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Jay Jay
12-15-2005, 01:36 PM
Im trying to do a photo montage in premiere and you know how they do it in vh1 3d photo montage background blur and charracters out of the background and soming and out with high quality, i try to do it but the image becomes pixleated pleaaaaaasee hellp

scharky
12-15-2005, 02:42 PM
what version of premiere are you using? Any version before premiere pro would automatically size your photo to 720x480, so if you zoom, you are interpolating the image.

Jay Jay
12-18-2005, 11:14 PM
help?

skettalee
12-19-2005, 08:10 AM
Answer his question for one thing. You should do it in Adobe After Effects. That would make things very easy for you. Atleast if you knew the program. I dont understand the effect you are talking about. Name a specific show that you seen this.

Jay Jay
12-19-2005, 11:30 AM
The fabalous life of on VH1

skettalee
12-19-2005, 01:46 PM
Hmm... Give me a better description.

You want to have a picture of a person and then they zoom up a bit and the background gets blurry then huh?

All you do is take a high res pic of the person, cut them out, make a PNG wtih transparency. put the original pic in video 1 and in video 2 put the cut out, EXACTLY ON TOP. then when you want it to zoom up, make the video 2 zoom up a bit while making video 1 get blurry.

Is that it?

scharky
12-19-2005, 02:19 PM
Answer his question for one thing.

I was trying to Sketta.

If he is using premiere Pro, this would be very easy to do, same with if he was using vegas or FCP, all of these programs can scale large images and keep them at their native resolution. That's why I asked him what version it was. He didn't answer, so I couldn't answer his question. You don't really need after effects for this type of effect, it is easily done in most any NLE.

scharky
12-19-2005, 02:23 PM
The way I would do it would be to cut each part of the photo out in photo shop, and make them separate layers. You can then bring each individual layer into your NLE, or After effects, lay them on separate tracks and then move them in 3D space, at least in Vegas, you can, not sure about Ppro. HOwever, if I think I understand your first question, and you want to have the images on a focal plane, then yes, you would have to use a program like after effects wich supports 3d layering and camera focal point layering. this is a pretty advanced technique, so I would suggest reading in the manual about 3d layering and camera composting in 3d space.

Matt Grunau
12-21-2005, 10:29 AM
The way I would do it would be to cut each part of the photo out in photo shop, and make them separate layers. You can then bring each individual layer into your NLE, or After effects, lay them on separate tracks and then move them in 3D space, at least in Vegas, you can, not sure about Ppro. HOwever, if I think I understand your first question, and you want to have the images on a focal plane, then yes, you would have to use a program like after effects wich supports 3d layering and camera focal point layering. this is a pretty advanced technique, so I would suggest reading in the manual about 3d layering and camera composting in 3d space.


What he said. You can do that kind of animation in Premiere, but you will not have the ability to use motion blur or have it in 3D space. That means no DOF, no calculated Parallax, and everything moved my hand. Of course, you can have multiple layers with differing blurs and keyframe the opacity to reveal each, but factor that in with all the other aspects you have to do by hand in premiere and it becomes one hell of a work around.

As to the pixelation you are getting, remember that the final output from Premiere for TV will be at NTSC settings, but that doesn't mean your project's assets have to be. You are getting pixelation because you are zooming into an image that has been converted to 640x480 (Square pixels) or 720x480 (non-Square pixels). Dont do that. Leave them at a larger size, and scale them down in Premiere. That way, when you up-scale, you have a good image.

Matt Grunau
12-21-2005, 10:30 AM
The way I would do it would be to cut each part of the photo out in photo shop, and make them separate layers. You can then bring each individual layer into your NLE, or After effects, lay them on separate tracks and then move them in 3D space, at least in Vegas, you can, not sure about Ppro. HOwever, if I think I understand your first question, and you want to have the images on a focal plane, then yes, you would have to use a program like after effects wich supports 3d layering and camera focal point layering. this is a pretty advanced technique, so I would suggest reading in the manual about 3d layering and camera composting in 3d space.


What he said. You can do that kind of animation in Premiere, but you will not have the ability to use motion blur or have it in 3D space. That means no DOF, no calculated Parallax, and everything moved my hand. Of course, you can have multiple layers with differing blurs and keyframe the opacity to reveal each, but factor that in with all the other aspects you have to do by hand in premiere and it becomes one hell of a work around.

As to the pixelation you are getting, remember that the final output from Premiere for TV will be at NTSC settings, but that doesn't mean your project's assets have to be. You are getting pixelation because you are zooming into an image that has been converted to 640x480 (Square pixels) or 720x480 (non-Square pixels). Dont do that. Leave them at a larger size, and scale them down in Premiere. That way, when you up-scale, you have a good image.