Tarantino's and Rodriguez's "Grindhouse"

[Filmjunkie677]

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=5566&Template=newsfull

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462322/

This is gonna be one helluva ride.

[dakotapod]

Cool! - They did "Dusk to Dawn" together. I love that flick. Their DVD commentary rocks on it. Hope this stand up

[NO CA$H]

Two movies in one with fake trailers in between. This should be cool.

[J.R. Hudson]

Cannot even wait whatsoever; Tarantino is a god.

That's right; I said it.

[dakotapod]

That's right; I said it.

:thumbsup:

[Filmjunkie677]

Tarantino's commentaries are the best. Never a moment of dead air. Always informative.

[dakotapod]

Tarantino's commentaries are the best. Never a moment of dead air. Always informative.

Only sometimes he wanders off topic for 10 minute on shit that has nothing to do with the flick...

[Slimothy]

when does the movie come out?

[Filmjunkie677]

September 22, 2006

[dakotapod]

That book looks sweet too...

[Filmjunkie677]

Is Tarantino actually gonna shoot in HD???
He said he would never shoot on anything but film, but we all know what Rodriguez shoots on.
Rodriguez is the DP on Tarantino's segment.

[dakotapod]

Is Tarantino actually gonna shoot in HD???
He said he would never shoot on anything but film, but we all know what Rodriguez shoots on.
Rodriguez is the DP on Tarantino's segment.

Good question... Who talked who into what? Or maybe half and half... :undecided

[The Machinist]

If you think about it he kinda already did when he directed that one scene in Sin City.


Ohh and this movie looks like it'll be better than shooting up pure Colombian Black Tar.

[dakotapod]

If you think about it he kinda already did when he directed that one scene in Sin City.


.

That's right! - Maybe QT has seen the light....

[J.R. Hudson]

That book looks sweet too...

What Book Dakota? :huh:

[dakotapod]

What Book Dakota? :huh:

on that bloody-disgusting.com page - That image is the book cover. looks like a sweet ass behind the scenes while making flick deal

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=5566&Template=newsfull

[Filmjunkie677]

Here's a cool article.
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1510005/09202005/story.jhtml

[NO CA$H]

Tarantino's been on a role since his first film, not one of his movies is bad. I hope he doesn't screw it up making a third kill bill.

[Justin_Kirch]

yes tarantino is shooting HD. he's converted for all of you out-of-the-loopers.

[spidey]

oh sweet nectar

[HunterG]

"Sin City" recut-Extended-Unrated, the new DVD. Disc 2 second menu, "The Long Take" they say " Shooting on Hi defintion" Rodriguez is on camera A and Quentin is on camera B

Hunter

[Filmjunkie677]

A little update: Some casting news.....
http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=5579

[ZFarms Productions]

can't wait for this to happen. definatly going to see it when it comes out.

[dvpixl]

what the hell is this movie about? is it a mock-up of the horror genre?

[Brandon Rice]

Dude. I'm excited! Can you guess who my favorite director is?

[Erik Olson]

Bronson Pinchot?

http://static.flickr.com/5/7902252_cb01a965cd_o.jpg

Oh... wait - he's an actor! My bad.

[ZFarms Productions]

Bronson Pinchot?

http://static.flickr.com/5/7902252_cb01a965cd_o.jpg

Oh... wait - he's an actor! My bad.


LOL! wow....

[Brandon Rice]

Lol!

[Filmjunkie677]

A review of Tarantino's script is up:

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22846

[J.R. Hudson]

Tks Junkie !

-

Michael Biehn is RR's film ? Awesome

[Filmjunkie677]

Quentin Tarantino's Christine.

I can't wait for this!

[Evan S]

sounds underwhelming

[Filmjunkie677]

sounds underwhelming

That's what "they" said about Kill Bill.... And Jackie Brown....

But, the fact is.... QT never disappoints. Not me anyway. And I can't see it happening anytime soon.

He is the only director, when a film comes out, I'll take a day off from work on opening day to see it.

[KingsReign]

I am not a Horror fan by any means, but I love QT and RR movies, so I will see it on their merrits...and they never disappoint...But I really want QT to make his Inglorious Bastards, I hear it is up to a trilogy now.

[Blaine]

I'm not seeing any growth in QT right now. I can't wait for him to get this stuff out of his system and get back to some edgy filmmaking.

Robert Rodriguez is a different case. I like him and what he's done for the independent filmmaker but his ceiling is somewhat lower than QT.

[MojoTrancer]

I'm a big fan of Tarantino, but man it feels like it takes forever for the guy to make a film.

Meanwhile Rodriguez is making like 2 or 3 a year. I think the best lesson to learn from him though is that if you want to make enough money to be your own boss in hollywood, then kids films are the way to go.

I just cant make myself sit down and write a family film, though. I need to hire someone to write one for me :)

[Evan S]

That's what "they" said about Kill Bill.... And Jackie Brown....

But, the fact is.... QT never disappoints. Not me anyway. And I can't see it happening anytime soon.

He is the only director, when a film comes out, I'll take a day off from work on opening day to see it.

I liked kill bill, but I didn't follow the hype.

But I like the premise.




I don't know, a guy killing people with a car doesn't sound so appealing.

[J.R. Hudson]

sounds underwhelming

please :kali:

Thanks for adding to the thread. Your insightful commentary is noted. Now go actually watch his body of work and then come back and give us an informed opinion.

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I too wish QT would make more films. I don't need 1 a year but since 1992's Reservoir Dog's he has done only 4 films. 4 films in 14 years ? (I am not counting E.R. episode, Four Room's, Sin City Guest Starring or CSI)

Since 1992's El Mariachi RR has done 8 films (Again not counting anything but Sole Directorial's)

In contrast, Spielberg has made 11 films since 1992. Interesting.

--

Grind House is going to rule.

--

I cannot even wait for INGLORIUS BASTARDS. Damn it.

[The Machinist]

Ummm isn't Mickey Rourke playing the lead in QT's half of grindhouse?

If so that's like money in the First National Bank of BadAss right there.

[J.R. Hudson]

sounds underwhelming

[Filmjunkie677]

QT is a master filmmaker.

But Rodriguez on the other hand, is more into technology and advancing the way films are made (which is good for us) and a reason why I like and admire him.

But his body of work on whole is just all over the place and not very impressive. Let's be honest.

El Mariachi is so impressive because of the way it was made and the fact it was made for $7000 on 16mm film. We all know the story.

His second film, Desperado, Pretty much a remake with a bigger budget and cast. Not very impressive.

The Faculty. Felt like a TV movie.

Dusk Till Dawn. QT's signature was all over that film. That's why I love it. Good film.

After dusk till dawn, he seemed to navigate to digital and started pumping out film after film. Not caring about quality, just evolving technology and the way he made them.

Once upon a time in mexico could've been great if he took his time with it. It felt like a 4 hour epic squashed into a 90-minute film.

But Sin City is epic. It's probably the best film he'll ever make. But he had everything right there in front of him, thanks to Frank Miller. He just brought the technology and the way to make it.

Tarantino - 14 years. 4 films. 4 masterpieces.

Rodriguez - 14 years.11 films. 1 masterpiece.

[The Machinist]

Word.

I'll take quality over quantity anyday.

Regardless of whether its underwhelming.

[J.R. Hudson]

Great post Filmjunkie

I concur 100 % !

[Blaine]

sounds underwhelming
I know you being sarcastic after your response to the same words earlier... :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

[J.R. Hudson]

Of course !

[MojoTrancer]

Can't really argue with Tarantino being the better filmmaker.

In a wierd way, Rodriguez and Lucas are both in the same camp. Both championing the technology over substance.

[Blaine]

Of course !
That being said, I pretty much agree with Filmjunkie's post EXCEPT for me, FDTD just work. It had great potential, particularly the 1st part but seemed to fall apart. QT really needs to take stock of what he wants to do and do something memorable again. JB was the last one for me.

[Filmjunkie677]

You didn't like Kill Bill, Blaine?

I have a feeling Inglorius Bastards is gonna rock people's worlds.

It is gonna be something special, like Pulp Fiction was.

[Blaine]

You didn't like Kill Bill, Blaine?
It was okay. I bought I and II. But for me it just doesn't measure up to his first three. It's entertaining, but...

[Brandon Rice]

You know, I'm more of a fan of Robert than Quentin, for sure.

[spencer]

I like them both in their own respects. Tarantino is the better film maker, sure, but Robert Rodriguez ain't no Kevin Smith either. He wants to entertain the crowd, and he does so very effectively. Probably one of the people that makes over the top action movies that I can actually enjoy. I kinda see the comparison to George Lucas, except I don't think he screwed up as much as Lucas has as of late. Then again, he never made flicks like American Graffitti either, but both of them have a penchant for entertainment, and the fact that they're not the best script writers doesn't stop them ( a catagory QT has dominance over, as obvious).

I hope Inglorious Bastards is really good. I don't see how it can't be. Kill Bill was great fun and a really good movie, but with this one Tarantino is probably gonna move back into his earlier directoral style and do less homage stuff. Let's hope at least.

[The Machinist]

I'm of the opinion that homage has always been his directorial style.

Although i do feel Reservoir Dogs was his most original work.


Anyone know anything about the story of Inglorious Bastards?

[specialed]

as far as i can tell its about some disgraced WWII soldiers who are taken off of death row and instead given a suicide mission against the nazi's...

also heard that he started work on it before shooting kill bill but the script turned out to be like 600 pages long.

no word as to whethor its going to be split up or significantly shortened, but qt said the script still probably wouldnt be finished for almost a year

only actor attached so far is micheal madsen, for obvious reasons...

other cast rumors include sly stallone, adam sandler and eddie murphy..

btw, most of this info comes from imdb, so maybe you should head over there yourself and try to wade through rumors

[Blaine]

as far as i can tell its about some disgraced WWII soldiers who are taken off of death row and instead given a suicide mission against the nazi's
Sounds like The Dirty Dozen

[specialed]

again, homage filmaking

[MojoTrancer]

Sometimes I can't figure if Quentin assumes most people haven't seen these movies, or he just doesn't care.

Basically, are we in on the joke or part of the joke :)

Still like him though. He da man.

[spencer]

I'm of the opinion that homage has always been his directorial style.

Although i do feel Reservoir Dogs was his most original work.


Anyone know anything about the story of Inglorious Bastards?

When replaying stuff of his in my head, yeah, it does seem like it was always his style. Maybe it was just that his homage in kill bill was somewhat differrent or overexaggerated at times so it seemed different. Kill Bill looked good, but Pulp Fiction was something i'd never seen on screen before.

[Filmjunkie677]

Just for you John Hudson!!!

Check out this unbelievably cool image that's floating around.

It's posted on Aint it cool news and supposedly is the cover of the screenplay.

http://www.aintitcool.com/pics/DeathProofScriptCvr.jpg

[J.R. Hudson]

AWESOME!

Thanks mang!

[Brandon Rice]

That looks RAD!

[Aaron Marshall]

I can't wait. I'm a fan of both QT and RR.

[Filmjunkie677]

It's official.

The one and only Kurt Russel, Snake Pliskin himself, will star in Tarantino's "Death Proof"


http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/060724e.php

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23947


And John Carpenter will do the music.

Wow, this just seems too good to be true.

[Shaun Patrick]

this project just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait.

[spencer]

I saw some footage--I flipped out. it was brilliant.

I believe some of a fake trailer was played in the middle as well, and if that was representative of the fake trailers we'll see.... good god they're hilarious.

[Shaun Patrick]

I saw some footage--I flipped out. it was brilliant.

I believe some of a fake trailer was played in the middle as well, and if that was representative of the fake trailers we'll see.... good god they're hilarious.

Awesome.

[J.R. Hudson]

this project just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait.

Man you are not kidding; this is great.

[skat]

I'm of the opinion that homage has always been his directorial style.

I realize I'm getting into this a little late, but I can't hardly believe all the salivating that's going on here over QT. I'll be the first to confess he's an amazing writer - as good as they come. But HOMAGE?!?! He's a straight up thief. Worse off, everyone knows it and embraces him for it. That's not respectable. Not for me anyhow.

[wesley]

lost of new pics and info over at http://www.joblo.com/

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6624/grindhousepost5cx5.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/4223/grindhousepost3bh3.jpg

[MojoTrancer]

I realize I'm getting into this a little late, but I can't hardly believe all the salivating that's going on here over QT. I'll be the first to confess he's an amazing writer - as good as they come. But HOMAGE?!?! He's a straight up thief. Worse off, everyone knows it and embraces him for it. That's not respectable. Not for me anyhow.

Every artist borrows/steals stuff from others. No matter who you are. You read a book, see a painting, hear a piece of music, watch an old movie and something just sticks in your head and sometime down the road it ends up in your stuff. If people are polite, they call it "influences" or "a homage" if they're more direct, they call it stealing. But its all the same. QT's references are just easy to pick up on. With others its a bit more difficult. But he takes his influences/homages/theft and makes it his own. And that's what's important.

[J.R. Hudson]

I realize I'm getting into this a little late, but I can't hardly believe all the salivating that's going on here over QT. I'll be the first to confess he's an amazing writer - as good as they come. But HOMAGE?!?! He's a straight up thief. Worse off, everyone knows it and embraces him for it. That's not respectable. Not for me anyhow.

Disagree 100%.

Tarantino might be the finest director working today. He is in the upper eschelon with Spielberg, Scorsese, Anderson, Malick ...

(I don't even wanna get started as I find your statement just plain ignorant)

[spencer]

I don't see what the big hubub is about. I mean, most people call him a theif because of reservoir dogs, right? because of that one old Chinese flick which has almost the exact same plot?

It's kinda a simple plot. A cop infiltrates a group of robbers, right? Am I missing something?

QT is just good, that's why everyone calls him a thief. I'm sure I'm missing something though, because if it's really that simple of a stolen plot, why doesn't anyone make a big brouhaha over Point Break?

Back to the real point of this thread--

You forgot to post the most intriguing poster of the 3, Wesley. The "Fully loaded" one. When that first came into the footage, everyone flipped out.

Actually, everyone flipped out through the entire thing. It's freaking good man.

Read the thing on JoBlo. It pretty much tells all of the good parts of the panel.

A part they dind't mention, that I particularly liked, was Tarantino's response to a question of how to get above the competition in independent film (since everyone has a good camera and can shoot whatever now). Tarantino's response was "Make Reservoir Dogs" He's becoming the Kanye West of filmmaking.

[Filmjunkie677]

I just scored the two posters off ebay!!!!!!!!!

Hell yeah!

[MojoTrancer]

Tarantino might be the finest director working today. He is in the upper eschelon with Spielberg, Scorsese, Anderson, Malick ...



And as prolific as Kubrick :)

Seems like that is changing though. he seems to be picking up the pace.


I just scored the two posters off ebay!!!!!!!!!

Hell yeah!

the posters kick a**. I need some yesterday.

[Blaine]

How can you say he's picking up the pace? It ain't out 'til it's out. The LAST thing he directed was TV...CSI last year. The last movie, Sin City, also 2005. The last QT movie...Kill Bill: Vol.2 (2004). It's time for him to stop fucking around and do something SPECIAL again. The last time to my way of thinking was Jackie Brown!!!

[MojoTrancer]

How can you say he's picking up the pace? It ain't out 'til it's out. The LAST thing he directed was TV...CSI last year. The last movie, Sin City, also 2005. The last QT movie...Kill Bill: Vol.2 (2004). It's time for him to stop poo pooing around and do something SPECIAL again. The last time to my way of thinking was Jackie Brown!!!

It was six years between Jackie Brown and Kill Bill Vol 1. And three years between Kill Bill and the supposed release of Grind House. So he is working faster. Just not a new film every year.

[the_fusionist]

I am looking forward to these two guys retiring, they and TV have crossed the line. I can't watch TV without seeing gore and people's heads being cut off and all kinds of "bloody ell". If explicit sexual content is banned then so should explict violence. I think when people have nothing to say they rely on hype, violence, and gore to affect us. At least they could inject substance into their work a la Seven but noooo, the actors all just act wise and feed us ridiculous lines. Oh lord, what has the world come to?

[Blaine]

the supposed release of Grind House. So he is working faster. Just not a new film every year.
Like I said, "It ain't out 'til it's out." If Grind House gets released on target, you're right, he's picked up his pace...from molasses to corn syrup. Still, it really isn't a full length Tarantino movie, is it. I'm waiting for him to follow his previous successes with an all new Quentin Tarantino movie, not QT and somebody else...


I am looking forward to these two guys retiring, they and TV have crossed the line. I can't watch TV without seeing gore and people's heads being cut off and all kinds of "bloody ell". If explicit sexual content is banned then so should explict violence. I think when people have nothing to say they rely on hype, violence, and gore to affect us. At least they could inject substance into their work a la Seven but noooo, the actors all just act wise and feed us ridiculous lines. Oh lord, what has the world come to?
Give me a fucking break!!!!

[Yardsale]

My roommate's gf is in the movie.

He was at Tarantino's house the other night having dinner. wish it was me :(

[J.R. Hudson]

I am looking forward to these two guys retiring, they and TV have crossed the line. I can't watch TV without seeing gore and people's heads being cut off and all kinds of "bloody ell". If explicit sexual content is banned then so should explict violence. I think when people have nothing to say they rely on hype, violence, and gore to affect us. At least they could inject substance into their work a la Seven but noooo, the actors all just act wise and feed us ridiculous lines. Oh lord, what has the world come to?

LOL :violin:

[Blaine]

John, I know you want to see an exclusive QT movie as much as I do. Let's quit this, "I'll do a guest shot on this movie" shit!

[ReneH]

No offense to you guys but I found both Kill Bill flicks boring and a rip off Bruce Lee's movie, Game of Death, to an extent. There was very little originality, esp. in the Vol 2 flick, Uma wore the track suit , almost to a tee, that Bruce used in the movie. It was nothing more than a bad American chop sockey movie effort.

Also, the only good thing from the Dusk movie was Salma Hayek's little role. Some of the scenes, like the gun mechanism emanating from one of the actor's groin, was just too juvenile.


I'm sorry to offend anyone here but whatever happened to good movies? I haven't been to the theatre too much lately, and I love movies!

[Blaine]

FDTD blew chunks. I'm not a big fan of Kill Bill but it was at least interesting. I'd order QT's movies as follows:

Jackie Brown
Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill series

RR is a different case altogether. As a filmmaker he leaves a lot to be desired. As an inspiration, there's no one greater.

[The Machinist]

Wow I totally agree with Blaine. Except on the not being a big fan of Kill Bill. Because i am.


But I would order the films that way too.



Uma wore the track suit , almost to a tee, that Bruce used in the movie

Yea that was the point.

Some directors like to drop little things like that for fans of the original source material.

[J.R. Hudson]

For me:

Jackie Brown
Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill V1
Reservoir Dogs
Kill Bill V2

And this is tight. I am just a huge fan of Quentin so having one at the bottom of the list is not indicative of how close I love them all.

[CallaghanFilms]

Pulp Fiction
-then-
Reservoir Dogs
-then-
Pulp Fiction again
-then-
Jackie Brown
-then-
Kill Bill Volume 1


Kill Bill shoulda been trimmed into one film. It's not epic enough to justify a saga.

[MojoTrancer]

I need to see Jackie Brown again. It's been ages. i hardly remember it.

So for now it would be:

Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill vol 1
Resevoir Dogs
Kill Bill vol 2

[The Machinist]

It will be after they get the 2 anime chapters Tarantino talked about at Comic Con this past weekend.

Hopefully he'll have a heavy invovlement in both.

But i still opt for Jackie Brown over all.

[Blaine]

But i still opt for Jackie Brown over all.
Thank you, and you are RIGHT, sir! :thumbsup:

[Shaun Patrick]

Jackie Brown is definitely QT's best movie, hands down. Still all the movies he directed are great--though, I consider Sin City (which I didn't like) to be a Rodriguez flick.

For me, he's one of the handful of directors working today that delivers each and every time:

QT
Terrence Malick
Errol Morris
Michael Mann
Paul Thomas Anderson
Peter Weir

[Weston]

Still, it really isn't a full length Tarantino movie, is it. I'm waiting for him to follow his previous successes with an all new Quentin Tarantino movie, not QT and somebody else...

Actually this is a real double feature...and Death Proof is a full tarantino film.

this is from aicn's report of comic con:

"- Each segment are real movies, not 1 hour each. You literally get a double feature. Tarantino says "This isn't something I'm doing with Robert... This is MY next movie. This is ROBERT's next movie."

- Quentin's script is 130 pages, Robert's is 110 pages long"

[Blaine]

Hmmm. In that case, I might be more interested.

[Filmjunkie677]

Come on, Blaine, my man...

An 80's slasher film written and directed by Tarantino and starring Kurt Russell as the killer. John Carpenter doing the music.

An A-list director doing a slasher film?? Whaaaat?

I'm drooling all over myself thinking off this film....

[Weston]

true that

[CallaghanFilms]

...For me, he's one of the handful of directors working today that delivers each and every time:

QT
Terrence Malick
Errol Morris
Michael Mann
Paul Thomas Anderson
Peter Weir

For myself, the working directors that always deliver are...


(In Order)

Spielberg
Gibson
Zemeckis
Howard
Cameron
Shyamalan
Jackson

[J.R. Hudson]

Come on, Blaine, my man...

An 80's slasher film written and directed by Tarantino and starring Kurt Russell as the killer. John Carpenter doing the music.

An A-list director doing a slasher film?? Whaaaat?

I'm drooling all over myself thinking off this film....

Super anticipation. Cannot even wait. And I swear, he better do the Bastard's after this. :kali: :violent5: :badputer:

[Weston]

For myself, the working directors that always deliver are...


(In Order)

Spielberg
Gibson
Zemeckis
Howard
Cameron
Shyamalan
Jackson

after watching the da vinci code i dont think ron howard always delivers.

[CallaghanFilms]

Ronnie can do no wrong by me :beer:

[Blaine]

Come on, Blaine, my man...

An 80's slasher film written and directed by Tarantino and starring Kurt Russell as the killer. John Carpenter doing the music.

An A-list director doing a slasher film?? Whaaaat?

I'm drooling all over myself thinking off this film....
As long as we're talking full length, yeah, I'm excited. But not for another "part" of a movie...:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

[Filmjunkie677]

The first trailer is here!!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30358

I love how it looks like a film from the 70's.

[Erik Olson]

That trailer rocks. What's up with the cheering thoughout - was this recorded into it or was it a live event recording? I'm officially stoked. I keep waiting for Snake Plisskin to break frame - and then he kinda does!

http://www.cineclub.de/images/1996/flucht_aus_la_2.jpg

Mother-*ucker this is gonna rock.

e

[NickMilo]

That trailer rocks. What's up with the cheering thoughout - was this recorded into it or was it a live event recording?

They showed it on Spike tv's Scream Awards 2006. I missed it, but on thier website it says that they will be reshowing the awards early saturday morning 2:00am. I'm gonna have to check it out... cant stand youtubes compression.

[wesley]

haha looks dope like the pope

is the first footage from one of the actual films and the second part (machette) one of the fake trailers ?

[Batutta]

In a bizarre way the cheering actually works. They should release the actual film with it to replicate the sleazy, grindhouse theater experience, with people talking back to the screen in the surround channels...At least maybe as a DVD option.

[Brandon Rice]

I loved the look they gave the film in post!

[ecking]

That teaser is beautiful! And this is only the planet terror stuff! They're still shooting death proof!

[ecking]

Higher rez link:
http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2007/DEFGH/Grindhouse/trailer.php

[JESSOPRODUCTIONS]

Hey Grindhouse dude and dudettes!! I attended this years comic con in San Diego and sat front row for the grindhouse preview-- I was wondering if any of you know if Quentin and Robert are gonna be attending the san jose fangoria convention because their movie will be there also??? and news please let me know
Thanx
jesse
JESSO productions

[wesley]

couple of new screens

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1569559_1_0_,00.html

[spidey]

The NY Times did piece on Grindhouse today, which includes details on the project that I was unaware of; including concrete run times of each feature. Tarantino's Deathproof is going to run 90 minutes and Rodriguez's Planet Terror is going to run 80 minutes. There will be several 'fake trailers' in between the two features (as reported previously by Quentin Tarantino "Cowgirls in Sweden", Eli Roth "Thanksgiving", Edward Wright, and Rob Zombie "Werewolf Women of the SS") featuring Nicholas Cage - plus the one featured prominently in the Grindhouse trailer, "They Call Him Machete" with Danny Trejo. The entire run-time of this extravaganza should be around 223 minutes. That is pushing 4 hours folks.

Here is an interesting *SPOILER* stylistic choice in Deathproof from the NYT article:

"And since the old grindhouse films were often missing reels, both filmmakers have purposefully cut out a segment of their movies. “My whole thing is to play with the audience,” said Mr. Tarantino. “I guarantee you, when it pops up ‘Missing Reel,’ the entire theater is going to scream. They might very well be screaming my name: ‘Quentin, you bastard! We hate you!’

And then the next reel starts, and all of the sudden, people who don’t like each other suddenly like each other now. ‘What happened to that guy?’ The only way to do a missing reel is, it’s got to be something you can’t wait to see.”

[BryantStanton]

The NY Times did piece on Grindhouse today, which includes details on the project that I was unaware of; including concrete run times of each feature. Tarantino's Deathproof is going to run 90 minutes and Rodriguez's Planet Terror is going to run 80 minutes. There will be several 'fake trailers' in between the two features (as reported previously by Quentin Tarantino "Cowgirls in Sweden", Eli Roth "Thanksgiving", Edward Wright, and Rob Zombie "Werewolf Women of the SS") featuring Nicholas Cage - plus the one featured prominently in the Grindhouse trailer, "They Call Him Machete" with Danny Trejo. The entire run-time of this extravaganza should be around 223 minutes. That is pushing 4 hours folks.

Here is an interesting *SPOILER* stylistic choice in Deathproof from the NYT article:

"And since the old grindhouse films were often missing reels, both filmmakers have purposefully cut out a segment of their movies. “My whole thing is to play with the audience,” said Mr. Tarantino. “I guarantee you, when it pops up ‘Missing Reel,’ the entire theater is going to scream. They might very well be screaming my name: ‘Quentin, you bastard! We hate you!’

And then the next reel starts, and all of the sudden, people who don’t like each other suddenly like each other now. ‘What happened to that guy?’ The only way to do a missing reel is, it’s got to be something you can’t wait to see.”

Stylistically, I guess it makes sense... weird though. I can see people getting pissed.

[spidey]

wel its QT of course he would do something like that.

[Kholi]

Count me in, for sure. Wasn't too stoked about it, kinda got me though.

[Mark Harris]

I dunno, if these two guys had started a project to crank out grindhouse pics like monthly, it would be way more exciting. But the big-feature and fake feel of this thing just makes it seem lame to me. It just feels like it defeats itself out of the gate...

However, Kurt Russell == I show up, so they'll get my $11.

[spidey]

11 dollars i pay 5 bucks lol

[Blaine]

I'm looking forward to Tarantino's offering. And then, hopefully, he'll go back to making 'real' movies. I'm afraid Rodriguez is going to be a bit disappointing, though. Maybe he'll surprise...one can only hope.

[spidey]

well at least QT is up first lol. smart sturctur would do the opposite since everyone wants to see QT's work.

[Kholi]

I'm a bit turned off by the blatant Raimi rip-off. And it's not because it's a Raimi rip-off, per say, but because it's a bad one, to me. That might just be me though.

[J.R. Hudson]

I'm a bit turned off by the blatant Raimi rip-off

???

Raimi isnt all that

-

This film is gonna be good times.

And then hopefully I get some bastards

[Blaine]

And then hopefully I get some bastardsAnd hopefully, that will live up to the standards he set with his first three films. :thumbsup:

[J.R. Hudson]

Damn you Blaine ! The k Billys are awesome !

[Blaine]

Damn you Blaine ! The k Billys are awesome !I'm sure they were fine movies...they just started the genre slide that QT has fallen into. He hasn't given me that witty repartee that I had grown to love since Jackie Brown. Then again, it could be that I'm just not a comic book fan (graphic novel?) and that's the feel I got from KB. You have to understand that the ONLY comic book movies that I've liked are: Unbreakable and Batman Begins...period. But, hey, that's just me. Give me more movies like RD, PF & JB and I'll be a happy camper...what about True Romance?

[Kholi]

[quote=John_Hudson]???

Raimi isnt all that /quote]

What's that got to do with tea in china?

[Mark Harris]

I'm sure they were fine movies...they just started the genre slide that QT has fallen into. He hasn't given me that witty repartee that I had grown to love since Jackie Brown. Then again, it could be that I'm just not a comic book fan (graphic novel?) and that's the feel I got from KB. You have to understand that the ONLY comic book movies that I've liked are: Unbreakable and Batman Begins...period. But, hey, that's just me. Give me more movies like RD, PF & JB and I'll be a happy camper...what about True Romance?

I agree with you Blaine. He's clearly a major talent, but Kill Bill felt just like a really boring exercise to me, and kind of a backward slide. I mean, he should do whatever he wants, but I think he's such a talented and skilled filmmaker, that I want to see him keep advancing...

[BryantStanton]

I second the notion of him do Inglorious Bastards asap. I'd be at the theater in an instant. QT does WW2? Hell yes.

[J.R. Hudson]

[quote=John_Hudson]???

Raimi isnt all that /quote]

What's that got to do with tea in china?

You mentioned it was a blatant rip-off and I asked ??? Por Que ???

And then I summarized; what's to rip off with Raimi ? He's an average director; competent, but nothing that shows a true autuer

[David Jimerson]

John Hudson? 8:18 AM? :Drogar-Shock(DBG): :smile:

[J.R. Hudson]

I had too take the little man to school this morning (How you people get up this early everyday is a mystery)

[spidey]

ha im up at 6 everyday john a go to be around 12 or 1 if im lucky.

[Kholi]

[quote=Kholi]

You mentioned it was a blatant rip-off and I asked ??? Por Que ???

And then I summarized; what's to rip off with Raimi ? He's an average director; competent, but nothing that shows a true autuer
It has nothing to do with him being average, above average, or anything else. What kind of debate is that? It doesn't matter what or who he is, my point is that it's too similar and a pretty bad similarity (from the trailer, who knows how it'll play in the movie.)

Ash - Lost hand, acquired chainsaw from hand.

Rodriguez' chic - Lost leg, acquired maching gun for leg.

What does that comparison have to do with anyone being a director as opposed to content, plot, or story? Now, that's not to say that there haven't been stories where people lost a limb and acquired a weapon. Pirates are known to trade hands for hooks, and all. Point was, it immediately struck me as a "loner" from Raimi's cult classic. Again, how that plays on screen may be totally different.

[spidey]

yeah a gun for a leg come on. why not sword arms.

[J.R. Hudson]

[quote=John_Hudson]
It has nothing to do with him being average, above average, or anything else. What kind of debate is that? It doesn't matter what or who he is, my point is that it's too similar and a pretty bad similarity (from the trailer, who knows how it'll play in the movie.)

Ash - Lost hand, acquired chainsaw from hand.

Rodriguez' chic - Lost leg, acquired maching gun for leg.

What does that comparison have to do with anyone being a director as opposed to content, plot, or story? Now, that's not to say that there haven't been stories where people lost a limb and acquired a weapon. Pirates are known to trade hands for hooks, and all. Point was, it immediately struck me as a "loner" from Raimi's cult classic. Again, how that plays on screen may be totally different.

Ok.

:violin:

[spidey]

lol.

[Kholi]

Ok.

:violin:

Sorry, your bore no relevance. =D But, it's still all good.

[jpeck]

I don't think it is a blatant rip-off. The idea of weapons for body parts is not something unique to Raimi. I remember reading an interview with Romero after he made Dawn of the Dead and was talking about how he had an idea to cut off infected body parts and attach a weapon in its place. Which far outdates Raimi's chainsaw hand.

Originality is great, execution is more important.

On a personal note, I dislike Raimi or Roderiguez equally, so no bias from me.

[Kholi]

I don't think it is a blatant rip-off. The idea of weapons for body parts is not something unique to Raimi. I remember reading an interview with Romero after he made Dawn of the Dead and was talking about how he had an idea to cut off infected body parts and attach a weapon in its place. Which far outdates Raimi's chainsaw hand.

Originality is great, execution is more important.

On a personal note, I dislike Raimi or Roderiguez equally, so no bias from me.

Already covered that.

[J.R. Hudson]

I don't think it is a blatant rip-off. The idea of weapons for body parts is not something unique to Raimi. I remember reading an interview with Romero after he made Dawn of the Dead and was talking about how he had an idea to cut off infected body parts and attach a weapon in its place. Which far outdates Raimi's chainsaw hand.

Originality is great, execution is more important.

On a personal note, I dislike Raimi or Roderiguez equally, so no bias from me.

Bingo.

[Kholi]

Bingo.

Slingo >

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

wow I just saw all the two trailers.
holy crap.
Great way to spend an afternoom.
can't wait.

[jpeck]

Grindhouse split into two different movies in certain parts of the world?!?!??!!?!?!?!!?

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/8241

Sounds fricken lame! Splitting the film/s NULLIFIES what these films are all about.

Sounds like a $$$$$ grab.

[spidey]

not really some people can only sit for so long. average people will be like is it over yet i mean its almost five hours long plus if anything tarintino would make more money due to his name and hes establish as a master of cinema (yeah he takes from people so what) when RR is a guy who got toys....

[jpeck]

It will be shorter than an LOTR film, unless they have decided to increase the orginal length of each film. There is the rumor that its length has been increased from 180 minutes to 223. I wonder if that includes an intermission or is only film time.

Splitting defeats the purpose of a double feature grindhouse experience, which is what they are supposively trying to do.

While I love Tarantino and most of his work, I would not consider him a master. He really hasn't done anything TRULY SIGNIFICANT since Jackie Brown. Kill Bill, masterful work? Not really. It is lame that for over a year he has been claiming he wants to give people the double feature experience and to make these films in a true "grindhouse" way. Look around for his vids at conventions and listen how excited he is about a double feature. Makes me wonder if this is a QT/RR choice, or a Weinstein/distribution/$$$$$ one.

[Billy Pilgrim]

One a side note, I'm glad I'm not the only person who appreciates Jackie Brown. For some reason a lot of people I know, hate it. I think it's his best, and most mature work.

I love both Rodriguez and Tarantino, so I've been anticipating Grindhouse for a long long time. I love From Dusk Till Dawn, so I'm really interested in seeing what horror they'll come up with this time around.

[spidey]

still cant believe what RR did and dumped his family
you guys read about that damn...

[jpeck]

Since I am not a fan of his work, I don't follow whats going on with him. What did he do?

[spidey]

he like just up and left his family for rose macgowan whatever her name is.

[jpeck]

*&#^ I would too!

[spidey]

thats fucked up

[jpeck]

I was joking!

Or was I?

:lipsrseal

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Grindhouse split into two different movies in certain parts of the world?!?!??!!?!?!?!!?

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/8241

Sounds fricken lame! Splitting the film/s NULLIFIES what these films are all about.

Sounds like a $$$$$ grab.
not really some people can only sit for so long. average people will be like is it over yet i mean its almost five hours long plus if anything tarintino would make more money due to his name and hes establish as a master of cinema (yeah he takes from people so what) when RR is a guy who got toys.... I get what jpeck is saying though, it's part of the whole "concept" that they are packaged together so it "lessens" the artistic experience some.

I am definitely going to see it all together. Maybe I will go down to NC and see it with Hudson and we can take our Geritol, sit on our but donuts and lower back supports, wear our nicotene patches and catheters and watch the thing.

[Jared Meyer]

Grindhouse split into two different movies in certain parts of the world?!?!??!!?!?!?!!?

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/8241

Sounds fricken lame! Splitting the film/s NULLIFIES what these films are all about.

Sounds like a $$$$$ grab.
Makes perfect sense to me. "Grindhouse" is unique to American cinema. Besides, each film will still be feature length so it's not as if anyone will be ripped off. Nobody in Europe will miss the "grindhouse" aspect because they never experienced it to begin with.

I'd make the same business decision if it were me. Heck, the studio wouldn't be doing a very good job if they didn't take advantage of the situation.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

I've never experienced it. But that's the part of the point. To bring something to a people that never experienced it. I don't think it's a sign of the apocalypse that the films will be broken up or anything, but it diminishes the filmmakers' intent.

[jpeck]

If they never experienced it, it is even more of a reason that it should be played together in the way it was originally intended to be seen. I thought QT was all about bringing new types of cinema to people who have never experienced it, guess not. QT has the clout to do what he wants. Their integrity goes out the window with splitting the film into two.

Just as Jack said, it is not the end of the world, but imo, it is pretty poo poo poo pooing LAME.

[Matthew B. Moore]

I'm all for it. I think this little movement makes a bright spot in the otherwise milky sludge that is most of what is coming out of Hollywood. It see the trailers and I smile. I know what to expect from a movie about a chic with a machinegun for a leg. I'm hungry for something different. I know it's rehash, but it's a modern take on something that was mostly forgotten. Some choose to forget...I strain to remember...I was very young the first go around and mostly caught cult showings or wierd late-nite hacking jobs. All I know is that when I see the trailer, the "wow, cool, man" kid in me and the "that was bad ass" adult in me do a hi-5.
The only issue I have is the deleted reel crap. I don't see that as charming or cool. I know it happened back in the day, but it never happened on purpose and I can't imagine that it ever made the film any better. Now it's placed just right, I could see QT using it as a different way to tell the story. I'm sure that is the case...man, I hope that is the case.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

I can see the deleted reel thing as being lots of fun. In the middle of The Departed? Not so much. But these things look like such roller coaster rides, i.e., designed for fun, that I can see it being a joke or a gag that the audience might even like the fun off. It sounds basically like a reshuffle of the movie. He's said that people that were fighting and stuff are like allies and good friends after the missing reel. So I can see that as just a fun joke. I think as long as the audience "gets it" it could all be part of the fun, the inverted loop on the roller coaster.

Wow. I typed this whole post and spell check didn't find anything. That's never happened before.

[jpeck]

Wow. I typed this whole post and spell check didn't find anything. That's never happened before.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/gallowan/applause3.jpg




I agree about the lost reel. It is part of the experience QT/RR are trying to give us, just like it should be a double POO POOING feature!