ZombieFest DVD Box Set ... ?

[Dahopafilms]

OK - so Halloween's a-coming. And I really feel like a need a Zombie fix.

Any word on when the fantabulous ZombieFest DVD box set will be available?

Pleeeease?

[Jarred Land]

Oct. 31st

[Norm Sanders]

No way to actually have these in hand by then is there? It'd be great to watch them that night, but I'm assuming at best they'll just be available for ordering.

[Jeremy Ordan]

That's awesome Jarred! Thank you for your hard work in getting this put together. I think that the DVD's are one of the best parts of these festivals, just being able to sit down at the TV (rather than computer) and watch all these films is priceless in a mastercard way. Can't wait to order one!

[Dahopafilms]

Oct. 31st

Excellent! Thanks!

[disjecta]

How many DVDs did it require to accomodate all of the films and the bts? Do you have pricing, blah blah?

[Arcburn]

Can you buy a DVD even if you didnt enter the comp?

[Norm Sanders]

Yes. Of that, at least, I'm certain ... at least it makes sense from a business standpoint, especially with how much coin Jarred's had to put out of pocket for server bandwidth, making the DVD's, free T-Shirt give-aways to entries, etc. Offering them up for sale to as many people who want them, will help to offset all the expenses associated with this.

[Jarred Land]

Of course.. the dvd's will be for sale to everyone, for about $20 for the 4 disk set. The goal is to recoupe my expenses for everything, since there was no entry fees for the fest.

[Jeremy Ordan]

$20 is an awesome price when you think about everything that you get for it. 4 disc's is incredible to begin with, and let's face it, I'd much rather have the zombiefest on DVD than duplicating my copy of 'Ernest goes to Jail'.

This is great, I'm really excited to order a copy!

[Norm Sanders]

Ditto. I'm actually surprised it can fit on 4 discs, considering all the BTS. Great price.

[Arcburn]

Sounds like a bargain. I will be getting one.

[khmuse]

Anyway of finding out which films made it in time for the DVD set? I had a number of issues with the FTP process and though that everything was OK until the last day when I received an email telling me of the problem. Anyway, I was on location and didn't have access with enough speed to resend so I had my office try and do it for me. Never did find out if it arrived in time (had them mail as well, but it would have arrived a day too late).

I'll buy a set either way, but kinda curious what films will be included.

[Jarred Land]

Ditto. I'm actually surprised it can fit on 4 discs, considering all the BTS. Great price.

Yeah, well the fact some files just didnt work or people didnt send them in, we go them down to 55 films, with about an hour of special features. Still though, its alot of hours of content.

[Jarred Land]

Anyway of finding out which films made it in time for the DVD set? I had a number of issues with the FTP process and though that everything was OK until the last day when I received an email telling me of the problem. Anyway, I was on location and didn't have access with enough speed to resend so I had my office try and do it for me. Never did find out if it arrived in time (had them mail as well, but it would have arrived a day too late). I'll buy a set either way, but kinda curious what films will be included.


good idea.. I will get barry to look at the DVD and list the ones that made it.

[Chris Messineo]

Just curious, what bonus features are on the disc?

Chris

[Daniel Skubal]

good idea.. I will get barry to look at the DVD and list the ones that made it.


*crosses fingers for mine*

[Jarred Land]

Just curious, what bonus features are on the disc?

Chris

wait a couple days and you'll know.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Just curious, what bonus features are on the disc?

Chris
For Shed I have
1) 8 minute making of
2) a commentary over the course of the movie with split screen color correction on one side and and raw footage on the other -- actually the split screen wipes back and forth

I'm pretty sure both of those made it on there, but I provided an easter egg which I have no idea if Jarred had any interest or time in putting it on the DVD/hiding it, but its a silly 45 second long thing anyway.

We'll have to start a thread to correct all of the technical innacuracies in my commentary though!

I can't wait for the official release though and to hear what the other BTS are :thumbsup:

[Barry_S]

That's nice BTS stuff, Jack. Also, a very nice BTS for Texas Fortune, plus lots of other good stuff. Watching the DVD is like seeing the films for the first time. I was impressed with how good some of the films look and the quality of certain soundtracks. In some ways, I think it would be much better to skip the online part and just issue a DVD that everyones votes on. Between bad web compression and the tiny size of the image, online viewing leaves a lot to be desired.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

hmmm ... sounds like a release is imminent ...

[Jarred Land]

yeah thats a pretty good idea.. but im working on something that should improve the whole online viewing thing.

The extra impressed the hell out of me as well.. good solid pro stuff. Some of the extras make the DVD worth it alone.

[Daniel Skubal]

It'd be awesome if there were a standardized compressor that we run our dv mov's or dv avi's through to create a standard compression for everyone. It'd be possible, but quite a hassle to program and piece together, unless you're really well-knowledgable with programming.

[Slimothy]

So any prospective date the dvd will be ready?

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

imminent is its release, young padawan. have patience you must :)

[Jarred Land]

It'd be awesome if there were a standardized compressor that we run our dv mov's or dv avi's through to create a standard compression for everyone. It'd be possible, but quite a hassle to program and piece together, unless you're really well-knowledgable with programming.

its called flash.. and thats what will be behind the sci-fest.

[Jarred Land]

So any prospective date the dvd will be ready?

disks 1 and 2 and 3 are done duplicated and printed and sitting in front of me, I just gotta get #4's bugs squashed and we are ready for action :)

I ended up just dropping the movies with bad cadence/pulldown/dropouts instead of fixing them.. me trying to wait for people to upload the fixed versions was just causing too much of a delay.

So there are 50 films in total, the top 50, but not as per our rated list we posted a few weeks ago, but the top 50 that also sent a sucessful dvd.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

four disk set woohooo!!!!!!

here's a suggestion -- release the 3 disk set now and then at Christmas release the Platinum Edition and charge us $40 bucks for the 4 disk set just like the studios he-he!

[Jarred Land]

ha ha.. yeah thats starting to piss me off the way hollywood is doing that. Im still waiting for the real sin city to come out.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

ha ha.. yeah thats starting to piss me off the way hollywood is doing that. Im still waiting for the real sin city to come out.
yeah I couldn't believe the lack of specials on that as Rodriguez is known for such
knew right away I'd been had

[ZombieSquid]

m still waiting for the real sin city to come out.

I heard that! I'm a big Rodriguez fan so I was really let down when they released it. I popped it in the DVD player and thought that maybe I had rented a really well made bootleg.

[Ought2bCommitted]

I like when a director/producer says in an interview all the cool stuff they're doing for the DVD and then when it comes out....nothing but a trailer.... then miraculously a few months later, edition number 2 comes out....then the 10 year anniversary edition...then 20....25....

I hate them all...........

-Robert

[J.R. Hudson]

Yes; definately whores. All of them.

[Chris Messineo]

The bonus stuff so far sounds great.

I am eager to order my set.

Chris

[ZombieSquid]

I hope my BTS made it onto the disc. If there are two hours of bonus materials, then my BTS feature will comprise a full 1/6th of that total time...Sweet! I think we spent more time on the BTS than the actual short.

[Jarred Land]

Yes.. your BTS made it.. 20 minutes of love. You sent em on DVD+RW and for some reason it really threw the mac for a looopy doop.. Thak god for PC's. I almost gave up on it.. wierd cycle redundancy errors that i never have seen before.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Cuz macs are always Negative CD-R, DVD-R, CD-RW, DVD-RW, etc . :)

[Jarred Land]

actually you got that backwards the new imacs with superdrives are only DVD+R.. but play record DVD+-RW. The G5 superdrives are dual +/- across the board. Mine was a DVD+/-R drive as well.

But.. DVD-R is king in my books.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

woa I got my powerbook in May, those new Imacs are super new - maybe hence the format issues

[Jarred Land]

i had a G5 from last month.. same dealio :)

[Slimothy]

Jarred, did Barry ever post that list w/ the names of those who made it on the dvd?

[ZombieSquid]

YES! I'M IN! ...And I absolutely did NOT send a DVD+RW. It was a DVD+R. That's the only type I'll even allow in my house. If you can find a single RW disc in here, I'll eat the whole damn thing.

[Jarred Land]

ha ha.. it coulda been a +R.. but the disc says RW, go figure.. I dont use Sony media but give it to sony to also put +R on there. Not to confuse anyone of course. At any rate, whatever it was it didnt like it very much :)

[ZombieSquid]

Woah. That's strange. I've never even noticed. Friggin Sony.

[Jarred Land]

thats cool... the stickers made up for all the problems :)

[greg121]

If you can find a single RW disc in here, I'll eat the whole damn thing.

Taste like chicken? :beer:

[khmuse]

Jarred, did Barry ever post that list w/ the names of those who made it on the dvd?

Same question here. Is there a list anywhere?

[Jarred Land]

Same question here. Is there a list anywhere?

ill try to get it put up today.. we lost Barry this week to exterior forces so im rocking it solo, and its not rocking very fast.

[ZombieSquid]

thats cool... the stickers made up for all the problems :)

Everybody likes stickers. They're my universal bargaining tool.

[Jarred Land]

alright kids.. the DVD is done, boxed and ready to go.. I just gotta make the order page.

if you wanna see who made it on the dvd, i put up screenshots of the menus here:

http://zombiefest.com/dvd/

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

awesome ... and an HVX200 preview schweet!

[Jarred Land]

love the new avatar lol.

[Chris Messineo]

Jarred,

The menus look awesome. I can't wait to order mine.

Chris

p.s. jdanstan, you're avatar is very Tim Burtonesque.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

love the new avatar lol.
he he, betcher glad I changed it :thumbsup:

[Brandon Rice]

How much is it going to be?

[Jarred Land]

$19.99.. and sorry again for the delay... i had to zip out to LA but i will be back wed to get things rolling.

[Bischofftep]

Well... just viewed the website showing the sample menus, and discovered to my dismay that our film "Road to Hell" didn't make it.

Jarred, I don't recall getting any messages from you describing technical difficulties. I would very much like to know what happened that we weren't included.

[Ought2bCommitted]

Well... just viewed the website showing the sample menus, and discovered to my dismay that our film "Road to Hell" didn't make it.

Jarred, I don't recall getting any messages from you describing technical difficulties. I would very much like to know what happened that we weren't included.

Yeah, I was kind of surprised as well. Oh well.

I know Jarred said somewhere else it was going to get crazy getting in touch with everyone who's movies he had problems with.

Sucks.

Saves me 20 bucks though.

[Norm Sanders]

I think with the BTS & everything else on there (seeing the winning films on higher definition than web, etc.) will make the purchase worth it anyway. I know I didn't make it on there, but I guarantee I'll be watching the four disk set as soon as it's available to purchase!

[Ought2bCommitted]

I think with the BTS & everything else on there (seeing the winning films on higher definition than web, etc.) will make the purchase worth it anyway. I know I didn't make it on there, but I guarantee I'll be watching the four disk set as soon as it's available to purchase!

Those weren't the ones I was interested in watching again. LOL. :thumbsup:

Some of the ones I did want to see in a better format aren't on there, and for just a few films who have added content I am interested in seeing, it's not a smart purchase for me right now...even if mine was one there...that just solidifies it.

-R

[arielman]

What a shame that so many never made it to the DVD .

As you said Robert there is a few I would've like to see again , especially on T.V .( No Compression issues and all )
maybe some of the ones who didn't make could always trade DVDs .. just a thought .
I think Jarred mentioned somewhere about a bootleg style DVD for the ones that didn't make it .

I did keep many of those clips onto my desk top for viewing...........Ian

[Jarred Land]

yeah sorry guys.. we tried to get em all on there.. but putting out a 6 disk disk woulda been way too expensive. Honestly though, some of the behind the scenes and making of videos are worth the price alone.. some nice camera trick tips and lighting tricks.

[Daniel Skubal]

I'm making my dvd now with interactive menus and stuff. Teaching myself as I go along.

[Rasquachemedia]

I look forward to the dvd set. Jarred, thnx for the low price tag.

[greg121]

alright kids.. the DVD is done, boxed and ready to go.. I just gotta make the order page.


Where is the order page?

[Slimothy]

I don't believe it is up yet.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Yeah not up yet. Betcha there will be a big 'ol banner like for Barry Greens 10K video or HVX, etc. when it is though.

[greg121]

thanks, I don't want to miss out.

[Jarred Land]

http://zombiefest.com/

Sorry it took so long :(

you can order right off this post below:

http://www.zombiefest.com/eric_1a.swf

[J.R. Hudson]

Holy shit; I'm impressed

WOW!

[Jarred Land]

Holy shit; I'm impressed

WOW!

ya ya John.. i know its 2 weeks overdue but i had to leave the country for a week.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Holy shit; I'm impressed

WOW!
he he ... wait til you see 'em Dude.

I beta tested --
(a great two days ... whew!)
here's my review
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?p=348406#post348406

[Bischofftep]

I know Jarred said somewhere else it was going to get crazy getting in touch with everyone who's movies he had problems with.

It wouldn't bother me except that there's been no attempt to contact me, and no response to any of my questions about it. Were we omitted because we weren't in the top 50? Were we omitted because of technical problems with the DVD submission files?

It's just disappointing to not get the courtesy of a response.

[Ought2bCommitted]

It wouldn't bother me except that there's been no attempt to contact me, and no response to any of my questions about it. Were we omitted because we weren't in the top 50? Were we omitted because of technical problems with the DVD submission files?

It's just disappointing to not get the courtesy of a response.
Not to rattle anyone's (Jarred's) feathers, but...

yes, I agree. I was very disappointed by the omission and felt the Zombiefest DVDs should have then only featured the top 25 or something like that rather than selectively deciding who made it on or not. Speaking for myself, and I think several others, I know I would have paid 5-10 dollars more for the entire festival on 5 or 6 dvds.

That said, what bothers me more than selectively being omitted from the DVD edition of the festival is not being told beforehand. It was rather... shocking and disappointing and a little hurtful to have to find out by looking at screen grabs of the DVD menu.

I know my movie was hardly a perfect 10, but it was my movie. If it wasn't going to be on the DVD, I felt we should have been told before hand. Which again, I just don't get why all of them weren't on there. The best, the worst... all of them, warts and all.

I hope this doesn't get me banned, but it has been on my mind for awhile now and I felt I needed to vent about it. It has made me leary of even bothering to enter the Sci-Fest because will my hard work be tossed in the garbage again?

Anyway, that's about it. Again, hope this doesn't piss anyone off, but I felt I needed to say it. And now I have. :lipsrseal

-R.

[J.R. Hudson]

It wouldn't bother me except that there's been no attempt to contact me, and no response to any of my questions about it. Were we omitted because we weren't in the top 50? Were we omitted because of technical problems with the DVD submission files?

It's just disappointing to not get the courtesy of a response.

You're not on the DVD? Shit, I loved your film. ONe of my highest rated. :(

[Norm Sanders]

Robert, if THAT was venting ... trust me, you're courteous enough in that post, you won't be getting banned.

I didn't make the DVD cut either.

I got to meet Jarred in person a couple weeks ago, while in Vancouver BC for the X3 shoot, and it helped to sink something in .... that he's just one person, and just like any of us. I know on this forum Mod's can hit an almost god-like status ... I'm sure similar to celebrities in other walks of life. I mean, they're on here ALL the time, they've got a TON of posts, and tend to know a LOT about a broad range of topics.

Bottom line, I believe the Zombie Fest got out of hand. No one expected it to get THAT much more attention than the previous small fests, and it quickly became a matter of just trying to keep up, let alone have it turn out as perfectly as one would hope. With still having to earn a living, Jarred was understaffed & overwhelmed with the magnitude of problems (DVD issues, submission issues, voting issues, etc.) it brought with it. Just like we learned a TON by being motivated & following through with the short (of what works, and what not to do next time), the same has to be true for Jarred/Barry as well with festival(s).

What doesn't kill you will make you stronger, right? So, I'm expecting incredible things this next go-around, both from all the member's shorts, as well as from Jarred & his team with regards to the voting process, submissions, DVD's, etc. I hope as many of the ones who entered before will be in this one as well, as I especially want to see the improvements everyone has made from learning from the past experience.

[Ought2bCommitted]

Robert, if THAT was venting ... trust me, you're courteous enough in that post, you won't be getting banned.

I didn't make the DVD cut either.

I got to meet Jarred in person a couple weeks ago, while in Vancouver BC for the X3 shoot, and it helped to sink something in .... that he's just one person, and just like any of us. I know on this forum Mod's can hit an almost god-like status ... I'm sure similar to celebrities in other walks of life. I mean, they're on here ALL the time, they've got a TON of posts, and tend to know a LOT about a broad range of topics.

Bottom line, I believe the Zombie Fest got out of hand. No one expected it to get THAT much more attention than the previous small fests, and it quickly became a matter of just trying to keep up, let alone have it turn out as perfectly as one would hope. With still having to earn a living, Jarred was understaffed & overwhelmed with the magnitude of problems (DVD issues, submission issues, voting issues, etc.) it brought with it. Just like we learned a TON by being motivated & following through with the short (of what works, and what not to do next time), the same has to be true for Jarred/Barry as well with festival(s).

What doesn't kill you will make you stronger, right? So, I'm expecting incredible things this next go-around, both from all the member's shorts, as well as from Jarred & his team with regards to the voting process, submissions, DVD's, etc. I hope as many of the ones who entered before will be in this one as well, as I especially want to see the improvements everyone has made from learning from the past experience.

Very true, Norm. No argument here on any of it. I think my biggest complaint would have just been to let people who didn't make the cut know beforehand and not let them find out by looking at the screen grabs of the DVD. It was mucho sucko.

I give Jarred a world of credit for running this awesome site AND being a professional working in the field. That takes a lot of juggling and obviously he loves what he does, on both fronts.

I was glad to be a part of the festival that got away, LOL, and just feel/felt all of us should have been acknowledged on the DVD or at least been told we weren't going to be on there. That's all.

Hopefully next time I am up in V.C. I will get to say hi to the man himself. My wife loves it up there and we try to go every couple of years.

-R

[Jarred Land]

Sorry you guys feel hurt.. I will refund your entry fees... oh wait a minute.


You guys need to realize I am doing this because I like you all. It ends up costing me a lot of money to pull these things off so I feel a little agitated when people start complaining. I intended to put all 80 on the DVD at the beginning.. but when half the people sent me DVD's with fields in the wrong order, wrong pulldowns, wrong formats, I could only do so much. Sorry I couldnt hold everyone's hand and come over to thier house and tell them I'm sorry they didnt make it on the DVD.

What was I supposed to do? Email everyone that didnt make it, with a page long explanation? you know I would of gotten responses like "why?" and "let me fix it".. I did that already, I gave people opportunity to upload via FTP and send things again way way way past the deadline. After 2 weeks, I had to stop. Also, the whole 4 disk thing instead of 6 disk thing.. Remember.. im paying for this all upfront.. and 6 disks was just to expensive, I would of had to sell them for $30 each and I didnt want to do that.

So sorry everyone that didnt make it, it wasn't because your film sucked, it was because we either didnt get your DVD, we got it but it didnt work, or it just didnt make the 4 disks. I still sent you a Tshirt, for free, so get off my back.. I love you all, but there is only so much I can take of people bitching to me when Im trying so hard to make these fests something special.

[Barry_Green]

A six-disc set is just kind of nutty... If you do a Sci-Fest DVD, maybe you should limit it to the top vote-getters that can fit on a single disc or something... did you replicate those or something? That'd be some massive expense up front! And if you're duplicating them, that's either a big ol' expense or a whole lotta time...

I think a one-disc "greatest hits" is a reasonable compromise.

[Jarred Land]

the SCI-fest DVD is going to be one dvd.. i made my mind up on that along time ago... so good thinking Barry we are on the same page.

I just can't imagine the complaints i will get, but so be it.

[Weston]

is there any sort of contribution chest on this site that would help out with expenses?

[Norm Sanders]

the SCI-fest DVD is going to be one dvd.. i made my mind up on that along time ago... so good thinking Barry we are on the same page.

I just can't imagine the complaints i will get, but so be it.

It'll just be another incentive to make it into the top votes, so that a person's film can be on the DVD as well. :thumbsup:

Those who don't make it will know why in advance by how they placed, but they will have learned a lot through the process & will do even better the next time 'round.

[Dahopafilms]

As somebody with a job outside of film-making, but with a more-than-keen interest in films and making them, the Zombiefest was an opportunity (excuse?) for me to quickly get a script together, gather some friends and have some fun and make a five minute short. My learning curve was vertical on my entry for that contest.

I didn't enter for votes. I didn't enter to get on a dvd. I loved the comments received on the site and learned from them (some more than others). Frankly, I can't imagine having even a nano-second of concerns that (a) our film didn't place in the top twenty, or (b) our film might not make it to the dvd, or (c) I wasn't getting enough personal interaction with those running this site. I wanted to buy the dvd as a cap on the whole experience and a means of hopefully tossing some money back into Jarred's pocket to compensate for his expenses (t-shirts, bandwidth, etc. etc. etc). I admit (and he knows it) that I disagree with his pricing on the box set because, again, he's basically only just covering his expenses. I think that's, quite frankly, nuts.

So for those whinging (and I mean that in a kind way) about not getting enough stroking about some aspect of their project, I understand, but welcome to the real world where everything simply doesn't come in a nice, neat, friendly, "Wal-Mart greeter" package. And, again, this is whinging about a guy who is bending over backwards and investing his personal time and money in this site and all its manifestations because HE ENJOYS IT. Too many people start whining and I know what I'd do ...

Anyway,

the SCI-fest DVD is going to be one dvd.. i made my mind up on that along time ago... so good thinking Barry we are on the same page.


Jarred, WHAT ARE YOU - FREAKING NUTS????? I'm gonna sit here and bust my balls for another contest and end up in 50th place and not even get on the DVD!!!!!! What are you thinking!!!!!! How dare you!!!!!!!!! If I enter you OWE IT TO ME to put my entry on the DVD!!!!

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOU'RE DEALING WITH!!!!!!!

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

Dahopa your attitude is commendable and indicitive of a well balanced individual who understands what really matters in life. I totally respect your view point. However, most people have been pretty careful to not rant or get pissed, but just to express their frustration.

Not to be a "Wal-Mart GReeter" but -- I think both sides of this coin are perfectly valid.

And I'm not just trying to be mister let's get along I really think that dual perspective is not only possible but legitimate.

If I didn't get on the DVD I would be bummed. It's a cool thing to show your friends all neatly packaged etc. Not to mention that up until that cut it's been a completely community, group, all enclusice process. So I would be bummed - I worked hard on my short and would want to know that that little message in a bottle I sent out there had as far reaching an impact as possible.

So people feel attached to their films - they are in many cases their babies.

But, the fact that these contests draw a lot of attention to the forum not withstanding, Jarred is also justified in feeling bitched at for running out of cheeze dip when he didn't have to buy cheese dip or one keg of domestic, AND one keg of import, etc. in the first place, all because he wanted to throw the coolest party on the block.

So it's completely right to feel bummed about getting something you poured your heart and soul into cut from the final showcase

and

Its comepletley right to feel pooped on when you've overextended yourself and your resources in the first place to do something cool for the gang.

[Norm Sanders]

So what's the hourly rate the members should be paying for these counseling sessions? :grin:

[Dahopafilms]

... And I'm not just trying to be mister let's get along I really think that dual perspective is not only possible but legitimate.

If I didn't get on the DVD I would be bummed...

Gotcha and point well taken.

I know that if I invited some friends over and ran out of cheese dip or got the "WTF - you only got Budweiser?" comment, I might think twice about inviting them back. (Of course, my friends would likely not say a word, disappear and come back with some Stella. Or at least that's what I'd like to believe ...)

I just see a guy busting his ass over something that is very worthwhile and obviously popular and it's costing him money, but he's getting flack because not everybody could get on the dvd - and they didn't like how they got the bad news.

To try and link our perspectives, I think we agree that it would have been "nice" if everyone had made it to the dvd, or if they hadn't to have had some sort of inkling in advance. On the other hand, from the "host's" point of view, don't go to the party, discover there's not enough cheese dip and then send him a letter the next day whining about it. Just thank him for the really great time and move on.

And know that at the next party, don't focus so much on the sparse cheese dip - just enjoy the free beer.

[Dahopafilms]

So what's the hourly rate the members should be paying for these counseling sessions? :grin:

lol!

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

So what's the hourly rate the members should be paying for these counseling sessions? :grin:
the fee is putting up with me when I'm being unreasonable :)

Dahopa -- I would TOTALLY agree with you except that hopefully your friends don't have a deep sense of personal connection to their budweisers, and haven't (rightly or wrongly) invested some sense of their achievement, validation as beer drinkers, and self worth in obtaining said budweiser :grin:

but that's me -- that's why Jarred and Barry had taken to calling me "Mr. Excitable" by the end of the contest.

I just try to temper my excitedness with lots of well desrved ass kissing :kiss:

[Dahopafilms]

I just try to temper my excitedness with lots of well desrved ass kissing :kiss:

Er ...

Did I mention previously that I really like the Johnny Cash booking pic?:beer:

[Jarred Land]

ha ha.. sure i agree people can be pissed.. of course thats cool to be pissed. just dont bitch to me that i did something wrong.

I spent an average of 2 hours on each film putting it onto the DVD... or trying to put it on the DVD. I spent over a $1000 on Tshirts for everyone.. I gave away my own prizes.. Add it all up. The DVD's dont make a profit.. enough to buy me and Barry a coffee. its not about profit for me. Ask Jdanstan about how many hours we spent and how many fedex and USPS trips it took to get his computer to play with my computer... and this is when he was running from a hurricane. He shoulda got extra points for effort... and time. But hes one entry.. I just couldnt spend the time handholding for everyone. I tried, but we ran out of time.

Alot of Film Festivals out there only contact accepted entries.. and they charge entry fees. hell Sundance only started notifying SOME people they didnt accept, and Sundance has 100 people working and a million dollar budget. So just dont complain when im giving you something for free. You can be pissed.. just dont try and take it out on me.

And Thanks Dahopa for your support, i wish everyone understood how it works like you.

Lets hope Sci-fest turns out alot better, and alot smoother. It was a learning experience for all of us.

[Dahopafilms]

It was a learning experience for all of us.

Just make sure my next entry makes it to the Sci-Fest dvd or I'll be rightly PISSED OFF!!!

[puredv]

Alot of Film Festivals out there only contact accepted entries.. and they charge entry fees. hell Sundance only started notifying SOME people they didnt accept, and Sundance has 100 people working and a million dollar budget. So just dont complain when im giving you something for free. You can be pissed.. just dont try and take it out on me.

I cannot believe people are getting upset over this. Jarred is right, i have submitted to probaly 50 film festivals over the last couple years and i never hear a response unless i get accepted.

And jarred posted the people that got on the dvd before it was released. what the hell is the difference if he posts it or sends you a rose pedal email saying you didnt get in? its the same damn thing, your told you didnt make it one way or another.

Thank you Jarred for doing this to all of us. I see for Sci-fest the biggest prizes are coming out of your own pocket as well, so if people complain on let me at em.

Some people just have no appreciation.

[Barry_S]

You have to give Jarred some credit because I wouldn't have done a 4-disc set for Zombiefest, but he *really* wanted to include everything on the DVD--films and all the BTS. Well, everything turned out to be something like seven discs which was just nuts. As it is, the 4 disc set nearly killed us with all the technical issues. We have a really creative talented group of users, but we still need to bring everyone up to speed on deliverables. Jarred went above and beyond fixing some of the films, but we had to cut things off at four discs. So some films that had technical issues and/or low scores had to be dropped.

The SciFest DVD will be a "Best of" as opposed to the kitchen sink approach. The winners will automatically get a spot on the DVD and beyond that--Jarred and I will choose the films/BTS that will end up on the DVD. *Maybe* I can convince Jarred to do a 2-DVD set if we get some really good material. So if you want to end up on the DVD, make a killer film that gets you into the winner's circle or come up with a really solid film and a tight BTS that really illustrates some good SFX or filmmaking techniques. And make sure you're delivering your film in the correct format--and on time.

For our part we'll try to be extremely clear and detailed when we release the specs for the deliverables.

[Daniel Skubal]

That sounds fair :)

[HorseFilms]

I think it's absurd that Jarred is shelling out that much cash. Like he hasn't done enough for all of us just by creating and maintaining this site.

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

I suggested a $5 or $10 entry fee -- we could all afford that -- but that's not how homey rolls.

DVX100A ... $3000.00
Contest, T Shirt, Poster File ... priceless.

[Norm Sanders]

I cannot believe people are getting upset over this. Jarred is right, i have submitted to probaly 50 film festivals over the last couple years and i never hear a response unless i get accepted.

And jarred posted the people that got on the dvd before it was released. what the hell is the difference if he posts it or sends you a rose pedal email saying you didnt get in? its the same damn thing, your told you didnt make it one way or another.

......

Some people just have no appreciation.

Honestly, I think we're spending too much time off the subject in the first place ... this thread should become more of a discussion of what people think of the DVD's, how they like seeing something on their big screen TV, etc.

And I don't think those who've voiced their disappoinment were necessarily bitching ... just voicing their disappointment. One can understand why something happened, but still be disappointed about it. At least I HOPE no one's truly bitching about it.

I think Jack's response about seeing both sides covered it all nicely. We're all human, so let's just move on & get onto another topic. Please?

Besides, I think we can all agree that MINE was the best film that was in the fest, and since it didn't make it, I of all people should be the most upset. :evil: :grin:

[HorseFilms]

Honestly, I think we're spending too much time off the subject in the first place ... this thread should become more of a discussion of what people think of the DVD's, how they like seeing something on their big screen TV, etc.


Agreed. So where the f*ck is my DVD set, Jarred?!


:laugh:hehe Just kidding. I meant, "Where's my battery?":laugh:

[Barry_S]

If you hang around this site, you know Jarred's not trying to milk it for every bit of profit like some other sites. When we were working on the fest a typical exchange went like this--

Jarred: Let's give everyone a free DVD set for entering.

Me: Uhhh, they're already getting free T-shirts and great prizes--and we didn't have any entry fee, so we don't have a budget to give away the DVDs. :)

[Jack Daniel Stanley]

...Ask Jdanstan about how many hours we spent and how many fedex and USPS trips it took to get his computer to play with my computer... and this is when he was running from a hurricane. He shoulda got extra points for effort... and time.
Well back at you :beer:

My biggest barrier was no high speed access where I evacuated so FTPing was out of the question.

It was just a real bitch for everyone to get this done right even sometimes when the files were - seemingly - correctly formatted, due to some small detail or 1 in a thousand chance that something could go wrong and did.

In the end I think I spent about $150 FedEx on various attempts. One of those $30 trips was due to a content error on my part but the rest was just mysterious voodoo.

Like Jarred would download my BTS file (after I got home and had hi speed again) and on the 1st attempt it had no sound, but then when he downloaded it a second time it did...
(cue twilight zone music)

Or somehow my short was encoded so that it's anamoprhic characteristics were recognized by DVDStudioPro but burned stretched off Jarred's windows DVD program. Not his fault for sure -- hopefully not mine (it was the same as my BTS and Commentary) but his DVD software and my file just decided to not get along for one of the 3 identically encoded files I sent him (cue twilight zone music again).

Now magnify that by 100 and we can get a since of what it was like to put this together.

And BTW, before a 2nd waive of dissension starts, Jarred didn't "hold my hand" because we are cousins are anything (we're not though the resemblance is staggering) - It was just because my film placed a little higher (rightly or wrongly) and was therefore "supposed" to be on the disc, and because of the "my whole life being disrupted thing
Lets hope Sci-fest turns out alot better, and alot smoother. It was a learning experience for all of us.

No doubt - I think most of this was due to putting so many systems in play on such a large scale for the first time ever -- now we know :thumbsup:

[Ought2bCommitted]

Dahopa your attitude is commendable and indicitive of a well balanced individual who understands what really matters in life. I totally respect your view point. However, most people have been pretty careful to not rant or get pissed, but just to express their frustration.

Not to be a "Wal-Mart GReeter" but -- I think both sides of this coin are perfectly valid.

And I'm not just trying to be mister let's get along I really think that dual perspective is not only possible but legitimate.

If I didn't get on the DVD I would be bummed. It's a cool thing to show your friends all neatly packaged etc. Not to mention that up until that cut it's been a completely community, group, all enclusice process. So I would be bummed - I worked hard on my short and would want to know that that little message in a bottle I sent out there had as far reaching an impact as possible.

So people feel attached to their films - they are in many cases their babies.

But, the fact that these contests draw a lot of attention to the forum not withstanding, Jarred is also justified in feeling bitched at for running out of cheeze dip when he didn't have to buy cheese dip or one keg of domestic, AND one keg of import, etc. in the first place, all because he wanted to throw the coolest party on the block.

So it's completely right to feel bummed about getting something you poured your heart and soul into cut from the final showcase

and

Its comepletley right to feel pooped on when you've overextended yourself and your resources in the first place to do something cool for the gang.

Exactly, Jack!

I give and have given Jarred a world of credit for all he did/does for the site and the Zombiefest while working professionally. I don't know how he manages to do it all and have it run as smoothly as it does. I appreciate every bit of energy he put into the Zombiefest and I think everyone would agree that overall it was an amazing experience and that's all because of Jarred.

I'm sure the Sci-Fest will only be better. I can hardly wait to sit by the computer all giddy downloading a crap load of your guys' movies to watch with a huge ass bucket of popcorn.

Now, back to my X Box 360 and getting my ass whipped by some 13 year old kid in Kansas in Call of Duty 2. Little bastard. :laugh: