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Rygh
05-16-2006, 11:19 AM
Time is getting short and our promised FS-100 drives are still not here. So I need to go plan B. I plan to buy some 8g P2 cards I found and record 720/24pn to get as much time on the cards I can. I will have my G4 in the field hooked up to a 500g G-Drive, and as far as I can tell I can just take my P2 footage and transfer it on my G-Drive as long as I make seperate folders for each card. So far so good.

My question is will I have an issue up the road with 24pn footage and 24p footage (when I get the FS-100). I plan to edit on FCP 5.1 (i was an AVID editor, so sorry in advance for this next question). I am not quite sure how this workflow will work. How do I mix the 2 together so that I can work with them?

Tim

imgentertainment@mac
05-16-2006, 11:46 AM
well you will have to use cinema tools to get the raw 23.98 footage out of the 60p footage. At least this is how I belive the FS100 records the footage. But as for a problem it will take some extra m steps in post but not a big problem.

Rygh
05-17-2006, 08:42 AM
Yeah you are right about the FS-100. With the new FCP 5.1 there is a check box that you can activate to take out the extra frames. Thanks for the info.

nsoltz
05-17-2006, 10:05 AM
Just remember if shooting variable frame rate footage in 24p to the Firestore, do not remove the extra frames when importing to FCP. The Panasonic Frame Rate converter plug-in will do that for you.

Ned Soltz

Rygh
05-17-2006, 10:30 AM
You got me there, I guess it will all make sence when you are doing it. But just so that I get this clear, if I am shooting 24p on the Firestore with a variable frame rate of 60 (for slow motion), the panasonic frame rate converter plug-in will pull the redundant frames. Where is the Panasonic Frame Rate converter plug-in located? With in the camera or on FCP?

Which also begs me to ask this question. How well does the firestore do variable frame rates from 24p? Can it? If so, does it do a good job?

Tim

nsoltz
05-17-2006, 10:58 AM
Just did some variable frame rate yesterday and it looks identical to variable frame rate done in 24pN to P2 cards. The Frame Rate Converter is on the FCP 5.1 crossgrade installation disk in the Extras folder. There is also a version linked on the Varicam site. I'll be doing a tutorial on this as soon as I can get somebody to shoot it with me. Record to Firestore say 720 24p 60fps. Ingest in FCP. I found it does not work if you ingest files to a bin; it seems to work only if loose in browser. Perhaps I found a bug in FCP. Anyway, you simply drop the FRC plug-in into your FCP plug-ins folder and it appears under the Tools Menu. Highlight the clip in the Browser. Invoke Tools->Frame Rate Converter and you're good to go. Of course, you will either have to read the documentation or await my video.

But Panasonic/Apple caution that it does not work with footage with pulldown removed. So, uncheck that little box in FCP 5.1.

BTW, the version of the plug-in in the FCP 5.1 disk is 1.1 while the version I found on the Panny site is 1.0.

Now, nobody do a video tutorial of this before I do. Or if you do it, don't be as witty, articulate and well-dressed as me...

Ned

Rygh
05-17-2006, 11:12 AM
That is great news! Thanks Ned.

Can't wait to see your tutorial.