"Nine to Five Ninja" by msconce

[Matt Sconce]

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This is our first short filmed with a DVX, and we are excited to see what you guys think. We have learned so much from this site and from you, and hope you enjoy our film "Nine to Five Ninja". Our first contest.....WOOHOO!!:dankk2:


:costumed-smiley-047 I pity duh foo who dont use DVXUSER.COM

9 to 5 Ninja Master Dave Johnson
Ninja 1 Max Corral
Ninja 2 Chris Taylor
Boss David Gilders
Scotsman Chad Orrin
Kid with fire Josh Borden
Voice for Ninja Master Signal David Gilders

Director Matthew Sconce
Co-Director David Gilders
Producers David Gilders and Matthew Sconce
Written by Matthew Sconce and David Gilders
Concept by Matthew Sconce

Director of Photography Matthew Sconce
Editor Matthew Sconce
Editing Supervisor David Gilders
Foley artists David Gilders and Matthew Sconce
Composer Joel Warkentin

Grips David Gilders, Gary Sconce, Max Corral, Chris Taylor, Chad Orrin, Matthew Sconce, Master Dave Johnson
Main Boom Operator David Gilders
Co-boom operator Nick Marr
Smoke Machine Operator (The Smoke Guy) Gary Sconce
Fight Choreography Master Dave Johnson, Max Corral, Chris Taylor, Matthew Sconce
Stunts Max Corral, Chris Taylor, Master Dave Johnson
Law Enforcement officer on site Gary Sconce
Seamstress Isa Tenchio
Catering David Gilders

[Matt Sconce]

Huzzah! Ours is uploaded!:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) We look forward to your comments!

[Aaron Marshall]

I loved all the smoke effects you had going on. The ninja outfits look superb. You had a great atmosphere going on. I was entertained by this short.

[Matt Sconce]

I loved all the smoke effects you had going on. The ninja outfits look superb. You had a great atmosphere going on. I was entertained by this short.

We are glad you were entertained. That was definitely the goal. I'm glad you liked the atmosphere, that was one of our main focuses. Thanks for all the comments! For all of you who have seen the movie, send your comments our way. We would greatly appreciate it.:)

[Kholi]

Easily one of my favorites of this fest. I thought the ninja theme wouldve soured it but it wasn't bad at all.The fights were too long for what you were capable of pulling off well but everything outside of the fighting was actually executed quite nicely.In regards to the fight scenes again, I noticed a very intuitive and or rather prepared camera. As in... the camera moved at the right timed actually covering the action. I really applaud you guys on that, the camera op, director. fight director. and dp.Great job. By the by, I noticed that your footage was rather clean. Good job on that as well.

[Matt Sconce]

Thank you for all the compliments and constructive criticism, we are glad you liked the movie. The "Ninjas" are great guys who provided their own Ninja Suits and all. I think people will be surprised by our film as it has a clean, crisp image for being shot at night. I was absolutely amazed at the way the DVX100b performed. I was hard pressed to find noise in my image. It was just very clean.
Thank you for the comments about the camera movement. I tried to make the camera angles allow the viewer to feel they were involved in the action without drawing attention to the movements themselves.

For those of you who have not commented, I hope you do. It is nice to hear feedback on something in which so much time was placed, and I love to learn from your opinions. That is one of the reasons I love this site. I am always learning.

[mrpunch]

I thoroughly enjoyed the way the fight was filmed. Amazed actually! The low camera on the shot where he flips them both was awesome, and the way it cut with the preceeding and after shot was superb!
I would have liked for him to maybe say something while he was in the office. The manager was over excited and I didn't know why. But it fits with the mood, once the mood is set with the ninja dialogue. Maybe having the lead say something in that voice as he walked away or was leaving the office would have set that more.
Was the smoke added in post or did you use something while filming?
Hats off to the fight coreography and the shot selection!

[Kholi]

So was it really the DVX100b that produced such a crisp/stark image?

Damn, it's really freaking clean.

[Matt Sconce]

So was it really the DVX100b that produced such a crisp/stark image?

Damn, it's really freaking clean.
It was indeed. I also made sure to light well. But, we turned the lights on outside (the first time we had ever seen the DVX100b at night) and almost passed out at the amazing, noise free image. Each shot, we were sitting there with our jaws on the ground. I hope you all enjoy this and comment. We have some neat behind the scene stuff to upload when it is done.

[Matt Sconce]

I loved all the smoke effects you had going on.



Was the smoke added in post or did you use something while filming?


I will now talk about the smoke. I definitely think it made the look of the film complete. We debated doing post production smoke but settled on using a fog machine. We borrowed one, and the fog juice too. (These are the types of fog machines you can pick up from a local store). My dad (an immense help and a local sheriff...also greatly helpful...)would attempt to see which way the wind was blowing and fog the scene before we rolled camera.

Because it was so cold, the fog heat mechanism, that produces the fog, kept turning off. We would have to wait for long periods of time between shots for it to heat back up and if we did not get the scenes right, would have to wait again. I am definitely glad we used it though!! It added atmosphere and helped with the overall feel of the night scene.
:)

[Edgen]

Welp, same with before, don't want to repeat, but here it goes.

My Thoughts:

overall, i really really enjoyed it. The pacing for the waking/office scene was effective. I liked the dolly shots.
The ninja plaque made me laugh. Nice touch.
The 'glass/bandanna' case in the drawer actually made me think of the scene in "The Brief Case" from the sci fest. Didn't know if it was alive or not.
The boss's dialog, "Come in here" was dominated by the score. (tone that down a wee bit?
Score.. First part friggin' amazing. Very, very effective. I even dug the techno elments in the fight. I wish the composer would have blended the two together and really brought that out.
The knife on the tree/cut VO was one of my fav parts of the film.
Acting. I really enjoyed the 9-5's performance. Is he a karate guy for real? I think if you sped up the fighting it would have been a bit more belieavable. Seemed 'thought out' and planned. Amazing none the less. bravo there.
The kid and forest fires. Meh. That could have been something else. Cliched and you knew what the 9-5 was about to say.
I dug the final hit into the camera. That made my laugh. :)
Lighting was great. Smoke effects.. I think i used the same smoke effect in mine (me thinks its the same digital footage?)(@3:21?)
The scotish guy? Ok.. Yes. I bout peed my pants... FREEEEDOM!
Audio, I dug. I think the compression could have been a bit better but we are limited on that.

Cheers! I enjoyed it!
/j

[DerrickTempleton]

first half is pretty bad, but the second half is amazing. Really hilarious and cool at the same time. The part in the office with the boss just doesn't add anything positive...but at least you make up for it with the wind blowing out the lighter at the end...soooooo great!

[Matt Sconce]

first half is pretty bad, but the second half is amazing.

It is funny where people's viewing likes and dislikes differ. I loved the first part of the film for things the DP and Director of a film loves (the dolly shots, framing, subtle stuff) It is nice to see other opinions and it helps me learn what to do differently in the future. Is there anything in particular you didn't like in that first part?


The part in the office with the boss just doesn't add anything positive...but at least you make up for it with the wind blowing out the lighter at the end...soooooo great!

I am glad you liked that part of the film. It is one of my favorites as well. That actor is a junior high schooler. He had just gone through a loss in his family so we had him come onto the project, so he could have time to do something fun and get away from the sadness for a while. He also was a great little actor. He loved it and is always talking about how much fun it was. Thank you for your comments and critiques.:)

[Matt Sconce]

Welp, same with before, don't want to repeat, but here it goes.

My Thoughts:

overall, i really really enjoyed it. The pacing for the waking/office scene was effective. I liked the dolly shots.

Thank you. I wanted to keep it interesting but build to the knife throw. Wait until the BTS. The dolly shot is a funny story...



The boss's dialog, "Come in here" was dominated by the score. (tone that down a wee bit?

Yeah, I see what you are saying. I played with the levels for that moment, but always came back to my final settings. Maybe, it is my speakers, but I always felt it was too loud when the music was quieter. It is probably because I knew that line was coming.



The knife on the tree/cut VO was one of my fav parts of the film.

Thanks! This is one of my favorite shots as well. The Kanji on the knife says Seieido "Way of the Elite"



Acting. I really enjoyed the 9-5's performance. Is he a karate guy for real? I think if you sped up the fighting it would have been a bit more belieavable. Seemed 'thought out' and planned. Amazing none the less. bravo there.

He is an actor who graciously agreed to do our film for free. He is a grandmaster in Seieido... here is his website (www.masterjohnson.com (http://www.masterjohnson.com)), he is also a master in Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, and Shotokan Karate. He is also over 50 years old, and in great shape. I think he rocks!



The kid and forest fires. Meh. That could have been something else. Cliched and you knew what the 9-5 was about to say.

It seems people are split on this. Some people think it is the funniest thing ever and others think we should have left it out. I personally chuckle when I see it...the master saves scotsman from ninjas and helps preserve the forest..hehe




I dug the final hit into the camera. That made my laugh. :)

Mission accomplished! :) hehe. I am glad you liked it.




The scotish guy? Ok.. Yes. I bout peed my pants... FREEEEDOM!

That was great...We planned and changed our minds for a long time on who the ninjas would be attacking. The Scottish guy won out. He is a bonified Scott and provided all his own costuming.


Thank you for your in depth comments and critiques. This helps me so much. I look forward to the others that I will receive to help me make better films in the future. :love4:

[Edgen]

Thank you for your in depth comments and critiques. This helps me so much. I look forward to the others that I will receive to help me make better films in the future. :love4:

You are most welcome! Everyone's provided some really great feedback on these shorts. :)

now that you say that the 9-5 was out saving Scots and preventing forest fires, it makes it that much funnier. :) 50 years old??! Dang! ya, I couldn't tell if that was a gut or if he's actually that beefed up. I'll have to check out his site and shoot him a congrats email. :)

cheers and looking forward to seeing your next.
/j

[Ian Slessor]

What can I add?

Everyone's covered pretty much what I would say.

Excellent coverage and composition.
Great lighting.
Sound, well, you know about the boss' line so we'll leave it at that.
The music rocked but I'm wondering if some "Eastern" influence couldn't have been added to the fight mix?
The acting was great...."FREEEDOM!!!" LOL!!!!

Yeah. That last punch into the screen was the only way to end it, IMO.

But is it Hero or....Kung Fu?

I think that might be the only place you might lose points with me.

But that's just me. Perhaps ONLY me.

Regardless. That was one great short.

Well done.


sincerely,


ian

[wesley]

thought it was very well shoty especially the first half. good angles and shot that complimented the story. also liked the music in the first half.

the second half feels a bit more messy to me but still good. smoke looked cool and shots were really nice and crisp.

overall very good job

[Matt Sconce]

But is it Hero or....Kung Fu?

I think that might be the only place you might lose points with me.

But that's just me. Perhaps ONLY me.

Regardless. That was one great short.

Well done.


sincerely,


ian

Man is getting attacked......man gets saved by Nine to Five Ninja.....Nine to Five Ninja=HERO.... :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

I hope that helps. I believe he is a hero and what he does is quite super with his bandana of power and all.

[Matt Sconce]

What can I add?

Everyone's covered pretty much what I would say.

Excellent coverage and composition.
Great lighting.
The music rocked but I'm wondering if some "Eastern" influence couldn't have been added to the fight mix?

I am glad you liked the lighting, composition, etc. Yeah, I think the eastern influence would have helped add a dimension the film was lacking, but I am happy with the music. If I would redo it, that is definitely something i would change.Thanks for the helpful feedback! :)



The acting was great...."FREEEDOM!!!" LOL!!!! ?

haha! I laugh at that everytime. Definitely one of my favorite moments in the film. That is what comes about when you sit with your co-director for hours at Wienerschnitzel coming up with your dialogue. Chili dogs+long hours=strange things.

[Shaun Patrick]

I really dug this one. It had a great 80's Dolph Lundgren/Steven Seagal direct-to-video action movie look/feel to it--I mean that as a very high compliment. Great job!

[DarrenRyan]

I mirror Shaun Patricks sentiments. I really liked the begining, not sure why others didn't, and I definitely see the Hero element. Great work. I laughed out loud at the Scot.

[Matt Sconce]

I mirror Shaun Patricks sentiments. I really liked the begining, not sure why others didn't, and I definitely see the Hero element. Great work. I laughed out loud at the Scot.

I loved shooting the beginning and just building the base of who the guy was. I am glad you can see the hero in the Ninja Master and I am glad the Scot made you laugh! He had a blast doing this. Later on in filming I turned around and he was with the ninjas doing the intro rap to "The Fresh Prince" in his kilt and all! haha! :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

[Matt Sconce]

I can't wait for more of you to review the film! Woohoo! :)
I am happy with the feedback we have received so far, and think I have learned from it. "Only you.....can prevent fo-rest fire-s" hehe

:nads:

[Kholi]

Gotta reiterate--

The beginning was actually the best part of this. The fights seemed to just be too much for the production, though I see the mass effort.

I'm jealous of you guys and everyone else whom did something. Great job, once more.

[Matt Sconce]

I really dug this one. It had a great 80's Dolph Lundgren/Steven Seagal direct-to-video action movie look/feel to it--I mean that as a very high compliment. Great job!

I love it!! Those were great old movies. They didn't take themselves to seriously and kicked major buttocks! Thankyou for the compliment and I hope to go up from here. I definitely want to get better each time I make a movie. Woohoo!:dankk2:

[Matt Sconce]

The fights seemed to just be too much for the production, though I see the mass effort.

Thank you for your feedback. Could you clarify what you mean by this?

[Kholi]

Thank you for your feedback. Could you clarify what you mean by this?


The fights seemed to be beyond your actors, is what I meant. Not that they aren't athletic, but they didn't look like they were actually fighting as opposed to going through the motions.

That's just having people who know how, though. Learning how to throw a punch or a kick the right way, even reactions to punches and kicks.

Though I think every herofest short suffered from the same fate. It's just hard to really have believable fights without the cash anyway. So it wasn't meant in a bad way, just an honest opinion.

Though I do want to say that you have the best camera direction out of all the fight scenes in the fest. =D

[Edgen]

Not that they aren't athletic, but they didn't look like they were actually fighting as opposed to going through the motions.

Bingo!! that's what I meant in my post about possibly speeding up the fighting. This way, it at least looks like they are moving a little faster instead of a choreographed sparring match.

Its definitely one of the best fights of the 'those with fights' :)

/j

[Matt Sconce]

they didn't look like they were actually fighting as opposed to going through the motions.

That's just having people who know how, though. Learning how to throw a punch or a kick the right way, even reactions to punches and kicks.

Though I think every herofest short suffered from the same fate. It's just hard to really have believable fights without the cash anyway. So it wasn't meant in a bad way, just an honest opinion

Ah, I see what you mean. thankyou for helping me understand. I think we need to work harder on the choreography next time and have an actual session where we practice it, instead of only a few hours before shooting. We only had two days to shoot the whole thing (The master was only available then), so we were a bit rushed. I appreciate the feedback and learn much from hearing it. I still really like the choreagraphy:dankk2:


Though I do want to say that you have the best camera direction out of all the fight scenes in the fest. =D.

Thanks, that means a lot. :dankk2:

[Matt Sconce]

Bingo!! that's what I meant in my post about possibly speeding up the fighting. This way, it at least looks like they are moving a little faster instead of a choreographed sparring match.

Its definitely one of the best fights of the 'those with fights' :)

/j

Hey Edgen, thanks for the tips. Speeding up the fight could definitely help! :nads:

[Matt Sconce]

Okay guys, I have heard both sides to this question, and would appreciate your response. What was your opinion of the end with the kid, lighter and line "Only you can prevent forest fires"? Some people seem to love it while others hate it. I would like to know why you thought it worked or did not work. Thanks!

[Matt Sconce]

I am excited because my father (who did all of the smoke) and the Scot ("Freedom"!) are both logging in later to check this out. They should have some good perspectives on seeing the final product and your comments. I am enjoying all of your films!

[Aaron Marshall]

I personally did not like the "forest fires" line. I didn't hate it. I was more indifferent to it.

The Scot on the other hand was hilarious. That was one of my favorite parts in your film. That and the smoke, so your father must really be awesome.

I already turned in my ballot and gave this film pretty high ratings in all categories.

Another one of my favorite parts of the film was the music in the introduction. It was very Danny Elfman. I thought it was expertly composed and crafted. I felt very moved by it.

[MasterJohnson]

This is Master Johnson A.K.A. "Nine to Five Ninja" I would like to thank all of you for the great comments so far. It is very encouraging. It has been such an honor working with Matt Sconce. He is so gifted, talented, and professional. Not to mention a great Martial Artist in his own right. I look forward to working with him on future projects. See you at the movies!!
:dankk2:

[DerrickTempleton]

Msconce, earlier you asked me why I didn't like the beginning. I've read some people actually like it better than the last half. My problem with it was it seemed so typical. I've seen a ton of student films where the protagonist wakes up, gets out of bed, brushes his teeth, etc. It just doesn't do anything for me, it doesn't feel like part of a story, it's like the loading screen of a video game almost. Plus, it didn't have any real dramatic lighting, just looked plain to me.

Keep in mind I still love this movie; I've sent the link to all my friends who aren't even into videography! I just want to share some critical feedback, because I know it helps.

[Matt Sconce]

Msconce, earlier you asked me why I didn't like the beginning. I've read some people actually like it better than the last half. My problem with it was it seemed so typical. I've seen a ton of student films where the protagonist wakes up, gets out of bed, brushes his teeth, etc. It just doesn't do anything for me, it doesn't feel like part of a story, it's like the loading screen of a video game almost. Plus, it didn't have any real dramatic lighting, just looked plain to me.

Keep in mind I still love this movie; I've sent the link to all my friends who aren't even into videography! I just want to share some critical feedback, because I know it helps.

It is a TREMENDOUS help to get feedback like this. I appreciate your honesty as well. It helps me see a different point of view which is hard to do sometimes as the Co-director/DP/Cameraman/Editor. Sometimes, being so involved blinds me to what changes need to be made. That being said, the reason we shot this opening was to make it seem ordinary and plain...to establish the "hero" as an everyday guy. I can see why some may find it boring or such, but I am glad some liked it. This was our first movie. so I am definitely pleased with the feedback we have received. I am also pleased with the noise free beautiful images in the opening.

[Highlander3751]

"The Scotsman" here.

What can I say about "9-5 Ninja?" I got a call from msconce one day asking if I have my kilt handy, and the next thing I know we're filming a short. It was fun, and there are some things I'm sure we'd all change about it, but as a first effort I'm pleased.

Thanks for the comments and keep them coming. There will definitely be more films in the future, possibly with llamas. Or platypi; I hear they're non-union.





Where's my agent?

[jsemperparatus]

I personally did not like the "forest fires" line. I didn't hate it. I was more indifferent to it.

The Scot on the other hand was hilarious. That was one of my favorite parts in your film. That and the smoke, so your father must really be awesome.

I already turned in my ballot and gave this film pretty high ratings in all categories.

Another one of my favorite parts of the film was the music in the introduction. It was very Danny Elfman. I thought it was expertly composed and crafted. I felt very moved by it.

I'm glad you liked my smoke. I was 'smoking' literally all night. The funny thing is that I am a Military officer and was doing all the smoke production in my camoflage fatigues. I am also a Deputy.

Imagine... two ninjas attacking someone, a film crew, a 9 to 5 ninja hero in a $500 suit and tie, and a Captain in army cammies, and a big Scot in a kilt, all under bright lights in a parking lot, when another deputy pulls up...

He looked as if he thought he was in Area 51... Really wide eyes.

[shanyetta23]

I was highly entertained! Everything about it was fun. Sometimes having a comical look on something can be more enjoyable than getting all serious and dramatic. Thanks for a comical time.
-Shanyetta:Drogar-Evil(DBG):

[snodart]

There will definitely be more films in the future, possibly with llamas. Or platypi; I hear they're non-union.
LOL

First off. Nice work. The comments below are a bit nit picky, but I, like you, know that every little comment helps.

To he honest, when I saw the title of this, I wasn't expecting much. After watching it though I was wrong to do so.

I agree with the earlier poster about the wake up intro feeling a little student filmish. BUT, the camera work was great. Great dolly shots, transitions, and edits.

There were some cuts (2, I think) during the scene at the office of Master typing on the computer that felt a little jumpy compared to the smoothness of the others that surround it. I think the "rule" is to change the angle and depth from the subject by at least 20% to avoid this jumpy feel. This is being very picky, but your hard work deserves it!

The score was very good. I think the techno stuff toward the end worked fine with the style and scenes, but it didn't compare to the score at the beginning. Score over all was still great.

Impressive fight scenes with the limited time. I don't think many others could have pulled it off. The short part that was sped up worked well and I agree that a little more of this might have helped. I would be careful not to over do it though. Keep in mind this is coming from somebody who has zero experience with fight scenes.

The forest fires line at the end was funny, but maybe a little to cute in comparison to the rest. I had an idea of what was going to happen, but was expecting something like a throwing star to fly in front of the kid and knock out the flame... then maybe a wink from the Master or something.

Anyway, great work and GREAT attitude. Look forward to seeing more work. Some high scores on my ballot.

[Matt Sconce]

I was highly entertained! Everything about it was fun. Sometimes having a comical look on something can be more enjoyable than getting all serious and dramatic. Thanks for a comical time.
-Shanyetta:Drogar-Evil(DBG):

That was the goal! I am glad you liked it! We decided to take a comical approach (tongue in cheek style) to the superhero thing. We wanted to have a comedy action movie. I think we made a pretty good combo of the two. I hope everyone was able to laugh from this and enjoy the camera work, lighting, music, etc. :cheesy:
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[Matt Sconce]

I am so loving this contest!

[Heather]

Hello!!
This is msconce's wife. :) I am so proud of my hubby. He's done a lot of little videos for our family and church, but the look on his face when he got his DVX and was able to make his dream come true, was priceless. I know it's truly a love for him. When I saw the final product of 9 to 5 Ninja, (I was one of the grips :P ) I was stunned. The look of the DVX first of all, is so professional looking! It's just an amazing camera. The film itself, and in a non-biased opinion, turned out wonderfully! I could watch it over and over. The lighting and the camera angles and shots, make it look so professional. I'm so very proud of my man! :) thanks!

[Matt Sconce]

Hello!!
This is msconce's wife. :) I am so proud of my hubby. He's done a lot of little videos for our family and church, but the look on his face when he got his DVX and was able to make his dream come true, was priceless. I know it's truly a love for him. When I saw the final product of 9 to 5 Ninja, (I was one of the grips :P ) I was stunned. The look of the DVX first of all, is so professional looking! It's just an amazing camera. The film itself, and in a non-biased opinion, turned out wonderfully! I could watch it over and over. The lighting and the camera angles and shots, make it look so professional. I'm so very proud of my man! :) thanks!

:love4: Thanks babe.......*blushes*

[Matt Sconce]

This is Master Johnson A.K.A. "Nine to Five Ninja" I would like to thank all of you for the great comments so far. It is very encouraging. It has been such an honor working with Matt Sconce. He is so gifted, talented, and professional. Not to mention a great Martial Artist in his own right. I look forward to working with him on future projects. See you at the movies!!
:dankk2:

Just to let you all know. Master Dave Johnson was amazing to work with. I was a little concerned (since this was my first film) about directing actors. he made it effortless. He takes direction well, never complains, and is there even if your shoot stretches to three in the morning.........which it did........and he had to drive an hour home. He definitely added to the amazing group of people that worked on this film. I enjoyed his line "You forget so quickly" the most.......:Drogar-Evil(DBG):


"The Scotsman" here.

What can I say about "9-5 Ninja?" I got a call from msconce one day asking if I have my kilt handy, and the next thing I know we're filming a short. It was fun, and there are some things I'm sure we'd all change about it, but as a first effort I'm pleased.

Thanks for the comments and keep them coming. There will definitely be more films in the future, possibly with llamas. Or platypi; I hear they're non-union.

Where's my agent?

The Scotsman was great as well. I definitely think it will be Platypi for Horror fest! Rabid, stinking, viscious, poisonous, mutated Platypi! Aww I just gave away my secret plan of Horrorfest domination....:furious3:

[jsemperparatus]

Sounds very funny. Back to 9-5 Ninja...

What made you choose to make your hero just a seemingly normal business guy?

Also... Wombats... evil wombats would be good.

[Matt Sconce]

There will definitely be more films in the future, possibly with llamas. Or platypi; I hear they're non-union.

http://www.pbs.org/kratts/world/aust/plat/images/platypus.jpg

[Matt Sconce]

Sounds very funny. Back to 9-5 Ninja...

What made you choose to make your hero just a seemingly normal business guy?



We wanted the viewer to be wondering what was coming. We wanted to establish that he was an average guy until he received his (Bat Signal) "the knife in the tree" He then donned the Bandana of Power and saved the day.

[jsemperparatus]

We wanted the viewer to be wondering what was coming. We wanted to establish that he was an average guy until he received his (Bat Signal) "the knife in the tree" He then donned the Bandana of Power and saved the day.

One of my favorite parts is the "fwop-fwop-shhunk!" of the knife hitting the tree and the, "Mastuh... You are needed!" Then the 9-5 Ninja grunts. THAT IS SOOO FUNNY!!!

Nice job writing.

[Matt Sconce]

One of my favorite parts is the "fwop-fwop-shhunk!" of the knife hitting the tree and the, "Mastuh... You are needed!" Then the 9-5 Ninja grunts. THAT IS SOOO FUNNY!!!

Nice job writing.

I would have loved to have a follow focus for this scene or a 35mm adapter so I could get a great rack focus from the master to the knife. We added the Master you are needed" line because we felt like people would think the ninjas had thrown the knife at him. We definitely didn't want that. We wanted people to know it was calling him to action. I love that part too!

[jsemperparatus]

I would have loved to have a follow focus for this scene or a 35mm adapter so I could get a great rack focus from the master to the knife. We added the Master you are needed" line because we felt like people would think the ninjas had thrown the knife at him. We definitely didn't want that. We wanted people to know it was calling him to action. I love that part too!

Another part I really like is just as the Scot is shouting, "Laddies... leave me be!" the 9-5 Ninja appears in the background, the evil ninja looks back, and then when the evil ninja looks again he is way closer. I laugh when the evil ninja makes his 'ninja-esque exclaimation at his closer presence.

One of the great strengths of this fine short is the fantastic use of sound effects and the overall tying together of the sound appropriately to all important movements.

Even the removing of the 9-5 Ninja's dress coat is perfectly crisp adding a measured effect and displaying even 'clothes removal expertise' Kind of like Superman.

This is a great short!

[Blaine]

I got quite a few chuckles from this one. Your sound design was just right. Loved the Hong Kong martial arts sounds. I was waiting for one of those Hong Kong snap zooms (my term, I'm not sure what the correct name is), with accompanying sound effects.

My only beef is that I felt the fight scenes were over choreographed. There was no spontaneity to their movements and at times moved a little slow. You might have been able to solve this by speeding up the fight in post.

[jsemperparatus]

[QUOTE=Blaine]I got quite a few chuckles from this one. Your sound design was just right. Loved the Hong Kong martial arts sounds. I was waiting for one of those Hong Kong snap zooms (my term, I'm not sure what the correct name is), with accompanying sound effects.

You are so right. That was one of my favorite parts too. When the Scot runs off shouting "FFRRRREEEEEEDDDOOOOMMMM!" did you notice the perfect way the sound rolls away. Nice work. I think that the subtle humor is actually perfected by the great use of sound in this one.

This is one funny flick. In that vein, the smokey bear part at the end is the perfect tongue in cheek way to show the cliche hero doing what is needed each night.

[Matt Sconce]

Another part I really like is just as the Scot is shouting, "Laddies... leave me be!" the 9-5 Ninja appears in the background, the evil ninja looks back, and then when the evil ninja looks again he is way closer. I laugh when the evil ninja makes his 'ninja-esque exclaimation at his closer presence.

This was accomplished by using the tried and true method of Z99 and then F-stopping to the proper exposer. We did this for all the depth of field shots in the film. We were too poor to afford a 35mm adapter, and I think it worked out better this way. If we had the adapter, we would have had to light the night shots brighter, and we had already exhausted our light supply. This definitely was filled with humor. We hoped people would find it funny when the ninja is distracted by the "freedom" yelling Scotsman, then turns to find the master right behind him, grunting in comical ninja fashion.....

We also thought it would be funny, that the ninjas would not recognize who the 9-5 was until he put on the headband.


One of the great strengths of this fine short is the fantastic use of sound effects and the overall tying together of the sound appropriately to all important movements.

Even the removing of the 9-5 Ninja's dress coat is perfectly crisp adding a measured effect and displaying even 'clothes removal expertise' Kind of like Superman.

This is a great short!

Well thanks there. Almost all the sounds you hear were done ADR. We recorded them in a living room and using a nylon jacket for the whooshes and such. The strikes were made by balling up the jacket and hitting my palm. The others were made by modulating vocal sound effects.

[Matt Sconce]

I got quite a few chuckles from this one. Your sound design was just right. Loved the Hong Kong martial arts sounds. I was waiting for one of those Hong Kong snap zooms (my term, I'm not sure what the correct name is), with accompanying sound effects.

My only beef is that I felt the fight scenes were over choreographed. There was no spontaneity to their movements and at times moved a little slow. You might have been able to solve this by speeding up the fight in post.

Is the snap zoom, where it rapidly jumps to their eyes glaring or something? If so, we almost put those in, but could not fit them in the time. We made this under the 5 min mark, before the time was extended.

I can understand the choreography comment. This was my first attempt at putting a fight on film. Some things could be sped up and could turn out well, but all in all, I am pleased with the way it tunred out.

Thank you for the comments. :)

[jsemperparatus]

This was accomplished by using the tried and true method of Z99 and then F-stopping to the proper exposer. We did this for all the depth of field shots in the film. We were too poor to afford a 35mm adapter, and I think it worked out better this way. If we had the adapter, we would have had to light the night shots brighter, and we had already exhausted our light supply. This definitely was filled with humor. We hoped people would find it funny when the ninja is distracted by the "freedom" yelling Scotsman, then turns to find the master right behind him, grunting in comical ninja fashion.....

We also thought it would be funny, that the ninjas would not recognize who the 9-5 was until he put on the headband.



Well thanks there. Almost all the sounds you hear were done ADR. We recorded them in a living room and using a nylon jacket for the whooshes and such. The strikes were made by balling up the jacket and hitting my palm. The others were made by modulating vocal sound effects.

I was reminded of the old Superman TV show where Lois Lane can't tell that Clark Kent is Superman just because he wears glasses. The one where the evil man from the future shouts "DUH!, DUH!" at Lois Lane and calls her the 'stupidest woman in the world' for not recognizing Superman.

I liked it when the evil ninjas can't recognize 9-5 Ninja and he says, "You forget so quickly!" as if he has kicked their butts before. FUNNY!:nads:

[Blaine]

Is the snap zoom, where it rapidly jumps to their eyes glaring or something? If so, we almost put those in, but could not fit them in the time.
I was thinking of where you go from a medium closeup to a tighter closeup, extremely fast, almost like a jump cut but not quite that fast.

[jsemperparatus]

I was thinking of where you go from a medium closeup to a tighter closeup, extremely fast, almost like a jump cut but not quite that fast.

Fast but smooth cuts like that are used in Chinese martial arts films. Weren't they also used in spaghetti westerns?

[Matt Sconce]

Fast but smooth cuts like that are used in Chinese martial arts films. Weren't they also used in spaghetti westerns?

hmmm...maybe...*hears the sound of tumble weeds rolling by*


I was thinking of where you go from a medium closeup to a tighter closeup, extremely fast, almost like a jump cut but not quite that fast.

I see. I think they used this in kill bill. Thanks for the comments!

[Michael T]

I liked it and the smoke was a nice touch. I'd like to see it full blown so as to appreciate the dark shots and how crisp they seem to be.

[Blaine]

I think they used this in kill bill.
I can't remember, but I'd be shocked if they didn't the way Tarantino was paying homage to the martial arts films.

[jsemperparatus]

I loved all the smoke effects you had going on. The ninja outfits look superb. You had a great atmosphere going on. I was entertained by this short.

The fog just seems to appear when the 9-5 Ninja appears. At times it wafts from his head and over the field of battle. It turned out really nice.

[Matt Sconce]

I liked it and the smoke was a nice touch. I'd like to see it full blown so as to appreciate the dark shots and how crisp they seem to be.

I thought the images looked good in my LCD on the DVX100b while we were shooting. Like my former cameras, I expected the image to lose quality when shown on my 50inch LCD tv. I finished 9-5 Ninja, put it onto a DVD (by reinserting the pulldown) and thought "Well, it is compressed onto DVD, but hopefully it looks okay on the tv..." I played it and sat there in awe. there was no noise on the image. That was from a DVD! When I plug my camera into the LCD TV, it looks beyond phenomenal! This camera blows my mind!

I shot on the f5 scene file and turned the color temp to -3. Other than that, it is stock images, with magic bullet2 filters "Echo Blue" on them for the night scenes, and "Basic" on them for the day scenes. Thanks for the comments! I appreciate them greatly.:dankk2:

[jsemperparatus]

...In regards to the fight scenes again, I noticed a very intuitive and or rather prepared camera. As in... the camera moved at the right timed actually covering the action. I really applaud you guys on that, the camera op, director. fight director. and dp. Great job. By the by, I noticed that your footage was rather clean. Good job on that as well.

I agree. The use of high medium, low and very low angles give the viewer a special way of watching the action. It is almost like we, the viewers, are able to fly around the action viewing it from many positions, like gods.

That alone makes this one of my favorite shorts of the fest.

[Matt Sconce]

I agree. The use of high medium, low and very low angles give the viewer a special way of watching the action. It is almost like we, the viewers, are able to fly around the action viewing it from many positions, like gods.

That was my intention, and I am glad it translated well to the screen. I wanted the camera to give that feeling. When the ninja runs, you run with him, when the kicks drop low, so does the camera. That was the intent.

[jsemperparatus]

I thoroughly enjoyed the way the fight was filmed. Amazed actually! The low camera on the shot where he flips them both was awesome, and the way it cut with the preceeding and after shot was superb!
I would have liked for him to maybe say something while he was in the office. The manager was over excited and I didn't know why. But it fits with the mood, once the mood is set with the ninja dialogue. Maybe having the lead say something in that voice as he walked away or was leaving the office would have set that more.
Was the smoke added in post or did you use something while filming?
Hats off to the fight coreography and the shot selection!

It is interesting that the 9-5 Ninja doesn't reply to the boss. As a person who has worked in an office environment, you know what the boss is saying and thus don't need to hear anything there.

The 9-5 Ninja hero is just like us in that he calmly takes the crap that is being dished out at him. Yet, he still has 'Harmony' as the sign in the background slyly says. A little window on the soul of the 9-5 Ninja.

I really like that way the 9-5 Ninja makes a sound only when he is 'donning his hero persona'. That matches with the brilliant way this is writing the hero as a subtle cliche hero. Along with his even appearing at all trouble... even kid playing with fire.

[Beat Takeshi]

This is another i havnt gotten a chance to watch yet.

[Matthew B. Moore]

It's fun, but I've seen it before. I kept wanting something orginal to smack me in the face. You have ninjas...go off. I do respect (a great deal, I might add) the fact that all of the combat was practiced in detail.

[spidey]

very 80's but the ending destroyed the movie with the smokey the bear thing.

[Matt Sconce]

very 80's but the ending destroyed the movie with the smokey the bear thing.

Sorry you feel that way.:crybaby: I guess it depends on how serious people take the movie. We were trying to make a comical tongue in cheek movie. The Nine to Five Ninja not only saves Scotsmen from Ninjas, but protects our forest and youth :) . I may have a quirky sense of humor, but I love the last line. But I must admit, you either love it or hate it and I knew that when we put it in. Thanks for your honest opinions.

[Matt Sconce]

It's fun, but I've seen it before. I kept wanting something orginal to smack me in the face. You have ninjas...go off. I do respect (a great deal, I might add) the fact that all of the combat was practiced in detail.

A super hero Ninja Master that gets his power from a magic headband, saves Scotmen from ninjas and protects the forest is not original??


I am sorry you did not find what you were looking for in our short, and I thank you for the honest comments. :) I respectfully disagree, and think our film is incredibly original.:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

[Matt Sconce]

This is another i havnt gotten a chance to watch yet.

I am excited to see what you think. We had fun making it! :)

[Matthew B. Moore]

I've seen too many asian films.

Pardon my mechanical donkey.

Your ideas are original, but your story telling is what I'm talking about.

[Matt Sconce]

I've seen too many asian films.

Pardon my mechanical donkey.

Your ideas are original, but your story telling is what I'm talking about.

I see, thanks for clarifying. And I will definitely pardon your mechanical donkey....
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[Matt Sconce]

Good, bad, ugly? Loved it, hated it, want to marry it? Let us know what you thought, as it helps us become better film makers in the future. Thanks!

[Dahopafilms]

Matt,

I have no idea why I thought I had already posted my comments, but apparently not.

Of course, now the feedback is so huge that I may be repeating, but in any event ...

The stuff I really liked:

I thought this was nicely shot and really well lit.
The music was very good and fit the mood. Well done.
Dolly shots. Love 'em.
I thought the method of the hero getting a knife-message about someone in need of saving was great. Makes you wonder where the thrower was ...
Really funny line from the Scot. But ... (see comment below)
Your lead actor was very good. Nice job finding him.
The pacing was good throughout. And it kept my attention. Good job.

Now for the stuff that I had to think about:

Let's talk story for a sec. Why the office confrontation? What did it add? Was he getting fired? If so, why? Was it a method to get him out of the office? If so, I don't think it was necessary (see next comment)
You cut from a day scene where he gets the message to save the Scot, to a night scene of the fight. Did it take him several hours to get there? Hmmm.
Now about the Scot. Funny line. It worked. But soon thereafter we get the "Only you can prevent forest fires" line. The latter line seemed like a throwaway to me and wasn't, IMHO, worth the set-up. I would have quit with the "Freedom!" line, or added more comedic lines to emphasize the comedy. But maybe that's just me.
Parts of the fight scene worked for me and parts didn't. Loved the slow-mo and sped up parts. Loved the dual flip. But some of the other parts seemed too staged (like the one where the hero ducks the kick but seems to start going for the duck before the guy starts to kick). Please don't think this is a huge criticism - just an impression.
The ending with the hero taking a swing at the viewer was a little trite for me. Again, maybe that's just me.

Really liked this effort.

I read above where your wife commented about how proud she is of you for this. She should be.

Thanks for making this, and for letting us comment.

[Matt Sconce]

Matt,

I have no idea why I thought I had already posted my comments, but apparently not.

Of course, now the feedback is so huge that I may be repeating, but in any event ...

The stuff I really liked:

I thought this was nicely shot and really well lit.
The music was very good and fit the mood. Well done.
Dolly shots. Love 'em.
I thought the method of the hero getting a knife-message about someone in need of saving was great. Makes you wonder where the thrower was ...
Really funny line from the Scot. But ... (see comment below)
Your lead actor was very good. Nice job finding him.
The pacing was good throughout. And it kept my attention. Good job.Wow, these comments above encompass so many of the things we were striving for, it feels good to know they worked. I am hoping others feel this way too. We put a lot of effort into the pacing, lighting, cinematography and editing so I am glad they turned out well.


Now for the stuff that I had to think about:

Let's talk story for a sec. Why the office confrontation? What did it add? Was he getting fired? If so, why? Was it a method to get him out of the office? If so, I don't think it was necessary (see next comment)
You cut from a day scene where he gets the message to save the Scot, to a night scene of the fight. Did it take him several hours to get there? Hmmm.
Now about the Scot. Funny line. It worked. But soon thereafter we get the "Only you can prevent forest fires" line. The latter line seemed like a throwaway to me and wasn't, IMHO, worth the set-up. I would have quit with the "Freedom!" line, or added more comedic lines to emphasize the comedy. But maybe that's just me.
Parts of the fight scene worked for me and parts didn't. Loved the slow-mo and sped up parts. Loved the dual flip. But some of the other parts seemed too staged (like the one where the hero ducks the kick but seems to start going for the duck before the guy starts to kick). Please don't think this is a huge criticism - just an impression.
The ending with the hero taking a swing at the viewer was a little trite for me. Again, maybe that's just me.
I completely agree, after reviewing the fight that the actors go for the blocks and reactions before the actual strikes are thrown. I should have seen this as a director and informed them of it...ARG!:crybaby: The last line was a gamble. I find it hilarious and get 50/50 reviews of it. Ah well, I guess I can't please everyone......but I want to anyway!!!!


Really liked this effort.

I read above where your wife commented about how proud she is of you for this. She should be.

Thanks for making this, and for letting us comment.

You are welcome. We enjoyed making this movie and hope, although many have remained silent, that the people who watched it were entertained as well. Thank you to those of you who have helped us with your feedback. We always look forward to more.

[Matt Sconce]

Well, I have voted and am off to film a wedding. I'll be back on monday to respond to whatever posts have come my way. Thank you for the feedback already given!

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

hey man -- funny weird short with some pretty nice camera moves and lighting

I iked the dolly crossfade from the bed to the bathroom for example.

I would have liked if the story had envloved him being a nine to five ninja vs. working nine to 5 and THEN being a ninja, as it was, each hafl was unrelated and you didn't get full comic potential out of it as you would if they da job had interfreared or intruded into the ninja storyline or vice versa


nice fight coreography

then end shot of the kid is one of the best in the fest with the smoke and all, but not a lot of people notice great shots in a farce to bad because that one was awesome.

nice job, I was entertained and i laughed and it was different,

thanks
Jack

[Kaz]

When this ended I thought, "What the F%#K?" and then I realized there was a smile on my face.

I liked it. Good job!

[WilderWorks]

This was one of my favorites. It looked good enough, played it straight enough visually, it made the ridiculous moments ("Freedom!") actually work. I had a good time watching it, and the music really moved it along, particularly in the beginning, when little was happening. The only thing I was left wanting to know was why the master needed to get a 9-to-5 job, NOT because it was a story hole, but because I think there's a great joke hiding in that question, and maybe you could weave that into the opening, which some have noted as a bit slow. You know, a way to tie the two movie genres you're having fun with together -- why does a ninja end up in an office movie world? I know there's a gag there! :)

[Norm Sanders]

LOVED the opening titles and yours is the only one where I've ENJOYED watching the credits so far. Great idea to throw those BTS clips into the credits in that fashion.

I enjoyed most of the humor, though the forest fires part at the end was the only part that was just a touch too campy for my taste.

The camera & lighting were spot on for the most part, and thought the onsite smoke machine was very well handled.

My only real complaint for this one, which could have been the compression although the music sounded fine, was that the audio/dialogue just sounded way off ... like it was all through a pretty tough filter.

EDIT: Oh, and the editing in this was excellent.

[Matt Sconce]

hey man -- funny weird short with some pretty nice camera moves and lighting

I iked the dolly crossfade from the bed to the bathroom for example.

I would have liked if the story had envloved him being a nine to five ninja vs. working nine to 5 and THEN being a ninja, as it was, each hafl was unrelated and you didn't get full comic potential out of it as you would if they da job had interfreared or intruded into the ninja storyline or vice versa


nice fight coreography

then end shot of the kid is one of the best in the fest with the smoke and all, but not a lot of people notice great shots in a farce to bad because that one was awesome.

nice job, I was entertained and i laughed and it was different,

thanks
Jack

I appreciate the feedback. Linking the two together would have really helped bring the story together....Why didn't we think of that!!!??? :furious3:

The end shot with the Kid and the Master is my favorite part from a cinematographer's standpoint, but I understand what you are saying about a farce and recognition. I believe we have some extremely strong editing, Cinematography, and lighting,, but some people will not notice because of our story.

I am glad the movie made you laugh and kept you entertained. We hoped it would be a different element of the competition. By the way, we are already thinking....how can we make our movie look as good a s Jack's for Horrorfest.....:)


When this ended I thought, "What the F%#K?" and then I realized there was a smile on my face.

I liked it. Good job!


Haha! That is exactly the reaction I had when watching Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It was definitely our goal to bring a completely different element to Hero Fest. I am so glad you enjoyed it.



This was one of my favorites. It looked good enough, played it straight enough visually, it made the ridiculous moments ("Freedom!") actually work. I had a good time watching it, and the music really moved it along, particularly in the beginning, when little was happening. The only thing I was left wanting to know was why the master needed to get a 9-to-5 job, NOT because it was a story hole, but because I think there's a great joke hiding in that question, and maybe you could weave that into the opening, which some have noted as a bit slow. You know, a way to tie the two movie genres you're having fun with together -- why does a ninja end up in an office movie world? I know there's a gag there! :)

I LOVE that this was one of your favorites...It is a rewarding feeling to have someone appreciate our first movie and enjoy it that much. I love where you are going with discovering why the 9-5 Ninja needs a 9-5 job. That could have been hilarious!! I wish we had thought of it. :) Thanks for the feedback.



LOVED the opening titles and yours is the only one where I've ENJOYED watching the credits so far. Great idea to throw those BTS clips into the credits in that fashion.

I enjoyed most of the humor, though the forest fires part at the end was the only part that was just a touch too campy for my taste.

The camera & lighting were spot on for the most part, and thought the onsite smoke machine was very well handled.

My only real complaint for this one, which could have been the compression although the music sounded fine, was that the audio/dialogue just sounded way off ... like it was all through a pretty tough filter.

EDIT: Oh, and the editing in this was excellent.

It figures that I would learn how to master sound and use compression filters, AFTER the contest. I actually learned how to handle Adobe Audition yesterday and use multiband compressors and de-essers. Too bad I did not know before, but this is our first movie and all. Our horro-fest short will benefit from this new audio knowledge.

Thank you for the comments on the smoke machine. My dad was great at that. I would see him run across the set, twirling around with the smoke to give it volume and then I would yell "Action". It was a long process, but it turned out good in the end.

Thank you for the compliments on the editing. My co-director, David, and I worked hard on making it flow well and always focus the viewer on the story, istead of what cut or fade we used.


Man, I appreciate these comments! Before the contest, people talked about feedback being the reason they enter these contests, and now I understand why. Thanks again!:dankk2:

[Norm Sanders]

Hey that's AWESOME that your dad's so supportive & helping out on set like that! Has he ever worked on film before, or is he just excited to see you guys doing it & pitching in where he can?

How old are you guys too? Just asking because I'm more than likely REALLY envious that you're starting this well before I ever did. :)

[highland_watcher]

This was one of my favorites. It looked good enough, played it straight enough visually, it made the ridiculous moments ("Freedom!") actually work. I had a good time watching it, and the music really moved it along, particularly in the beginning, when little was happening. The only thing I was left wanting to know was why the master needed to get a 9-to-5 job, NOT because it was a story hole, but because I think there's a great joke hiding in that question, and maybe you could weave that into the opening, which some have noted as a bit slow. You know, a way to tie the two movie genres you're having fun with together -- why does a ninja end up in an office movie world? I know there's a gag there! :)

First of all, THANKS to all who have watched our movie. It is awesome to get recognition from people who's opinions we really value.

Here's the co-director finally on scene with an answer to the question about the need for an office job. When msconce and I were discussing it, since this was not a traditional hero movie, I felt we needed "traditional" hero gimmicks. The first that always comes to mind is the knife flinging into the tree. I pictured it kind of like the bat signal. Something to call him into action when he is needed. And the other two were straight from Superman. The first being the bandana that he dons to fight the ninjas. They[the ninjas] are kind of like Lois Lane when she sees Clark and he has his glasses on, he's just clark. But suddenly he removes the glasses and dons some spandex and he's superman. Not much changes, but to her and Metropolis, he is a completely different person. And the other Clark Kent thing is his job at the Daily Planet. Yeah, he's a superhero, but he's got to pay the bills somehow being he isn't as rich as Bruce Wayne. That's what I imagined when we made this thing. We went straight to the comics for some tools to move the hero along.

[Matt Sconce]

When msconce and I were discussing it, since this was not a traditional hero movie, I felt we needed "traditional" hero gimmicks. The first that always comes to mind is the knife flinging into the tree. I pictured it kind of like the bat signal. Something to call him into action when he is needed. And the other two were straight from Superman. The first being the bandana that he dons to fight the ninjas. They[the ninjas] are kind of like Lois Lane when she sees Clark and he has his glasses on, he's just clark. But suddenly he removes the glasses and dons some spandex and he's superman.

Yes, we definitely wanted the ninjas to be clueless until he puts the headband on. They say "Who are you?" and the 9-5 ninja says "You forget so quickly" (implying he has fought them before). He then dons the headband and suddenly they recognize him with the line "It is you!".

Oh, my co-director and I are both 25 years old.

[Highlander3751]

Yes, we definitely wanted the ninjas to be clueless until he puts the headband on. They say "Who are you?" and the 9-5 ninja says "You forget so quickly" (implying he has fought them before). He then dons the headband and suddenly they recognize him with the line "It is you!".

Oh, my co-director and I are both 25 years old.

Now that I think about it, except for msconce's dad being there as "Officer on Site" and Master Johnson as the "9-5 Ninja," I was the oldest person there, and I'm 26. The 2 ninjas are 19 and the kid is in Jr. High.

[Matt Sconce]

Now that I think about it, except for msconce's dad being there as "Officer on Site" and Master Johnson as the "9-5 Ninja," I was the oldest person there, and I'm 26. The 2 ninjas are 19 and the kid is in Jr. High.

You old fogey! :Drogar-Evil(DBG):

It was amazing how much I have learned from this process. It was invaluable to me. From all of the feedback I have received to the things I learned on set. I feel that I have a much better understanding of what to do next time to rise to the next level. I am very excited to begin the next project and look forward already to seeing the amazing things all of the filmmakers here at DVXuser.com make. I appreciate the comments. :)

[Larry Rutledge]

Note: I haven't read the other posts yet, so I may repeat comments that have already been made.

When I saw the opening scene with the alarm clock and a guy waking up, I wasn't hoping for much. Seems like an overused opening....but then I realized it fits in with the title and story, just a typical guy going about his normal daily life when suddenly he is forced to deal with terror and mayhem.

I really liked the shot with the knife, when it quick zooms away from him and the knife is framed there...cool :)

The dialog sounded a little hollow/echo-y, but I think that may have been a compression problem.

The scene when he faces down the ninjas was amusing...I liked the quick head turns (with sound effect)....reminded me of Saturday afternoon kung-fu theatre when I was kid.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I was really hoping for more "typical" superhero films...but I guess everyone had other ideas.

The fighting looked good, well choreographed...though a little slow at times. It seemed too much like they were working through pre-arranged moves. Would like to have seen it sped up a bit more, really play into that stereotypical ninja fight sequence.

Good job.

[jsemperparatus]

Note: I haven't read the other posts yet, so I may repeat comments that have already been made.

When I saw the opening scene with the alarm clock and a guy waking up, I wasn't hoping for much. Seems like an overused opening....but then I realized it fits in with the title and story, just a typical guy going about his normal daily life when suddenly he is forced to deal with terror and mayhem.

I really liked the shot with the knife, when it quick zooms away from him and the knife is framed there...cool :)

The dialog sounded a little hollow/echo-y, but I think that may have been a compression problem.

The scene when he faces down the ninjas was amusing...I liked the quick head turns (with sound effect)....reminded me of Saturday afternoon kung-fu theatre when I was kid.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I was really hoping for more "typical" superhero films...but I guess everyone had other ideas.

The fighting looked good, well choreographed...though a little slow at times. It seemed too much like they were working through pre-arranged moves. Would like to have seen it sped up a bit more, really play into that stereotypical ninja fight sequence.

Good job.

I for one am glad that many filmakers chose to be creative in their positing of 'superheroness'. To have a guy in an office in a $500 suit that is also a Ninja master fighter by night... with 'knife signals' and 'watchers' informing the 'Master' of when he is needed is awesome! This is a tremendous farcical comedy short. It reminds me of the humor of the old Batman TV show, with the hero who had a paunch and a sidekick who always said, "HOLY ______(whatever)" all of the time.

[jsemperparatus]

You old fogey! :Drogar-Evil(DBG):
:)

Hey watch it you young one... Some of us ARE fogeys!

[jsemperparatus]

LOVED the opening titles and yours is the only one where I've ENJOYED watching the credits so far. Great idea to throw those BTS clips into the credits in that fashion.

I enjoyed most of the humor, though the forest fires part at the end was the only part that was just a touch too campy for my taste.

The camera & lighting were spot on for the most part, and thought the onsite smoke machine was very well handled.

My only real complaint for this one, which could have been the compression although the music sounded fine, was that the audio/dialogue just sounded way off ... like it was all through a pretty tough filter.

EDIT: Oh, and the editing in this was excellent.

I agree, the editing was excellent. I think that the sound is one of the strongest aspects of this film. The sound quality brought to the web could have been better.

[Matt Sconce]

I agree, the editing was excellent. I think that the sound is one of the strongest aspects of this film. The sound quality brought to the web could have been better.

Seeing as we learned about mastering audio after we sent in our movie, the audio dialogue could have been better. It will be for Horror Fest!:Drogar-Evil(DBG): MAUHHAHAHAHA *In an evil scary voice*

[Matt Sconce]

Hey watch it you young one... Some of us ARE fogeys!

At least you are honest...hahaha!:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

[Matt Sconce]

I am surprised the fog turned out so well in our short. The wind was always changing, sometimes in mid shot, and it made getting fog coverage tricky. I have two favorite fog moments. One is the first time it cuts to a wide shot of the ninjas and the 9-5 ninja. I just like the way it moves. The second is the wide shot including the master and the fire kid. The way the fog swirls with the wind was great there. To get the wind effect we had someone crouched with an air blower shooting it up at the kid.

[jsemperparatus]

I am surprised the fog turned out so well in our short. The wind was always changing, sometimes in mid shot, and it made getting fog coverage tricky. I have two favorite fog moments. One is the first time it cuts to a wide shot of the ninjas and the 9-5 ninja. I just like the way it moves. The second is the wide shot including the master and the fire kid. The way the fog swirls with the wind was great there. To get the wind effect we had someone crouched with an air blower shooting it up at the kid.

I like the angle of the shot upward at the kid. It almost seems as if you are inside the ground ahead of the kid, although I know you were set up down a hill, and very nearly sliding off onto a state highway with traffic. Hehehe.

[jsemperparatus]

Seeing as we learned about mastering audio after we sent in our movie, the audio dialogue could have been better. It will be for Horror Fest!:Drogar-Evil(DBG): MAUHHAHAHAHA *In an evil scary voice*

MONSTERFEST sounds fun... :kali: :violent5::nads:

Need smoke? Ha!

[jsemperparatus]

First of all, THANKS to all who have watched our movie. It is awesome to get recognition from people who's opinions we really value.

Here's the co-director finally on scene with an answer to the question about the need for an office job. When msconce and I were discussing it, since this was not a traditional hero movie, I felt we needed "traditional" hero gimmicks. The first that always comes to mind is the knife flinging into the tree. I pictured it kind of like the bat signal. Something to call him into action when he is needed. And the other two were straight from Superman. The first being the bandana that he dons to fight the ninjas. They[the ninjas] are kind of like Lois Lane when she sees Clark and he has his glasses on, he's just clark. But suddenly he removes the glasses and dons some spandex and he's superman. Not much changes, but to her and Metropolis, he is a completely different person. And the other Clark Kent thing is his job at the Daily Planet. Yeah, he's a superhero, but he's got to pay the bills somehow being he isn't as rich as Bruce Wayne. That's what I imagined when we made this thing. We went straight to the comics for some tools to move the hero along.


Nice to hear from ya.

[Matt Sconce]

MONSTERFEST sounds fun... :kali: :violent5::nads:

Need smoke? Ha!

I am definitely excited about Horror Fest. For this one, we got our camera and then had one month to plan, script, cast, storyboard, get location, choreograph, shoot, cut, foley, get music, do effects and put out an end product. It was insanely stressful. Now I have 4 months to put this together......Run in fear........and get your diapers because Horror Fest will rock!

[Cryogenic Filmworks]

For the most part I liked the camera work and lighting. Some spots seemed a little too dark. Like that transitional dolly shot at the beginning. The music towards the end with all the fighting seemed too muffled. After he gets called to the office the audio seems to take on the muffled, slightly reverby sound. Nice fight sequence. Congrats. Oh yea, liked the way you did the opening title with the throwing stars. :thumbsup:

[Matt Sconce]

For the most part I liked the camera work and lighting. Some spots seemed a little too dark. Like that transitional dolly shot at the beginning. The music towards the end with all the fighting seemed too muffled. After he gets called to the office the audio seems to take on the muffled, slightly reverby sound. Nice fight sequence. Congrats. Oh yea, liked the way you did the opening title with the throwing stars. :thumbsup:

Yeah, we definitely had some audio issues. I've learned a lot from that process. I have never heard that the shot was too dark, and never thought that before. Interesting. Anyone else think the shot was too dark? and why?

[Matt Sconce]

I would have liked if the story had envloved him being a nine to five ninja vs. working nine to 5 and THEN being a ninja, as it was, each hafl was unrelated and you didn't get full comic potential out of it as you would if they da job had interfreared or intruded into the ninja storyline or vice versa

thanks
Jack

I just realized a little link. The entire day he is wanting to put on the headband, and he is carying it with him so there is a connection it is just very vague. Also we see the different Kanji Symbols throughout the first part of the movie. Oh well, live and learn.

[penfever]

The stylized dialogue was a lot of fun here. I thought the last line about forest fires was particuarly hilarious, but then, I like random things, so what can I say.
The kung fu sequences were OK, but could have used more rehearsal. I mean, I understand we're not talking Peking Opera here, but when you shoot a sequence like Tsui Hark, you expect Tsui Hark performances, and your stars weren't quite at that level.
Also, what's the point of making the first half of the film so long? It really drags out the part we don't care about (his boring life) at the expense of the part we DO care about (his exciting ninja-life). The point was made by the combination of the title and the toothbrush shot. The whole office sequence was basically extraneous (although a little bit is funny).
I like your hero - I think he needs another movie to play around in.
Thanks, see you next fest.
-Ben

[the_on_call_kid]

"Kid with Fire" here, well it sounds like most of you all really liked 9-5 Ninja! And thats great! It was really fun to film, and Matt is awesome! (And you to "scott") FREEEDOMMM!!!! LOL, Matt always had a smile on his face and has the patience I think you would need to be a great director. Isnt the randomness in this film great?! And when I watched the movie after it was finished, I was amazed! Mostly Amazed that the fighting scene they filmed a parking lot came out so...great! AWESOME WORK MATT! (and tall guy)

-Josh Borden a.k.a "KID WITH FIRE"