shooting with mulit-HVX

[alpi69]

when i shoot with several cams, will there be a realtime timecode possible on P2?

right now when we shoot with more cams (DVX or BetaSP etc) we always sync the clock and edit in that timecode. will the P2 also do that??

timecode my seem senseless in P2, but when you shoot events you need some sort of reference as to when was what.
imagine a cameraposition under a skijump on a cloudy day. every clip´s screenshot will look exactly white. so you need a ref as to when was what shot...

what will P2 record next to image? camsettings? timecodes? the files will probably have weird names, so how will i recognize clips in the NLE? do i need to rename them otherwise?

[pkendall]

i wouldn't worry about jam syncing to the beta cameras... it won't work anyways.. but you're supposed to be able to jam sync other hvx and all dvx's (maybe even more) through firewire. but it only works up. meaning the HVX or DVX100B can read the tc from the old dvx100 and not the other way around.

the best way to organize the clips is to just use consecutive timecode and in post just sort it according to timecode. the numbering system is pretty random and has no order to it..

to sync the betas use a timecoded slate or take the p2 camera and shoot the tc off the side of the beta camera. that's the easiest. hope i make sense.

-Patrick

[alpi69]

well, no. i didn´t understand that.

what we do is this: i have three cams at a sportsevent. one person writes down which run at what time was good. on the editor we then cue the tapes of each camera to those times and capture them. we then adjust them as needed on the timeline. the main reason is to be faster when capturing, because I don´t have to capture all, but the winners.

If I have 3 HVXs and one BetaSP on set I need to be able to tell the editor when the winner was filmed. will i have to search through all my P2 folders to look for that shot on each cam? i know it is quicker than cueing, but still it wastes time. what if 3 wear the same stuff and i can not identify them visually from each other easily? is there no chronological timecode at all anymore?

[Barry_Green]

There's timecode in every clip. You can search by timecode. I'm not really understanding the issue here -- you can set all three HVXs to have frame-accurate timecode so they'll all match exactly. You can't match with the BetaSP, but what I would do there is set them all in free-run, match all the HVXs together, and then on the betaSP camera I'd film one of the HVXs LCD panels with the timecode display, that way the editor should have a constant offset reference point. Knowing what the timecode is on each, and what the offset is between the HVXs and the BetaSP, they should be able to quickly locate any clip from any of the cameras based on the timecode.

[alpi69]

ok, thanks Barry. I guess it is one of those things that are logical when you hold the cams but is hard to understand when the P2 workflow is only dvxuser-squibble ;)