Music Video

[artistiam]

What ever happened to that guy who shot a vid on the hvx? He posted a still of a guy and a girl in a car?

[Angrius]

Exactly.
A music video is produced shot and edited within a maximum time frame of 3 weeks. WHERE'S THE BEEF???

[monte]

A music video is produced shot and edited within a maximum time frame of 3 weeks.

Huh?

E-Sarcasm?

[danny dale]

the music video for john brannen that was used to launch the HVX at DVExpo west (december 7th i think) - shot by michael caporale... i've been wondering the same thing. the info is on the panasonic/tosh-blog site. jan had mentioned the possibility of putting the greenscreen footage up so we could download it and do our own keys (or something like that).

[Angrius]

Huh?

E-Sarcasm?

No sarcasm..that's the straight up truth. Take if from a guy who worked in that industry for 6 years.

What is also intesting is that the video is not even mentioned on the artists website. Did something go horribly wrong or was this just a phony tosh-esque publicity stunt? I'd love to actually see the finished video so hopefully somebody has an answer:) It would be interesting to hear from the Director and DOP what they thought of it.

[danny dale]

What is also intesting is that the video is not even mentioned on the artists website. Did something go horribly wrong or was this just a phony tosh-esque publicity stunt? I'd love to actually see the finished video so hopefully somebody has an answer:) It would be interesting to hear from the Director and DOP what they thought of it.

this is from haakon who saw it at DVexpo and said he was not impressed- when asked if the keys were lame or just the video in general:

"Eh, kinda both... but mostly the video in general. I think the keying has been pretty decent from the camera... it seems to be somewhat easy to work with, at the very least. Every example I've seen of keyed footage from the HVX has had that subtle "blockiness" around some of the edges (like the guy's ear in the example that was posted in this topic), but I think in a moving environment, it's not entirely too bad. Getting consistent lighting and depth of your subject and background so it looks like the person actually belongs in front of where he's being keyed is probably the more important part. I think a large part of the reason that I didn't like the keying from that music video was that it didn't look realistic at all... not because there were limitations on the keying itself."

[Stevet]

Help me out here, maybe I'm not understanding?
The latest greenscreen shot is someone staning in front
of a greenscreen right?

The blockyness around the ear resides in the greenscreen shot before it was ever keyed with the background image.

[Haakon]

The blockyness around the ear resides in the greenscreen shot before it was ever keyed with the background image.
Exactly... which would make it a limitation of the camera.

[ckarcher]

I've done quite a bit of compositing on projects shot on the Varicam, and I must say that if you want the best possible composite, you really need to shoot on a different format. DVC PRoHD is great, but not perfect. there are always compression artifacts in the composite that need to be resolved in post.

Even with varicam footage, there is a lot of work to get an acceptable key: that is a codec limitation.

If you want the best key, shoot on a Viper or composite from film or HDCam and spend 100k+ on equipment.


This camera is totally amazing for it's price- but let's not live in a fantasy world.

[philnerd]

Exactly... which would make it a limitation of the camera.

Didn't Michael Pappas mention that Apple's DVCPROHD codec implementation may have contributed to the rather extreme blocking issues in that shot?

[Haakon]

Well that's entirely possible, but that would still be a fault of the camera using DVCPROHD. The point was, it wasn't a fault of the keying program.

[snarton]

Did this John Brannen video ever surface? I can't find it on the internet.
--Jeremy

[HVXguy]

Did this John Brannen video ever surface? I can't find it on the internet.
--Jeremy

It is on Version 3 of the HVX video from Panasonic. Also on the DVD-ROM is the original footage that Barry and Jared shot.

[snarton]

Thanks. I requested that DVD from Panasonic, but it never arrived. I'll give it another shot.
--Jeremy