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mjeppsen
04-24-2006, 11:43 AM
JVC released HD100U upgrades - the HD200U and HD250U.

True 4:2:2 straight from the chip, 60P (similar to the Varicam), improved cine-gamma, 16/35mm lens mount options, on-chip image flip for adapters like the RedRock Micro, some really cool stuff.

I'd post a link to a detailed rundown, but that move got my hand slapped and the thread deleted a few minutes ago. Suffice to say that JVC will do well with these cameras...

oneinfiniteloop
04-24-2006, 11:44 AM
What codec are they using for 4:2:2?

redindian
04-24-2006, 11:51 AM
HD200U = $7995 (added 60P and flip image LCD)... too much imho..

i think it is still HDV...

where does it say its 4:2:2? The press release doesnt mention it... (http://snipurl.com/pm7g)

mjeppsen
04-24-2006, 11:59 AM
What codec are they using for 4:2:2?
I don't have any info on that, unfortunately. Well, on tape it's got to be vanilla HDV.
I do know that the directo-to-disk option they announced will supposedly create FCP compatible .mov files, so ingest time is saved.

mjeppsen
04-24-2006, 12:04 PM
HD200U = $7995 (added 60P and flip image LCD)... too much imho.. Consider that the image flip feature saves a 35mm adapter user from dropping $1300 additional bux on a Marshall 7" LCD. Oh, and that flip is done ON-CHIP, so you don't have to mess with it in post.
As a side note, I find it hard to believe that you are sneezing at 60P...


i think it is still HDV...
where does it say its 4:2:2? The press release doesnt mention it... (http://snipurl.com/pm7g) Nope. It doesn't. Just at my site. A little birdie told me... :-)

dannyboyfl
04-24-2006, 12:17 PM
So is there any talk about being able to hookup a CCU? I have seen pics of a CCU hooked up to a HD100, but none on the market to buy.

Brandon Rice
04-24-2006, 12:18 PM
Pretty cool news from the JVC camp...

They are Them
04-24-2006, 12:19 PM
wow, really cool

Rich Lee
04-24-2006, 12:28 PM
is this discussion even allowed anymore on these boards?

How long before this thread is closed?

i kid

Spartacus
04-24-2006, 12:31 PM
is this discussion even allowed anymore on these boards?

How long before this thread is closed?

i kid

hehehe

Brandon Rice
04-24-2006, 12:34 PM
It's NAB news in the NAB section. I think it's perfectly fine.

tlorenzo
04-24-2006, 12:36 PM
I'd post a link to a detailed rundown, but that move got my hand slapped and the thread deleted a few minutes ago.

What?! Who deleted your post and why?!

Rich Lee
04-24-2006, 12:57 PM
It's NAB news in the NAB section. I think it's perfectly fine.

hehehe...yeah...but...this is DVXuser.com -- The online community for filmmaking (http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/index.php)

Brandon Rice
04-24-2006, 01:08 PM
We have a other cameras section... c'mon fellas, lets be cool about it... plus this is cool news about the new JVC stuff anyway.

Rich Lee
04-24-2006, 01:10 PM
We have a other cameras section... c'mon fellas, lets be cool about it... plus this is cool news about the new JVC stuff anyway.+

dude, im kiddin...chill :love4:

Filmjunkie677
04-24-2006, 01:11 PM
Hey Rich, I just saw your short on triggerstreet. Awesome stuff!!!

Okay, thread hijack over.

Brandon Rice
04-24-2006, 01:12 PM
word... my bad, sometimes I take thing too literally.

HowdyDoo
04-24-2006, 01:37 PM
I wonder if the SSE will be resolved with the new JVC? Seems like it should at least be improved upon.

The Machinist
04-24-2006, 02:27 PM
I thought that the SSE was already resolved in newer models of the HD100?

HowdyDoo
04-24-2006, 02:29 PM
I heard the firmware update didn't provide a complete fix but did reduce it enough to where it wasn't much of a problem anymore. Apparently it was still there but you had to really mess with the settings to get it to show up.


I don't know much about the JVCs so I could be way off base.

Steve55
04-24-2006, 02:44 PM
JVC released HD100U upgrades - the HD200U and HD250U.

They are not upgrades, they are aditional models to JVC's ProHD line up. Remember, the HD250 cost $9,000 with no lens, add a decent lens to that and you have a $13,000 camcorder; hardly an intro level HDV model. The GY-HD100 and GY-HD101 remain the bottom of the range ProHD models. JVC have no plans to discontinue them; well, not yet anyway.

Fugitive
04-24-2006, 09:51 PM
"the link was removed..."

So you are not allowed to say good things about other cameras on this forum. Thats a shame. It doesnt make sense anyways after this on the forum guidelines:

"This site is not affiliated with Panasonic, and users are free to express their opinions on any piece of equipment. "


Where is your sense of justice people?

Tibby
04-24-2006, 10:21 PM
The JVC HD200 is gonna take a lot of heat away from the HVX200. Actually it's gonna take a lot of heat away from the Canon XL-H1 too. The slo-mo and the ability to attach prime lenses to it pretty much seals it. I'm buying this next year unless something better comes out.

Emanuel
04-24-2006, 11:00 PM
The JVC HD200 is gonna take a lot of heat away from the HVX200. Actually it's gonna take a lot of heat away from the Canon XL-H1 too.Why would it be? It's just 1280x720...


I'm buying this next year unless something better comes out.LINK (http://www.red.com/format_sizes/index.html)

Danilo Del Tufo
04-25-2006, 01:01 AM
This new Jvc camera is full of mysteries...we don't know a thing 'bout it...

Danilo Del Tufo
04-25-2006, 01:03 AM
Emanuel do you think to buy Silicon? In the forum it's confirmed that they will ship at september...I really like Red camera...but we must wait another year or so to buy Red...what do you think? Can we wait forever?
And have you received my drawings...?

Emanuel
04-25-2006, 01:13 AM
Emanuel do you think to buy Silicon? In the forum it's confirmed that they will ship at september...I really like Red camera...but we must wait another year or so to buy Red...what do you think? Can we wait forever?It's a possibility 'cause the same reasons as you caro Danilo.

I will update you.


And have you received my drawings...?Yup. Three (3) isn't it? Have you more? Your manga stuff it's very good! :)

vincent_price
04-25-2006, 01:18 AM
I think it's better to write a good script, find some (good...) actors and shoot a movie on hi8 (medley style...if you don't have a dvx or a decent minidv)... but if you want the "perfect" look... then wait for the "perfect" camera... the perfect crue...the perfect actors... the perfect distribution...

Emanuel
04-25-2006, 01:45 AM
Vincent, it's true your point but at same time we must to try have the better to get the best.

Saluti da Portogallo!

mjeppsen
04-25-2006, 02:06 AM
What codec are they using for 4:2:2?
Talked to someone in the know, and here's the rundown...

The new MPEG encoder records 12-frame GOP HDV to tape in vanilla HDV colorspace.

720 24p/60p in yummy uncompressed 4:2:2 is available via the HD-SDI tap, no word on if the also-newly-announced direct-to-disk solution will also record in 4:2:2 via some DVCPROHD-like codec.
The only details I have on the JVC hard disk accessory is that it will sometime in the near future be able to create FCP-compatible .mov files directly to the disk recorder so you can DTE with no ingest time.
At the risk of getting my linky-hand slapped again, here's a link with my thoughts on the camera (http://www.freshdv.com/2006/04/more-musings-on-new-jvc-hd200u-and.html).

Danilo Del Tufo
04-25-2006, 03:06 AM
I think it's better to write a good script, find some (good...) actors and shoot a movie on hi8 (medley style...if you don't have a dvx or a decent minidv)... but if you want the "perfect" look... then wait for the "perfect" camera... the perfect crue...the perfect actors... the perfect distribution...
Vincent you said right! :) Hope only to invest money a good camera, that is durable for years. I believe Emanuel thinks the same.

Danilo Del Tufo
04-25-2006, 03:13 AM
Yup. Three (3) isn't it? Have you more? Your manga stuff it's very good! :)
I've another illustration for a comic book, and a comic (one of the six page that you have received in black and white).
I've various sketches but they are not scanned...

Emanuel
04-25-2006, 12:31 PM
Vincent you said right! :) Hope only to invest money a good camera, that is durable for years. I believe Emanuel thinks the same.:thumbsup:


I will update you.http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showpost.php?p=528988&postcount=30 :)


I've another illustration for a comic book, and a comic (one of the six page that you have received in black and white).
I've various sketches but they are not scanned...:(

Is it possible do it to me? I'd like to...

Jeff Deveraux
04-25-2006, 12:51 PM
JVC released HD100U upgrades - the HD200U and HD250U.

True 4:2:2 straight from the chip, 60P (similar to the Varicam), improved cine-gamma, 16/35mm lens mount options, on-chip image flip for adapters like the RedRock Micro, some really cool stuff.

I'd post a link to a detailed rundown, but that move got my hand slapped and the thread deleted a few minutes ago. Suffice to say that JVC will do well with these cameras...


I was told that JVC only vertically flipped the image to accommodate the 35 adapter they are coming out with. There is no right to left flip. No rotation of the image. So while up and down are correct right and left are still opposite.

lecterj2
04-25-2006, 06:24 PM
I've another illustration for a comic book, and a comic (one of the six page that you have received in black and white).
I've various sketches but they are not scanned...I'm drawing my own manga currently ( Shounen type), once finished going back for pre production on my next film!

cheers

Tibby
04-25-2006, 06:30 PM
Why would it be? It's just 1280x720...

LINK (http://www.red.com/format_sizes/index.html)

The res of 24f mode is alot less than 1440x1080

And if red is under $ 8k then I'll buy it.

Emanuel
04-25-2006, 09:55 PM
Yup Tibby you're right but not so less.

Fugitive
04-27-2006, 04:38 AM
Tibby, Red is at 17.5K, more than double of what you mentioned.

DavidBeier
04-27-2006, 10:18 AM
That's without a lense or recording device. Look at 25k bare minimum (which is still a great deal but too rich for my blood).