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Brandon Rice
01-23-2006, 04:07 PM
I'm rushing to finish the score with my composer. All effects are finished, and picture is locked. Waiting on the final piece(music) to make this thing work.

PixelMagic
01-23-2006, 04:30 PM
Well, I had an excellent piece to enter. But with 20+ visual effects shots left to finish, I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen. I really wanted to enter this time too. Sad.

ChrisHurn
01-23-2006, 04:33 PM
I'm scoring two films for sci fest, in this week. I have recieved the cut for one, which will be done in a few days, and the other I am getting in a day or two which will leave 4-5 days max to write the score. :) Busy.

Good luck to everyone!

-Chris

Ralph Oshiro
01-23-2006, 04:49 PM
I'm planning my first day of shooting this weekend.

Jeremy Ordan
01-23-2006, 05:08 PM
Mine is complete crap, couple of days of shooting done, but we've lost a ton of actors, locations, have been rewriting as we go along, and well, it's just crap.

I'm going to submit just to get that sense of completion with finishing it, but I'm not happy with it... It's really bad.

GenJerDan
01-23-2006, 05:10 PM
1st cut done. Gotsta diddle some of the CGI a bit, but no biggie.

The final edit...? Maybe tomorrow, if I play hookie from work. I really am sick, so it's not really a lie if I call in.

Definitely have to cut and cut and cut. It's not as snappy as I'd like. Damned amateur actors. :grin:

Brandon Rice
01-23-2006, 07:16 PM
Well, I feel all you guys pain. It's a tough job (making films). I am pretty confident I can cut this thing to 6 min. No credits, no titles, nothin' It's gunna be a bare minumum. Also, when are we going to get some info on upload procedure?

wcs
01-23-2006, 07:21 PM
It's make or break on the CG tonight... Also gotta write a hellavu score soon (been experimenting with instruments)... the edit's chugging along, though. Oh, but I don't have the weekend open because a friend is getting married down south... darnit.

I think 'hurried' is the word.

Beat Takeshi
01-23-2006, 08:07 PM
So briceman,
I guess you dont need that shot? If not thats cool because I am swamped with changes on the animation i am working on and I will probably be working through the weekend.

I have some foley to do on my short and if Chris can get to my piece i think thats about it besides make a quick title card and record the song my daughters made up for the DVD ending credits. I look and feel like cr4p working all day and night and then squeezing in the short on the few free days Ive had.

Good luck to all and hope we have the turn out we did last time!

Brandon Rice
01-23-2006, 08:10 PM
So briceman,
I guess you dont need that shot?

Yeah, no worries. We worked it out. Thanks for the offer though!!! And good luck:thumbsup: , it sounds like you are swamped!

profnoxin
01-24-2006, 01:49 AM
Finished the fine cut a little while ago... Brian has been tweaking sound, trying to clean up some of the raw location sound. VFX done. Titles and credits done. Color timing done. Now all we have to do is squeeze the score in on time. We may be giving the score for the fest the old college try, and then laying on a different score for our own purposes. Only time will tell. Good luck everyone.

krestofre
01-24-2006, 05:02 AM
Three FX Shots to go, then mixing begins, followed by a final CC (which I don't think will be a big deal, I pretty well shot it the way I wanted the color), so it should all be good.

I'm very pleased with the way it's turned out. This is my first attempt at doing anything with a high number of special effects (read "high number" as more than two). :)

Brandon Rice
01-24-2006, 03:26 PM
Well, I've got my film cut down to 6:26 now. I'm almost there. Still trying to retain somewhat of a cohesive story.

GenJerDan
01-24-2006, 03:34 PM
Panic attack, here. My computer choked on the render. Too much going on. :grin:

I worked around it, clever boy that I am.

wcs
01-24-2006, 04:15 PM
I'd just like to note the battling urges within me.

I can't wait to see all the entries, so I want Wednesday to hurry up and get here.

But... 29 seconds to trim, 6minutes of score to compose, 50% of the cg left to complete..... Wendesday is a bulldog who's eyeing my hamburger...

Get back you fiendish deadline.

arielman
01-24-2006, 06:55 PM
Well we are going to make it .
Now it 's going to be hard to put this together as some of the Sequence scenes no longer make sense due to the lack of Snow and the rain .

I am 45 secs short of 6 min . Might try and add some footage this weekend .

Good luck to ALL !
Ian

Brandon Rice
01-24-2006, 09:55 PM
Well.... I still have some more to trim (about 29 seconds). But, tonight I'm here at my composer's house workin' with him on some more music, and in the meantime, I'm cutting together a fun little trailer! So, most everything is done, and I am happy! WHOO!

Norm Sanders
01-25-2006, 09:18 AM
WCS - Love the Bulldog comment on Wednesday's deadline and your hamburger. Funny stuff!

Aram - I'm right there with you as far as pushing yourself too hard. I've been staying up 'till 3:30am on average, getting less 4 1/2 - 5 hours sleep. Last night, when I WAS going to start post again right away once the kids were to bed, I instead spent until 12:30am loading all kinds of songs onto my wife's iPod. It's her birthday today, and she's been BEGGING for an iPod ... so when I gave it to her - looking like it'd never been opened - I wanted her to have a bunch of music already on it, so she could take it to the club with her this AM after dropping the kids at school.

Brandon - for your title just throw a cool temp one over your opening footage. For your credits, just do the one frame trick at the end ... if you're entering with a QT6/7 file, it'll end & stop on that last frame.

I believe I've got most, if not all of my SFX done ... just need to work on the 5.1 mix now for the DVD. In addition to 1-2 dialogue tracks for each talent (5), I've got at LEAST another 10 or so tracks for all the other SFX tracks, LFE (bass for the 5.1 mix), etc.

Working on the compositing of the VFX that are being done for us, and waiting for the final score ... which so far has been coming along wonderfully with regards to how it sounds. Doing all our CC testing now to.

System's choking some already ... can't wait until I bring in ALL the uprezzed footage. :shocked:

greeches
01-25-2006, 10:02 AM
Finally got the editing done, now to sound fix and visual effects... oy vey! Such a tight shoot! Good luck to all, as I'm sure we'll get little sleep in the final week.

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 10:09 AM
Yeah Norm, I've cut my credits. One frame for the end, etc. Still working on chopping 26 sec. out.

lucidz
01-25-2006, 10:29 AM
I have still not shot a single frame of footage, my cameras giving me the red x, and i'm still tentative on who is showing up tonight for the principle.

However, I swear by all that is good, holy and unholy I will finish this motherslutting short if its the last thing I do!

I've even been growing a beard for the past 3 weeks, REFUSING to shave until I've completed the short.

My fiance hates me, and my camera now lol :)

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 10:38 AM
Have you used a head cleaning tape? I had the same x appear the first night of shooting my short (first time it's ever happened, and I've logged 450 hours on the camera). But, the cleaning tape fixed it up, no problem!

lucidz
01-25-2006, 11:01 AM
Haven't tried a cleaning tape. I haven't even turned the camera on since I got the red x. My cam only has 17 hours on it, so maybe the tape was dirty or a spec of dust got on it. Was gonna try cleaning the heads tonight.

Where would I get a cleaning tape from like, tonight? :)

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 11:03 AM
Well, Best Buy has some usually. Try to get a Panasonic one. And, also use some compressed air to blow out the dust. (I've done that since the day I got my camera, and it's never had dirty head issues.)

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-25-2006, 11:16 AM
Well, I've got my film cut down to 6:26 now. I'm almost there. Still trying to retain somewhat of a cohesive story.

Well we are going to make it .
Now it 's going to be hard to put this together as some of the Sequence scenes no longer make sense due to the lack of Snow and the rain .
I am 45 secs short of 6 min . Might try and add some footage this weekend .
Good luck to ALL !
Ian

Briceman - you should just give your 26 seconds of footage to arielman paste at the end of his footage :cheesy:

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 11:43 AM
LOL, great idea!

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-25-2006, 11:47 AM
You could put at the end of yours To Be Continued at the End of Arielman's Short

Ofcourse each film would have to be judged as seperate wholes -- your incomplete film and Arielman's odd collage of your work and his ..

But what am I thinking - Arielman, that's some valuable realesate you've got there - you should charge for it.

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 11:49 AM
HAHA! Yeah, watch the end of arielman's short for the continuation of this one! LOL!

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-25-2006, 11:50 AM
that's what makes DVXuser great - working together
(cue animated woodland animals)

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 11:53 AM
You're pretty funny dude! HAHA! Thanks for the laugh. I need that with all this lack of sleep. I am barely going to get through work today!

arielman
01-25-2006, 01:42 PM
You could put at the end of yours To Be Continued at the End of Arielman's Short

Ofcourse each film would have to be judged as seperate wholes -- your incomplete film and Arielman's odd collage of your work and his ..

But what am I thinking - Arielman, that's some valuable realesate you've got there - you should charge for it.

HAHAHAHA great idea guys ....

Looks good for Fridays last shoot ...
I'm not cheap you know ...lmao
Ian

arielman
01-25-2006, 01:43 PM
HAHA! Yeah, watch the end of arielman's short for the continuation of this one! LOL!

This will be interesting ...lol
The Saga continues .....
Ian

janzie
01-25-2006, 04:11 PM
i still donīt have the effect shots (some of them are necessary for the STORY)-that didnīt come up the way i thought it would and iīm already at 7:30 min...of course no sound or score yet...i could drop out and finish an 8 min short, that i donīt really like or cut it down to 6 min, leave out the effects (then it wouldnīt qualify as sci-fi due to lack of genre elements) which would give me a-bad-acting-combined-with-shitty-camerawork-and-no-score-kind-a-thing...

one more question: can we use miniatures from existing movies (painted differently) or is that a copyright valiation? (letīs say i take a model of the psycho house, change it a little, paint it green and use it as a spaceship?-no advertising !!!)

GenJerDan
01-25-2006, 04:39 PM
Current status: redoing some CGI because my wife didn't like what I had.

Well, neither did I, but that's beside the point.

Heck, still got a few days, right? :)

OLBoy
01-25-2006, 07:49 PM
A little bit annoyed right now. Sat in a Coffee shop for about an hour with my friend (who's also the lead) waiting for my actress to show. It turns out she flew to NY on Monday and didn't even tell me. 2 DVXFests and 2 no-shows, I sure know how to pick reliable actresses.

So after this came to my attention, I cancelled my equipment rental and told my friend to do his homework since he's failing pretty badly.

I'm not out of the Sci-fest though. I'll see what I can put together this weekend by myself.

I can't act, so I apologize in advance.

kimko
01-25-2006, 07:55 PM
man you got have back up 3 actors for that part

OLBoy
01-25-2006, 08:00 PM
I Definetely will next time.

wcs
01-25-2006, 08:08 PM
man you got have back up 3 actors for that part

or a very nice wig and lots of self-confidence.

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 09:14 PM
It's down to 6:16. 16 seconds to go baby!

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 09:55 PM
I'm 29 frames from 6 min. I'm gunna do it!!

somewestfilms
01-25-2006, 10:08 PM
We haven't even started yet, but we have a super funny script. IT"S AWESOME!

Brandon Rice
01-25-2006, 10:23 PM
Better get on it, you got 6 days.

wcs
01-25-2006, 11:48 PM
29 frames? Man, I've still got 16 seconds to trim.

Is anyone short? I've got 384 extra frames that need a good home.

On the plus side, my special effects shot is mostly done (tweaking), and I've got my preliminary score idea pieces completed. I think I can almost relax.

Beat Takeshi
01-25-2006, 11:56 PM
mine is 5:58 so i get 2 seconds of credits :)

Chris Hurn was able to fit me in his schedule and sent me a few tracks after he watched the short. Im rendering them now to send back to him to get his input and then I should be done!!! My kids watched it for the first time in full tonight and they were like "dang, we did that?" I think they were impressed since I had no script and just some scene ideas on my treo that me and MsManhattan wrote over my sisters daughters baptism dinner. I had to keep going back to it to keep the story straight. I also had to beat them a few times to get them to stop laughing and giggling. I would beat the older one and she would beat her sister... worked out great. I guess she gets an assistant director credit for that.

Hey Olboy, the trick to keeping your actors is to use ones that are at their work when you shoot. You go up to the girl in the store and say do you mind being the lead and playing a girl that works in a store? Then you shoot when shes at work, you have to sit and wait though when customers come in. ;)

slinks
01-26-2006, 12:49 AM
My original idea is gonna be postponed for later (hard to find a good time for everyone to get ...I want to take my time for that one. For now I will try and throw something together with a totally different approach than my 1st idea :P.

GenJerDan
01-26-2006, 01:03 AM
or a very nice wig and lots of self-confidence.

And sweaters.

EditPhish
01-26-2006, 01:23 AM
Newbie here...

Final edit and fx finished tonight... scoring tomorrow and Friday, CC and final mix over the weekend. We're sitting at 5:36 for final length (without end credits ;))

Been burnin' the midnight oil...

spidey
01-26-2006, 07:15 AM
last tweaks left. ready on tuesday .

P!body
01-26-2006, 01:13 PM
Finished shooting last weekend, rough edit ready-
All that's left is a few tweaks, a few shots of reshoots, cutting 3 mins., music, and some moderate color correction.

MojoTrancer
01-26-2006, 03:27 PM
I still have miles to go before I sleep...

ZombieSquid
01-26-2006, 05:46 PM
DANG! I thought I was done with mine, but I ended up exactly 384 frames short. What am I gonna do?!?!

Brandon Rice
01-26-2006, 05:55 PM
I will be at exactly 6 min. I hope! One frame at the end for credits HAHA

wcs
01-26-2006, 07:05 PM
DANG! I thought I was done with mine, but I ended up exactly 384 frames short. What am I gonna do?!?!

man, if you'd only said something a few hours ago... I just gave that exact number of frames to an episode of csi:miami.

sorry.

Brandon Rice
01-26-2006, 11:48 PM
Ok, this will be the last time I check in for awhile. Got my short down to six min. and I have 5:30 of music. (We're scoring the long version first, then editing the music for the short version). We'll finish music tomorrow night/morning. Then I'll make any final audio tweaks, and render out the sucker and review it! WHOOHOO! Almost there!

Norm Sanders
01-26-2006, 11:57 PM
I'm getting SO frusterated with the audio mix right now (levels, making the SFX sound real & organic, not planted, etc.) and compositing the FX. Ugh.

lucidz
01-27-2006, 06:41 AM
Well I shot my first footage wednesday. Hoping to wrap footage saturday, that leaves 3 days for editing, adr, scoring, sfx, vfx and rendering.

BRING IT ON DAMNIT!

(Oh and i am supposed to be out of my apartment on the 1st too!)

wcs
01-27-2006, 10:47 AM
wednesday ... saturday ... 3 days for ...

The last minute is just as good as any other minute, I say. Heaps of good luck for you.

lucidz
01-27-2006, 12:16 PM
OK, Just got word that theres a scheduling conflict saturday for the lead actress and actor. Turns out the actress got a part in a play and her rehearsal is 8pm on saturday.

The lead actor can't get to the set on saturday until 7, so they'd have only 30 minutes togethor.

Scrapped saturday shooting.

New schedule:

Saturday 4pm get togethor with lead actress to discuss next days lines, and setups. Do voiceovers, and any reshoots needed after I review wednesdays dailies.

Sunday: 2pm SHOOT ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT BABY!

LoL, I need a new nick name, like Last Minute Lucidz.

My fiance just calls me "Lasts-only-a-minute Lucidz" :(

EditPhish
01-27-2006, 01:07 PM
Sunday: 2pm SHOOT ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT BABY!

LoL, I need a new nick name, like Last Minute Lucidz.

My fiance just calls me "Lasts-only-a-minute Lucidz" :(

This made me laugh right out loud! :grin:

Good LUCK to you! We would have never gotten done on your schedule!

MojoTrancer
01-27-2006, 01:23 PM
The last minute is just as good as any other minute, I say. Heaps of good luck for you.

I like that. I need to remember one... :thumbsup:

krestofre
01-27-2006, 04:27 PM
Rotoscoping is done! Oh yeah.

Brandon Rice
01-28-2006, 12:02 AM
Nice krestofre! I'm up all night, finishing up the work with my composer. Starbucks double-shot's baby!!

Brandon Rice
01-28-2006, 05:10 AM
It's 5AM and we just finished the score. It sounds wonderful! Very pleased!!:thumbsup: :grin:

Brandon Rice
01-28-2006, 10:09 AM
Yes! My short version is almost done! We've got all the music plugged in, and I just have a bit of audio mixing to do, and it's finished! I never thought we'd get here! It's a relief. Now to make that file for upload. Jarred, does it have to be a 16:9 anamorphic file?

kimko
01-28-2006, 10:37 AM
darn briceman get some sleep brudda. good luck can't wait to see it. Chris Hurn just got the rough cut from Callaghan to make the music score, man i'm nervous. it's like watching someone on stage that i know and feeling nervous as all hell.can't wait til this thing is over! then of course on to the next project

Slice
01-28-2006, 10:40 AM
Just finished shooting yesterday. Main edit is complete as of right now. Time to start sound design.

Norm Sanders
01-28-2006, 10:59 AM
Yes, or at least masked 16:9.

Brandon, do you have your full version completed as well then? I know for myself, I HAVE to get the full version (8.5 minutes) done before the deadline, or that would drag on once I at least met the initial deadline for the 6 minute cut. So my goal is to have it all finished by tomorrow evening (working ALL day today and ALL of tomorrow morning/evening/night), then cut the sections that are planned to sit out for the 6 minute cut, and render several tests for best quality while staying under the MB maximum (40MB, I think).

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-28-2006, 11:06 AM
... while staying under the MB maximum (40MB, I think).
hey check the most recent submission sticky in sci fi
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=44613
file sizes now are whatever they are basically as they are asking for MPEG2 files with embedded audio and estimating that our file sizes will be 200+mb

so no more encoding headaches but that control is out of your hands now.


EDITED TO ADD: read down -- the 200MB and other info is sortof strewn throughout.

Norm Sanders
01-28-2006, 12:22 PM
Thanks, Jack. I also noticed in the rules thread, that the online submissions had been expanded up to 60MB! But, that's moot now, as we're all to submit the MPEG2's.

Thanks for that heads up!!

Brandon Rice
01-28-2006, 02:02 PM
Brandon, do you have your full version completed as well then? I know for myself, I HAVE to get the full version (8.5 minutes) done before the deadline, or that would drag on once I at least met the initial deadline for the 6 minute cut. So my goal is to have it all finished by tomorrow evening (working ALL day today and ALL of tomorrow morning/evening/night), then cut the sections that are planned to sit out for the 6 minute cut, and render several tests for best quality while staying under the MB maximum (40MB, I think).

Yeah, I finished the full version first. It clocked in at 10:40 without an end credit roll (still gotta add that). My other version clocks in at 5:59:22. 2 frames from 6 min! I need to tweak some audio edits in the 6 min. version, but then I'll be home free! :thumbsup:

Brandon Rice
01-28-2006, 04:22 PM
Yes! Just sent off the long version to my co-director/writer in Virginia and he loved it! A few minor audio adjustments, and we're home free baby!!! WHOO!

ChrisHurn
01-28-2006, 08:34 PM
I'm writing the score for Callaghan's film now. Pretty tight deadlines - I recieved the cut yesterday so I'm working around the clock to get it done! :)

Good luck to everyone involved, I look foward to seeing these shorts.

-Chris

CBlockDis
01-28-2006, 08:45 PM
I'm... still... waiting. :( God it's getting close. Might very well be the biggest challenge I've had to date(assuming I get it).

Ralph Oshiro
01-29-2006, 12:05 AM
Well after a series of miracles, all of my actors actually showed up! I started actually shooting at about 9:00PM Saturday night and wrapped about 11:00PM. Everything went pretty quickly, all this with no crew--just me. Basically, a dolly shot set-up, and a handheld sequence. I'm just starting to ingest now. At least I'll have SOMETHING to turn in!

kimko
01-29-2006, 12:07 AM
man , i would've helped you out with crew just ask

Dahopafilms
01-29-2006, 01:42 AM
Edited. Solved (I think, at least for now) my lack of ability in Vegas 6.0 . Not embarrassed by the final result. Really don't want to let down all those that contributed. About three frames short of 6 minutes - with credits. Rendered. 287 MBs!

Tired now.

Must ... sleep ... now ... (in a William Shatner kinda way ...)

Long live Sci-Fest!

Ralph Oshiro
01-29-2006, 01:47 AM
man , i would've helped you out with crew just askThanks! Actually didn't really need one--I move pretty fast. Used only four ights: a 2-foot, 2-bank KinoFlo, two small LowelPro open-face units, and a PAR64. And my track dolly is a total breeze to set-up. First dolly shot was lit and rigged in under ten minutes. The only person I really did need was, of course, a good BOOM OPERATOR! This shoot BARELY came together and was far too last-minute to involve skilled professionals!

GenJerDan
01-29-2006, 08:10 AM
I think I'm finished.

It looks better on a TV than it does on the computer, but... Well, it looks right if you crank up the brightness a bit and cut the contrast a tad. (Those are highly technical computer terms.)

EditPhish
01-29-2006, 09:36 AM
I think I'm finished.

It looks better on a TV than it does on the computer, but... Well, it looks right if you crank up the brightness a bit and cut the contrast a tad. (Those are highly technical computer terms.)

I just woke up.

We finished yesterday, but was up way late working on exactly the same issue Gen... trying to get it to look as good for computer viewing... This is my first time doing so as I haven't delivered video via the internet before (just DVD).

GenJerDan
01-29-2006, 10:09 AM
Don't struggle too much with it. Computer monitors are just as wildly variable as TVs...even within systems, never mind the difference between PC & Apple.

I was tempted to include some NTSC bars right at the beginning, hoping the viewer would take the hint and adjust their monitor. :grin:

The main difference I've seen (on PC systems) is the picture will just be too dark...but cranking up the brightness and cutting down the contrast little bit helps. Just gotta be careful not to wash everything out.

Slice
01-29-2006, 10:10 AM
Man, hope I finish mine by the end of the day. I would like to have a little time to walk away from the computer, come back later and see if my short still looks good to me.

EditPhish
01-29-2006, 11:08 AM
Don't struggle too much with it. Computer monitors are just as wildly variable as TVs...even within systems, never mind the difference between PC & Apple.

I was tempted to include some NTSC bars right at the beginning, hoping the viewer would take the hint and adjust their monitor. :grin:

The main difference I've seen (on PC systems) is the picture will just be too dark...but cranking up the brightness and cutting down the contrast little bit helps. Just gotta be careful not to wash everything out.

Yeah, I hear ya about monitor variation -- I deal with that with photography and graphic design... so it's something I've learned to compensate for... but not so with video!

When I watch trailors at apple.com they look great, so I was wondering if people do an "internet version" of color correction, or if it's in the encoding/converting? I'm not such a noob at the filming at editing, but this is my first time putting a short on the net! :shocked:

Karl151k
01-29-2006, 11:57 AM
My CRT is wayyy darker than my LCD. Even with my CRT's brightness all the way up and the LCD all the way down, there is still a huge discrepency. I hate it.

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-29-2006, 01:07 PM
the "standard" gamma adjustment for computer viewing is .7 gamma.

when outputting through Compressor in FCP just click the gamma filter and adjust it to .7 you may want to go to the contrast filter and ad just a hair

render the brightest part and the darkest part (or the whole thing if you have a speedy computer)

if its pretty decent -- go with it -- because GenJerDan is right, there's a ton of varience out there -- but like I said the "standard" adjustment is .7 gamma (unless its .07 -- but try both and it will be obvious) I've also gone with .8 and .9 depending on how crushed the blacks already are.

Norm Sanders
01-29-2006, 02:06 PM
You're referring to just FCP/QT, Dan, or all systems in general?

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-29-2006, 02:30 PM
some guy before the last contest posted that number - it's .7, but depending on how contrasty or not the source video that can be washed out - I thing I've used .8 alot

the adjustment just deals in general with computer monitors being a little darke than TV's (and pc's darker than mac) so the percent adjustment should be standard

In FCP the gamma slider goes from 0 - 4 and defaults to 1 with 1 being no correction. But G Filma and Magic Bullet use very differently demarked gamma sliders so no telling how it is for PC's -- but seems like general idea is you want to brighten the gamma 10 - 30 percent ... so on FCP, that means .7 , .8, or .9 of a neutral 1

I can't remember which I used for Shed, but I wen to Kinko's so I could see it on a PC monitor as well.

Brandon Rice
01-29-2006, 02:34 PM
I went around to a TV, and four different PC monitors, and two laptops, and it looked good, and approx. the same on all systems, so I'm happy.

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-29-2006, 03:08 PM
yeah you only get into "trouble" i think if you have lots of crushed blacks or its super contrasty to begin with (i.e., Shed)

Brandon Rice
01-29-2006, 03:19 PM
Yeah, I have some pretty contrasty areas but it all works!

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-29-2006, 03:29 PM
your doomed ... DOOMED I TELL YOU !!

just joking -

look forward to seeing your headache free, easy to shoot, easy to edit, easy to CC, completely hickup free, done early production :evil:

you must have been touched by and angel ... or at least a priest :cheesy:

Brandon Rice
01-29-2006, 03:35 PM
your doomed ... DOOMED I TELL YOU !!

just joking -

look forward to seeing your headache free, easy to shoot, easy to edit, easy to CC, completely hickup free, done early production :evil:

you must have been touched by and angel ... or at least a priest :cheesy:

Or I just did a really lousy job! No, it's pretty cool. And, it wasn't totally stress free. We spent a lot of time on it. The reason is went "smooth" is because I had a small crew, and cast, and they all were 100% behind the project (AKA on time, etc.) and I planned everything way ahead.

GenJerDan
01-29-2006, 03:55 PM
Now you're all confusing me with the FCP gamma stuff. :grin:

That must be some sort of program adjustment without any direct connection to the "real world". General, PC system have a gamma of 2.2 and Apple has 1.8 (which is supposedly closer to NTSC than PC stuff).

Then, as noted, LCDs are a helluva lot different from CRTs.

But my main concern is the personal settings people use, no matter what system they're on. MY monitors are normally all set pretty dark and contrasty, since my vision ain't what it used to me.

Then there are the media player settings...which are diddleable...and throw everything even further from the "truth".

I think the viewers should just be aware that none of the entrants made a conscious decision for their films to look like crap, so...if they do...try adjusting the monitor until it looks better. :)

EditPhish
01-29-2006, 05:22 PM
I think the viewers should just be aware that none of the entrants made a conscious decision for their films to look like crap, so...if they do...try adjusting the monitor until it looks better. :)
Now I like that idea Gen :grin:

Of course, if I understand all the rules and submission guidelines right, we really don't have much control over what the internet version will look like, since we'll be submitting the DVD version and the conversion is being done at Jarred's end... right? I considered the gamma adjustment thing, but then I don't want the film to look like utter garbage on people DVD Players & TVs (though it might anyway... HAHA!)

arielman
01-29-2006, 06:19 PM
I ran into the same problem.Edited everything on another computer (crt) and it looked good UNTIL I played it back on my moms 21 monitor ( crt ) on it looked way too dark .. (this is the same monitor as I did my Zombie on) , so I used it to change everything ..soo if mine is to bright ..turn it down a tad . It does look good on my OLD Sony 27" .

While out today doing on last scene ( RAIN & SNOW ) the temp dropped ..guess who wasn't wearing gloves . My fingers were SO cold the tips were NUMB , couldn't even feel the record button .
Sure glad this is over!! .
Ian

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-29-2006, 07:23 PM
Now I like that idea Gen :grin:

Of course, if I understand all the rules and submission guidelines right, we really don't have much control over what the internet version will look like, since we'll be submitting the DVD version and the conversion is being done at Jarred's end... right? I considered the gamma adjustment thing, but then I don't want the film to look like utter garbage on people DVD Players & TVs (though it might anyway... HAHA!)
well if its the same file for the DVD then all bets are off and yeah just do it so it looks good on TV

I was sort of hoping to gamma correct mine for the web and then use my charms to get jarred to to let me submit a TV coreected version if I made the DVD ... but that might be a no go depending on how many he's going to put on the DVD.

I can gaurantee you however that they are not going to be gamma correcting each movie or messing with them in anyway at all except to do one big universal batch conversion -- so if you want to take care of it on your end ... probably a good idea.

of course I'll have to think about this one file for both end products: web / DVD thing

EditPhish
01-29-2006, 07:27 PM
All films must be encoded to mpeg2 format, with a 8M average bitrate. These will be uploaded to the server, no sending in DVD's etc.

We will batch encode all films for the online viewing from the mpeg2 files.
^That's what Jarred said -- and I understood that to mean one-file uploaded for both DVD and internet.

Slice
01-29-2006, 07:45 PM
Yup, that what I thought too.

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-29-2006, 07:57 PM
I'm just gonna be mindful of that in my final cc and err slighlty on the brighter side

EditPhish
01-29-2006, 10:02 PM
The amount of times I've been back and forth to various TVs today -- ha! I'm trying to err in the middle... find the happy medium. I think I've gotten close. Tomorrow I'll go to work and test out on various monitors and TVs there :)

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-30-2006, 06:24 AM
check the sticky on submission requirments

its perfectlyt acceptable to submit one file for the DVD and another for web viewing

so you can submit your extended cut for the DVD or you can submit two diff CCed or Gamma corrected versions.

Beat Takeshi
01-30-2006, 07:29 AM
I hope its not the same file we are using for the DVD. I dont have all the credits in this version.

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-30-2006, 08:03 AM
It is unless you submit another file -- maybe Jarred could keep the upload page open for a week or so to tweek DVD versions --

Brandon Rice
01-30-2006, 08:16 AM
It is unless you submit another file -- maybe Jarred could keep the upload page open for a week or so to tweek DVD versions --

Yeah, I'll be uploading a different version for the DVD as well.

Ralph Oshiro
01-30-2006, 09:56 PM
One more day of shooting (in addition to the two hours I shot last Saturday) . . . and I'm DONE! Let's see . . . get off work tomorrow at 2:00PM (I have an early call), pick up actor, drive to location, shoot without getting noticed. Edit 'til midnight.

Jack Daniel Stanley
01-30-2006, 09:59 PM
cake for a pro like you :)

Slice
01-30-2006, 11:09 PM
:grin: Finally done with my mix.

Brandon Rice
01-30-2006, 11:13 PM
congrats!

Slice
01-30-2006, 11:21 PM
Thanks man, I thought it was never going to end. Now its time to encode.

profnoxin
01-30-2006, 11:26 PM
Muxing sucks.

Slice
01-30-2006, 11:41 PM
I agree muxing does suck.

EditPhish
01-30-2006, 11:57 PM
Congrats on finishing Slice :happy: