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Hi i´m thinking in color correction for hdv in after effects 7. It has sense?
are there some specific plugins for CC?
thanks
oneinfiniteloop
03-30-2006, 02:27 PM
It should come with Color Finesse, which is an awesome CC tool. It comes with AE Pro on a seperate installer. Best part about it, it can work in Float point, and now that AE7 can it should produce some intersting results.
Matt Grunau
03-30-2006, 03:06 PM
It should come with Color Finesse, which is an awesome CC tool. It comes with AE Pro on a seperate installer. Best part about it, it can work in Float point, and now that AE7 can it should produce some intersting results.
Hey one, I have tried color finesse, but my results are never satisfactory. Do you think you could put a tutorial up for it sometime?
oneinfiniteloop
03-30-2006, 03:28 PM
Hey one, I have tried color finesse, but my results are never satisfactory. Do you think you could put a tutorial up for it sometime?
Sure, I'm grading a music video with it now, I'll take some notes and post my workflow with some stills when I'm done.
I have used Color finesse but is hard to work with ... :(
dougspice
03-30-2006, 03:45 PM
I know Total Training has some very basic video tutorials on it... spend 10-15 minutes with those and you'll be good to go. Color Finesse is really very simple once you understand the basics.
oneinfiniteloop
03-30-2006, 03:53 PM
It has a lot of options, so it makes it a little daunting.
Matt Grunau
03-30-2006, 05:50 PM
Sure, I'm grading a music video with it now, I'll take some notes and post my workflow with some stills when I'm done.
Cool. If you wanna make a video or something, I'll host it. That's the least I can do.
oneinfiniteloop
03-30-2006, 07:44 PM
Thanks, I'll let you know when I'm done...I have a website, but it's not up now, so hopefully by the time I finish it will be or I'll have to PM you!
BEENYWEENIES
04-01-2006, 02:56 AM
It should come with Color Finesse, which is an awesome CC tool. It comes with AE Pro on a seperate installer. Best part about it, it can work in Float point, and now that AE7 can it should produce some intersting results.
Color finesse has some professional grade tools, but from a workflow perspective I've never been able to get into it. Firing up a seperate app from within AE seems heavy handed to me. I know what people will think of this comment, but ALL color correction can be done with the Levels tool. This is the tool of choice at many, many studios. Number one, it's easy and intuitive, number two it does anything any other tool can and number three, it renders faster than any of the other options going.
I saw it used almost exclusively on Hellboy, Day After Tomorrow and a few others for the visual effects compositing work.
I know Color finesse "feels" more professional but personally I would recommend anyone interested in CC to just get real handy with Levels!
I must disagree. Having to launch a separate application to use CF is annoying but working in 32bit floating point space is much better than the standard 8bit tools. You don't need to use anything fancy - you could just use levels in CF and the results will be better.
Levels is a useful tool but it can't do everything by a long shot. You can't adjust select segments of the spectrum nor can you increase contrast without clipping image data (as opposed to using curves).
BEENYWEENIES
04-01-2006, 02:51 PM
I must disagree. Having to launch a separate application to use CF is annoying but working in 32bit floating point space is much better than the standard 8bit tools. You don't need to use anything fancy - you could just use levels in CF and the results will be better.
Levels is a useful tool but it can't do everything by a long shot. You can't adjust select segments of the spectrum nor can you increase contrast without clipping image data (as opposed to using curves).
Now that After Effects supports 32bit the need to jump over to a seperate app to get the benefits of 32bit CC are nil. The render times of working in a 32bit comp with levels is similar to the added render time of Color Finesse, only without the inconvenience of seperate apps.
You do have to set up your project properly to use 32bit, which takes a tiny amount of time, but I just created a template project with all the correct settings in place that I use as a starting place when i plan to use 32bit.
Also, I agree with you about levels vs. curves. I mention levels specifically because curves are much more difficult to master and tend to leave people thinking it isn't working properly when they can't get decent results. I would, however, add that while the ability to roll off curves does make it a much more useful tool in 8 or 16bit space, in 32bit mode crushing is less of an issue so this may not be as crucial an advantage.
oneinfiniteloop
04-01-2006, 03:51 PM
Color finesse has some professional grade tools, but from a workflow perspective I've never been able to get into it. Firing up a seperate app from within AE seems heavy handed to me. I know what people will think of this comment, but ALL color correction can be done with the Levels tool. This is the tool of choice at many, many studios. Number one, it's easy and intuitive, number two it does anything any other tool can and number three, it renders faster than any of the other options going.
I saw it used almost exclusively on Hellboy, Day After Tomorrow and a few others for the visual effects compositing work.
I know Color finesse "feels" more professional but personally I would recommend anyone interested in CC to just get real handy with Levels!
I agree 100%. I can do anything I would ever need with 3 effects, Levels, Curves, and Hue/Saturation. Color Finesse is just a handy tool because it gives you a few extra options. I primarily use it for secondary color correction because doing secondary with Levels and Curves can be a pain sometimes.
Levels is the most important effect in AE, and I've been using eLin in AE for a while now, so float is not a big deal to me, but in eLin, curves is more handy.
xilixfilms
08-16-2006, 03:50 AM
Where you able to come up with the tutorial? I would be highly interested :)
Ogrus
08-16-2006, 05:12 AM
what is "float"?
Steve_Arm
08-16-2006, 05:40 AM
Hey one, I have tried color finesse, but my results are never satisfactory. Do you think you could put a tutorial up for it sometime?
Yes, I get the same problem, but my explanation is that it is a very advanced CC tool to work with. Also it doesn't work well with DV footage. I have try it with big resolution stills and it performs amazingly.
what is "float"?
Float is a floating point number occupying 4 bytes in memory
In color theory it's 4 times more information than 8bit color values.
However 10bit is simply enough. Mostly it has to do with full white and full black and all that information are used to describe the intensity of the light in the image.
I see noone mentioned CC Color Offset, I use it a lot since AE works with RGB data.
AndrewKramer
08-16-2006, 02:46 PM
Check this out. Not exactly color correction but a little insight about 32bpc
http://www.creativecow.net/articles/kramer_andrew/hdr/index.htm
Andrew
onedog
08-17-2006, 01:52 AM
Check this out. Not exactly color correction but a little insight about 32bpc
http://www.creativecow.net/articles/kramer_andrew/hdr/index.htm
Andrew
Andrew, Great that you're on this forum. That tutorial is a ripper. Thanks