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galt
11-30-2005, 03:50 PM
I still have not got my plot laid out, so I guess I am not giong to make one this time. Being a judge should be fun though.

How is everyone else doing? Anyone thru production yet? Anyone not started writing yet that still thinks they can get it done in time?

Brandon Rice
11-30-2005, 04:01 PM
Finished writing the script. Everyone who has seen the script has loved it.

Finished casting.

Secured all locations, but one for a one shot flashback scene.

Scheduled a table reading for second week in December.

Shooting scheduled for last week in December. Any pick-ups (Hope we don't need them) will be shot in the first week of January.

I will be cutting and CC'ing the film during a vacation to Florida, it should be cut and CC'd by the time I get back, the second week of January.

This will give my composer two weeks to score it, and finalize any last minute things.

This is my plan. Of course, it'll most likely change, but you gotta start somewhere!

J.R. Hudson
11-30-2005, 04:02 PM
I aint done poo poo.

Thomas J. O'Hara
11-30-2005, 04:15 PM
i have the treatment done
i've thought about locations
i thought about buying a G35
but my credit card is maxed out

Shaw
11-30-2005, 04:19 PM
Still beating on a script. Need to finish by the end of the week or I might not make this one.

Jeremy Ordan
11-30-2005, 05:13 PM
My script has been written since three days after it was announced. It has been in my actors hands since four days after it was announced. My locations have been secured since six days after it was announced.

I haven't done much since then. Trying to shoot a couple of scenes in two weeks and then the rest in January...

I hate actors... Thinking about using GI Joes.

Brandon Rice
11-30-2005, 05:26 PM
Nice, Yankee! At least you have given your actors ample time to review the script, and know the characters.

blckhawk542
11-30-2005, 05:40 PM
Written the script

Made a sweeet storyboard in MS Paint....I kno Barry Green will be proud of me! :grin:

I have some locations in mind....not totally sure yet.

Lights.....still have to go to Home Depot and buy some of those Halogens and go to Rosco and buy gels.

Does anyone know if I could some how hook up a halogen lamp to a car?...maybe thru the cigerette thing with a transformer? because those things need like massive amounts of electricity. Because one scene i kno for sure is filmed in the woods...and there is noo outlets or anything in the woods.

besides all that mumbo jumbo..im ready!

NO CA$H
11-30-2005, 09:38 PM
Script is almost finshed and I have a secure location.

wcs
11-30-2005, 10:18 PM
I'm behind, looking at an early january shoot, if at all. Things are piling up right now, and even though I really like the script, I might just have to settle for something else (maybe an older script that's easier to shoot).

But, I agree with the signature of someone I read on the board. You can make movies or you can make excuses.

fixitinpost
12-01-2005, 12:16 AM
Script is done, most of the locations are secured, I only have to cast one more actor. I've also got the boards about half way done (doubling as a school assignment, or I wouldn't have done ones this nice). Started gathering sound elements, and we're looking to shoot over Christmas break.

LloydC
12-01-2005, 12:45 AM
today, I just decided I'm going to enter.

i have an idea too.

xl70e3
12-01-2005, 12:53 AM
I ain't done poo poo either =|

Ralph Oshiro
12-01-2005, 12:55 AM
Finally got the script from my writer tonight. The setting is as I wanted. But the story . . . while good--it's just not my style. Back to SQUARE ONE.

Beat Takeshi
12-01-2005, 07:27 AM
We nailed down a tight schedule, working on the budget, auditions on the 11th, securing crew, starting the effects tests today, shooting the first 2 weekends in jan.

PixelMagic
12-01-2005, 08:16 AM
Secured Alien CGI model, Finishing up first visual effects shot today. Secured all actors. Planning for late Decemeber shoot.

Shaun Patrick
12-01-2005, 08:34 AM
Locked our locations, secured actors, started storyboarding/shotlisting... Shoot date is in early January--one day of shooting total.

Shaw
12-01-2005, 09:14 AM
The script situation is looking up. For some reason this is always the hardest part for me... maybe I'm just a freak and perfectionist or something.


But the story . . . while good--it's just not my style.

I know what you mean! That's what's kept me from having someone else write the script. I finally decided (well, a while ago) to bag the writer idea and do it myself.

Mike McNeese
12-01-2005, 09:19 AM
Ink isn't even dry on my script.

Hectorxd
12-01-2005, 09:40 AM
Wrote the script, storyboarded it out. Havent done much after that. Going to start looking for actors at end of December, and look to shoot at start of January. I hope I can get something done before the deadline. Right in the middle of moving and getting married and its taking up too much time. :(

img
12-01-2005, 10:29 AM
i will start shooting in a week or so. should be done around the middle of january i hope.

BrianV
12-01-2005, 01:32 PM
Script completed, cast signed, line script completed, dates set. Shot list looking solid. Locations set, costumes set... etc etc. Other minutae taken care of.

Now just a matter of doing everything we can.

Rock on, all.

Norm Sanders
12-02-2005, 01:12 AM
We just secured our final locations yesterday for our shoot next weekend. I wish we had a need for a major set, or the budget for it, because the warehouse I got for us is 5,500 square feet with 30-40 foot tall ceilings!

Also got a great coffee shop that's really nice & mimics the Starbucks look. Lastly, shooting at my house, but hoping to find another home that doesn't have to deal with three kids running around (easier to shoot elsewhere than to get all my little ones out of the house).

Things are getting exciting!

Ralph Oshiro
12-02-2005, 02:43 AM
Damn! Everybody's got all kinds of cool stuff for their shorts already.

Ralph Oshiro
12-02-2005, 02:48 AM
I know what you mean! That's what's kept me from having someone else write the script. I finally decided (well, a while ago) to bag the writer idea and do it myself.I know what YOU mean! I ask (writers) for Die Hard, and all I get is The Ring.

Norm Sanders
12-02-2005, 03:46 AM
Oh yeah, we had our auditions last night, and there's a couple promising ones that came out of it, but we're pretty much at ZERO right now for females, and hav three roles to fill, two of which are key, one of which is the antagonist.

We'd never be able to do this in LA, but I contacted a talent agency in Portland, said this was pro-bono, and the agent helped me anyway, giving me the names/numbers of 8-9 attractive, talented, and physically fit women in their 20's-30's. Couldn't believe it. Already met with one today, which I think will fit one role REALLY well, and have another hopeful that may be interested in coming down from Seattle for the part ... again, for free. Crazy, huh?

And I'm telling you, Craig's List is the bomb. Through our CREW ad, we've secured a story board artist. Saw his stuff today, and very pro/industry standard.

lucidz
12-02-2005, 08:35 AM
Well my script is fairly finalized, still. My lead actress disappeared, then reappeared, my light guy is out of town till who knows when.

Done a couple green screen tests and that went really well.
I tried to do some previs but it was taking forever. Did about 1/2 the storyboarding.

I'm hoping to pull it all togethor :\

RMI Studios
12-02-2005, 05:44 PM
Have all of you guys secured a composer or sound designer yet? If not, check out some of my stuff at this link. PM me if you want to work together on this contest..

www.rmistudios.com/ScoreIdeas


c.r.

janzie
12-03-2005, 06:28 AM
i took november off and will think about the script next week...played around with cgi aliens (that sucked) and think about puppets (could be fun)...

does anyone know how to build those things? or maybe some ressources in the net?

EShy
12-03-2005, 07:43 AM
Still in the script phase here
not looking forward to casting, a few months ago we needed to cast an english speaking short and it was hell, those accents were killing me. could always do it in hebrew but it just doesn't sound right

Ralph Oshiro
12-03-2005, 08:02 AM
Here I go again . . . I'm shooting greenscreen tests in my living room. I'm buyng props and gear. All with no script!

GenJerDan
12-03-2005, 09:57 AM
grumble, grumble. My wife is making me do it, after all. So much for lounging around, doing nothing this month...

So. Got the opening titles and the closing credits. Just have to do the stuff in the middle. A snap.

Oy.

Ought2bCommitted
12-03-2005, 12:39 PM
I'm still errrr......laughing.... I mean looking at the headshots I got for my piece. Will cast next week and shoot through the holidays to post in January.

Anyone else do a casting and get...well...interesting pics? I wish I could start a thread with some of the headshots I got... one in particular...a 40ish woman with very bleached hair in a see through white fuzzy sweater...NO bra...and see through white panties.... well, her head was in it so I guess technically it IS a "head shot"... LOL

-RC

Shaw
12-03-2005, 01:03 PM
:shocked: :shocked: - that's certainly qualifies for an interesting head shot

At least you have a large pool to choose from! Here in Montana pickings are rather slim :)

Ought2bCommitted
12-03-2005, 01:11 PM
:shocked: :shocked: - that's certainly qualifies for an interesting head shot

At least you have a large pool to choose from! Here in Montana pickings are rather slim :)

Shaw, I'll send you some of the 250 or so I got!

Of that, I'd say about 50 (if I'm lucky) were even remotely professionally presented.

EXample....one genius mailed me his headshot... on his resume he crossed out in black marker his phone #...................
......................and didn't write another one....

His headshot was a b/w Xerox copy too.

But, if I was crazy enough to be interested in him.....how the f**k do I find him???!!!! :beer:

Shaw
12-03-2005, 01:22 PM
Sweet!

The question now is which of those 50 can act :)

Ought2bCommitted
12-03-2005, 01:28 PM
Sweet!

The question now is which of those 50 can act :)

I've seen two of their reels, which I like. That leaves two more characters to cast.

Norm Sanders
12-03-2005, 01:35 PM
See if there's a local talent agency to draw from. I was really surprised by the response we've gotten. We've got our two main female roles (one's the antagonist/lead) filled, because of the assistance of a local talent agency. They both act well, and LOOK great (okay, stunning actually). The lead's got an Angelina Jolie thing going on.

I rec'd a few lame headshots through Craig's List, but the bigger problem I bet you folks will have is the talent not LOOKING like their headshots. When we held auditions, the one gal that could make it looked NOTHING like her headshot (which was okay). When she showed up ... YEESH!!! Next. To top it off, she couldn't deliver her lines with any emotion. Monitone Jone.

Ought2bCommitted
12-03-2005, 01:36 PM
See if there's a local talent agency to draw from. I was really surprised by the response we've gotten. We've got our two main female roles (one's the antagonist/lead) filled, because of the assistance of a local talent agency. They both act well, and LOOK great (okay, stunning actually). The lead's got an Angelina Jolie thing going on.

I rec'd a few lame headshots through Craig's List, but the bigger problem I bet you folks will have is the talent not LOOKING like their headshots. When we held auditions, the one gal that could make it looked NOTHING like her headshot (which was okay). When she showed up ... YEESH!!! Next. To top it off, she couldn't deliver her lines with any emotion. Monitone Jone.

Hey Norm!

Yeah, I haven't even touched on that yet!!! YIIIKKKEEESSSSS!!!!!

Norm Sanders
12-03-2005, 02:24 PM
I'm on a pretty big high today (yes, natural) :grin: The script is pretty rock solid (paces at 10-12 minutes, but we'll have a 6 min. cut for the fest), and has been getting great feedback. The lady who's playing the antagonist will be driving 3 HOURS from Seattle to do this (staying over night 2 nights for it), because she liked the script/character (found her through the agency).

K, sorry, shutting up now. :) WHOHOO!!

Ought2bCommitted
12-03-2005, 02:26 PM
I'm on a pretty big high today (yes, natural) :grin: The script is pretty rock solid (paces at 10-12 minutes, but we'll have a 6 min. cut for the fest), and has been getting great feedback. The lady who's playing the antagonist will be driving 3 HOURS from Seattle to do this (staying over night 2 nights for it), because she liked the script/character (found her through the agency).

K, sorry, shutting up now. :) WHOHOO!!

Awesome!!!! Natural highs are always good!!!! Can't wait to see yours!

And don't shut up! Share as much as you want!

-Robert

Shaw
12-03-2005, 02:31 PM
Awesome man :)

That's sort of depressing for the rest of us though. ;) I still struggling with my script - haven't even begun to embark on the insane casting that's ahead of me. With the holidays on top of everything it's going to be really interesting to see who shows up at my casting session! I'll find a way though - even if I have to grab high school students or something. I ain't missing sci-fest!

Norm Sanders
12-03-2005, 02:43 PM
I know the holidays are a bear for getting this stuff done ... no wonder the film industry pretty much shuts down from Thanksgiving 'till January 1st.

Don't get depressed ... did you ever read some of those posts during the Zombie Fest? One guy was talking about having 100 extras, an 1/3 mile traffic jam, cop cars, guns, etc. I about wanted to drop out on the spot! Talk about sucking the wind out of your sales!

Trust me, we're not going to have the incredible CGI (3D modeling) that some guys will.

We'll only have some quality FX (if it's not quality, it won't be in the film), and a great location I'm jacked about (the 5,500 sqft warehouse), and some eye candy with regards to the antagonist, and a killer music/score composer, and shooting with 2 DVX100's at a time, and incredible depth of field with our 35mm adapters, and a solid character driven script, and pro lighting, and pro audio, and a 12 ft crane, and doll/track and .... :evil:

Shaw
12-03-2005, 03:55 PM
Like I said, I ain't missing sci-fest! If jdanstan can take second with a hurricane mowing down the south the least I can do is finish an entry :)

I'm really looking forward to seeing all these entires - more so than Zombiefest. Sounds like you have a rockin' group!

Ought2bCommitted
12-03-2005, 05:50 PM
I know the holidays are a bear for getting this stuff done ... no wonder the film industry pretty much shuts down from Thanksgiving 'till January 1st.

Don't get depressed ... did you ever read some of those posts during the Zombie Fest? One guy was talking about having 100 extras, an 1/3 mile traffic jam, cop cars, guns, etc. I about wanted to drop out on the spot! Talk about sucking the wind out of your sales!

Trust me, we're not going to have the incredible CGI (3D modeling) that some guys will.

We'll only have some quality FX (if it's not quality, it won't be in the film), and a great location I'm jacked about (the 5,500 sqft warehouse), and some eye candy with regards to the antagonist, and a killer music/score composer, and shooting with 2 DVX100's at a time, and incredible depth of field with our 35mm adapters, and a solid character driven script, and pro lighting, and pro audio, and a 12 ft crane, and doll/track and .... :evil:

Niiiiicccceeeeeeee!!!!!!!

krestofre
12-03-2005, 07:08 PM
Dec 3rd. Sold a chunk of my comic collection to finish the sets. :cry:

Otherwise, we're on track. I've even scheduled some rehersal time which I never thought would have fit into the schedule. One prop needs to ship to me, and one prop need to be built, but otherwise I'm on track. :thumbsup:

Daniel Skubal
12-03-2005, 07:44 PM
Well, I have a basic idea of what I want to do, and plenty of interest from people from around here, I just can't seem to sit down to write a script. My friends who were volunteering to write a script when I told them about the contest, have backed out for multiple reasons...

I have figured out an effect that I wanted to do and taught myself how to do it decently... so we'll see how it all plays out. Even if we don't get a short done in time, I've already learned more than I did on the zombiefest.

Brandon Rice
12-03-2005, 08:07 PM
Dec. 3rd- Cannot get a hold of one of my main actors! Contacted someone who is going to be script supervising/AD. Things are looking up.

Norm Sanders
12-04-2005, 03:20 PM
Dec 3rd. Sold a chunk of my comic collection to finish the sets. :cry:

THAT'S a dedicated film maker!

We also have to have a prop built, unless we can find something else that works. Time's counting down quickly, as we shoot in 5 days.

Avant
12-05-2005, 06:24 AM
That is a dedicated film-maker, I love my comics too, well I've lost them all but I still love 'em.

Looks like I'll be working backwards, starting with the special fx in After Effects. Start shooting in the first week of January due to money. I haven't written anything in years. Making too much noise aka music to some. I'll be cutting the deadline pretty close. Which is the way I like it.

xl70e3
12-06-2005, 12:25 PM
Dec 6th. Finally came up with an idea I really like. Laying down the script and drawing storyboards now. Pheew, almost 2 months still left :cheesy:

crayolamarker
12-06-2005, 07:14 PM
I shot all day sunday. Hopefully Ill shoot all day again next sunday.

Norm Sanders
12-06-2005, 08:20 PM
Stressing out as Friday approaches (first day of shoot). Can't sleep, can't really think of much else than this all consuming film.

SO thankful for partnering up with waltind ... he's a GREAT organizer & planner. So far, we're making an awesome team & have been equally yoked (sharing the load) through the process. The most interesting part, which we're both aware of, is going to be the editing process ... he's on Mac/FCP, I'm on PC/Vegas. That'll be a cool little behind the scenes in itself, seeing how the two programs can work together.

Don't know how all this stuff is coming together, but just had another positive happen today ... I posted an ad in Craig's List for an experienced stunt coordinator that had to come with their own gear ... pro bono (nothing in the budget for it - all money goes towards food, that's it). I even rec'd a nasty e-mail from some anonymous person saying how ameuter I appeared ... a hack wannabe film maker at best ... for posting such a request. Was I even aware of the cost of that kind of equipment (rigging, etc.), and that no professional would ever answer such an ad, etc. You know, just ragging on me.

Well, low & behold I get a response from this guy that's got something called a Raptor Rig that'll throw you up to 20 feet (all safety harnesses, etc.), has a TON of gear that he may be interested in using, etc. Bottom line, we're both local, and he loves to network & never knows what can come out of a situation (love his attitude), so if he's available this Saturday (he's working on a feature film right now & will know tomorrow), sounds like he's on board ... oh yeah, and WITH his gear.

krestofre
12-06-2005, 10:12 PM
sounds like he's on board ... oh yeah, and WITH his gear.

I hate you ... but in a good way. You understand. :laugh:

Norm Sanders
12-06-2005, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I understand. This'll sound like preachy or something, but it's a God thing, it's got to be. I certainly don't deserve all this stuff that's happening, and can't explain why they're all lining up the way they are.

Then again, I'm nervous as all get out, and I could FLOP HARD CORE in front of a bunch of pros ... so a lot's riding on the line with that regard.

waltind's a good guy .... it's probably all just coming together because I brainwashed him into hooking up with me on it. :grin:

CallaghanFilms
12-06-2005, 10:51 PM
Norm

I once saw a "God is my co-pilot" bumper sticker...
But never a "God is my co-producer" one.

Kidding, I'm kidding.

Norm Sanders
12-06-2005, 11:35 PM
LOL! I could consider some kind of producer credit, but then there's the co-production agreements to deal with, etc. :cheesy:

Norm Sanders
12-07-2005, 07:48 PM
Finally secured our caterer ... not a REAL caterer, but a guy I know who owns the local God Father's Pizza restaurants, and is willing to do all the food shopping, handle the craft services table on set, and take care of the hot meals.

Our cost? Just reimbursing his out of pocket costs for food, and shooting his daughter's wedding, whenever that is.

Glad to do it ... I was REALLY starting to sweat it as we begin filming night after tomorrow night, and still didn't have food figured out yet ... which was a HUGE deal since everyone's doing this for free & we've promised to feed them well.

blckhawk542
12-07-2005, 08:04 PM
I havent done anything yet.

Still have the Screenplay and Script sitting on my harddrive.

I checked craigslist to see if anyone would help out with the CG...everyone wants like 300 bucks or more for this!! im like..HSLADFHSADHFA

but neways....it jus freakin snowed..so now im pissed..this sets me back a while now...no shooting until snow is gone..and if it snows one more time over here..im gonna go throw a moltov cocktail into the woods and melt all the snow then start shooting for my firey scene..then get arrested.

Happy shooting!

:beer:

galt
12-07-2005, 11:26 PM
Our cost? Just reimbursing his out of pocket costs for food, and shooting his daughter's wedding, whenever that is.


Tell him I said you are overpaying. He should pay for costs of food, your shooting his daughters wedding is worth at least $900, more if you have ever shot one before. A LOT more than a meal or two of catering.

Norm Sanders
12-08-2005, 12:02 AM
Well I DID correct him on that one. I let him know that I currently bill at $90/hour for my time, which is less than some others do. I clarified that how ever many hours he put into the catering & was manning the craft service table on set, that I would match that with production towards a wedding package ... basically a credit.

Yeah, he's still getting a great deal, but I was desperate & running to the wire ... better he gets a great deal than me disappoint all these folks by not having plenty of food on set.

Brandon Rice
12-08-2005, 09:33 AM
Dec. 8- Two of three shooting days scheduled and confirmed with entire cast and crew. Shooting all exteriors on Dec. 31. All day. (Praying for good weather) And shooting some interiors on Dec. 27, in the evening. Still trying to coordinate time to shoot three scenes with an actor who has scheduling conflicts.

My co-director is also not going to be in LA until Dec. 14. So, we cannot have a rehearsel or do the costumes until then. It's going to be a very hectic time.

Norm Sanders
12-08-2005, 10:11 AM
Rehearsal? Hmm, we've not had table readings, rehearsals, nothing. Haven't even auditioned any of the role except 2 out of the 6 ... just selected the others.

Well, since we're cramming the entire shoot into the next three days, we'll know quickly how it turns out.

Brandon Rice
12-08-2005, 10:38 AM
Yeah. I want to do a table read, and a rehearsal (Some of the film is shot at my home). I didn't really need to audition either. I have people I know who are decent actors who fit the roles perfectly. I actually wrote the script with a specific person in mind to play the lead. (It helps that she's my sister).

Brandon Rice
12-08-2005, 11:53 AM
Whoohoo! Finalized my last shoot day. Then I just need some pick-up shots for a montage. That's it. Now to actually shoot the thing!

Norm Sanders
12-08-2005, 03:01 PM
Finally official ... we have the professional stunt coordinator on board, w/low deferred pay (if we ever make a penny, etc.) ... which is what we're comp'ing everyone with, to be fair.

He's bringing a bunch of his FX gear (guns, big fans for wind, spark explosion stuff for computers to look like they're shorting out, etc.), as well as his stunt stuff (mats, harnesses, wires/pulleys, etc.).

Briceman makes me nervous with the killer script he says he's got, but I'd like to think ours is pretty solid as well to attract the talent we've got coming on board (super stoked about our composer as well). Now it'll all come down to the execution of it all this weekend.

Oy-vey, I'm a nervous wreck ... anxiety's gonna either kill me or push me through this weekend.

dougspice
12-08-2005, 03:39 PM
Times like this, I wish I was anywhere but LA...

Anyway. Got two treatments, both need revisions, and I haven't settled on one or the other yet. One I prefer, but the other is much more produceable, and it's looking like I need to do a lot of PAID work in January...

Brandon Rice
12-08-2005, 04:55 PM
Now it'll all come down to the execution of it all this weekend.

Oy-vey, I'm a nervous wreck ... anxiety's gonna either kill me or push me through this weekend.

Good luck man, and congrats on the stunt dude! Our composer's brother is a stunt man too. He was in my last short (as an actor). Good luck with the shoot this weekend! :thumbup:

Dahopafilms
12-08-2005, 06:06 PM
... not a REAL caterer, but a guy I know who owns the local God Father's Pizza restaurants ...

Our cost? Just ... shooting his daughter's wedding, whenever that is ...

Heeeeey. Waitaminute ...

God Father's Pizza ... his daughter's wedding ...

Your "caterer" doesn't look like Marlon Brando, does he ...?

:shocked:

Brandon Rice
12-08-2005, 06:30 PM
Haha!

krestofre
12-09-2005, 07:19 AM
Sit back and enjoy a nice example of Murphy's Law. :(

So, I've got this huge building that I secured as a psudo sound stage. That's where the sets for my short have been built (or rather are in the process of being built). It's got an old wood-burning stove in it, which was one of the bonus points to this location. It is December after all, and even though we had had unseasonally warm weather, I knew that winter would catch us. Winter caught us yesterday when it suddenly became 3 degrees. It was so cold that the putty my set builder was using on the walls would freeze before he could apply it. No problem, we've got a wood burning stove. So we shove some wood in there, and try to fire it up. Uh-huh. I didn't know wood-burning stoves could break, but apparently they can because this one wouldn't give us anything. So, our heat source is shot.

Eh, I figured something was going to go wrong sooner or later. No problem. I jump on the internet and start researching heating options. I found the perfect propane powered heater, it wasn't too expensive, and Lowes carried it, which is right down the street. Great. I jump in my car, arrive at Lowes, find the heater, walk up to the cash register and set it down. "One of these please," I brazingly declair. "And a tank of propane while you're at it!" The lady smiled at me, and scanned the heater. The computer made a horrific beeping sound and she frowned. This caused me to frown as well.

"I can't sell this to you," she said.

"What? Why not?" I retort, using my sharp wit.

"This item has been recalled and we're not able to sell anymore of them." Augh! You've got to be kidding me. The one heater that was perfect in power and in price and it's been recalled. Now don't get my wrong. I'm greatful to Lowes for trying to keep me from melting my face off, but I've got a set to finish, not to mention actors coming. The footage is going to look really great if you can see the breath of all of the actors.

"Ok," I begin. "Do you know if you have anything comparable?"

"Well," the lady says, "you could go back and check with the guys back there, but we're closing."

"But I'm here" I say, struggling for a comeback. "Can't I just run back there real quick?" I must have reminded her of her son or something, because she let me. I ran back to the heating section, found a Lowes guy and hold him the whole story. He said that there was this other model, but it had a blower on it. "What does that mean?" I ask--realize that I'm not very handy with anything that Lowes carries.

"Well, it means that it will blow the heat out instead of radiate it."

"Uh-huh. And is that loud?"

"Yeah," he says. "You won't be able to hear much."

Sigh. I don't think my shotgun mic is THAT directional. So I leave Lowes depressed and downtrodden. I decide to stop by Wal-Mart. I figure what the heck, I've got nothing left to lose at this point. So I stop, and I see a bunch of crappy heaters. And then an idea comes to me. How many crappy heaters does it take to equal one good heater?

So, sitting in my sound stage, as we speak, is many, many space heaters all blowing and heating their little circuits out trying to take a garage that's currently 1 degee all the way up to 50 degrees. My hopes are not too high that it will work.

The adventures of film making. :laugh:

Chris

Brandon Rice
12-09-2005, 07:53 AM
WOW! What a story. Good luck with the heating.

kimko
12-09-2005, 10:14 AM
I know what YOU mean! I ask (writers) for Die Hard, and all I get is The Ring. then give them the finger ....the right one! heheheheheh

Weston
12-09-2005, 10:51 AM
I love that story! Haha...filmmaking is a never ending adventure. It might kill me someday...

Shaw
12-09-2005, 11:32 AM
At least that would be a cool way to die ;)

krestofre
12-09-2005, 11:35 AM
LOL!

I figure you've got to be able to laugh at stuff like that. Otherwise, this job would kill me. :)

PixelMagic
12-09-2005, 05:36 PM
Speaking of cold temperaters, I'm going to be shooting in 20 degree weather, outside. Will a DVX operate at those temperatures?

Shaw
12-09-2005, 06:33 PM
Yep, sure will :) Just keep your batteries warm and be careful when bringing the camera back into a warm building or car.

krestofre
12-09-2005, 10:30 PM
Update: Well, as I suspected, the space heaters didn't do jack for providing warmth. But the good news is that I had someone come look at the wood burning stove and get it fixed, so we've got heat! Yeah!

So ... anyone want to buy a space heater. I'll give you a really great deal. :thumbsup:

kimko
12-10-2005, 12:47 AM
Update: Well, as I suspected, the space heaters didn't do jack for providing warmth. But the good news is that I had someone come look at the wood burning stove and get it fixed, so we've got heat! Yeah!

So ... anyone want to buy a space heater. I'll give you a really great deal. :thumbsup:i live in LA i'll trade ya some wood for the heater

krestofre
12-10-2005, 07:18 AM
If we were close, I'd take you up on it. I'm in Missouri. Shipping wood is probably expensive. :)

Ralph Oshiro
12-10-2005, 07:32 AM
Zip, zero, nada.

kimko
12-10-2005, 09:50 AM
Then It's Going To Be A Cold Winter

Norm Sanders
12-11-2005, 12:22 AM
Just got finished filming our second day today, with a third FULL (13 1/2 hour) day tomorrow. We've got WAY more shots we'd like to get than time's allowing, but at least we're getting the critical full coverage shots, with some important inserts.

The stunt coordinator has also become a MAJOR asset to on set visual effects with spark explosions, use of his plugged 8mm blank guns, fan(s), rigging, etc. Our antagonist got LAUNCHED at least 15 feet back, catching about 8 feet of air in the process ... awesome.

We're insanely pleased with the Letus35 adapters we've picked up, shooting with Nikon 100mm AI, Canon 50mm FD, and Canon 100-300 zoom FD lenses. Incredible DOF, and nice picture over all.

In the 11th hour we picked up a gal that's the youngest film maker to ever be accepted into the Milan International Film festival with a short she did ... she's our script supervisor / 1st AD ... what a shot clock Nazzi! I've deemed her a necessary evil, as she's not nice about it, but well worth having on set.

Ralph Oshiro
12-11-2005, 02:39 AM
Hmmm . . . still no e-mail from screenwriter who I sent new story idea to.

Ralph Oshiro
12-11-2005, 02:41 AM
Just got finished filming . . . The stunt coordinator has also become a MAJOR asset to on set visual effects with spark explosions, use of his plugged 8mm blank guns, fan(s), rigging, etc. Our antagonist got LAUNCHED at least 15 feet back, catching about 8 feet of air in the process . . .Hmmmm . . . I feel sick.

janzie
12-11-2005, 02:55 PM
cool, nbcshooter, at least i´m not the only one...so far, i have nothing.

has anyone ever worked with/ built puppets?

Brandon Rice
12-11-2005, 03:15 PM
Envision- Dude! I feel very inadequate right now. How I am supposed to compete with this guy! Pro stunt guy, pro props. Lenses! Wow, can't wait to see your film!

macgregor
12-11-2005, 04:41 PM
Hello everyone.
I have flight tickets for tuesday. We will be going to an Island in the Atlantic ocean, where our sci-fi shortfilm will take place. Quite a impressive scenario.

Now, i still don´t know how i am going to take a 6 meters long Jib with me. It comes in light pieces 2 meters long and 15 cm in section. I was thinking to put them inside ski bags, but i guess the guys from the air company will believe I think they are idiots (where i am going is around 25ºC and there are no mountains).

So, does anyone help me with a good idea?

GenJerDan
12-11-2005, 05:59 PM
Envision- Dude! I feel very inadequate right now. How I am supposed to compete with this guy! Pro stunt guy, pro props. Lenses! Wow, can't wait to see your film!

It's all carefully planned. The folks spending ridiculous amounts of money on this are just making the rest of us feel like "why bother?" It cuts down on the competition so we don't have to wade through 80 films again.

Me, I've hired a screenwriter, a cameraman, a sound guy, someone to do the costumes, an editor, and three down-on-their-luck SAG actors.

Yeah, I'm a filmmaker. It says so right on the credits.

David Jimerson
12-11-2005, 06:43 PM
Just remember . . .

(And I don't mean to disparage anyone!)

A lot of money and effects don't make a bad movie good.

If you have a good, well-executed script, it'll show. People who vote in these contests have pretty good filters for differences in budgets. No one's out of the running just because they can't hire pros.

Brandon Rice
12-11-2005, 10:38 PM
Just remember . . .

(And I don't mean to disparage anyone!)

A lot of money and effects don't make a bad movie good.

If you have a good, well-executed script, it'll show. People who vote in these contests have pretty good filters for differences in budgets. No one's out of the running just because they can't hire pros.

I agree. It's the story, and the execution. Decent cinematography, with good acting, and well paced editing, with a dynamite story will win this thing.

Weston
12-12-2005, 12:32 AM
some good music....that adds alot of mood...

Norm Sanders
12-12-2005, 12:33 AM
Trust me, waltind and I don't believe we'll take first, just because the bar's been set SO incredibly high from the Zombie Fest. That said though, we also both know we would not have done nearly as well had we not partnered up together.

I can also say that this production value will smoke ANYTHING I had in DEATHMARCH (even the news cast, which I rec'd a lot of compliments for), mostly because I had a team of people to work with, some of which were pros at what they do. Am I going to pleased with what we have? ... I absolutely know I will, just even based on seeing what we saw on the monitor, let alone when we're done with post.

But again, let me recap on that first opening sentence ... the bar's been set high. I've also heard from Curugon (Sam), who's been very quiet on this thread. He's entering again ... oh, and he's excited about the idea they've got. YIKES! :)

And lastly, I think our total budget on this will be WAY less than $500 hard out of pocket costs (not counting reusable equipment, etc.) ... well over half of which was for food. We've bartered services for locations, and had people just donate their time because it sounded like fun & they liked the story (our full short will be 10-12 minutes - we'll have a 6 minute cut for DVXfest).

So if you're not finished yet (or started), ask, ask, ask. If you don't ask, the answer's already "no", so you have nothing to lose. Check into Craig's List, and you'll be amazed what you can find.

Brandon Rice
12-12-2005, 08:39 AM
Dec. 12- Finally got in touch with a local band. We are going to be using one of their songs for a scene in the movie, and the closing credits. Also started working on some background plates for a shot that I might have to do green screen.

-BR

(Edit: I had the name of the band, but thought it might be perceived as publicity, or promotion of the short)

David Jimerson
12-12-2005, 05:55 PM
Actually, I think a number of posts are verging on publicity.

Norm Sanders
12-12-2005, 06:14 PM
Actually, I think a number of posts are verging on publicity.

David, if no one is listing names of people involved, specific locations, etc., how can it be publicity?

Perhaps this thread shouldn't even be open then, as from what I can see everyone is just giving updates of what's happened, peppered with excitement or remorse about what's worked & what hasn't?

I don't see any publicity here, but perhaps I'm not understanding the definition of it. I thought it was no specifics such as footage, pictures, images, scripts, storylines, etc.

Let me know if you were referring to me, which if so I'll apologize now & just keep stone quiet going forward.

shihan
12-12-2005, 06:42 PM
I am new to the board and even though I will not be entering anything now I plan on starting production in May 2006. I have my screenplay 3/4 complete, locations 100% and am now trying to decide on renting or buying my equipment. I have resigned myself to using Cannon's xl2 (I have a very small budget and a small crew for that matter). I forgot to mention that I have free access to the editing and sound equipment through our local public access station (most offer production programs to the public - check your out). I also have access to P150s but do not like the grainy look of the final product.

Now that I have finished a year of research and three months of writing I feel confident that I will keep my deadline. I have some questions though.

1) Is anyone on this board in Texas?

2) Do any of you have an opinion on the XL2 or cost comparative camera?

3) Have any of you taken advantage of the free screenwriting and production software on the net?

I now use Page2Stage Screenplay software but still use the free production software.

Norm Sanders
12-12-2005, 06:55 PM
2) Do any of you have an opinion on the XL2 or cost comparative camera?

Yes, it's called the Panasonic DVX100a/b (either model).

Brandon Rice
12-12-2005, 11:32 PM
Haha... yep... good camera that DVX. 100th post on this thread!

lucidz
12-13-2005, 12:29 PM
i can't seem to find any motivation to rewrite my script for the last time. it doesn't help that my printer is out of ink and i need to retype it but first get the ink.

sigh

David Jimerson
12-13-2005, 12:44 PM
David, if no one is listing names of people involved, specific locations, etc., how can it be publicity?

Perhaps this thread shouldn't even be open then, as from what I can see everyone is just giving updates of what's happened, peppered with excitement or remorse about what's worked & what hasn't?

I don't see any publicity here, but perhaps I'm not understanding the definition of it. I thought it was no specifics such as footage, pictures, images, scripts, storylines, etc.

Let me know if you were referring to me, which if so I'll apologize now & just keep stone quiet going forward.

I had no one in particular in mind. I was just expressing what my general sense of things is. I'm sure no one is intentionally trying to skirt the rules.

Norm Sanders
12-13-2005, 12:57 PM
Cool, just wanting to make sure I wasn't sticking out like a sore thumb. I'm sure with a thread that's topic is STATUS, it could be easy to have things look like publicity, though they're not intended.

Publicity or not, there will still be the films people will want to see the most (i.e. the previous winners, mods that enter, etc.). Also, if threads are allowed to be established for each film PRIOR to judging being complete, it can also skew things. I'm not convinced that allowing what happened last time (threads being established prior to judging being over) is a good idea, but it's not my choice to make.

Hopefully, with whatever FLASH Jarred's working on, it'll be similar to a Triggerstreet.com process, which seems pretty refined & hard to manipulate.

Brandon Rice
12-13-2005, 01:04 PM
I agree Envision. I am most excited about seeing films from people who's films I enjoyed in the previous competition. There will always be films that have anticipation behind them, which could be a good thing, or it could be a bad thing, with expectations so high.

Weston
12-13-2005, 01:05 PM
Hopefully newcomers won't be ignored though.

Norm Sanders
12-13-2005, 01:33 PM
I don't think they will. The last one had the films come up in a random order. If it's anything like Triggerstreet's process (For the new fest), you have to personally view X amount of films before yours can be viewed, etc ... or something like that. You're also assigned a film as it comes up, and can't download others until you've reviewed the one you were assigned.

Seems like a fair process, so you're forced to give a report on whatever came up for you to watch.

Brandon Rice
12-13-2005, 01:35 PM
Totally fair process!

Brandon Rice
12-13-2005, 01:38 PM
Update on status- Just ordered my tape stock for the short. First production cost. $37.44.
Also, ordered a prop on ebay- $28.97.

Total Budget so far- $66.41

arielman
12-13-2005, 02:57 PM
It would seem everyone is late in shooting..as with I . 3 times we have cancelled and I am glad to say no actors bailed ( re-Zombie no shows ) . I t was either the props never showed , the weather or now Christmas BUT we are attempting to shoot on Boxing Day . If the weather holds up for us that would be great ..if it turns ugly , then we will be finished . I am afraid I do not have time to edit and do what is required while workin 12 hr shifts ..I really hate to miss this one .
I'm hoping Santa brings all of us nice weather .
..Ian

GenJerDan
12-13-2005, 04:12 PM
Totally fair process!

Which is why I dropped Triggerstreet. Went in for screenplays and they wanted me to review x number of films before I could post anything.

I even tried....but the films they assigned me were unreviewable. At least in polite company.

Mark Harris
12-13-2005, 04:16 PM
I actually have most of my shooting done, except for one location. But mine was a sci-fi short I was doing anyway...

Norm Sanders
12-13-2005, 07:10 PM
Which is why I dropped Triggerstreet. Went in for screenplays and they wanted me to review x number of films before I could post anything.

I even tried....but the films they assigned me were unreviewable. At least in polite company.

While it may not be the ideal for a festival (not sure either way), I think it's an awesome approach for a community, so you don't have people that only want feedback on their stuff & aren't willing to take the time out to view others as well. Or at least I believe it works well for them.

It's impossible to please everyone with anything, so there will always be those who love something and others who can't stand it. Same will be true for whatever Jarred figures out for Sci-Fest ... guaranteed no matter what he does there will be those who complain about it.

bena
12-14-2005, 03:36 PM
I bought a can of play dough. How long does it take to stop motion 6 mins of footage.

script! We don't need no stinking script.

David Jimerson
12-14-2005, 04:24 PM
Of course, stop motion would not be eligible for any prizes.

Norm Sanders
12-14-2005, 05:31 PM
Why wouldn't it? I'm confident bena was kidding, but since the DVX100a IS capable of doing it, and if they submitted in 24P, seems like it'd be eligible to me.

David Jimerson
12-14-2005, 06:12 PM
If it were done on the DVX, it would be -- but I would assume that anyone doing stop motion wouldn't do it on the DVX. I certainly wouldn't. Much more trouble than it's worth.

bena
12-14-2005, 08:45 PM
Prizes! We don't need no Stinking Prizes!

I am Gumby Damn It!!!!

Ralph Oshiro
12-14-2005, 10:04 PM
Okay. My writer just told me idea number 2 today (I passed on his first idea). And . . . I liked it! A couple weeks ago, I basically told him, "Look, I want to start with a _________ and a _________, then, here's where all the exciting stuff you write goes . . . and then, it ends with a shot of ____________." I can't believe it, but he actually wrote-to-order. Executing his idea convincingly will of course be a challenge. But at least it has many of the elements I was hoping for.

I may not get a completed script until AFTER the holidays, so I'll really be under the gun on this project. Also, I was hoping to shoot this on an HVX200, but that just may not be realistic. I REALLY don't wanna shoot this on my DVX since I may have some expensive scenes to shoot, and I definitely want that footage on a better camera. So I'll have to borrow some other 24P camera to do that with (my friend just sold his SDX900s). Too bad, since I really wanted that "Best Camerawork" prize for that bitchin' handheld bracket.

Ralph Oshiro
12-14-2005, 10:08 PM
So . . . unlike the last DVXfest, I will at least be going in with a script (my zombie short NEVER had a script--the last scene was "written" and shot the night before the contest deadline).

Brandon Rice
12-15-2005, 12:09 PM
Dec 15- Revised script for hopefully the final time. Have all shooting days scheduled. Now we pray for good weather, and people who will show up! Still trying to get a sound mixer for the film. Everything else is finished!

PixelMagic
12-19-2005, 09:19 PM
Will be shooting January 6th, 7th, and 8th. That leaves about 3 weeks for post-production. Looks like about 15-25 visual effects shots. Hopefully I can get them done in time.

smelni
12-20-2005, 07:23 AM
Finished shooting this past weekend with a bunch of practical special effects and a 35mm adapter. Reviewing the footage and I am pretty pleased.

Hopefully it cuts together well :)

Norm Sanders
12-20-2005, 12:47 PM
What adapter did you use, or was it DIY?

smelni
12-20-2005, 01:03 PM
I used the micro 35 adapter with nikon lenses - it seemed to go very well - and way easier then I anticipated - i expected to be fighting the adapter all day - and i only forgot to turn it on once

Brandon Rice
12-22-2005, 10:56 AM
First shoot is tonight!!! I am as prepared as I'll ever be! Still need to pick up some makeup... And get some bottles of water (For cast/crew). I'm so excited!!!

GenJerDan
12-22-2005, 11:08 AM
First shoot is tonight!!! I am as prepared as I'll ever be! Still need to pick up some makeup... And get some bottles of water (For cast/crew). I'm so excited!!!

Mine is tomorrow or Christmas Eve. Probably the latter. Assuming I get the camera rig built. And my wife doesn't distract me again... :engel017:

Slimothy
12-22-2005, 12:10 PM
Okay. My writer just told me idea number 2 today (I passed on his first idea). And . . . I liked it! A couple weeks ago, I basically told him, "Look, I want to start with a _________ and a _________, then, here's where all the exciting stuff you write goes . . . and then, it ends with a shot of ____________." I can't believe it, but he actually wrote-to-order. Executing his idea convincingly will of course be a challenge. But at least it has many of the elements I was hoping for.

I may not get a completed script until AFTER the holidays, so I'll really be under the gun on this project. Also, I was hoping to shoot this on an HVX200, but that just may not be realistic. I REALLY don't wanna shoot this on my DVX since I may have some expensive scenes to shoot, and I definitely want that footage on a better camera. So I'll have to borrow some other 24P camera to do that with (my friend just sold his SDX900s). Too bad, since I really wanted that "Best Camerawork" prize for that bitchin' handheld bracket.

NBC-If you shot it on the SDX, it wouldn't be eligible for prizes correct?

Brandon Rice
12-23-2005, 12:11 AM
Just finished digitizing my first night shoot. Footage looked OK. Performances were great! Hope I can make it work!

Brandon Rice
12-23-2005, 01:05 AM
Some of my footage had some glitches in it!!! Good thing I had a ton of coverage and three takes of each shot (usually)!

Norm Sanders
12-23-2005, 12:13 PM
When you say glitches, do you mean lost frames during capture? If so, recapture those shots & you may find out they're clean. That's usually the case with me anyway. I had a few lost frames while capturing our footage, but I'd go back & recapture and it was fine.

Was up late editing, and will continue to do so up to Christmas, resuming on the 26th. We're going to reshoot a couple of scenes as day for night for continuity with another scene we shot that way, and the fact that the DVX footage will be a lot less noisey that way.

Brandon Rice
12-23-2005, 01:25 PM
Well... it was like small tiny glitches in the frame, not lost frames. Also, having some audio issues. Sounds like little digital audio glitches when trying to digitize, but when played back on the camera, it sounds fine. Whats up?

GenJerDan
12-23-2005, 04:19 PM
Well... it was like small tiny glitches in the frame, not lost frames. Also, having some audio issues. Sounds like little digital audio glitches when trying to digitize, but when played back on the camera, it sounds fine. Whats up?

It *might* be from the capture..unless the dirty head warning was on while you were filming and you ignored it.

Couldn't hurt to try recapturing to see if they show up again...and in the same place.

If they show up in different places, mix and match. (And turn off EVERYTHING else while capturing and they may not show up at all).

Brandon Rice
12-23-2005, 04:38 PM
Well... the glitches do occur around the time the dirty head warning came on... I finished the take, and cleaned the heads (using a head cleaning tape) fixed it up fine. But, the two takes before the warning came on had some problems.

PixelMagic
12-23-2005, 06:41 PM
Just finished the script about two minutes ago. Yay!

Ralph Oshiro
12-23-2005, 09:15 PM
Well, here I go again. I'm rejecting the script from my writer and going in a different direction. So, again, I'm without a script.

Norm Sanders
12-24-2005, 01:16 AM
You're where I was about 4-5 weeks ago. I could tell by the second draft that the writer we were working with was just not going to benefit our time schedule ... so we canned him, and I just started from scratch myself. It's so much easier when you don't have to depend on someone else.

You know you've got it in you ... just have a brainstorming party with some friends over beer & pizza, and come up with a cool, unique story.

Ralph Oshiro
12-24-2005, 03:14 AM
. . . and I just started from scratch myself. It's so much easier when you don't have to depend on someone else.I HATE depending on someone else! It's soooo much easier to write what you're going to shoot yourself, I know. As both the director and the DP, I know what I can and can't shoot. I know what shots will really pay off that are still easy to get. And I know that shots that are super hard to stage, I just won't constrain myself to, and I just won't write those kinds of things in. Everyone (writers) accuses me of making films "backwards." It's the only way I know how to do it. Assess what you CAN shoot, then write to those constraints!


You know you've got it in you ... just have a brainstorming party with some friends over beer & pizza, and come up with a cool, unique story.I was getting so depressed over this, Envision. Then, holy crap, Envision! I read your post and got all encouraged! I started writing down some storylines from some other movies thinking that might jump start some idea-making process . . .

Then I called my best friend to run them by him (who's also a cameraguy). Then an actual IDEA came out of talking for a few minutes about what made the other movies great. From there I went from ONE idea . . . I said, "What if . . . blah-blah happens and . . ."

And there it was! An actual original (as original as anything gets these days) idea for a sci-fi short! I couldn't believe it! We talked on the phone for maybe 20 more minutes and fleshed out the beginning scene, some of the middle stuff, and the ending! You have no idea what a breakthrough this is for me. I'm a great story editor, but I can't EVER think of the damned story itself. This is a first for me! It's all pretty shootable (since we're both cameraguys, we know what we can shoot and what we can't) and it's all fairly easy to make believeable. I'm off and running, now! I'm going to actually start storyboarding in Storyboard Artist before writing the script (it's easier for me to do it that way).

I can hear voice-over king, Don LaFontaine's movie-trailer voice in my head now . . . "In a world where . . ."

GenJerDan
12-24-2005, 04:11 AM
Everyone (writers) accuses me of making films "backwards." It's the only way I know how to do it. Assess what you CAN shoot, then write to those constraints!


Unless you've got a studio behind you, or a rich uncle, that's how it should be done. Otherwise, the film comes out looking like crap, trying to do things you really can't do on your budget.


You have no idea what a breakthrough this is for me. I'm a great story editor, but I can't EVER think of the damned story itself.

Me, too. Sort of. I can thiknk of the story, though. I just can't write it. But if someone ELSE does, I can go in and punch it up.

That's how I spent most of my theaterical formative years...whispering in the ears of writer, directors, scenic designers..."why not try it this way...."

Norm Sanders
12-24-2005, 05:17 AM
Glad I could help and be of some inspiration, NBC. Now, if you kick the crap out of us in the fest, I'll be kicking myself later, but for now I feel good about being of assistance! :)

Ralph Oshiro
12-24-2005, 05:40 AM
Glad I could help and be of some inspiration, NBC.Thanks, Envision! You were! Well, I lied, I am actually writing an ACTUAL script in Final Draft right at the moment . . . (but I also have Storyboard Artist open in another window). This is actually fun!

Ralph Oshiro
12-24-2005, 09:33 AM
Stayed up all night and wrote FOUR PAGES so far! Also downloaded an ITC typeface (online from Linotype for $22) for a logo I'll need for the short. My logo mock-up looks perfect with the real font!

I've purchased a million versions of Final Draft plus a ton of other script-crafting tools over the years. This is the first actual script that I've written that's actually been longer than the "opening shot." It's fun writing what you know you can actually shoot.

I had MTV on while writing and saw The Veronicas' musicvideo. HOLY SH!T THEY'RE HOT--hot brunette identical twins, my favorite!

http://www.theveronicas.com/indexflash.html

I love brunettes!

Brandon Rice
12-24-2005, 11:47 AM
Way to go!

Mark Harris
12-24-2005, 11:56 AM
...I've purchased a million versions of Final Draft plus a ton of other script-crafting tools over the years. This is the first actual script that I've written that's actually been longer than the "opening shot." It's fun writing what you know you can actually shoot.

You hit it on the head. I decided last year only to write things I can actually shoot. Make all the difference in the world to have an actual goal to shoot for.

Ralph Oshiro
12-24-2005, 12:07 PM
You hit it on the head. I decided last year only to write things I can actually shoot. Make all the difference in the world to have an actual goal to shoot for.Well, thanks. That's TWO filmmakers on ths board in agreement with me now. Every time I tell my writer that, he looks at me like I'm crazy. Aww, f*ck him anyway. All his stuff was way too frickkin' Twilight Zoney anyway.

Ralph Oshiro
12-24-2005, 12:10 PM
Now that I have a story and 2/3rds of a script done, I'm headed for real trouble as we march into January. I have a huge show (Golden Globes one-on-one room) I have to light for right in the middle of January. We'll do a two-day, pre-light over the weekend before the 16th, plus a whole day just to load in. We hang 75-100 units and this show always kills me with all the prep and worrying and everything. That means I'll only have two weekends to shoot and one weekend to post. I have lots of pick-ups and several locations. This is gonna be goddamned tight.

Plus I gotta deal with some major girlfreind issues (lotta drama). Plus drive a car out to my ex-girlfriend who now lives 3 million miles from L.A. On top of that, it's now Xmas eve and I haven't bought one goddamned present. Oh wait, I did buy my girlfriend a black Yamaha electric bass last Friday. But I haven't done a goddamned thing since being off work last Friday except be depressed about my script (the one I rejected). At least I'm happy and excited now about my new story idea. It's still gonna be goddamned tight, though. I'm sure glad this forum is here so I can whine about all my stupid crap. Get ready for some major whining come January . . .

GenJerDan
12-24-2005, 02:34 PM
Oh wait, I did buy my girlfriend a black Yamaha electric bass last Friday. . . .

This is the cute-as-a-bug girlfriend? Oh, man. Her with a big black bass deserves a photo.

Brandon Rice
12-24-2005, 03:36 PM
Wow... lots of drama NBCShooter. Well, here's my status. Finished our first shoot on Thursday night. Footage turned out pretty good. The Performances were excellent! Finished editing the three scenes last night. Now working on audio editing, and my SFX shot. Next shoot is Tuesday night. Then finally finishing on Saturday, the 31st. Oh, also changed the set for the finale scene! Had an opportunity arise to shoot in a much more high production value place. Merry Christmas everyone!

Mark Harris
12-24-2005, 04:10 PM
Well, thanks. That's TWO filmmakers on ths board in agreement with me now. Every time I tell my writer that, he looks at me like I'm crazy. Aww, f*ck him anyway. All his stuff was way too frickkin' Twilight Zoney anyway.

Well, I guess it's just different goals. Personally, I don't want to write somthing and then sit around for the next five years, hoping someone buys it. It's much more fun to write something with an eye on actually seeing it made.

Status: Same as I was two weeks ago. Most of my sci-fi short is shot, except for one scene. I have to wait till after the holidays to get that, as everyone is out of town. Then it's into post!

Ralph Oshiro
12-25-2005, 12:39 AM
This is the cute-as-a-bug girlfriend? Oh, man. Her with a big black bass deserves a photo.Yup, that's the one. She flew home for Xmas, so it'll be a cool surprise when she gets back. I can't wait to see her face when she opens it.

Ralph Oshiro
12-25-2005, 12:40 AM
Wow... lots of drama NBCShooter.You have no idea . . .

Ralph Oshiro
12-25-2005, 12:44 AM
Well, I guess it's just different goals. Personally, I don't want to write somthing and then sit around for the next five years, hoping someone buys it. It's much more fun to write something with an eye on actually seeing it made.EXACTLY. I make decent money at NBC, so I'm not waiting for anybody to "greenlight" my projects. My only problem has been script. Searching for story that's actually shootable without $100 million or the best actors in the world.

Ralph Oshiro
12-25-2005, 08:26 AM
Wrote all night again. Fleshed out six pages--all shootable.

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 12:27 AM
awesome you'll be leathal with a script this time :)

I finally whittled 15 pages down to 6 a couple of nights ago - hope I can pull this thing off.

The only thing that sucks about this contest is that I'd love to show someone on here my storyboards or my script or my green screen experiements but can't cause of the no promo rule :( (good rule but want my cake and to eat it too)

Brandon Rice
12-26-2005, 12:44 AM
I hear ya man.

Slimothy
12-26-2005, 01:44 AM
Finally finishing a script. Finally. Getting actors/crew lined up right now.

Ralph Oshiro
12-26-2005, 07:45 AM
awesome you'll be lethal with a script this time . . . I finally whittled 15 pages down to 6 a couple of nights ago - hope I can pull this thing off.Thanks, that's quite a compliment coming from you. I'm certainly excited to see your short for this one--I'm afraid to see what you can pull off WITHOUT a category 5 hurricane in tow. If I pull mine off, it will be a goddamned miracle. I gotta dump one girlfriend, move her crap outta my apartment, avoid any fatal stab wounds, get another girlfriend back, light the goddamned Golden Globes, get my brakes fixed and get my tires fixed on MY car, then fix whatever's wrong with my ex-girlfriend's car and drive it four million miles to her house, blah, blah, blah . . .

Plus, I can't shoot frame one on my short yet, since I don't have my camera yet.

GenJerDan
12-26-2005, 07:49 AM
Take notes. There will be another contest coming up, right? You've got the story right there. :)

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 08:04 AM
...I'm afraid to see what you can pull off WITHOUT a category 5 hurricane in tow.
Well it's actually much harder now -- for shed I had shot all the stuff with the guy in the Shed before the hurricane, so I just had to pick up the Mom Daughter stuff in Texas.

But for this one I'm living in a post Katrina New Orleans which means good luck finding an open thrifstore for costumes and you can forget about buying a generator so you can shoot in a flooded still powerless part of town because if you can even find one the stores have trippled their prices.

Also you've been talking about writing for what can be accomplished. And this is exactly what I did for Shed. I had just done a Thriller for a 72 hour contest and it was gragantuan, so for Shed I was like - what's the smallest Idea I can think of that's a good story. Hmm...one guy in a shed -- the Castaway of Zombie movies - perfect. but for this thing I have several locations, a whole new world mythology, 5 characters, dialogue (gasp), a fight scene, a car scene, intensive makeup needs, and special effects --- frickin' crazy!!!!!


If I pull mine off, it will be a goddamned miracle. I gotta dump one girlfriend, move her crap outta my apartment, avoid any fatal stab wounds, get another girlfriend back, light the goddamned Golden Globes, get my brakes fixed and get my tires fixed on MY car, then fix whatever's wrong with my ex-girlfriend's car and drive it four million miles to her house, blah, blah, blah . . .

At times like this is best to take Buddy Hackett's advice and remind yourself of the conjoined twin whose brother is gay and whose boyfriend is coming over in ten minutes to have sex ... and the brothers share the same poo hole :beer: then I don't feel so bad :cheesy:

(nothing against gayness -- just that it would suck to have to take unothorized deliveries in that area on a regular basis, regardless of your orientation :) )

Ralph Oshiro
12-26-2005, 08:17 AM
. . . but for this thing I have several locations, a whole new world mythology, 5 characters, dialogue (gasp), a fight scene, a car scene, intensive makeup needs, and special effects --- frickin' crazy!!!!!Oh, great! With all you and Envision have going on, I'm gettin' pretty f*ckin' scared now. But that's what makes this contest fun--all that FEAR!!!

Ralph Oshiro
12-26-2005, 08:33 AM
nothing against gayness -- just that it would suck . . .Heh heh.

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 08:49 AM
yo yo yo NBC chick checky chizzeck your PM inbox, for real yo

nah I sayin'?

y'erd me

nah I sayin'?

Slimothy
12-26-2005, 10:13 AM
Thanks, that's quite a compliment coming from you. I'm certainly excited to see your short for this one--I'm afraid to see what you can pull off WITHOUT a category 5 hurricane in tow. If I pull mine off, it will be a goddamned miracle. I gotta dump one girlfriend, move her crap outta my apartment, avoid any fatal stab wounds, get another girlfriend back, light the goddamned Golden Globes, get my brakes fixed and get my tires fixed on MY car, then fix whatever's wrong with my ex-girlfriend's car and drive it four million miles to her house, blah, blah, blah . . .

Plus, I can't shoot frame one on my short yet, since I don't have my camera yet.
LOL-NBC you have more girlfriend problems than anyone I've ever met. Especially around dvxuser film festival time.

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 10:17 AM
he should pick the one that won't freak when shown eating a potatoe chip in BTS footage :evil:

Brandon Rice
12-26-2005, 10:23 AM
Wow... this thread has turned into a girlfriend issues thread. LOL

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 10:37 AM
..Plus, I can't shoot frame one on my short yet, since I don't have my camera yet.
Dude

I saw you sold your DVX -- please tell me you are not waiting for an HVX ... even if you could shoot and edit in a day I think you'd be outta luck for this contest :shocked:

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 01:11 PM
Wow... this thread has turned into a girlfriend issues thread. LOL
well few other outside forces can affect the status of your shoot so greatly, eitther adversely or positivly like GF issues can :cheesy:, especially when you are the production manager, writer, DP, director, editor, etc.

when they are bringing you sandwiches on set because they believe in you and support your work then nothing is finer or gives more of a pick me up :thumbup: When you have to deal with 2 - 6 hours of drama after a 12-15 hour shoot before you do it all again the next day, well then nothing is more draining :thumbdown

ZombieSquid
12-26-2005, 01:23 PM
Hey Everybody! I might be in for the SciFi Fest, I think I've got an idea....Good luck to all of you!

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 01:26 PM
Hey Everybody! I might be in for the SciFi Fest, I think I've got an idea....Good luck to all of you!
cool -- goodluck :thumbsup:

Jarred Land
12-26-2005, 08:15 PM
would love to see what you come up with squid..

Brandon Rice
12-26-2005, 08:54 PM
good luck squid!:thumbsup:

Ralph Oshiro
12-26-2005, 08:59 PM
Dude

I saw you sold your DVX -- please tell me you are not waiting for an HVX . . .No, I was TRYING to sell it. I couldn't find a local buyer so it's still sitting in my room. I was waiting for the HVX, but I knew that I probably wouldn't get it in time. I'm trying to get my friend to buy me the DSR450.

Brandon Rice
12-26-2005, 09:02 PM
Use the DVX NBCShooter!



Status Report: 2nd shoot is tomorrow night. We will be shooting the entire "wraparound". Working with a really good actor, who happens to be my boss. Excited about it!

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-26-2005, 10:00 PM
He sold it I think!

Brandon Rice
12-26-2005, 10:52 PM
No, I was TRYING to sell it. I couldn't find a local buyer so it's still sitting in my room.

No, he didn't sell it yet.

profnoxin
12-27-2005, 02:04 AM
Whew...

Shooting is complete! Did L.A. scenes, and St. Louis scenes... 5 locations in two states in three days... BrianV is finished capturing and is editing now, with color correction, sound, and Brian moving halfway across the U.S. to my backdoor in L.A. before the deadline. Still a long way off, but I can smell the finish line.

Good luck all,

Brandon Rice
12-27-2005, 08:52 AM
Congrats on finishing! Wow, locations in two states, that's awesome!

Ralph Oshiro
12-27-2005, 10:08 AM
Use the DVX NBCShooter!Yeah, I might have to use my DVX. Shot some tests with my DVX Xmas morning and I'm pretty happy with how they look. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the time to do the short I've just written--I really like it, so I wanna do it right. Too bad, since it fits the sci-fi genre so perfectly. I've gotta think of something else that I can do in just a weekend, given my impending January month of hell.

Brandon Rice
12-27-2005, 01:26 PM
News flash! I need someone's help on a visual effect I'm doing. It's killin' me right now!!! It's a simple effect (I think). Anyone willing to check it out? Thanks in advance!

Beat Takeshi
12-27-2005, 01:44 PM
The original idea that we had has grown into something bigger so we are not going to submit as a team this time around so we can develope the story and plan better. I started something small just to have something but its going to be home movie I think. Maybe I will be able to pull something out of my butt that wont be so bad.

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-27-2005, 04:30 PM
News flash! I need someone's help on a visual effect I'm doing. It's killin' me right now!!! It's a simple effect (I think). Anyone willing to check it out? Thanks in advance!
If it's compositing I might be able to help -- if it's CG there's no way, though.

GenJerDan
12-27-2005, 04:35 PM
Maybe I will be able to pull something out of my butt that wont be so bad.

Invasion of the Alien Tapeworms?


Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew...

Brandon Rice
12-28-2005, 01:24 AM
Finished up shoot night #2. Everything turned out wonderful! Very pleased. Final shoot is on Saturday.

Beat Takeshi
12-28-2005, 08:17 AM
Invasion of the Alien Tapeworms?


Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew...

hahaha, thats just anal... Butt now that you mention it, i think theres a story there.

Curugon
12-29-2005, 12:18 AM
Congrats on your progress everyone! I absolutely can't wait to see your films.

I'm caught up 110% on a feature right now and can't participate in the sci-fest, but I highly look forward to seeing what you come up with. My socks are ready to be knocked off.

Norm Sanders
12-29-2005, 12:49 AM
Whew! That's one down. :evil: Kidding, Sam. Kind of. :beer:

Would have been great to see what you could have come up with, but at least I know we'll be one notch closer to the top. Take that as the sincerest compliment.

Jack (jdanstan) doesn't know it, but I'm secretly trying to sabotage his film ... just hope he doesn't read this post and find out.

Brandon Rice
12-29-2005, 01:28 AM
80% of the film should be completely finished editing picture tomorrow. Still have to shoot a few last scenes, and mix audio, and score. Hardest part is just beginning!

Jack Daniel Stanley
12-29-2005, 02:18 AM
lol, Norm,

I was about to type the exact same response to Sam's post :cheesy:

(the "whew" part, not the secretly sabotaging Jack's film since ... well ... that's me ...)

kimko
12-29-2005, 02:44 AM
geesh my guy's are going in last min. i'll be in 2 sci-fi

Norm Sanders
12-29-2005, 02:56 AM
Ugh. We're getting our last pick-up shots (reshooting interior truck scenes as day-for-night) this Saturday. I'm a little behind schedule with the editing, primarily from trying to balance family and this hectic holiday season ... but I knew it'd be a struggle ... just didn't think it would be THIS much.

Hoping to have a locked edit by next Mon/Tues.

I'm dying here tonight, as there are a few key shots I was hoping we'd gotten, but I was so busy being in front of the camera as well, that the missed shots went unnoticed (waltind had his hands full as well). So, I'm doing my best to composite a clip here & a clip there together to get the effect I want. When it's done, if it's not convincing, I'll yank 'em.

Brandon Rice
12-29-2005, 09:23 AM
I feel your pain Norm. It's always a bummer not getting everything you need. I am feeling the pressure too. I leave in a week for a vacation to Florida, and I have 4 actor's schedule's to juggle to finish this short.

Norm Sanders
12-29-2005, 11:00 AM
I juggled around talent for the Zombie Fest. Never again. It went so much more smoothly casting the talent this time based on who could make OUR schedule. Plus, friends tend to be less flexible vs. talent that WANTS this for their reel/resume.

Brandon Rice
12-29-2005, 11:04 AM
Yeah. I hear you. All of the friends that I've cast are very good actors, and I know what to expect from them. I was wary to cast outsiders for this, and not get what I had hoped for.

krestofre
12-29-2005, 12:42 PM
Dec 29 - Learned I HATE rotoscoping. :(

ZombieSquid
12-29-2005, 01:12 PM
Dec 29- Seriously considered coming up with a script of some sort.

PixelMagic
12-29-2005, 01:50 PM
Dec 29 - CGI Aliens complete. CGI UFO will be completed within a weeks time. Rough Draft of Script Complete. Render Farm set up for CGI shots. Principle Photography January 6th, 7th, and 8th.

Brandon Rice
12-29-2005, 02:20 PM
Dec 29 - CGI Aliens complete. CGI UFO will be completed within a weeks time. Rough Draft of Script Complete. Render Farm set up for CGI shots. Principle Photography January 6th, 7th, and 8th.

Um.... WOW!

Larry Rutledge
12-29-2005, 02:43 PM
Render Farm set up...

Is that fancy talk for saying that you have a corn field all set up to film your crop circle shots? :grin:

PixelMagic
12-29-2005, 05:22 PM
No, it's fancy talk for 5 PCs and one notebook computer set up to render on a network. It's not an official render farm, my friend just has a few PCs ranging from 2.5 GHz to 3.2 GHz. He he. There are about 15-20 visual effects shots, and I have 3 weeks to do them. Yikes.

Brandon Rice
12-29-2005, 05:23 PM
No, it's fancy talk for 5 PCs and one notebook computer set up to render on a network. It's not an official render farm, my friend just has a few PCs ranging from 2.5 GHz to 3.2 GHz. He he. There are about 15-20 visual effects shots, and I have 3 weeks to do them. Yikes.

Dude... is there an effect's prize? Cause... it sure sounds like you're going all out with the effects...

PixelMagic
12-29-2005, 05:27 PM
Well, my main field of study in school is visual effects. I'm going to college to be a visual effects compositor. Filmmaking is my secondary passion. So hopefully, my filmmaking won't be crap, but it probably won't be as good as some others.

Brandon Rice
12-29-2005, 05:32 PM
Well.... good luck! :thumbsup:

Brandon Rice
12-30-2005, 01:16 AM
OK! Finally. I have everything scheduled. Saturday is my major shoot day. Hope to finish all but the last short scene. Scheduled the final final shoot for Monday night. Finished editing everything I've shot so far. Started color grading, and mixing audio.

Norm Sanders
12-30-2005, 01:42 AM
You must be a BLAZING fast editor ... or I've got too many camera angles to work with! I'm HOPING to finish our final scene here in the next hour or two, but then still have our pick up shots this Saturday. Even after our locked edit, then we've got Photozoom Pro to deal with (uprezzing our footage), CC, FX, additional SFX, looping/ADR, etc.

Fun, fun, fun.

Ralph Oshiro
12-30-2005, 07:21 AM
Dec 29 - CGI Aliens complete. CGI UFO will be completed within a weeks time. Rough Draft of Script Complete. Render Farm set up for CGI shots. Principle Photography January 6th, 7th, and 8th.I feel sick again . . .

smelni
12-30-2005, 08:16 AM
just keep telling yourself that its all about story :)

Brandon Rice
12-30-2005, 09:24 AM
You must be a BLAZING fast editor ... or I've got too many camera angles to work with!

Well...editing is my first love, and what I started in three years ago. We did shoot a lot of coverage, but I usually knew what I wanted to use before I even digitized the footage. Good luck with your short man!

Shaw
12-30-2005, 09:58 AM
just keep telling yourself that its all about story

What are you talking about? This is SCI-FI! ;) =D

ZombieSquid
12-30-2005, 05:25 PM
All set to start shooting Wednesday. Anybody got a count so far of how many people have proclaimed their intent to submit? I don't think it'll be nearly as heavy as Zombiefest.

Brandon Rice
12-31-2005, 01:00 AM
Shooting exteriors tomorrow... hope it doesn't rain!!!

Norm Sanders
12-31-2005, 01:43 AM
Yeah, weather's fighting us at the moment as well with a INT/EXT car scene we need to shoot. Worse case scenario is we shoot the INT of the car scene parked in a garage ... since it's mostly CU shots, should work fine with some tuning in post.