First white smoke from the Texas shootout

[Emanuel]

LINK (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost.php?p=461001&postcount=9)

Update(s):

@open_threads
LINK1 (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64472)
LINK2 (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=64962) (following Nate's words will it be an echo of our push here?)

@Mike_Curtis' blog
http://www.hdforindies.com/

[Emanuel]

I read that you are out from the PDW-F330...

I can follow your "sensitivity" reason but despite this handicap don't you think that cam will be yet the best deal under $20,000?

[Simon Wyndham]

The camera is a lot less sensitive than other cameras of the same type. Although I'm not sure what it is like in comparison to a 750 or 900. I'll have to look them up. XDCAM HD is rated at f9.

[Emanuel]

The camera is a lot less sensitive than other cameras of the same type.And noisier too? Far away from the other SONY cams? Closer to Canon's XL-H1?

[Simon Wyndham]

Yes, the camera is a bit noisier. I would be hesitant to use it with gain. The noise doesn't seem apparent during normal shooting. But as soon as the gain is turned on it becomes quite apparent. The SN rating of the XDCAM HD cameras is 54db. This compares with 64db (NTSC) of the PDW-5xx series. However this is exactly the same rating as the HDW-750 camera.

The music video I made with the F330 came out nicely. I'll be posting it up online soon.

[nateweaver]

Got to take the F350 to the hotel with me last night and "get familiar" with it :-)

Great cam. I'd rent it for my higher end jobs, and it's 100% a pro cam in every way (and I didn't expect anything but). Unfortunately the performance is closer to the XLH-1 in some areas (including res). Sony definitely did not give the signal processing on it 100% from what I overheard Adam talking about and I myself observed.

Too bad. Looks like the 2/3" XDCAM HD is gonna be the one that gets it completely right.

[Emanuel]

Yes, the camera is a bit noisier. I would be hesitant to use it with gain. The noise doesn't seem apparent during normal shooting. But as soon as the gain is turned on it becomes quite apparent.And@-3db? Closer to Canon XL-H1 or in the Sony tradition anyway?


The SN rating of the XDCAM HD cameras is 54db. This compares with 64db (NTSC) of the PDW-5xx series. However this is exactly the same rating as the HDW-750 camera.That is 54db to HDW-750? Or the SN rating of this HDCAM is 64db?


The music video I made with the F330 came out nicely. I'll be posting it up online soon.If so soon as possible maybe you'll be the first XDCAM-HD serious feature footage poster. We'll be waiting to watch it as soon as you get.

[Emanuel]

Got to take the F350 to the hotel with me last night and "get familiar" with it :-)

Great cam. I'd rent it for my higher end jobs, and it's 100% a pro cam in every way (and I didn't expect anything but). Unfortunately the performance is closer to the XLH-1 in some areas (including res). Sony definitely did not give the signal processing on it 100% from what I overheard Adam talking about and I myself observed.

Too bad. Looks like the 2/3" XDCAM HD is gonna be the one that gets it completely right.:dankk2: for your input, Texas shootout shooter! But regarding the first link here (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost.php?p=461001&postcount=9) that I posted, I thought precisely the opposite...

And about the F350 vs. HD100, any thoughts? Resolution, cinegamma properties, progressive mode(s), etc...

[brianluce]

i saw that link. it's a bit coy

[Emanuel]

i saw that link. it's a bit coyActually the Sony PDW-F3xx series it is the last launch.

[tim_brown]

Emanuel,

Prehaps Mr. Boston was alluding to the fact that the suprise was that the H1 outperformed the 350 even with the higher bitrate.

[Emanuel]

Emanuel,

Prehaps Mr. Boston was alluding to the fact that the suprise was that the H1 outperformed the 350 even with the higher bitrate.Maybe... I'm lost...

EDIT -- In this case, it would be a surprise to all, not adressed to Alister Chapman. But 'til the publishing of the conclusions it will be wait and see.

[brianluce]

what cameras where in the shootout?

[Emanuel]

HVX, Z1U, HD100, XL-H1, PDW-F350, Varicam and if I'm not wrong, that's all.

[nateweaver]

Emanuel,

Prehaps Mr. Boston was alluding to the fact that the suprise was that the H1 outperformed the 350 even with the higher bitrate.

Nope. I doubt it.