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petelms
01-07-2006, 04:36 PM
Hi.

I saw this pic in the ad and got intrested how it is actually done. :huh:

Ok, it has been shot with greenscreen to get the background away, right? But how do you think those shadows in the subject's face have been done? Are they real shadows or have they been done in Photoshop or something like that? How can I do this kind of picture?

http://tinypic.com/jtxlyf.jpghttp://tinypic.com/jtxs2b.jpg

Thanks! :thumbsup:

Chris Messineo
01-07-2006, 04:40 PM
I'm no expert, and while I' m sure Photoshop could be used to tweak this image, I don't see any reason why the shadows above couldn't be created with focused lights on the set.

Chris

petelms
01-07-2006, 04:43 PM
Thanks, Chris. :thumbup: What do you think, what kind of light has been used with this picture? :undecided I have to try this someday and see how it looks like...

Chris Messineo
01-07-2006, 04:56 PM
Well, he's clearly lit from above. As for the actualy light type, I'm definitely no expert. I'm sure someone else will have the answer though. It will probably end up being PS after all. :)

Chris

petelms
01-07-2006, 04:59 PM
Ok, let's wait some expert comes and clears the table! :grin: Thanks, Chris.

David Jimerson
01-07-2006, 05:32 PM
Just looks like a strong key angled from directly in front and above. Could have been some masking or focusing of the light to keep it mostly on his face. Not a whole lot to it, really. There might have been a backlight to separate from the greenscreen, but maybe not -- the edge doesn't look like it had an "aura."

Jon Oskar
01-07-2006, 08:01 PM
As said before you dont really need photoshop for the shadows, but what has bin done here is the shadows have bin crushed in PS and any detail blacked out, giving those clean black shadows. The outside edge of the guy has surely bin cut out with PS, and again this ads to the clean silhouette feeling. All in all this is no major thing to do and could technically be done without PS, just a little less slick. So to your question - YES AND NO - PS has just exaggerated and stylized, what was already a picture lit more or less like this.

hope this helps

P.S.

It is usually better to shoot a picture like this less contrast and with lighter shadows than you want for the final image and than do it exactly how you want it in post.

Daniel Skubal
01-07-2006, 08:05 PM
His eyes were brightened and softened

kai
01-07-2006, 10:14 PM
Lighting the shot was a big factor in the look. Also, there's really no need to greenscreen for still photos. You're only working with one frame, so you can just cut it out in PS.

petelms
01-08-2006, 04:00 AM
Ok, guys! Wonderful information. Thanks. :thumbup:

petelms
01-08-2006, 04:21 AM
Lighting the shot was a big factor in the look. Also, there's really no need to greenscreen for still photos. You're only working with one frame, so you can just cut it out in PS.

Ahaa...Hmm...is there any reason for photographers to use green screen? Do photographers use green screen also sometimes or is it only for videos&film stuff always? :undecided

Jon Oskar
01-08-2006, 06:02 AM
No green screen in photography!!! as you always get a better result cutting out by hand than doing a automatic green selection. Only in film where there are so many frames it would not be an good option to cut them out one by one, so the green screen is if properly done an acceptable compromise and since we are not looking at a still image, the resolution is lower and the image is constantly changing we pay less attention to what is in the end a sloppy automatic cut out. In the end even multi $$$$ movies dont mange to make it look super grate, and it has to be masked behind atmospheric and stylized grading, flares, blurs...

petelms
01-09-2006, 10:56 AM
Ok, Jon! Thanks. :thumbup:

somewestfilms
01-20-2006, 07:15 PM
I would have to say that it's probobly the actual shadows.

jamestmather
01-20-2006, 08:13 PM
Just find yourself a model with a square head. Voila.

Jim Kilgour
01-21-2006, 12:27 AM
Real shadows. If they were PS, you'd see it here.

http://members.shaw.ca/kg.brown/jtxlyf.jpg

g0ldenb0y55
02-03-2006, 04:58 PM
I agree with Jon.

uhrgl
02-03-2006, 05:06 PM
Real shadows. If they were PS, you'd see it here.

http://members.shaw.ca/kg.brown/jtxlyf.jpg

What are we looking at here?

Aaron Marshall
02-03-2006, 10:23 PM
Here's a quick photo I took of myself a long time ago.

http://noct.us/noct.jpg

It looks similarly lit to that picture. It was just a flash super close up. It lit the front of my face up quite a bit, and in comparison the rest was captured as darkened.

petelms
02-04-2006, 02:58 AM
Noct, that looks very similar! Thanks for the post. :happy: