View Full Version : A shot from PAL DVX in DVCPRO HD and other formats
hcBeck
03-25-2006, 06:01 PM
My father Richard.
Cine D, in a darkened room at night. Camera set to Auto for all settings.
The shot scaled down for a quick download (http://www.alex4d.com/hvx/richard270.mov)
Scaled down to 720p H.264 2MB (http://www.alex4d.com/hvx/richard-to720p.mov)
A sample frame scaled to 720p (http://www.alex4d.com/hvx/richard720h.jpg)
A few frames in DVCPRO HD (http://www.alex4d.com/hvx/richard1080_9frames.mov)
Alex
stabwound
03-25-2006, 06:08 PM
For a low light shot, I thought it looked great.
Sorry to beat a dead horse again.
Did you find the shot noisy? Compared to the NTSC stuff you might have seen.
hcBeck
03-25-2006, 06:18 PM
I included the frames of 1080 source to illustrate the noise, but I find it acceptable.
Remember that I'm just playing at the moment - using auto focus and all auto camera settings. Hence the rubbish focus at the start, the camera concentrating on the hat, not the book...
Here is another shot:
A shot overcranked at 50 fps. As FCP cannot import 720pn25, I had to dub it over to DV and import that. Notice that there are a 2 lines of black at the bottom and 1.5 at the top.
Sorry it looks a bit dull, it was an overcast day today, again, it was all on auto, at full zoom, handheld.
Scaled to 16 by 9 (http://www.alex4d.com/hvx/slo-mo_via_dv.mov)
Scaled down for a quick download (http://www.alex4d.com/hvx/slo-mo_via_dv_small.mov)
vincent_price
03-25-2006, 06:25 PM
looks like a dvx100 blown to hd... as stabwound said...very noisy... I've tried the hvx200pal connected to a fullhd plasma at the stand of adcom (where there was a comparison between the xlh1, hd100, hvx200 and z1u, www.adcom.it) during the photo&digital expo in Rome... and... I really did like the colors, the high definition, but the z1u had almost the same image quality... (all the cameras were in 1080i mode, only the hd100 was in 720p mode) and talking about quality, the lcd on the hvx200 is one of the worst lcds ever made... I espect a better quality from a 7000euro camera...
stabwound
03-25-2006, 07:00 PM
Oops.
Vince, I asked if it was noisy... I didn't say it was (I was looking at the still). .. I couldn't tell from the still.
Generally I don't try to judge from scaled down and compressed net video.
Yeah.... I'm not crazy about the LCD of the HVX... now that I had owned the Sony FX1. I end up using the viewfinder a lot and have taken up to a lot of praying....
stabwound
03-25-2006, 07:03 PM
Now that I did download and view the video... I'd say it looked fine, noisewise. I expect to see some in low lit situations, and it wasn't distracting at all.
Nice shoot.
booth
03-26-2006, 05:48 AM
looks like a dvx100 blown to hd... as stabwound said...very noisy... I've tried the hvx200pal connected to a fullhd plasma at the stand of adcom (where there was a comparison between the xlh1, hd100, hvx200 and z1u, www.adcom.it (http://www.adcom.it)) during the photo&digital expo in Rome... and... I really did like the colors, the high definition, but the z1u had almost the same image quality... (all the cameras were in 1080i mode, only the hd100 was in 720p mode) and talking about quality, the lcd on the hvx200 is one of the worst lcds ever made... I espect a better quality from a 7000euro camera...
Same image quality as the Z1? The images from the HVX200 and Z1 are worlds apart in my experience. The Z1 looks very clean and electronic, and the HVX while being noisier does have nicer colour rendition and looks more like film.
vincent_price
03-26-2006, 05:55 AM
Looks more like film???
booth
03-26-2006, 06:47 AM
Yes it does. I can take my HVX out now and record something that looks more like film in SD than the Z1 does in HD. That's not in terms of rez of course, I just mean the look and feel of it ~ of course the progressive mode does a lot, but Panasonics out-of-the-box colors look really nice.
Not that I'm knocking the Z1, with a lot of post-production you can make it look really good. I posted recently about finding that our colorist graded the UK BBC television programme Funland. Up till then I thought it'd been shot on Super 16mm and stylised in post. It wasn't. It was shot on a Z1 with stock lens, and put through a Davinci2k. It looks great, you should check it out. Jamie our colorist then showed us what it looked like before he got his hands on it - it looked awful in comparison to the graded version that'd been made to look like film.
You sure you didn't have the HVX in interlaced mode?
vincent_price
03-26-2006, 05:16 PM
You sure you didn't have the HVX in interlaced mode?
1080i
Great 50p footage, hcBeck! Give us more! :)