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Beat Takeshi
03-01-2006, 08:43 AM
I see a few shorts with pretty real looking guns.
Where are you guys getting these?

Brandon Rice
03-01-2006, 08:58 AM
I bought my rifle online off ebay. It was just an airsoft gun. It came with an orange tip, so I spray painted that. I also took a knife and scratched it up a bit to give it a more worn look. The pistol I borrowed from a friend. It's a gas powered air soft gun, much like the ones used in "Broken". It has a recoil that makes it look very real.

Filmjunkie677
03-01-2006, 09:33 AM
www.airsoftatlanta.com

Every gun you could imagine.... And cheap.

Shaun Patrick
03-01-2006, 09:35 AM
thank you for that link...you have made my day...

Brandon Rice
03-01-2006, 09:43 AM
Yeah, nice link! THanks.

SilverWolf
03-01-2006, 09:50 AM
Well I know so real shady characters that operate out of dark alleys and they give me good deals.:kali:

snodart
03-01-2006, 10:02 AM
I was told about this place, but know nothing about them and have never used them.

http://www.tokyohobby.net/index.php

Blaine
03-01-2006, 10:05 AM
www.airsoftatlanta.com

Every gun you could imagine.... And cheap.
Great link, thanks. :kali:

snodart
03-01-2006, 10:07 AM
I just searched ebay for "bb gun pistol". Wow. Tons.

EDIT: note to self; don't announce in a forum before bidding on an item.

Brandon Rice
03-01-2006, 10:22 AM
I just searched ebay for "bb gun pistol". Wow. Tons.

EDIT: note to self; don't announce in a forum before bidding on an item.

Yeah, Ebay is great. I've gotten a few props off there.

David Jimerson
03-01-2006, 10:33 AM
I was told about this place, but know nothing about them and have never used them.

http://www.tokyohobby.net/index.php

Wow. Some of those cost about as much as the real thing.

Kholi
03-01-2006, 10:37 AM
There are some cool guns at Kay Bee Toystores that have realistic chamber slide (or whatever you call it LoL).

If I use guns, that's what I'm getting.

Beat Takeshi
03-01-2006, 10:50 AM
Yeah, im looking for something with blowback action. The airsofts look great except for that orange tip Im guessing they fire without a BB in them also.
Thanks for the links.
I just found this place that looks great too. Super real looking with no orange parts.
http://www.modelguns.co.uk/index.htm

Kholi
03-01-2006, 11:18 AM
Eh. Save money, slice the orange parts off or paint them. That's what I'd do!

snodart
03-01-2006, 12:04 PM
I just bought these two BB guns on ebay. hehe. Won one for .01 and the other for .99. Of course the shipping was outrageous. Spent about $30 total. They should make for decent props with some slight modifications.

Brandon Rice
03-01-2006, 12:18 PM
Yeah... it's all about modifying them

Beat Takeshi
03-01-2006, 12:23 PM
Man, the NYC laws are strict with shooting anything gun related.
"Any violations of local, state and federal laws will expose your production to civil and criminal liabilities."

Z B Brox
03-01-2006, 12:28 PM
Yeah, those orange tips are required by law. Spray painting them yourself probably won't be a big deal (I wouldn't suggest using them outdoors in a city, though), but ordering guns without them via mail may not be worth the potential hassle...

Pastaman
03-01-2006, 07:55 PM
WoW those gun look great! even some for under a $100 bucks

Neil Rowe
03-01-2006, 08:01 PM
www.affordableairsoft.com

Beat Takeshi
03-01-2006, 09:20 PM
most of the cool small ones are sold out :(

Blaine
03-01-2006, 09:24 PM
www.affordableairsoft.com
Another good link, thanx.:kali:

Filmjunkie677
03-01-2006, 09:32 PM
Yeah, great link. Thanks, Neil!

Ben Sliker
03-01-2006, 10:54 PM
to get the most realistic look, you have to go with something that shoots a blank, I have a couple 9mm replicas that shoot 8mm blanks, and flash out the top of the chamber, they are plugged so they are completely safe as well, and the shell ejects out the top as well, which is bad ass. A lot of people get hung over on the flash that comes out of a barrel (excessively adding them in post) but don't realize that a lot of the time, that doesn't happen at all.

Oh, you can find these kinds on eBay for like 80-100 a pop.

snodart
03-01-2006, 11:41 PM
hybridtheory, any chance you could post a picture or link to an example?

Pastaman
03-02-2006, 12:38 AM
now we need a tutorial of how to add the flash (in post) when a bullet is shot.
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2004/oct2004/oct04lebx15x1.jpg

Ben Sliker
03-02-2006, 03:33 PM
hybridtheory, any chance you could post a picture or link to an example?

unfortunetly, i don't have any place to host them ... yet. but pm me, and i'll send you some screen captures.

but this is virtually the same one, and it kicks ass.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NICKEL-BBM-M92F-BLANK-FIRING-REPLICA-PROP-GUN-PISTOL_W0QQitemZ7593897455QQcategoryZ790QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

Alex DePew
03-02-2006, 03:54 PM
now we need a tutorial of how to add the flash (in post) when a bullet is shot.
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2004/oct2004/oct04lebx15x1.jpg

I did a quick google and found all the muzzle flashes to look very pasted on. I would love to check a method that comes close to reality or what we see in movies,:kali: whichever is cooler.

Kholi
03-02-2006, 03:56 PM
Use a gun that fires blanks?

=P I wouldn't know.

Anyone know where I can find a cool replica Mp5?

Ben Sliker
03-02-2006, 04:04 PM
i like the blank firing ones because they aren't made of plastic, meaning, they are going to have the weight of a real gun (and not break). I just like to get as close to real as possible.

Shaun Patrick
03-02-2006, 04:22 PM
I know the DigiEffect Delerium plug-ins package (for AE) has a muzzle flash effect. I've definitely seen it used effectively.

pmark23
03-02-2006, 06:51 PM
I converted an FN-FAL to blank-firing. Muzzle flash is massive, though at 600 rounds-per-minute and $1 per blank, it quickly became expensive! Thankfully magasines were only 20 rounds!

We made submachineguns from Ruger 10-22s with updated plastic stocks (to look like submachineguns), 100 round banana mags, and converted to full-auto and blank-firing. Muzzle flash isn't as big, but you get a nice stream of shells being ejected.

We also used live rounds, but the concussion from an M14 or FN firing full-auto would wiggle the video tape and cause drop-outs. Not to mention the crew going deaf.

I had a restricted weapons permit, so was able to do this with no probs (got the permit specifically to make ultraviolent war movies.) Ahhh, the eighties...

Shaun Patrick
03-02-2006, 07:04 PM
We also used live rounds, but the concussion from an M14 or FN firing full-auto would wiggle the video tape and cause drop-outs.

AWESOME!!!

faultygoblin
03-02-2006, 07:28 PM
I read that most of the muzzle blasts in flicks are actually rotoscoped in or some version of optically printed.....
I think the actual muzzle flashes are either animated or composited recordings of weapons varied and editied or somesuch...
I picked up 2 FN-P90S, A G36, and AK from a surplus store
(selling of returned airsofts and airguns for almost nothing)

want to do a short with the p90s this summer... just because
Im thinking of using the battery packs rechargeale in all their goodness to hook up a strobe or some sort of led to the trigger, I know it was done in some older fashioned movies.
Or I may take out some real firearms and try film it highspeed but it seems a waste of time.
Have any of you had any luck with a strobe or somesuch as a flash?
Could be done as a matt if properly combined? Frame by frame I imagine...
:costumed-smiley-047 :kali:

mcgeedigital
03-02-2006, 07:34 PM
Wondertouch's Particle Illusion does VERY cool muzzle flashes, as does AlamDV

Pastaman
03-02-2006, 09:57 PM
I found this site in the apple.com forums, it is video clips of gun muzzle flashes. key out the black in FCP and boom you have a gun flash.


here is the link:
http://www.artbeats.com/prod/product.php?pg=3&id=165

natdizzle
03-03-2006, 09:42 AM
Hey From CAnada, im not gonna try to Import from the USA, ALl i can find are sites offereing Airsoft Guns from USA...
Anyone Know of a good Canadian Site offering Airsoft guns?

Beat Takeshi
03-03-2006, 12:12 PM
If i were to have a gun that fired blanks I would have to have a licenced pyrotechnician and a gun handler on top of insurance driving the budget up. The scene for me is going to be short, quick one and the line after the shot is really the kicker in that scene.