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Daniel Skubal
10-17-2005, 11:56 AM
I began writing for the next contest today, and am not quite sure if this will fall entirely under sci-fi... so could we get a definition of sci-fi?

I know the undead contest turned into zombies for the last contest, and I don't want to be the guy who has the project that sticks out like a sore thumb because he didn't have the specifics before he began writing.

So for clarification for everyone, what are our limitations? Does it have to be space/alien related?

Ought2bCommitted
10-17-2005, 12:01 PM
I don't think we're going to get specifics before the 1st of November.

Sci-Fi is such a huge category...it doesn't have to be just about aliens or space. I think we're trying to find a really tight definition of the genre in general.

I'm sure the contest will be fairly loose, in terms of the definition so it will be open to creatitvity. I wrote one last night. If it doesn't fit, I'll write one of the other ideas I have...if they fit... if they don't....screw you all!!! :laugh:

-Robert

Jeremy Ordan
10-17-2005, 12:01 PM
The next contest has not been officially announced, and I for one, especially with all the talk about Sci Fi think that Jarred and Barry might throw us a curveball and request a musical.

Wait 13 days and the next contest will be announced or just start writing the project because you believe in it.

Ought2bCommitted
10-17-2005, 12:06 PM
"science fiction, literary genre in which a background of science or pseudoscience is an integral part of the story. Although science fiction is a form of fantastic literature, many of the events recounted are within the realm of future possibility, e.g., robots, space travel, interplanetary war, invasions from outer space."

There's another one I found...

-Robert

Daniel Skubal
10-17-2005, 12:23 PM
lol I know it's early, but I'd like to get started asap and I've got a decent story idea... I just want to get a general guideline of sci-fi (which I am sure will be a very loose definition).

Ought2bCommitted
10-17-2005, 12:25 PM
I'm with you. I came up with about 4 ideas and wrote the one I felt strongest about. Either way, I want to shoot it. We'll find out in 13 days for sure!

-Robert

lucidz
10-17-2005, 12:26 PM
I'm with the above. I wanna get MOOVING! I was pissed I couldn't get in for the sci fi stuff and am CLAMMORING to start working on something!

THROW US A FRIKKIN BONE~!!! :)

Jeremy Ordan
10-17-2005, 12:30 PM
OK... time for me to get all cliché.

1. Patience is a virtue
2. Curiosity killed the cat
3. There was a time when Patience ceased to be a virtue. It was long ago.
4. One moment of patience may ward off great disaster. One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life.
5. You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for instance.
6. Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.
7. There is a way that nature speaks, that land speaks. Most of the time we are simply not patient enough, quiet enough, to pay attention to the story.

Ought2bCommitted
10-17-2005, 12:33 PM
Patience is cool.

But so is getting a head start and preparing. :thumbsup:

I'll wait for the officially announcement patiently, but I'm ready for when they announce it to jump right in and start.

-Robert

Jeremy Ordan
10-17-2005, 12:48 PM
Take that energy then and bang the script out right now. One thing I've learned is you can never have too many scripts ready and waiting to go.

I've always thought the point of the DVXUser fests are to inspire people to make films. If everyone has an idea of what the festival is going to be take that energy and start working on the project. If it ends up not being the same as what the festival is going to be, well then at least you have the script ready and you can make the project.

It's about making movies.

Ought2bCommitted
10-17-2005, 12:50 PM
Amen Yankee.


-Robert

clumsy_cool
10-17-2005, 12:52 PM
Sci-fi Musical Please !!!!!!!!!!!

Jeremy Ordan
10-17-2005, 01:01 PM
I'm all about the adult entertainment movie.

MattinSTL
10-17-2005, 01:08 PM
I don't know where anybody got these rediculous thoughts in their head that some of us think it will go sci-fi.

MattC
10-17-2005, 01:08 PM
LOL! Dude, you don't even want to go there, not with me in the game....

Of course I can't actually win a prize, so it might be fun....

Matt

MattinSTL
10-17-2005, 01:12 PM
That is too funny... I know you've already got a top 5 ready... me a forum member... and you, a real, live moderator. This is more then real... it's super-real.

Jeremy Ordan
10-17-2005, 01:17 PM
MattC... Was your comment to me and my adult mention or to Stl's comment?

Too many Matt's round these here parts I reckon

MattC
10-17-2005, 01:18 PM
I'm not saying.....

:beer:

MattC
10-17-2005, 01:22 PM
MattSTL,

LMFAO, I can't believe you remember that!!! You know, I just started doing the titles for it and mixing it this past week, now that I have my studio assembled. Obviously it wont go into the contest, but I can't wait to show it none the less. I was debating whether or not I should, because I've learned a bunch since then and can really see what I did wrong, but I might anyway. Also I can't use it for anything because I'm cutting in music that I don't think I could secure rights for, but since it's just for my own amusement, I don't really care. When I'm done with it, I'll post it for peer review though.

I would like to get in on the next contest though. I've recently become friends with a unbelievable make-up artist (he's working on a feature in NYC right now). He was pissed we didn't do the Zombiefest so SciFi would be the next best thing.

MattinSTL
10-17-2005, 01:51 PM
I know the feeling MattC... that's why I'm "lobbying" for sci-fi... I feel I could have done a way better job with the horror aspect of our flick... and just a better job all the way around.

You're surprised I remember? Did you notice that I got a 671 and an fp24 shortly after viewing your vid? The audio you got with your XL2 was just another rung on the ladder that made me decide to improve the audio that I was previously happy with!

If you can't tell Yankee... it was us. MattC has a short in the can (almost) that I found very entertaining and technically excellent.

MattC
10-17-2005, 03:48 PM
Thanks Matt! I'm actually less than satisfied with the sound, but since I only had myself and had to position the mic on a stand I did the best I could. I'm working with the dialog now to see if I can make it a little better. Hopefully, tonight I will do a first mix and start automating it.

Jeremy Ordan
10-17-2005, 03:51 PM
If you can't tell Yankee... it was us. MattC has a short in the can (almost) that I found very entertaining and technically excellent.

Yeah, even being as slow as I am from this very long weekend, I was able to use my powers of deduction to figure that one out... :grin:

Now I'm curious about this movie.

MattC
10-17-2005, 04:06 PM
Actually, Yankee I was talking to you as well. I have some friends on the West Coast who work in that particular industry... I'm fairly confident I could pull that one off if I really wanted to. But, now this other short was just a quick comedic thing I did for fun and to learn a bit. It'll be up by the end of the week.

blckhawk542
10-17-2005, 08:32 PM
I think a Sci-Fi genre would be sweeett...

then I could start testing out my skills at CGI!!

woop woop!!

...already started writing a screenplay and everythingg....currently designing some aliens cuz im really bored...

Jeremy Ordan
10-17-2005, 09:52 PM
Actually, Yankee I was talking to you as well. I have some friends on the West Coast who work in that particular industry... I'm fairly confident I could pull that one off if I really wanted to. But, now this other short was just a quick comedic thing I did for fun and to learn a bit. It'll be up by the end of the week.

I have a couple of friends in that industry as well, plus I have done some very basic free lance work for people I know... Until you try it, reverse angles never made somuch sense. OK, new topic maybe

MattC
10-17-2005, 10:04 PM
yes, new topic, please....

Matt, there is one part of the dialog that I'm just not happy with the audio, but I'm going with it. I did however trim down "Figaro" (from the Barber of Seville) by over 75% and you can't tell AT ALL. If you didn't know the piece you'd swear it was written how I cut it. The foley work and the soundtrack came out sweet and most of the dialog came out really well (well, as good as you can get by recording to a camcorder, which as you now know is not very good). I'm compressing a version tonight. Tomorrow you and "the gang" will get a preview of it to let me know what you think before I post.

Cheers

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 12:25 AM
Here's a... wallpaper I guess? I made it in photoshop. Wanted to do a retro- theme. I think I am going to make a sig out of the layers. lol

http://rah.eviljoes.com/Dee-Jay/images/RetroDVXSpaceFestVersion3Dj200423.jpg

MattinSTL
10-18-2005, 12:34 AM
What's he savin' that other gun for?

BOTH BARRELS Son! BOTH BARRELS!

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 12:58 AM
LOL I got lazy and didn't feel like drawing his arm in a different position. :(

TC
10-18-2005, 02:20 AM
I'm joining in on the fun too!

John C Lyons
10-18-2005, 06:22 AM
I don't want to be the guy who has the project that sticks out like a sore thumb because he didn't have the specifics before he began writing.

If they get anywhere near the number of submissions for the ZombieFest I would think sticking out would be a smart idea... If you have a great idea I say stick to it, then if they come up with some specific guidlines just incorporate as needed.

MattinSTL
10-18-2005, 07:28 AM
Hey TC I can't decide if that robot is shooting a laser of destruction or one of appreciation?

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 09:01 AM
There is really a buzz about this sci fi thing...

It's nice to see people this amped about a project we don't even know about yet.

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 09:02 AM
You're a pretty negative guy, yankee.

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 09:09 AM
I'm far from negative. I believe that getting amped about a project that hasn't been announced is weird. Then again, I bet on the world series winner before the season even starts, so I have no problem with it.

I revert to my previous statement, I think that these contests are great because it motivates people to get out and make a film. That is what this is about, making the film.

I'm all for the sci fi idea, last night I was walking my dog, stepped in some dog dung and came up with my idea in case it's a sci fi project. If it's not then I have an idea that I like and I'm still going to do this project (just need to figure out where I put it with some other things I want to do).

I consider myself a realist.

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 09:11 AM
One thing I can say though, I love all these banners everyone is doing. If had had any photoshop skills I would be all over it.

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 09:17 AM
Well thanks for the clarification :-p

As far as starting early... I think people were kicking themselves for starting so late last time. The admins have said that if the cry is loud enough, they will make it sci-fi. So supporting the idea before it's been officially announced is what we SHOULD be doing. :)

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 09:34 AM
Well hey... I'm up for anything.

Maybe tonight I will play with photoshop and make a banner myself... Actually, that won't happen.

CallaghanFilms
10-18-2005, 10:36 AM
Just finished my banner. Whatcha think?

TC
10-18-2005, 12:41 PM
That's awesome.

Mike McNeese
10-18-2005, 01:28 PM
The admins have said that if the cry is loud enough, they will make it sci-fi. So supporting the idea before it's been officially announced is what we SHOULD be doing. :)

So I should make a Film Noir thread?

MattC
10-18-2005, 01:34 PM
Yes, please...

MattC
10-18-2005, 01:35 PM
Of course, I'm planning on a Film Noir Sci-Fi. I mean why not, they're not mutually exclusive...

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 01:52 PM
Actually, I'd much rather prefer noir, but both of them get me out making movies.

J.R. Hudson
10-18-2005, 02:00 PM
I love that sig dj200423

So is it SCI FI ? Really?

MattinSTL
10-18-2005, 02:31 PM
Hey TC I can't decide if that robot is shooting a laser of destruction or one of appreciation?

TC... maybe you missed this earlier... but c'mon... THIS is the funniest thing I've posted here in a while.

Is your robot saying "die humans" or "mmmmm"?

Jarred Land
10-18-2005, 03:44 PM
ok all you homos.. you pushed hard enough. i will postpone my "other" fabulous plans and the next contest will be the "DVXuser Sci-fest".

you heard it hear first kids.

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 03:48 PM
Looks like Jarred's backyard just officially became ground zero for the landing...

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 03:50 PM
I'd be willing to bet that his next fest will be the musical... Anyone who uses the words 'other' and 'fabulous' back to back wants to see some Rockette esque choreography...

Jarred Land
10-18-2005, 04:01 PM
DAMN. now i gotta chuck the new poster.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 04:16 PM
ok all you homos.. you pushed hard enough. i will postpone my "other" fabulous plans and the next contest will be the "DVXuser Sci-fest".

you heard it hear first kids.


....wat were ur plans anyway?

care to share?

...that rhymed...lol

Tim Miller
10-18-2005, 04:18 PM
DAMN. now i gotta chuck the new poster.

That is hilarious, I did laugh out loud, but I refuse to put the stupid, 'LOL', but I know I just typed it, regardless...HILARIOUS

Ought2bCommitted
10-18-2005, 04:28 PM
DAMN. now i gotta chuck the new poster.

Thank you soooo much Jarred for a much needed laugh after a craptactular day!!!

:grin:

And I am psyched about the Sci-Fest.

-Robert

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 04:57 PM
Looks like my tap shoes need to wait a few more months before they show ya'll what's really up.

Policar
10-18-2005, 05:04 PM
What's the time limit on this thing going to be? If I can do 15 minutes I'll definitely enter. Otherwise, I'll just cut out a chunk from a 15 minute project.

TC
10-18-2005, 05:04 PM
TC... maybe you missed this earlier... but c'mon... THIS is the funniest thing I've posted here in a while.

Is your robot saying "die humans" or "mmmmm"?
:grin: Well, he's saying 'Die, humans." but he's also greatful for the oportunity to test his new 'death ray.'

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 05:09 PM
Yeah, I'd personally love it if we could have a film that is over the five minute time constraint. I understand about the issues with having to sit through a ton of movies, but if the deadline is kept where it is and if the file size constraints are kept with where they were on the Zombiefest I really think that you could easily do a 10 minute movie and have it at under 35meg.

Jarred Land
10-18-2005, 05:46 PM
how can you have a movie twice as long but with the same file size?

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 06:03 PM
WinZip is the answer!

MattC
10-18-2005, 06:04 PM
....without it looking really bad due to the compression??

I would love to do a ten minute film, but think about it. The zombie fest had 80 enteries! That would be 800 minutes or over 13 hours of films to watch and judge. You may want to make a ten minute film, but do you want to watch and judge 13 hours worth of them???

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 06:07 PM
Just make a limit of entries....first come..first serve...

max total of like 20-25 films......maybe thats too much...

Jarred Land
10-18-2005, 06:11 PM
i think 5 minutes is more than enough time to get the point across.. but maybe we can comprimise, like 7 minutes or something. 10 minutes no way, not only is 12 hours of SCI-FI painful, but that would kill the server faster than a speeding bullet.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 06:17 PM
i think 5 minutes is more than enough time to get the point across.. but maybe we can comprimise, like 7 minutes or something. 10 minutes no way, not only is 12 hours of SCI-FI painful, but that would kill the server faster than a speeding bullet.

I'm tellin ya.....make a list...or thread or suttin wher people post to claim a spot in the contest.....make a certain number of entrants so you and barry dont kill yourselves over uploading movies and loglines and stuff.

You dont see every Indie Filmmaker entering Tribeca or Sundance whenever they make a movie...they have to get onto a list before other people so they are sure they could show their movie...and if the person on the list doesnt have a movie...then next runner up goes in place.

It might sound a little unfair...but...it organizes everything.



also...with the movies...make them all into one big compressed WinZip format...so instead of having 2i93498327432 movies....have one big file like...300 mbs or suttin...dl it and open up the movies from there. So your server doesnt lag like crazy.

MattC
10-18-2005, 06:19 PM
Yeah, but for it to work like Sundance or Tribecca, Jarred and Barry would have to first view all the enteries and decide which ones were allowed in. That is still a TREMENDOUS amount of work for them....

CallaghanFilms
10-18-2005, 06:20 PM
http://www.b9robotresource.com/images/other/rodserling.jpg
Wintry January night, the present. Order of events: an official contest announcement from one Jarred Land, then the frenzied three months of filming that you’ve just witnessed has alas met its end, but with nothing more enlightening to add beyond evidence of some last-minute editing across all points on the non-linear globe. You've heard of trying to find a needle in a haystack? Well, stay with us now and you'll be part of a thread whose mission is not to find that proverbial needle. No, their task is even harder. They've got to both screen and vote on not film noir nor western nor superhero nor dance-fest, but on a genre of a different color...and in just a moment you'll screen and vote with them, because you've just landed in The DVXUser Zone.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 06:20 PM
Yeah, but for it to work like Sundance or Tribecca, Jarred and Barry would have to first view all the enteries and decide which ones were allowed in. That is still a TREMENDOUS amount of work for them....

Yes that's tru...which would be rape for them.....then first come first show can work...the first like 30 contestants who post...Add me or suttin...go on a list...then after the 30th person...its closed...and the contest is between those 30 films.

Jarred Land
10-18-2005, 06:24 PM
yeah remember this DVXfest is our own little festival.. its a user thing, not a cash-cow like Sundance or Tribecca.. so things arn't gonna work like that. There will never be entry fees (unless me or barry start a really bad coke habit) and we wont be deciding who gets into the festival.

A cut off may however work.. thats something we will hafta talk about.

MattC
10-18-2005, 06:24 PM
Great and when the first thirty posters all flake out, or they're gung ho in the beginning and then lose interest, or their films suck....

Nah, doesn't sound good to me. If you want to limit entries the only right way to do it is via screening. That doesn't mean someone has to watch the whole 5 minutes mind you. I'm sure they'd load one up and if it didn't grab them in 30 seconds it'd be off the list...

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 06:25 PM
Well the point of the contests are to get people making films and get them active on the forum, if you're going to deny people entrance into the contest just because they weren't on the forum enough... you're probably going to turn them off to the forum in general and that's just defeating the purpose.

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 06:27 PM
I agree that it shouldn't be limited to a certain number of entries, but no deadline extension would limit the total # of entries. In addition to that, seven minutes would work well. If you look at the majority of the zombie fest entries they were 17meg (the wmv ones at least).

That's why I was saying that you could do a ten minute and have it at the same file size.

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 06:30 PM
I think registration would be a decent idea.

Have everyone register at the start of the contest (give only a limited time for registration)... that way you won't have surprise entries at the end... It'd be a good organizational tool and wouldn't really weed anyone out.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 06:34 PM
Well first off...i know Sundance and Tribeca make you pay...but that wasnt the message i wanted to get across...what i meant is they dont always accept all films.

A cut off would be more organized...but would dimish some aspiring filmmakers on here to enter the contest.
Like i said before..it sounds unfair...but in the same time..its more organized for viewers.

And i agree with Dj and TheYankee...yeah it would make people not want to visit this forum, because if they dont visit, they'll miss something important...and some cant always get access to the computer all the time.


This all seems unfair on one end....but then if one thing is unfair for some people..it benifits others....its a weird situation.

hm.......


maybe DJ's idea would work....give people like a week or two to register....and however many films get registered...thats the amount of films in the contest...and if people dont produce a film by the due date...they disqualified...

that works....then zipping the movies to compress them on the server.

Rich Lee
10-18-2005, 06:34 PM
sci-fi...f*#k yah!

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 06:41 PM
maybe DJ's idea would work....give people like a week or two to register....and however many films get registered...thats the amount of films in the contest...and if people dont produce a film by the due date...they disqualified...

that works....then zipping the movies to compress them on the server.

I say that there is a two week registration window. Two months to make the movie. Due by the end of December. If you RSVP that you are participating and don't then you lose your eligibility for the next contest.

Then there is a window, any member who joins the forum during the contest can enter. The goal is to encourage people to make films.

This will let us know who is committing.

If we're a community then we encourage one another. If you make a commitment to making a film then at least others can help hold you accountable. It's like AA for shooters.

Shaun Patrick
10-18-2005, 06:42 PM
I definitely think a registration process would work. Do people think that there would 80 something entries again? I think that would be unlikely.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 06:47 PM
I think its unlikely..because...during the contest..like inthe middle of it...new people were making films and people didnt register before making a film....so it was all crazy and un organized.


Question...could you make a whole short in just CGI if you could? Not for prizes...just to make one and show people it.

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 06:49 PM
If you can make a whole film in CGI then I think it could be entered but not qualify because it's a DVX contest. That's just me guessing

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 07:01 PM
If you can make a whole film in CGI then I think it could be entered but not qualify because it's a DVX contest. That's just me guessing

I figured.....cuz I was wondering about making a zombie flick back in like July with a consumer Sony to show...but it would only be for viewing..not competing.

If I do a Sci-fi..ill try to make it CGI..if i have enuff patience...but i jus wanted to clear a few things before i do anything.

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 07:02 PM
Jarred and Barry are going to have to establish guidelines for dvx/nondvx footage. for the zombie contest, there was a 25% no-dvx allowance. In a genre that requires more CGI, that footage percentage may have to be increased.

I'm brewing up a few ideas... one of them requires ENG footage... not a whole lot, but I wouldn't want to flirt with that 25% mark in the edit... just to go over that mark and get DQ'd

idk. they may just maintain that 25% mark... whatever the outcome, though... I'm sure it'll be logical.

XCheck
10-18-2005, 07:03 PM
Quite frankly, I like the contest just the way it was. I think you guys are throwing ideas around (which in itself is a good thing) that serve no particular purpose.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 07:06 PM
I think you guys are throwing ideas around (which in itself is a good thing) that serve no particular purpose.

We're just talking about some ideas that could make this contest a little bit more organized than the last one...for one...registration before making a film...time limit on registration...not registration throughout the contest...and certain amount of none DVX footage...etc.

pretty much jus shootin the breeze in which could make this contest better than the last.

Daniel Skubal
10-18-2005, 07:08 PM
Yeah! :):)

Just shootin' the breeze.

Ought2bCommitted
10-18-2005, 07:12 PM
I don't know how crazy I am about a cut off or registering. For example, you say you're going to enter, work on your film, but just can't get it right by the deadline...so you don't enter and someone else could have.

I think in keep with what Jarred said, I don't think there should be a cut off either. If the number of entries should happen to pass 79, isn't that the point really? To get us DVX users making something and sharing it with our fellow users in a festival? Anyone who complains about 100 entries at 7 minutes a piece better have watched ALL 79 zombie movies because there were quite a few who didn't!

I think maybe to make viewing easier it should be run like a real festival in that on Mon and Tues you can download these titles, Weds and Thurs, theses titles... etc. Might make the whole process less daunting, but then again if you can't get to your PC (or Mac) for those days you miss entries and that screws up my point...so forget my idea. Scrap it.

-Robert

Ought2bCommitted
10-18-2005, 07:12 PM
Yeah! :):)

Just shootin' the breeze.

Don't shoot the breeze.

What did it ever do to you, huh?

:laugh:

-Robert

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 07:20 PM
Hey, I like the idea of it having registration. I'm working on my script tonight, had this idea brewing for a couple of days and I think it is actually a wicked little concept. We'll see how it turns out when it's judging time.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 07:29 PM
I don't know how crazy I am about a cut off or registering. For example, you say you're going to enter, work on your film, but just can't get it right by the deadline...so you don't enter and someone else could have.

I think in keep with what Jarred said, I don't think there should be a cut off either. If the number of entries should happen to pass 79, isn't that the point really? To get us DVX users making something and sharing it with our fellow users in a festival? Anyone who complains about 100 entries at 7 minutes a piece better have watched ALL 79 zombie movies because there were quite a few who didn't!

I think maybe to make viewing easier it should be run like a real festival in that on Mon and Tues you can download these titles, Weds and Thurs, theses titles... etc. Might make the whole process less daunting, but then again if you can't get to your PC (or Mac) for those days you miss entries and that screws up my point...so forget my idea. Scrap it.

-Robert

That process seems complicated...the different days of the week...

Well..if you were gona register...you better make sure to meet the deadline....and not just waste space in the contest....the contest should be something for very dedicated people who really wanna be part of it....and no cutt offs...just have like a 2 week period of registration..then everyone who wants to be part...register...then make film..its easier....and they should schedule their time if they really wanna be part of the contest...make time to meet the deadline..

Ought2bCommitted
10-18-2005, 07:40 PM
That process seems complicated...the different days of the week...

Well..if you were gona register...you better make sure to meet the deadline....and not just waste space in the contest....the contest should be something for very dedicated people who really wanna be part of it....and no cutt offs...just have like a 2 week period of registration..then everyone who wants to be part...register...then make film..its easier....and they should schedule their time if they really wanna be part of the contest...make time to meet the deadline..

Yes, well I believe I said it was a bad idea and to scrap it? :thumbsup: It sounded good until I talked it out.

Not for nothing, but S**t happens even to people with the best intentions. Acts of god, deaths in the family, etc. that may prevent you finishing your film if you register to enter. It has nothing to do with not being dedicated enough, etc. And it is inevitable that a few people who do register don't submit. Look at how many people reserve things and don't show up. Its part of life, like it or not.

-Robert

Jeremy Ordan
10-18-2005, 07:55 PM
Do you know that sensation when you buy a lotto ticket you think of all the things you are going to do with the money you win? Mental Masterbation.

That's what this discussion, which I consider myself a participant in, is turning into.

Honestly, we can campaign for things that we want: a. genre of festival b. longer time entries c. content requirement for original DVX footage, but debating amongst ourselves about who can enter and what happens... it's just turning silly.

Sorry for the tone. Thought it had to be said. I trust Barry, Jarred, and the other moderators and facilitators of the festival. Hell, I'd even donate $5-$10 to enter to help just cover some of the server cost to make the files available for download.

Sorry for the tone.

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 07:56 PM
Not for nothing, but S**t happens even to people with the best intentions. Acts of god, deaths in the family, etc. that may prevent you finishing your film if you register to enter. It has nothing to do with not being dedicated enough, etc. And it is inevitable that a few people who do register don't submit. Look at how many people reserve things and don't show up. Its part of life, like it or not.

-Robert

Well if something tragic happens thats out of your hands taht you cant fix...then you should be able to tell Jarred and Barry that you can't do the contest...one less film wont like jeoperdize everything...its life..shit happens to everyone...and people who are like ..OHH MANN NOW I WISH I COULD REGISTER...should understand that you couldn't make a film for personal reasons..thats all...life sucks for some things...this would be one of them..plus...people who wanted to register and couldnt...could jus wait till next contest...its not a big deal. There need to be some firm rules that should stick around..they might not be fair to one person..but makes everyone equal. No exceptions for like last minute films or suttin.

Ought2bCommitted
10-18-2005, 07:58 PM
Do you know that sensation when you buy a lotto ticket you think of all the things you are going to do with the money you win? Mental Masterbation.

That's what this discussion, which I consider myself a participant in, is turning into.

Honestly, we can campaign for things that we want: a. genre of festival b. longer time entries c. content requirement for original DVX footage, but debating amongst ourselves about who can enter and what happens... it's just turning silly.

Sorry for the tone. Thought it had to be said. I trust Barry, Jarred, and the other moderators and facilitators of the festival. Hell, I'd even donate $5-$10 to enter to help just cover some of the server cost to make the files available for download.

Sorry for the tone.

I feel the same way. In the end whatever Jarred and Barry decide are the rules, like it or not. I'd like to see the next contest run a lot like the last one just not the voting. But hey, I'll still enter regardless.

There's no harm in talking about what we'd like to see happen and stuff, but I just don't want to turn around and see a mob mentality pushing for things I don't agree with.

Ho hum.

-Robert

Ought2bCommitted
10-18-2005, 08:00 PM
Well if something tragic happens thats out of your hands taht you cant fix...then you should be able to tell Jarred and Barry that you can't do the contest...one less film wont like jeoperdize everything...its life..shit happens to everyone...and people who are like ..OHH MANN NOW I WISH I COULD REGISTER...should understand that you couldn't make a film for personal reasons..thats all...life sucks for some things...this would be one of them..plus...people who wanted to register and couldnt...could jus wait till next contest...its not a big deal. There need to be some firm rules that should stick around..they might not be fair to one person..but makes everyone equal. No exceptions for like last minute films or suttin.

Dude, I'm not arguing this with you. I don't like the idea of registering, you do. Fine! You don't have to like my reasons or agree with them. If you want to campaign for registering, be my guest. I'll still say what I already said... I'm against the idea.

End of story.

Fade out.

-Robert

blckhawk542
10-18-2005, 08:01 PM
I get what your saying..its ur opinion..its cool..but the whole point of this convo..atleast wat i was sayin...making suggestions for the next contest to be a tad organized...and you have ur opinion on it..nuttin wrong wit it....but i think its good to talk about things liek this..so Jarred and Barry culd get ideas for rules or suttin..

Ought2bCommitted
10-18-2005, 08:02 PM
Our conversation will never end...

lol

Apparently not....

:thumbsup:

:laugh:

-Robert

MattinSTL
10-18-2005, 11:48 PM
You guys need a humorous interlude to end this diatribe...

So... for YOUR viewing pleasure... I give you... drumroll please... my official favorite 1 minute long sci-fi flick of all time... *symbal crash*... THIS... CLICK (http://www.devilducky.com/media/2330/)

This is old, but I'll bet a lot of people haven't seen it yet... and if you have you forgot how good it is.

CallaghanFilms
10-18-2005, 11:53 PM
:grin: OMG That's funny. My laughing woke the kids up on that one. :grin:

TC
10-18-2005, 11:57 PM
'Look what I can do!'

That's EXACTLY what blackhawk would do if he had an R2D2.

J.R. Hudson
10-18-2005, 11:58 PM
Okay; my script is done

Okay so mine is about these 2 nurse girls who run to thier car cause the aliens are landing and then the government agents show-up and accidently shoots one of them and then the lead nurse turns into a space vampire.

CallaghanFilms
10-19-2005, 12:00 AM
deja vu, john.

Ralph Oshiro
10-19-2005, 12:01 AM
Okay; my script is done

Okay so mine is about these 2 nurse girls who run to thier car cause the aliens are landing and then the government agents show-up and accidently shoots one of them and then the lead nurse turns into a space vampire.I LOVE IT!!! WOW! That's the best sci-fi short idea I've EVER seen!!!

J.R. Hudson
10-19-2005, 12:43 AM
Bwhahaha!! roflmao <<<<<<<<<<< (I speak geekese)

wesley
10-19-2005, 08:27 AM
ai i might make it this time, first off i have to make something else to submit to a school. but if i'm happy with that result i'll spend the time i have left on this competition.

i'll make a sci-fi banner just in case... :d

Daniel Skubal
10-19-2005, 12:21 PM
What type of sci fi film are you guys making?

I know we can't discuss premises, I'm just curious where people are heading...
aliens? robots? space travel? cloning? What's up your sleeves?

Erik Olson
10-19-2005, 01:30 PM
Oh shit, R2D2... that's some great editing there.

e

Ought2bCommitted
10-19-2005, 01:56 PM
What type of sci fi film are you guys making?

I know we can't discuss premises, I'm just curious where people are heading...
aliens? robots? space travel? cloning? What's up your sleeves?

I could tell you, but then I'd have to beam you aboard the mothership and do terrible things to you... :grin:

-Robert

MattinSTL
10-19-2005, 01:58 PM
We've all heard about the probing they do when you get abducted... I plan to explore the artistic side of that event... for 05:50:00

The first ten seconds just shows some redneck milking the cows before the ship comes over.

Alien Forman to crew: "I don't want to see anything but assholes and elbows people!"

HorseFilms
10-19-2005, 02:03 PM
Brilliant work, Matt! I'm looking forward to that little opus.:thumbsup:

Erik Olson
10-19-2005, 02:11 PM
What about a story about a company who makes robots and they're supposed to be helpful to mankind, but then something happens - I dunno, maybe someone at the company turns bad and the robots get programmed with bad ideas. Then a cop - or maybe he's a robot too, but he doesn't know it - has to get the bad guy and lots of the robots try to kill him.

I like origami.

e

CallaghanFilms
10-19-2005, 02:20 PM
Gather around, gents! Have I got one whopper of an idea for you...

Stay with me now. Picture Kurosawa meets Sir Thomas Malory set against the backdrop of Flash Gordon's world...wait wait there's more! Add a dash of Fritz Lang. It's basically an Arthurian legend, but with laser swords! I can see it now...a "Space Opera"...a "War of the Stars"...huh?...huh?

Edit: WTF do you mean it's already been done?

Norm Sanders
10-19-2005, 03:03 PM
You guys need a humorous interlude to end this diatribe...

So... for YOUR viewing pleasure... I give you... drumroll please... my official favorite 1 minute long sci-fi flick of all time... *symbal crash*... THIS... CLICK (http://www.devilducky.com/media/2330/)

This is old, but I'll bet a lot of people haven't seen it yet... and if you have you forgot how good it is.

Where have I been?! I've been on DVXuser every day, and only now just realized that the next fest has officially been announced ... got a LOT of catching up to do now.

Matt, that's about one of the funniest videos I've ever seen ... still laughing about it as I write this!

Jeremy Ordan
10-19-2005, 04:30 PM
Well I've decided that I officially hate most of the actors I know, so I'm going to use action figures...

Ought2bCommitted
10-19-2005, 04:36 PM
Well I've decided that I officially hate most of the actors I know, so I'm going to use action figures...

LMAO... nice, Yankee! :beer:

-Robert

Ought2bCommitted
10-19-2005, 04:37 PM
Where have I been?! I've been on DVXuser every day, and only now just realized that the next fest has officially been announced ... got a LOT of catching up to do now.


Yeah Norm, I was wondering where you were!

Nice to have you back on the same page! How are those Ring-effects coming?

--Robert

Norm Sanders
10-19-2005, 04:48 PM
I think I want to start from scratch, but haven't had the time the past couple of days. I may wait, as depending on what I do for a story for the fest, maybe I can kill two birds with one stone ... though I'm not planning on anything with a horror aspect to it, which that effect's best used for, IMO.

Larry Rutledge
10-19-2005, 04:53 PM
Or it could be used for a new "worm-hole" effect...instead of the usual CGI kaleidoscope tunnel. Perhaps showing the person moving in the "THE RING" effect could be a nice time-transition or wormhole effect.

Just my $0.01 9/10

Ought2bCommitted
10-19-2005, 04:53 PM
I think I want to start from scratch, but haven't had the time the past couple of days. I may wait, as depending on what I do for a story for the fest, maybe I can kill two birds with one stone ... though I'm not planning on anything with a horror aspect to it, which that effect's best used for, IMO.

Yea, most definitely! Did you come up with your idea for the Sci-Fest yet?

-Robert

Norm Sanders
10-19-2005, 07:29 PM
I thought I had a cool idea, but then once I opened my mouth to speak it sounds incredibly stupid. So the short answer would be no.

I'm having our zombie fest party next Friday night (28th) where we'll be watching our DVD version of the short & I'll be giving out DVD's to those involved. I'm hoping to have a brainstorming session that night, if we don't have an idea by then.

I'm also not going to limit myself to just 6 minutes for the story. If the story takes us into a 15-20 minute production, then all the better. Then we'll just take the best of the best to make a tight 6 minute version for the fest. While I agree that these festivals need to keep the films short for logistics, I really want to advance my skills & work on longer & longer productions as I go ... eventually working up to a feature.

Daniel Skubal
10-19-2005, 09:01 PM
lol norm, I know exactly what you mean as far as sounding dumb.

I wouldn't scrap your idea though... write it out on paper and try to remember why it triggered your interest to begin with.

Maybe you can strip that little aspect and apply it to something else... just a thought

Bigmagic
10-19-2005, 09:09 PM
Hudson I trust your at least gonna reshoot the nurses footage! LMAO!

MattinSTL
10-20-2005, 12:28 PM
Well, believe it or not we're already shooting!

And I know this is against the rules... but I just thought you guys might like to see a grab from our BTS reel.

I learned a lot from Curugon and I think I finally got it figured out.:thumbsup:

http://www.gettreel.com/Doom3 BTS.jpg

Curugon
10-20-2005, 01:02 PM
Hehheheh...love the boom mic up there.

Daniel Skubal
10-20-2005, 07:44 PM
LOL I didn't notice the boom

Niebs
10-20-2005, 08:24 PM
very nice.

MattinSTL
10-20-2005, 08:59 PM
Jeez... if you didn't notice the boom did you see the DVX in the corner with the proper image on the LCD?

C'mon man!

Hey this sci-fi thing is probably gonna' push me back into the mental hospital... I can't get enough of this stuff. I just broke my addiction to D3... and now I'm thinking about it again. I don't wanna' pull the thread OT, but if ANYBODY reading this hasn't seen it on a GOOD computer for yourself then you owe it to yourself to check it out. It's freakin' terrifying. I got a 6800gt/oc and a pretty good system... and it's scary as hell. I'm not kidding when I say I gotta' take breaks from playing it. (surround sound on the chair and the soundtrack is as freaky as the images... what you see in my banner is what you see in the game).

If anybody wants a banner and can't make one feel free to PM me... I'm having fun with 'em now.

Jeremy Ordan
10-20-2005, 09:53 PM
I didn't notice the boom or the DVX either. Now I think it is brilliant.

I give Matt about 10 days before he's done with mics and officially a 'photo manipulator'

P!body
10-21-2005, 01:22 PM
webster.com says...

science fiction
Function: noun
: fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component

This is such a broad topic, I think I may make a six piece anthology each dealing with slightly different aspects of the sci fi. Should be good.

pmark23
10-21-2005, 10:13 PM
There's zombies in the future, right?

MattinSTL
10-21-2005, 10:43 PM
There's zombies in the future, right?


Dude... have you not been following my shameless promotion of the video game Doom3? It's 80% zombies of the future! See, this was my plan all along. Since I wasn't done with zombies I figured I could just keep my same crew and finish our original movie, but now it starts off with a small title at the bottom that says 2230 a.d.

Put a zombie in bullet-proof armor and give him a gun. Huh, kind of makes you long for the good old days of neck-bites doesn't it?:grin:

I hope the few people who thought sci-fi would be limiting are starting to realize it's WAY more open then zombies were.

pmark23
10-22-2005, 12:29 PM
Hey, just make it "Part II" -- and for the next contest you can make "Part III" a zombie musical.

BTW: Half Life also had several zombie levels. Hmmm....