View Full Version : Watching dailies.
Ernie Kovacs
05-10-2006, 09:20 AM
What's the best way to watch your footage at the end of the day when you've got a harddrive full of offloaded P2 cards and you want to watch them? I use a Mac Laptop. and will have an HD monitor
Is there a better way than waiting to import it all into Final Cut pro. Can I play the clips on the external harddrive through the camera somehow??
Any ideas out there? I really want field producers to feel like this camera is easy to work with. Imagine they are behind me tapping their foot while the 80 Gigs of footage I just shot is transfering to Final cut......
Also in the room is a coat hanger, a pack of rubberbands, and a pencil sharpener.
Thanks,
Ernie
aravance
05-10-2006, 03:28 PM
This is the workflow I used at a music video shoot I directed.
All you need is a Mac Laptop, a field monitor, and a "gopher" (extra hand).
We set the laptop and monitor up on a table during the shoot. Whenever I filled a p2 card, my "gopher" came and exchanged it for an empty one and then proceeded to dump/import the p2 card directly into Final Cut. Once that was done, he just waited until I filled the other one and then we just did the same thing over and over again.
This is the best way that I've found. It's a continuous workflow, and you can even review the footage right then and there and even make notes about certain takes, timecode, rename clips, etc.
So I would say bring the laptop and field monitor on the shoot with you if you can, and dump the p2 cards directly into Final Cut while you are there using the PCMCIA card slot.
This will solve your problem of waiting to review the footage at the end of the day.
RichardVClark
05-10-2006, 06:09 PM
Great idea aravance, I will defiantly try that.
Shane Ross
05-10-2006, 09:33 PM
There is a program which will allow you to view the footage in it's raw state. Actually, a couple. If you have a PC laptop, Panasonic makes a P2 Viewer (Windows only) that allows you to look at the footage. View only.
On the Mac side, if you don't want to have to use FCP to convert the footage and import it, then you have HD LOG by imagineproducts.com. This is a more robust program that is basically a full blow assistant editor station. You can view the footage, name the footage, manage the footage and convert it to QT for FCP Very handy, expecially if you want to view dailies right away.
Being a fully blown out logging software, it will cost some money. $699 for the Gold version, which can read the MXF files that the HVX generates. Don't think of it as simply a viewer...it is logging software. And it can read pretty much any format of footage you throw at it. Very handy.
Mark Smith
05-11-2006, 05:15 AM
I am curious about HD log and am seriously considering a purchase. My question is to people who have used it what exactly does it allow you to do with MXF files and is it worth the money?
Shane Ross
05-11-2006, 01:16 PM
I have it but have yet to look it over. I might have time this weekend to play with it and see what it does, so when I do I will report my findings.
Mark Smith
05-11-2006, 06:37 PM
Thanks Shane... I would love to hear about it. I'm about to start a project with about 12 shooting days so there will be a deecent amount of footage to manage. If HD is helpful with that task I wouldn't mind springing for it.
AtlantaFilms
05-14-2006, 09:30 PM
Is it possible to record in HD format to the P2 cards while at the same time recording in DVCAM format to a DVCAM tape? Then just watch the DVCAM tape as your dallies.
Mark Smith
05-18-2006, 11:21 AM
I just wanted to give this a bump... Shane have you hada chance to unpack HD log yet. I am really curious if it can be used to view p2 files on a laptop. Say for instance you had a FW drive that you had copied P2 cards to in the field, would you then be able to cable up to that drive and browse/ those files?
I downloaded the demo but can't quite tell if this capability is there...
Is it possible to record in HD format to the P2 cards while at the same time recording in DVCAM format to a DVCAM tape? Then just watch the DVCAM tape as your dallies.
No, not an option.
Jim Carswell
05-18-2006, 03:44 PM
I went to the HDLog website to learn more about the product. If you go to the support section of the website there is quite a bit of information regarding setup, use, etc of the software. The address again was www.imagineproducts.com.
Jim
bikefilms
05-18-2006, 04:07 PM
Guys,
All great info. Looking forward to checking out HD Log. Hope it works well with our FS-100.
-a
Mark Smith
05-18-2006, 04:26 PM
Spoke at some length today with Imagine products and found out the HD log will do what I want which is to view P2 files from a hd or p2 store on my laptop with the proper codec installed, Stress on proper codec...
Since I don't have the dvcpro HD codec installed on my laptop I can't see the HD footage I'm shooting !doh!
No, not an option.
You can downconvert your footage to Mini-DV tape and watch your dailies from there. You can't record "realtime"on both media, however. What you can do is, after recording everything on P2, make the camera create a copy in Mini-dv. I've been doing this- the footage looks great in Mini-dv, too.