The Netflix scam is out - This really REALLY pisses me off.

[c.g._eads]

And I'm thinking of cancelling my subscription because of it. I knew something smelled fishy but I never took the time to look into it. I hope they get exposed and lose tons of subscribers because of this. It's dirty, it's slimy, it's bad business. Netflix is now officially evil in my book.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/10/netflix.renters.ap/index.html

[Pale Rider]

That's pretty crappy... not cool at all NETFLIX, not cool at all.

[dmcgill]

Without acknowledging wrongdoing, the company agreed to provide a one-month rental upgrade and pay ... $2.5 million.



Corporate arrogance never ceases to amaze me.

[c.g._eads]

Now that this article is out, on CNNs main page mind you, it's going to get a lot worse for them. A LOT worse. They will be praying for the days of 2.5 million settlements.

"Hi, we're screwing over our most loyal customers. Join us."

[Chris Messineo]

I stopped going to BlockBuster years ago beacuse of their awful practices and switched to NetFlix. I can't believe this!

Are there no non-evil companies out there? :(

Chris

p.s. I just sent NetFlix an email (with a link to the CNN article) complaining. Hopefully, enough people will contact them and they will wake up.

[stephenlnoe]

Do you guys realize that the Public Library has a media section and all the movies and documentaries you can possibly watch for free?

Why pay a dime?? A library card is free....

[marlenedegrood]

When I was trying to decide between NetFlix and Blockbuster I did some google searching and came up with many complaints from NetFlix customers regarding how long it was taking to get their movies. Seems when you first sign up to your trial period the service is very good with fast shipments but after a while it starts taking longer and longer. So I opted to go with Blockbuster, it's been several months now and the service is awesome. If I drop a movie in the mailbox on Monday, I will receive a new one on Thurs. And just to sweeten the pot, Blockbuster gives you 2 printable coupons a month for free movie rentals from their store.

Forget NetFlix!

Marlene

[Chris Messineo]

No matter what happens I will never go back to Blockbuster.

Their "censorship" practices make me insane.

Chris

[MsManhattan]

I don't know -- this doesn't bother me. They have to make a profit to stick around, and the "fairness algorithm" they came up with is actually a pretty clever way to ensure that they stay in business. And, as the article notes, they've disclosed it in their terms of service so its not like they're doing it surreptitiously. Of course, I tend to hang on to my films for a couple of weeks, and I'm on one of the cheap plans (three rentals per month), so I always seem to get prompt service. It definitely beats Blockbuster; I'd rather have them around than forced out of business.

[Erik Olson]

I'm one of the "throttle victims" in that article. While I'd never sue Netflix over it, I'll just say that is total bulls***!

We've had a couple of Hillary Duff and Lindsay Lohan releases that came weeks after their initial release - even though we had them at the top of our queue.

What have we learned?

Google = Pretty much evil...
Netflix = Evil also, but still more cuddly than...
Blockbuster = 100% Pure Hydrogenated Satan cloaked under the guise of something holy...

e

I'll be contacting my Netflix customer service representative now.

[Sean Michael]

I've had Netflix for the past couple of years. I like the fact they have 50,000+ titles from which to choose (selection puts the library and local video stores to shame). In my case, there's almost always a quick 24-hour turnaround on a fresh rental.

I don't like the sound of "throttling," but I've never noticed it.

[thartley]

I have never had a problem with Netflix, even when I was in the "high rental" group. I will gladly pay the monthly fee for the convenience factor. It keeps me out of places like Blockbuster, I have no late fees ever, my rental queue is always full of movies I want to see so I never care which I get first. No matter what I get in the mailbox, its always something I want to see. And when things have gotten lost in the mail (twice) I was not charged for the disks. That to me, is AWESOME.

[HybridCreations]

I knew something strange was going on. The first couple DVD's I returned quickly came right back with another one. Now I have to wait 3 or 4 days for them to receive them. Then I get the email that they got it and I still pretty much always get the next one on the day they tell me. Is there anyone left that will not unethically tweak they're policies to make a few extra bucks? Greedy bastids.
-Ryan

[Daniel Skubal]

I'm on blockbuster online and love it. I get about 25-30 movies a month on the 3 at a time subscription. I love it.

[Luis Caffesse]

I'm glad to know I"m not insane.
I canceled my NetFlix subscription about a year ago because they started taking longer and longer to get me my movies.

I guess now I know why.

[kplo]

I dumped them last month. 3 months waiting to get March of the Penguins finally did it.
It's funny though, when you cancel online, they ask for your reasons. One of the choices is: "I'm going to try Blockbuster Online".
That was a chuckle. :)
Ken
the Screen Skins guy

[KOVAROVA]

they also lag on getting my films to me on time. the first few months were great. now (for me) the service just sucks. the convenience factor and amount of titles keeps me there, but it is a shame that they market the service the way they do. fruckers.

[Blaine]

I stopped going to BlockBuster years ago beacuse of their awful practices and switched to NetFlix.
Blockbuster = 100% Pure Hydrogenated Satan cloaked under the guise of something holy...
No matter what happens I will never go back to Blockbuster.
Their "censorship" practices make me insane.
It keeps me out of places like Blockbuster
I don't rent movies so I'm surprised by the complaints about Blockbuster. What's the deal with them that is causing all the vitriol? :shocked: :beer:

[Michael Summers]

When I was trying to decide between NetFlix and Blockbuster I did some google searching and came up with many complaints from NetFlix customers regarding how long it was taking to get their movies. Seems when you first sign up to your trial period the service is very good with fast shipments but after a while it starts taking longer and longer. So I opted to go with Blockbuster, it's been several months now and the service is awesome. If I drop a movie in the mailbox on Monday, I will receive a new one on Thurs. And just to sweeten the pot, Blockbuster gives you 2 printable coupons a month for free movie rentals from their store.

Forget NetFlix!

Marlene

blockbuster is owned by viacom. just thought you should know if you didn't, and if you did i am reiterating it.

[Sean Michael]

What's the deal with them that is causing all the vitriol?

A large percentage of Blockbuster profit over the years has come from late fees. (Personally, I'll never forget the $15 late fee for "Hideous Kinky"--and I never got around to watching the damn movie!)

Blockbuster burned a lot of bridges with its late fee policies. I won't go back.

[Blaine]

A large percentage of Blockbuster profit over the years has come from late fees. (Personally, I'll never forget the $15 late fee for "Hideous Kinky"--and I never got around to watching the damn movie!)

Blockbuster burned a lot of bridges with its late fee policies. I won't go back.
Thanks for the info, Sean. Now, I can understand why everyone's slamming Blockbuster. :beer:

[blckhawk542]

Damn that suckss guys!!

I get rental movies for free!! hurrayy!

I got a friend that works in Blockbuster..and he can get me free rentals somehow...only 2 movies..but hey its better than gettin raped for money from Netflix and Blockbuster.

I hope u guys settle ur issues.

[HansK]

I won't argue that what they are doing is irritating. But evil? That's stretching it.

I do ask though, would you rather the company fail and then you don't have the service at all?

[Daniel Skubal]

Can you file a lawsuit for this? Is this legally a bad business practice? Just curious.

[John C Lyons]

I quit Netflix years ago b/c they started needlessly slowing on receiving and sending my movies out. I joined them again b/c my local mom and pop video store closed down.

You can't beat the selection at Netflix but in the last couple months they have started taking longer to register that they have received my movies, etc etc. I am going to stick with Netflix until it becomes a rip off for me, I did send their Customer Support a complaint however tonight...

But my one friend has Blockbuster online and he says they dont send him his movies in order of his queue, so that would kinda suck too in my opinion.

[Rich Lee]

ive had the same 3 movies out for over a year....

maybe i should send them back...

[c.g._eads]

A lawsuit was filed and the dude won. It's what forced them to hide this little practice in their terms and conditions. The thing that really disturbed me is if you go to the website "hackingnetflix.com" and read all of the comments you find out just how calculated Netflix's little scam is. Every single heavy renter experiences the slowdown at about the same time (after 3 months of the service). You can hear their little software program clicking into action: "Beep beep boop... heavy renter -- must pretend like we're receiving movies later." The exact same thing happened to me and I can't help but feel like I went on a date with Netflix, got drunk, and was slipped a ruffie. The next thing you know I'm in a bathtub full of ice and a note to call 911.

[Sirius_Doggy]

Just another lame excuse for lawyers to pocket more money......
My thoughts about the guy in the first article...... He's probably just ripping and returning. Unfortunately I know a guy that does this. Who has time to really sit down and watch more than 20 movies a month????
Especially if one or two of them is a Peter Jackson flick! :cheesy:

[steadicamsteel]

Hello, has everyone neglected to take notice of the earlier post about getting a FREE Library card and then getting FREE Movies. You guys are paying for a service which you can get for free. Now in my book that's just being dumb and the Blockbusters and Netflixs of this world deserve to get your money.

[GenJerDan]

I always wanted to have a restaurant with a buffet "All you can eat for $2.95"

And then, when the customer goes back up for seconds, tell him "Sorry, sir. That was all you could eat for $2.95."

:grin:

[david_kuznicki]

Just for the record, I'm the biggest Netflix fan out there. I subscribe at the 4 at a time/ $25 tier.

Do I think this sucks? Sure. But I did my homework ahead of time; Netflix never really made a secret of this practice. As memory serves, they need it to hit $2 per rental (ie: 12.5 DVDs per month for me) before they make any profit.

And I am OK with this, for the most part.

Maybe because I turn to Netflix for the stuff that I can't get locally (Toledo is NOT known for having great Mom & Pop video stores), so most of it is always available without a wait. I rarely go for the newer titles, but then, "Cinderella Man" has been sitting at the top of my queue for 2 months!

If you're into catalog titles, it's a whole lot of hoopla over nothing. If you want newer stuff, then yeah, it's a big deal.

Just my opinion. But dammit, I LOVE Netflix!

David Kuznicki
Production Mananger, WGTE-TV30

[Rick Meyer]

My thoughts about the guy in the first article...... He's probably just ripping and returning...Who has time to really sit down and watch more than 20 movies a month????

My thoughts exactly.

[jonnothin]

Not only is this 100% percent true but after the first class action lawsuit they went right back to doing their selective "avid renter" policy of slowing down mailings to people who returned movies too quickly.

I spoke to a Netflix rep and all he could say was "You're still getting a great deal." and he tried to dupe me into believing that they were actually sending them out as fast as they could. Even though it took 5-7 days for me to receive anything. I LIVE in Queens and their distribution center is in QUEENS! It makes no sense...

While Blockbuster has notoriously sucked ass for a long time (and I never thought I'd defend them) but to the people speaking of their self-censored videos...this does not apply to their web-based site and actually I don't believe that is in practice anymore.

Go support your mom and pop video stores.

[dustino]

I hope that everyone who is complaining here is also complaining to Netflix - that's the only way they'll either change their policy or be more forthright in describing how their service truly works.

Like many others have said, I thought I was just being paranoid. I even emailed Netflix about it and, of course, they babbled about their efforts to provide the best service, etc., etc. So, even though this may be in the fine print of the terms and conditions, they sure don't advertise this policy even when customers explicitly complain about changes in their efficiency.

And to the guy who calls those"dumb" who give money to companies when libraries offer films for free, I'd like to know if his local library has 50,000 titles? I check out movies from the huge downtown library in Chicago, and they probably don't have 10% of that volume. I'm sure they have the latest Ben Affleck flick though.

[Ought2bCommitted]

I've been with Netflix since they started. I really loved the service until the last few months. EVERY and I mean EVERY new release that I have in my que has a "long" to "very long" wait. Why bother? I can just go to Blockbuster and pick it up as a guaranteed new release. Sure I have to make a 5 minute trip down the street, but at this point so what? It's worth it.

I joined BB online to see what their service was like and have been aggrevated at two things on there as well:
1) movies are not shipped in order. Really annoying if I have a small horror film at number one and a big release at number two... they will ship number 2 because chances are it is at a facility closer to me. I have it at number two for a reason!
2) MANY new releases have "long" to "very long" wait times. Again, why bother?

I have also noticed that the turn around on BB online isn't as fast as Netflix. I put them in the mail in the morning, they have them the next day, and day three I have new movies. Add another day (or two) to BB.

I really like on line renting because I am lazy... but I don't want to have to wait a week or two for new releases. I would expect BB on line to have some sort of guranteed in stock policy like their stores, but nope.

Both services have their merits, but I'm not really happy with either right now.

-Robert

[John C Lyons]

Who has time to really sit down and watch more than 20 movies a month????
I definitely do. And I work a full time job, run my own company, and have a social life besides watching movies at home, in the theater, and at film festivals. I just love movies, does't mean I wear an eye patch and have a peg leg.:rolleyes:

[Ought2bCommitted]

Aaarrrrghhhh, well said matey!

[steadicamsteel]

And to the guy who calls those"dumb" who give money to companies when libraries offer films for free, I'd like to know if his local library has 50,000 titles? I check out movies from the huge downtown library in Chicago, and they probably don't have 10% of that volume. I'm sure they have the latest Ben Affleck flick though.

Hey Dustino,

Have you actually set foot in your library? Just asking because believe it or not if your "local" library (that's if you know where it is) doesn't have a movie title you'd like to see. Chances are the network of other libraries in and around your area will have the title you requested and you can then book said film and watch for free. The library I'm a member of have a vast inventory of DVD's (including Ben Afleck Flicks but do draw the line on PORN) You'd be a very very old man if you started watching them back to back now and exausted the list. And another great thing about libraries is they also have a vast inventory of books...Yeh man over 2,000,000 of the things in one building. Where was I going wrong, spending all that money in Borders on books when I could have spent it in Blockbuster or Netflixs instead, Oh the irony........

These global giants deserve your dumb ass money if your too lazy to wonder on down to your local library and utilise their free services. It's people like you who don't help the situation. If more people showed a hint of interest in a free service like your local library then maybe more investment would be forthcoming from the powers at be and maybe, just maybe one day your local will have an inventory of over 100,000 DVD's.

[david_kuznicki]

Hey Dustino,

Have you actually set foot in your library? Just asking because believe it or not if your "local" library (that's if you know where it is) doesn't have a movie title you'd like to see.
(Snip)
These global giants deserve your dumb ass money if your too lazy to wonder on down to your local library and utilise their free services. It's people like you who don't help the situation. If more people showed a hint of interest in a free service like your local library then maybe more investment would be forthcoming from the powers at be and maybe, just maybe one day your local will have an inventory of over 100,000 DVD's.

Testy, testy!

But as a Netflix apologist, allow me to retort...

Yup, I'm at the library on a weekly basis; it's one of the joys of being a college student. We have a pretty good one downtown, even-- one of the best in the country. And I also utilize the university library.

But no, they don't have everything that I'm looking for. I went looking for "Knife in the Water" over the weekend, which is hardly an obsure film. No luck. No "Decalogue" either. Etc.

If you don't like Netflix's service, simply don't pay for it. If the library's working out for you, more power to you. But I think it's hardly fair to berate people for not renting from the library, and insinuating that he's part of a larger, undereducated mass.

David Kuznicki
Production Manager, WGTE-TV30

[John C Lyons]

I agree the library is probably a good source for certain titles, but hardly everything under the sun. Once a library collection exists where I can sign out independent and foreign films then there won't be a need for services like Netflix, unfortunately that isn't the reality of the situation.

Obviously Netflix offers such a great selection and that is the draw for me, I don't usually rent "Dukes of Hazzard"-type movies, I want stuff I can't just go to the theater and see and they are a great resource, it's just unfortunate they apparently treat their best customers the worst.

Do they actually think they are getting their recommendations/support/word-of-mouth from Joe Blow that rents a half dozen mainstream titles a month, or from the fanatics that eat up films? They wouldn't be where they are now if it wasn't for the second group. I don't understand why everyone doesn't get the same shot at their library of movies, doesn't make sense to me.

[Ought2bCommitted]

Plus it seems highly illegal to me... its very misleading when you join because you don't tell you if you are a certain type of renter we may choose to screw you...

[Rasquachemedia]

What have we learned?

Google = Pretty much evil...
Netflix = Evil also, but still more cuddly than...
Blockbuster = 100% Pure Hydrogenated Satan cloaked under the guise of something holy...




why is google evil?

[vidled]

it's just unfortunate they apparently treat their best customers the worst.

Well, herein lies the problem, I think.
A frequent customer is NOT the BEST customer for any business operating on the "all-you-can-eat" principle. The customer who consumes the LEAST is the BEST customer.

[Ought2bCommitted]

Well then they shouldn't be in the all you can eat business...

[Josh_Boelter]

I'd heard that Amazon was going to get into the DVD rental by mail business. Does anyone know if this is still in the plans for them? I don't see anything on their web site.

[dustino]

Hey Dustino,

Have you actually set foot in your library? Just asking because believe it or not if your "local" library (that's if you know where it is) doesn't have a movie title you'd like to see. Chances are the network of other libraries in and around your area will have the title you requested and you can then book said film and watch for free. The library I'm a member of have a vast inventory of DVD's (including Ben Afleck Flicks but do draw the line on PORN) You'd be a very very old man if you started watching them back to back now and exausted the list. And another great thing about libraries is they also have a vast inventory of books...Yeh man over 2,000,000 of the things in one building. Where was I going wrong, spending all that money in Borders on books when I could have spent it in Blockbuster or Netflixs instead, Oh the irony........

These global giants deserve your dumb ass money if your too lazy to wonder on down to your local library and utilise their free services. It's people like you who don't help the situation. If more people showed a hint of interest in a free service like your local library then maybe more investment would be forthcoming from the powers at be and maybe, just maybe one day your local will have an inventory of over 100,000 DVD's.

Unlike yourself, I'll try to do two things 1) keep this civil, and 2) refrain from using the ridiculous tone of superiority that only the oppressively insecure assume.

True, people like myself who support Netflix (and even Blockbuster on rare occasions in my past) are complicitly supporting all of the inherent evils of a devastatingly heartless global corporate culture. But, uh, so am I by supporting Panasonic. And the manufacturer of my computer. And the manufacturer of the boots I'm wearing right now. I suppose you, sir, live in a tent in the wilderness gloriously innocent of all the world's evil. I suppose the local library you support in no way contributes to corporate or governmental abuses with your tax dollars. It doesn't support a publishing industry which I'm sure only makes books with paper from environmentally friendly logging companies and paper manufacturers. I'm sure the adhesive chemicals used in the binding process of those "books" (or whatever those things were you refered to) are only produced in factories upholding the most stringent standards of labor and safety.

I hate to even dignify the crass assumptions of someone expelling the hostile flatulence of their own self-loathing, but of course I advocate (and use) libraries. And your point that supporting one's library could help them compete with corporate services is a good one. (It seems, however, that the most beneficial support would be through either private donation or supporting candidates and/or referendums that funnelled tax dollars to libraries as opposed to simply checking out movies, but I'll grant you the point, anyway).

It's not the recommendation of libraries that I took issue with, it was how comfortable you seem to be calling others "dumb" (which you've done again here) that proves much more about yourself than those you're trying to criticize. Self-righteousness is never flattering and the truly righteous never need to prove their enlightenment.

Given that you're such a militant advocate of public services, perhaps you should see if your local Recreation Center offers yoga or tai chi classes - couldn't hurt...

[John C Lyons]

Perhaps a really bad bit of poetry will steer this hate ship back on the course to love:

Lament of the Baby Bird

Mommy gave me one last worm,
And pushed me from the nest.
I flapped me widdle wings
As hard as I could,
And fell down on me chest.
I see the kitty coming now,
He's ready to digest.
So I'll see you in heaven, mommy,
I know you did your best.

[J.R. Hudson]

Greed is bad.

[Jim Brennan]

I agree the library is probably a good source for certain titles, but hardly everything under the sun. Once a library collection exists where I can sign out independent and foreign films then there won't be a need for services like Netflix, unfortunately that isn't the reality of the situation.
'

I disagree. I have yet to find a video that I CANNOT get from the library system. I even find rare out of print stuff through interlibrary loan. Does either netflix or blockbuster carry Titticut Follies? I think not.

I can get a DVD for a couple of weeks and it costs me nada. You might have to be a little patient, but I rarely wait more than a few days.

[Weston]

Do you guys realize that the Public Library has a media section and all the movies and documentaries you can possibly watch for free?

Why pay a dime?? A library card is free....

Not when the library in your town is small enough that the newest releases are all VHS's from 2001.

I have blockbuster and i'm pretty happy with it.

[John C Lyons]

I disagree. I have yet to find a video that I CANNOT get from the library system. I even find rare out of print stuff through interlibrary loan.

OK,

ask your library for "Ôdishon" (Audition) by Miike, "November" by Harrison, "Un Chien Andalou" by Buñuel, "el Topo" by Jodorowsky, and "Attack of the Beast Creatures" (or "Hell Island") by Stanley. Let us know how you do.

[david_kuznicki]

I'd heard that Amazon was going to get into the DVD rental by mail business. Does anyone know if this is still in the plans for them? I don't see anything on their web site.

I believe that they already are in overseas markets, but I haven't heard anything about the US.

David Kuznicki
Production Manager, WGTE-TV30

[Jim Brennan]

OK,

ask your library for "Ôdishon" (Audition) by Miike, "November" by Harrison, "Un Chien Andalou" by Buñuel, "el Topo" by Jodorowsky, and "Attack of the Beast Creatures" (or "Hell Island") by Stanley. Let us know how you do.

Odishon - 13 copies, copies available today
November -aabout 40 copies, copies available today
Un Chien Andalou - 5 copies, copies available today
El Topo - 1 copy through interlibrary loan. Might take about a week to get.
Attack of the Beast Creatures/Hell Island 0 Copies, but I couldn't find that one on Amazon either under either title. Maybe there's a different title. Or, if you can give me the full name of the director I can try again. there are too many "Stanley"s to weed through.

Hows that for free?

[John C Lyons]

very cool, and these are all on dvd?! even "el Topo"?

im a bit surprised by the high volume for "november", best buy has already pulled it from its store shelves/isn't restocking it.

nice work.

[Jim Brennan]

I think El Topo was VHS. It was at some Polytechnic School Library

The first 3 were all available from the Denver Public Library. They have been spending a mad amount of money on DVDs They often overbuy new (or newer) films, then sell them off as interest fades. They have an impressive collection of foreign films. But the best thing about them in the Prospector system, which allows you access to stuff from just about any library system in the state. You pick up the item within a couple of days at whatever branch you choose. Denver only allows 1 week with norenewals on their DVDs, but 3 renewals on VHS. Arapahoe county (where I live) allows 3 renewals of DVDs.

Sometimes you have to wait awhile. I am number 124 in the queue for Grizzly man, but they have about 40 copies or so I think.

But they can even get you stuff from around the country. I got Titticut Follies from the University of Virginia. It would have been about 400 bucks to buy and I can't find it to rent anywhere.

My Tax Dollars at work.

[steadicamsteel]

Unlike yourself, I'll try to do two things 1) keep this civil, and 2) refrain from using the ridiculous tone of superiority that only the oppressively insecure assume.

Thank goodness (you took the bait) there's someone else as righteous and of superiour mind as me in this thread. Although I do think your remarks (above) were a tad below the belt after stating you'd keep it civil. Even I didn't deserve that one, however I have a very thick skin and I'm always willing to turn a blind eye on others (less fortunate) who's first form of defence is to attack the true and free of mind.

True, people like myself who support Netflix (and even Blockbuster on rare occasions in my past) are complicitly supporting all of the inherent evils of a devastatingly heartless global corporate culture. But, uh, so am I by supporting Panasonic. And the manufacturer of my computer. And the manufacturer of the boots I'm wearing right now.

You've completely missed my point "SEE ORIGINAL THREAD TITLE". However I am planning world domination by means of passive resistance to anything, you sound like a stand up guy, are you in? MSN me at secretsquirrel@bite.me.co.uk

I suppose you, sir, live in a tent in the wilderness gloriously innocent of all the world's evil.

I don't live in a tent but do live in a beautiful pea green boat and have been known to live in the wilderness on an occasion with a cow and a spoon and yes "I am innocent of all the worlds evil". How very dare you suggest any different.

I suppose the local library you support in no way contributes to corporate or governmental abuses with your tax dollars. It doesn't support a publishing industry which I'm sure only makes books with paper from environmentally friendly logging companies and paper manufacturers. I'm sure the adhesive chemicals used in the binding process of those "books" (or whatever those things were you refered to) are only produced in factories upholding the most stringent standards of labor and safety.

As far as I am aware of no, my library doesn't. But again, I really do think you've got the wrong end of the stick here. Remember I'm not based in the USA so can't comment on your countries ethics, well I could but this is neither the time or place to do so and as such will refrain from embarising you in front of your fellow country men.

I hate to even dignify the crass assumptions of someone expelling the hostile flatulence of their own self-loathing, but of course I advocate (and use) libraries. And your point that supporting one's library could help them compete with corporate services is a good one. (It seems, however, that the most beneficial support would be through either private donation or supporting candidates and/or referendums that funnelled tax dollars to libraries as opposed to simply checking out movies, but I'll grant you the point, anyway).

Again, there is no need to insult the enlightened and at very long last your actually seeing there was a point to my posting. I have to completely disagree with you about private donations and supporting candidates/referendums etc....How can libraries compete in this day and age and get disengaged people using their FREE facilities. Answer by giving customers what they want (it's not all about art house films etc) and if that means its about making "the dukes of Hazzard, the movie" available for people then lets have it on the shelves, its a small step but at least its in the right direction.

It's not the recommendation of libraries that I took issue with, it was how comfortable you seem to be calling others "dumb" (which you've done again here) that proves much more about yourself than those you're trying to criticize. Self-righteousness is never flattering and the truly righteous never need to prove their enlightenment.

dumb, dumb, dumb. There I've done it again. I wanted to highlight that there are people on this thread bitching about how the big corporations are picking on the little guy. Stop bitching and do something about it. STOP paying them money for something that you can get for free. In my book thats classed as idiotic but thought "dumb" was a better observational word.

Given that you're such a militant advocate of public services, perhaps you should see if your local Recreation Center offers yoga or tai chi classes - couldn't hurt...

Shhhhh, I wouldn't say I was a militant, you gotta be careful about who's out there reading this stuff, Freedom of speech, Gwantanimo Bay et al. But I actually teach tai chi and as previously mentioned planning world domination by means of passive resistance to evrything. Peace.

[c.g._eads]

that last post made me feel real stupid.

[Luis Caffesse]

that last post made me feel real stupid.


Hmmm.
Interesting.
I had the opposite reaction.
:)

[Jim Brennan]

It might have made me feel dumb, but I don't know how to read. That's why I watch movies :)

[dakotapod]

It might have made me feel dumb, but I don't know how to read. That's why I watch movies :)

LMAO! - Well done...

[Luis Caffesse]

It might have made me feel dumb, but I don't know how to read. That's why I watch movies :)

Hahahahahaha
Nice.
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[John C Lyons]

Just wanted to post an update that since I emailed Netflix my complaint they sent me a form letter reply, but then amazingly now new releases and most of my top picks (that were "Very Long Wait" days before) have been shipping in a very timely manner. :)

[Kirk Gillock]

"Customers shouldn't be afraid of NetFlix. ....NetFlix should be afraid of its customers." :)

[Draccan]

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[Ought2bCommitted]

Just wanted to post an update that since I emailed Netflix my complaint they sent me a form letter reply, but then amazingly now new releases and most of my top picks (that were "Very Long Wait" days before) have been shipping in a very timely manner. :)

I sent them a scathing email as well, since I have been with them since day one. We'll see if my experience gets any better.