newadam
03-30-2006, 12:38 PM
Greetings All Fellow Bleeding Edgers,
Well my HVX finally arrived after being the exact opposite from most here - I had 2 8gig cards for the last month sitting on my desk - but I caould not find a HVX. Anyway thanks to Barry's post about Lerro having some in stock last week - I finally got it.
My backgound and expertise has always been FCP editing and training, but I have done a little of everything ovet the last 12 years of this work. Anyway I am taking a mild turn as I look at working with an intenational ministry traveling aroud the world producing training and promos. So I am excited about the tapeless workflow - the simpler the better. I will be a one man production studio in a backpack (plus a few footlockers)
So on to the main questions/ thoughts...
I went out and shot some junk footage - mostly to solidify a workflow so I can feel comfortable and go ahead and purchase appropriate storage. I will elaborate more in a different post about my thoughts on the HVX and quality (but initially I am pleased/excited) So I shot about 7 clips, came in and hooked up the camera, put it in 1394 mode, copied the "no-name" icon over to the desktop and it bacame "no-name" folder. I changed the folder name to something more logical. I then went into FCP (5.04) and imported the P2 from the folder. Everything went fine and imported into my project. The clips looked great. So here is where it got interesting. I understand that when FCP imports from P2 it rewraps it as a quicktime as another file. At first I did not like the concept, but it may be better in that that becomes my backup. But I wanted to test what would happen if I deleted a quicktime file from the capture scratch folder of my media drive. I did this to make sure I could recconect the file from the separate P2 folder to rebuild my project assuming my main drive media drive failed. So I told FCP to make one of the clips offline and delete it from the disk. I then told FCP to import the file from the P2 folder again. At this the file showed up in the thumbnail viewer , but when I imported it - I got the error that it could not load the file because it was either corrupt or incomplete - a little scary because I had already reformatted the P2. :badputer: Whatever I tried it would not import. I tried to start a new project and reimport and it gave me the same error. So after a little mental anguish over investing $8000 in this stuff :furious3: - I looked in the trash and saw the files I told FCP to delete. So I tried to empty the trash and OS-X would not allow because the files were in use. So I quit FCP, emptied the trash and restarted FCP.I then tried to reimport the P2 and presto - it worked. Anguish over. :love4:
So here is my propsed workflow (at least until FCP 6 comes out and we have native MXF import)
1. Shoot footage
2. Copy P2 folders to a cheap external Firewire or USB2 Hard drive for archival.
3. Import the files I need from the external Hard Drive into FCP. This copies the files into the Quicktime wrapper and saves them on my larger/faster external Media drive which I edit from.
4. I do not delete either Hard Drives at any time. After the Archival Drive is filled and transfered from, I put it in secure storage - these are my raw "tapes".
OK so let the hole-punching begin. :kali: The strength is that I have two copies of the clips I used in the projects The weakness is that unless I import all of the clips into FCP, then I only have the clips I actually used backed up if the archival HD went kaput. Before I understood that FCP actually copied the data, I had planned on getting some of the new Maxtor one-touch III dual drive RAID 0 or 1 hard drives and set them up as a RAID 1 and transfer and work from the drives. I may still used these drives, but they are not as neccesary.
Thoughts??? :dankk2:
Well my HVX finally arrived after being the exact opposite from most here - I had 2 8gig cards for the last month sitting on my desk - but I caould not find a HVX. Anyway thanks to Barry's post about Lerro having some in stock last week - I finally got it.
My backgound and expertise has always been FCP editing and training, but I have done a little of everything ovet the last 12 years of this work. Anyway I am taking a mild turn as I look at working with an intenational ministry traveling aroud the world producing training and promos. So I am excited about the tapeless workflow - the simpler the better. I will be a one man production studio in a backpack (plus a few footlockers)
So on to the main questions/ thoughts...
I went out and shot some junk footage - mostly to solidify a workflow so I can feel comfortable and go ahead and purchase appropriate storage. I will elaborate more in a different post about my thoughts on the HVX and quality (but initially I am pleased/excited) So I shot about 7 clips, came in and hooked up the camera, put it in 1394 mode, copied the "no-name" icon over to the desktop and it bacame "no-name" folder. I changed the folder name to something more logical. I then went into FCP (5.04) and imported the P2 from the folder. Everything went fine and imported into my project. The clips looked great. So here is where it got interesting. I understand that when FCP imports from P2 it rewraps it as a quicktime as another file. At first I did not like the concept, but it may be better in that that becomes my backup. But I wanted to test what would happen if I deleted a quicktime file from the capture scratch folder of my media drive. I did this to make sure I could recconect the file from the separate P2 folder to rebuild my project assuming my main drive media drive failed. So I told FCP to make one of the clips offline and delete it from the disk. I then told FCP to import the file from the P2 folder again. At this the file showed up in the thumbnail viewer , but when I imported it - I got the error that it could not load the file because it was either corrupt or incomplete - a little scary because I had already reformatted the P2. :badputer: Whatever I tried it would not import. I tried to start a new project and reimport and it gave me the same error. So after a little mental anguish over investing $8000 in this stuff :furious3: - I looked in the trash and saw the files I told FCP to delete. So I tried to empty the trash and OS-X would not allow because the files were in use. So I quit FCP, emptied the trash and restarted FCP.I then tried to reimport the P2 and presto - it worked. Anguish over. :love4:
So here is my propsed workflow (at least until FCP 6 comes out and we have native MXF import)
1. Shoot footage
2. Copy P2 folders to a cheap external Firewire or USB2 Hard drive for archival.
3. Import the files I need from the external Hard Drive into FCP. This copies the files into the Quicktime wrapper and saves them on my larger/faster external Media drive which I edit from.
4. I do not delete either Hard Drives at any time. After the Archival Drive is filled and transfered from, I put it in secure storage - these are my raw "tapes".
OK so let the hole-punching begin. :kali: The strength is that I have two copies of the clips I used in the projects The weakness is that unless I import all of the clips into FCP, then I only have the clips I actually used backed up if the archival HD went kaput. Before I understood that FCP actually copied the data, I had planned on getting some of the new Maxtor one-touch III dual drive RAID 0 or 1 hard drives and set them up as a RAID 1 and transfer and work from the drives. I may still used these drives, but they are not as neccesary.
Thoughts??? :dankk2: