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flydef
03-27-2006, 01:36 PM
Will Red make any attempt to make a lower cost camera with maybe reduced resolution?

How about a $5-10k camera that uses:
1. A single APS-C or fourthirds CMOS sensor that can take Nikon, Canon, or Olypus SLR lenses.
(Larger pixels, better low light, lower cost single chip)
2. 1080P/720P resolution at multiple frame rates.
3. JPEG 2000 compression.
4. Modules with sockets for swappable 2.5" or 3.5" SATAII hard drives.
5. HDMI/DVI out.
6. Colorspace?

Tzedekh
03-27-2006, 02:50 PM
Will Red make any attempt to make a lower cost camera with maybe reduced resolution?

How about a $5-10k camera that uses:
1. A single APS-C or fourthirds CMOS sensor that can take Nikon, Canon, or Olypus SLR lenses.
(Larger pixels, better low light, lower cost single chip)
2. 1080P/720P resolution at multiple frame rates.
3. JPEG 2000 compression.
4. Modules with sockets for swappable 2.5" or 3.5" SATAII hard drives.
5. HDMI/DVI out.
6. Colorspace?They could, but if doing so meant developing a different form factor, I would think that would increase their development costs. Besides, your description actually seems to fit RED, at least one possible configuration. Who knows? The base RED might actually come in at about $10,000 sans lens.

flydef
03-28-2006, 02:13 PM
Yeah, but I'm talking about a camera where they put all the money into the imaging chip, and the image processor and not the lenses, storage, etc. I mean if people are buying things like the M2 to use SLR lenses on top of a built in vid cam lens, why not just make the chip bigger? After a chip is developed, would it really cost more to manufacture than a chip for a digital SLR? Digital SLR's are selling for $700. Why not think of making the camera in a modular way like PC's are? Where storage, lenses and imaging blocks can be interchanged?

PS I think RED is supposed to be over $100,000.

MarcusX
03-28-2006, 02:26 PM
Digital SLR's are selling for $700.

AFAIK the sensor itself is not the problem. 1000 fps? No problem at all. But the dsp that converts the image into a recordable format has to handle several GB/s. And you need a reliable, fast and high-capacity storage system.


Why not think of making the camera in a modular way like PC's are? Where storage, lenses and imaging blocks can be interchanged?

The RED will be modular, so you can change lenses, storage, imager, once available.


PS I think RED is supposed to be over $100,000.

Read the other posts and just wait a few weeks till NAB.

govindaBLU
03-28-2006, 05:51 PM
I think it will all depend on the success and public "understanding" of this FIRST revolutionary Red camera. If it fails, there might be less of a chance for other models--no matter how rich you are!... But, I believe in them--...who knows, they might get as big, and garner as much respect as arri or panavision have over the years.

Zig_Zigman
03-30-2006, 06:17 PM
Sure, if Apple will support it.