuff, including
a smallville spoof on how rewind
man go this powers and his link to Knockout girl.


Cast/Crew:

Brock Manoll
Liz Dagenais
Mat fontaine
Nick Bisson
Shaun Savard
Mark Britain
Chelsea Malyon
Andre Gauthier


Music By:
Ritual (thanks Sean)

Special Thanks to:
Sals Bar


Thanks for watching!

[Edgen]

A 9 minute version?!
:shocked::huh:
wowa.



There were some pretty funny parts to the movie.
and.. Other parts needed work.
Acting, meh.
The camera work is what got to me. Its like the character were waiting on the camera to pan to them to deliver their lines. Because of that, it had a hard time flowing.

/j

[Blaine]

I have to agree that I didn't care for the tennis match approach to shooting.

[MiataFilmSomething]

Pros:

Some funny performances and some good lines. I enjoyed much of it. It reminded me a little of Mystery Men. Quirky fun, and portrayed it as such.

Cons:

Odd flow of some of the dialog during editing. Maybe some more action would have kept it on pace.

Overall - Fun to watch once, but dont' know if I would again. It seemed to lack something.

[PlayMaker_Shaun]

Thanks for the comments so far, taking them all into consideration when finishing the extended cut. Pacing i agree probly would have been better
had there not been some lag inbetween lines. Only wanted to spin my camera so fast (haha). Maybe that thing that was missing you will find in the longer cut.

Thanks again!

Are we allowed to post a trailer now does anyone know?

[Beat Takeshi]

I still havnt gotten a chance to see this one.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

hey guys lot of fun stuff here and some pretty credible performances
also some sturdy comic ideas and scenarios that are executed pertty well
Stretch always having his head out of frame, the backwards dubbing, etc. all work well.

What's getting in your way at times are some of the technical elements.

Most noteabley the attempt to pan back and forth for all the closeups at the table.

Doing it for the whole scene would be a tough feet at best, but there are a few technical things you have to do for this to work at all.

Number one is that the camera cannot lead the movement. It has to be motivated by somethng else. IN other words, you cannot have a guy finish his line ... the scene stop as teh camera moves over while the other actor waits , then have him do his lime ... then the scene stops while the other actos waits for the camera to move over and so forth.

A look at any TV show or movie will reveal that the actor begins speaking and THEN the camera either cuts or moves. The fact that the actor begins speaking while the camera is not on them is what motivates the pan or the cut.

Otherwise, best case scenario, you get a mechanical rythm to the scene that emphasizes the fact that cutting is going on,

or worst case scenario, as we hace here, -- Dead Air -- partucularly damaging to comedy.

I'd try one of two things if you like for the DVD version assuming we all get on it.
1) cut the video so that one line of dialogue comes immediatley after the other and then cut to the speaker. I think your pause before the movement is big enough to do this so that it might look like standard closeups with out any whip in between. So again you'd be on the guy finishing his line and then you would hear the next line almost immediately, and then you would cut to that speaker. You might also play with inserting others closeups while they aren't speaking as well, so we see how they are listening / taking the comments of the speaker
2) alternately, isolate the pan between speakers and speed it up and perhaps add a small swish or woosh sound effect.

Again there are lots of good and funny ideas in this.

Congrats,

Jack

[Kaz]

Jack pretty much said all I wanted to say. However, I will add that the part where Stretch puts his arm around Flamer was H I L A R I O U S.

[PlayMaker_Shaun]

Thanks for your input both of you. Points well taken thanks Jack.
Was kinda trying to base the movement on that 70's show when there in the
basement. As for the arm, it was one of those things we just decided to do when we got there haha not really scripted at all. I tried the cuts like you suggested Jack but some of the parts don't match up quite right. I'm going to try the speed up with sound today see how that looks. Maybe i could send you a clip and get your opinion.

[Aaron Marshall]

I like the title. Your characters were pretty funny. I think if you fixed the whipping around dialog scenes it would improve x10. I thought the flamer dude was funny. Some of it reminded me of something out of a John Waters movie. I could kind of feel that 70's show after you mentioned it. It felt very sitcomish which is cool because that seems like what you were going for.

groovy stuff

[Shaun Patrick]

I echo most of the technical/story critiques but I must compliment you on the concept. It's really funny and, for the most part, the film delivers. It's just the technical things start to distract from the story after awhile. Good job and I hope to see more stuff in the future....

[Norm Sanders]

Not reading the other posts, I wish the camera didn't just bounce back & forth between the three zeros for as long as it did.

I thought the flaming zero was funny in his deliver, and also liked rewind man ... didn't care for stretch too much.

For a girl hero that's supposed to be hot, I would have used a more attractive mask to really sell it, unless it's all supposed to be campy across the board.

Also liked the waitress who was waiting on them, and the very opening character was good (the really upbeat guy).

[Larry R]

Note: I haven't read the other posts yet, so I may repeat comments that have already been made.

I wasn't particularly fond of this one, there didn't seem to be much story beyond pointing out how gay Flamer was...and a couple guys who wanted to find these zeros.

I did not like the camera constantly panning back and forth across the table to each of the guys as they spoke. Perhaps you were "trying out" alternatives to wide/cu/ots sequences, but I don't think it worked well.

The dialog all had an echo to it like they were in a cave talking and the color seemed straight out of the camera, would like to have seen some work done to at least improve the contrast, particularly in the exterior scene.

[PlayMaker_Shaun]

Thanks for the comments, but actually the shots were processed after.
The look was intentional, but since you didn't seem to care for any of the movie i can see why these points would stick out to you more then the average person. But the story was ment to focus on these 3 "zeros" not necessarily Flamers "gay" self. Sorry if you took it that way.

Thanks again!

[Cryogenic Filmworks]

I thought the concept was funny. Not into the "gay" thing but I thought you pulled if off real well in this. It may not have been the intention for him to be the focus but it was it worked I thought. The arm thing was funny. Wish you could have lost the mask on the chick so we could see what she really looked like. The camera panning back and forth was a real turnoff. The lighting needed some work (as does my stuff), the audio was ok, the music just seemed to be thrown in there. It does have potential though.

[PlayMaker_Shaun]

I've been working on the extended cut of this, it runs about 9minutes with credits. The Camera panning is now sped up so it becomes less of an issue.
The pacing is more quick as a result. Lighting was hard in a place like that
as it was a bar and we had only 1 softbox as our secondary light fried during rehearsal. Either way all good. I will be hosting the extended cut after voting is over tonight.

I did change a few things to include a couple of songs that are copyrighted
to show the additional scenes. But since this ext cut is not for the DVD and
just for fun i don't see the harm.

[PlayMaker_Shaun]

Hey guys, for anyone who is still interested in seeing the 9:30second version
reworked please download it from this link.

Thanks!

http://www.playmakerstudios.com/superzeros_ex.mov