Three cameras, DVX, consumer, XL2-my daughters wedding.

[newtodvx100a]

This is my daughter's wedding with a three camera mix.
http://e-motionsmedia.com/Videos/D&Bmix1.mov
http://e-motionsmedia.com/Videos/D&Bmix2.mov

[art metal art]

umm, yeah okay.....great?

Dude make this thing special!!!!!!
It's your own daughters wedding and you have got to edit this, make it so emotional that you cry just turning on your computer! This is just a church service with flowers, dresses and tuxes.
What would Jesus do?
Well we know he doesn't use a MAC, so open up your PC, select some amazing Gospel music and make this a love production!

sheesh, I can't believe you. :)

[art metal art]

Here are some special wedding videos. This company has some really beautiful works on their site.

http://www.edit1media.com/

[newtodvx100a]

Thanks for the critisizim, I will see what I can do to change it. :violent5:

[thatkidbret]

Very nice. A lot of heart put into it.

[Michael T]

Looks nice and the different camera angles helps. One thing is the audio needs some editing in that you can clean this up a lot very easy and quickly. Wether your using fcp or Premeire you can use pro tools or sound track pro with mac to sample the hiss and other nosies and remove them. To remove unwanted sounds in fcp or premeire you can always use a multiband equalizer and go in and cut off the top 3 or 4 bands which wont hurt the vocal or musical range of sound but will take out the hiss and make you sound track much more pleasing to the ear. You can keep cuting off the top end to remove as mush hiss as possible without hurting the quality by adjusting to what sounds good to you. Clean audio helps make good video great.

[newtodvx100a]

Michael T. I need to do more for sure. I had the audio pretty good but in the middle of the singing the sound level went skyhigh and it was overmodulatiing and came out very scratchy sounding. I worked it over with equalizers but it started sounding kinda flat. I kinda went the middle ground. I will give it another go round. Thanks for shareing your opinion. It is much appriciated.

[newtodvx100a]

Thatkidbret, thanks for the kind words. I'm trying to put something very special together for her. It was interesting to see the difference in the xl2 and the dvx. The xl2 really showed great detail but not great color.

[art metal art]

Ahhhhhhhh!!!!
I watched about until the Bride comes out the door because it seems to be downloading kinda slow from my work connection.
What a difference you made with the opening!
I did that last year with the photo frames and pictures in them and also digitals in NLE. It was with a consumer camera and that was the point I wanted a pro-sumer camera.
Anyways great job with the beginning and adding music, such a difference.
What camera was where?
I am guessing DVX at the door and XL2 at the stage?
The video doesn't match from 1 camera to other and some CC, Magic Bullet, a mask or feathered blurred edges would be nice too.
Can't wait to see what your final looks like!

By the way hope I wasn't too mean but I am the father of 4 girls and 1 son. Also when you have great content like this and the whole website is full of people diggin for content then all you have to do is artistically weave it together.

[art metal art]

Oh man, I just finished the first video. The Groom singing to his Bride is very emotional.

[newtodvx100a]

The pictures in the foyer of the church were all done by my daughter. The groom singing to her really choked me up for sure. Here is a render with Magic Bullit , It is from the second clip. I like it better then the non MB clips. Tell me what you think.


Hhttp://e-motionsmedia.com/Videos/D&Bremix2filtered.mov

[art metal art]

It looks like MB is blowing out the whites and making details go away. Kinda like the whites are plugged into a 240 volt plug instead of 120 volt :)

[newtodvx100a]

It is blowing out the whites but I love the glowing bride look. From the back of the church it is so dramatic.

[newtodvx100a]

Your guess was right on regarding the cameras. The third camera was a small sony. It looked pretty good under the lighting but lost color quickly in the dark areas. I could have dumped the color abit on the DVX but didn't want to try to match the lesser camera. The sony operater has since purchased a sony 2100 and we plan to try some more weddings. Wish he had a DVX. I love the color and 24p.

[art metal art]

I'm really surprised at the difference between XL-2 and the DVX with its perfect colors. Maybe it was a settings thang with the Canon? I would think that it would be better for the price of it.
I'll watch again but where is the small sony sitting?

[newtodvx100a]

The small sony is looking from the left down in front of the church. The cannon was just purchased and the camera man wasn't used to it. He just put it on "easy". :-) Look at the bride's veil detail. The xl2 is unbelievably crisp in detail but color wise very flat. The DVX's color are better then real life but is very soft.

[art metal art]

What camera was on the tripod behind the seated people and up on a platform?

[newtodvx100a]

The xl2 was on the platform, DVX was dead center behind everyone and the sony was off to the right down front.

[mystico]

I'm really surprised at the difference between XL-2 and the DVX with its perfect colors. Maybe it was a settings thang with the Canon? I would think that it would be better for the price of it.
I'll watch again but where is the small sony sitting?

I had this very same reaction. Wow, the DVX is an amazing cam. Is there really THAT much of a difference? I kept thinking, ok, the XL2 HAD to have poor white balance setting or something. Were you shooting 24p with the DVX?

Anyway, nice shoot. This perfectly shows difference between 3-cam wedding vs 1 or even two. You cut quite well from one cam angle to next. But more editing needed for sure. First, no need to show the person opening the door just before wedding court began walking out. Also, not sure I would show each and every groomsman and bridesmaid from BOTH angles (back shot w/DVX AND front shot w/Canon). Just a thought. Will make more comments once I watch again.

[mystico]

What camera was on the tripod behind the seated people and up on a platform?

I'm thinking maybe the church has its cams already set for regular services. That was likely the one on the platform in back on tripod. Just setting there not being used. I might have popped a tape in and asked to use it.

[mystico]

It looks like MB is blowing out the whites and making details go away. Kinda like the whites are plugged into a 240 volt plug instead of 120 volt :)

OK, I just looked at the remix. Looks ok but artmetalart is right about the blow-out. At times, looks like there's a strobe light shining down on the bride's back and some of the bridesmaids. Other shots look like bride has a lamp under her veil. And the little ringbearer dude has the glow-worm effect on his shirt. I'd say the MB was a bit overdone.

Overall though, this was quite well done. I didn't catch whether you said this already, but was this your first wedding shoot? This being your daughter's I'm sure will make you make it special! Nicely framed shots, nice blending from one angle to next, nice cam placement, etc. The ONLY problem seems to be the colour matching. Nice job!

[newtodvx100a]

I'm getting great ideas from everyone. I'm thinking I might just ad MB to a few shots and maybe drop a matt and highlight the bride and groom in one shot. I'm going to get rid of the door opening, and make other changes. Sometimes I have gone over this so much I don't see these things that need changing. Kinda like writing a report or letter and not seeing the small detail cause you are focused on the overall project. Everyone has helped alot. This wasn't my first wedding but because I was in it it made things very hard. :-)

[art metal art]

I bet!
How do you pan a camera when you're escorting the Bride????

[xx10shl]

umm, yeah okay.....great?

Dude make this thing special!!!!!!
It's your own daughters wedding and you have got to edit this, make it so emotional that you cry just turning on your computer! This is just a church service with flowers, dresses and tuxes.
What would Jesus do?
Well we know he doesn't use a MAC, so open up your PC, select some amazing Gospel music and make this a love production!

sheesh, I can't believe you. :)
Milo,
Can you envision artists arguing about a medium that is inherently superior to another? (oils vs. pastels. Marble vs. garnite, etc.) 'Lo, art is subjective!
I have both a PC and a Mac and as an artist, I use whichever one is more in tune with what I am trying to do. Just as old colors would not work for Monet, old methods may not work for others when a particular piece calls for different technology. This means that the PC sits a long time without getting used. I just want to do projects, and don't care about the differences, just ease of use.
Let the techies battle about operating system superiority,you will make some great films, however you can.
Steve

[art metal art]

I agree and was only trying to lighten up my criticism by throwing some humour out. I definitely don't care what system someone uses. They are only tools.
Ya know I really don't like favorites at all. My son asked what some of my favorites were and I told him I don't fall into that kind of labeling and pigeon holing. I like all numbers, all colors and all women with big brains. :)
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[newtodvx100a]

I hear you both. I have a PC and only been using Mac for about a year. Some things I need both for. Some software I have on the PC I don't have on the MAC and so forth. It would be nice if one machine could do it all. I havn't been able to convert a good wmv file with the mac, I usually put it over to the pc and convert to FCP. Do any of you use flip4mac pro and if so, does it do wmv conversion?

[newtodvx100a]

Art metal Art,

I had my wife take over the camera in the beginning and as soon as I walked my daughter down the Isle I ran back and went to work. Not as much fun as enjoying the wedding but how could I not try to make her something very special. I did shoot in 60i cause I wanted to be the same as the other two.

[tomyboy342000]

The footage looks good, but the DVX/XL2 intercut, looks sort-of noticable. Good shots. Very nice work.

[newtodvx100a]

One thing always seems to happen. I always wish I had done somethings differently. Some of the shots are framed the way they are cause the camera person is in the direct camera shot and the Xl2 had grooms men in the way for part of the time. It seems that it is kinda take what you can get with the photographer having the right of passage.

[newtodvx100a]

Michael T. Thanks for the advise. I learned some stuff on my day off about sweetning the audio. It sounds much better. Thanks again. Also changed some of the editing. :)



Looks nice and the different camera angles helps. One thing is the audio needs some editing in that you can clean this up a lot very easy and quickly. Wether your using fcp or Premeire you can use pro tools or sound track pro with mac to sample the hiss and other nosies and remove them. To remove unwanted sounds in fcp or premeire you can always use a multiband equalizer and go in and cut off the top 3 or 4 bands which wont hurt the vocal or musical range of sound but will take out the hiss and make you sound track much more pleasing to the ear. You can keep cuting off the top end to remove as mush hiss as possible without hurting the quality by adjusting to what sounds good to you. Clean audio helps make good video great.

[art metal art]

Any updates to your wedding video?

[newtodvx100a]

Yes, I did away with the magic bullet filter and bought a book on color correction and made changes there. Did some cutting and also worked on the sound. I think it is much better. I havn't posted anything new on the web site. I haven't had time to play with the site or files.